Re: Removing message/rfc822 attachments to separate files
Herb Martin wrote on Thu, 28 Jul 2005 00:21:54 -0500: I understand the latter, but No, the method sends the full headers/messages encapsulated as message/rfc822 top level parts. Ah, good, then my guess was wrong :-) Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com IE-Center: http://ie5.de http://msie.winware.org
Re: Removing message/rfc822 attachments to separate files
Herb Martin wrote on Tue, 26 Jul 2005 21:21:25 -0500: When forwarding a batch of missed spam (or ham) from Outlook back to SpamAssassin the best way seems to be for our users to select more than a single message, and use the menu: Action-Forward which puts them all in as attachments. I guess this adds only the message bodies? Just want to remmember you that Bayes uses header tokens as well. If you can you should train with headers included. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com IE-Center: http://ie5.de http://msie.winware.org
RE: Removing message/rfc822 attachments to separate files
-Original Message- From: Kai Schaetzl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Herb Martin wrote on Tue, 26 Jul 2005 21:21:25 -0500: When forwarding a batch of missed spam (or ham) from Outlook back to SpamAssassin the best way seems to be for our users to select more than a single message, and use the menu: Action-Forward which puts them all in as attachments. I guess this adds only the message bodies? Just want to remmember you that Bayes uses header tokens as well. If you can you should train with headers included. I understand the latter, but No, the method sends the full headers/messages encapsulated as message/rfc822 top level parts. The only change I see between the Mime Markers are these 4 lines (including the blank): --=_NextPart_000_067D_01C591D1.7F02A7C0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment From: etc. snip header and body --=_NextPart_000_067D_01C591D1.7F02A7C0 FYI: Mail::SpamAssassin::Message (and Node) do seems to have what I need, but so far on quick examination and a brief initial code attempt it escapes my understanding to use this immediately. After writing the following and trying Mail::SpamAssassin::Message (off and on all afternoon) I stumbled upon the tool intended for the job: MIME::Parser from MIME::Toolkit (which was already on my system) -- the pod doc examples had almost exactly what I need (added one line to first example): http://www.globedomain.com/cgi-bin/perldiver/perldiver.cgi?action=2010modu le=MIME%3A%3AParser This does it -- the whole thing -- if I don't mind submitting one file per run (with a command script loop for all of them of course): #!/usr/bin/perl -w use MIME::Parser; my $parser = new MIME::Parser; # Create parser $parser-output_dir(./tmp);# Give output dir $parser-extract_nested_messages(0); # Extract messages whole? $entity = $parser-parse(\*STDIN); # Parse an input filehandle print Entity: $entity\n\n if $entity; __END__ This method is so much cleaner than the others I have tried -- users can just email a whole batch of Spam (or Ham) messages to our Spam (or Ham) Multi account for automatic processing. No change to individual message headers -- easy to do once or twice a day for those who get a lot of spam. Thank you so much for your help -- sometimes it is encouraging just to have someone throwing back ideas and suggestions. -- Herb
Removing message/rfc822 attachments to separate files
When forwarding a batch of missed spam (or ham) from Outlook back to SpamAssassin the best way seems to be for our users to select more than a single message, and use the menu: Action-Forward which puts them all in as attachments. (Selecting a single item just does a normal forward.) While I will eventually be able to write a parser to go through these and find the 'outer' Mime part marker, skip over the Content headers of each message and then save the following lines up to the next marker to a separate file: --=_NextPart_000_0700_01C59212.7AE17630 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...it would be nice to use a pre-written program or module. Perl is best for me. My initial searches at CPAN and Google have not found this but my guess it that someone has such, or even that I am looking right at it in the search results but overlooking the module. Other methods (for my users) include opening each email separate, choosing menu: Action-Resend, filling in a to address (for each message) and answer a number of prompts (Ok) to send. -- Herb Martin
Re: Removing message/rfc822 attachments to separate files
On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 09:21:25PM -0500, Herb Martin wrote: While I will eventually be able to write a parser to go through these and find the 'outer' Mime part marker, skip over the Content headers of each message and then save the following lines up to the next marker to a separate file: [...] ...it would be nice to use a pre-written program or module. Perl is best for me. Mail::SpamAssassin::Message ? ;) You can also read through PerMsgStatus which has code to wrip out an encapsulated message. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: Bart: Dad, you killed the Zombie Flanders! Homer: He was a zombie? Treehouse of Horror III pgp8p5mk9owUn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Removing message/rfc822 attachments to separate files
If you could set up public ham and spam folders for your users and have them drag the messages into those folders, and then harvest the folders using IMAP things would work with tools likely to be mostly found already lying around. Loren
RE: Removing message/rfc822 attachments to separate files
Mail::SpamAssassin::Message ? ;) You can also read through PerMsgStatus which has code to wrip out an encapsulated message. Thanks. Right under my nose -- but better to feel silly than to have to re-invent the code. -- Herb Martin
[exim] RE: Removing message/rfc822 attachments to separate files
-Original Message- From: Loren Wilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:55 PM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: Removing message/rfc822 attachments to separate files If you could set up public ham and spam folders for your users and have them drag the messages into those folders, and then harvest the folders using IMAP things would work with tools likely to be mostly found already lying around. Thanks, but this is not an Exchange setup nor any other public folders. Even if there were public folders here, it would be up to me to get the files back to SpamAssassin -- easy but just another step for me. Much easier for me to just get them to attach them back to the server into a Ham and Spam account there. Of course 'easier' means I must find or write a simple file splitter, and I am sort of jammed up for the next couple of days, so it might be the weekend before the thing gets written unless there is a module that does all of the real work. BTW, it it doesn't exist (seems unlikely) this would benefit many others. Looks like it was right under my nose in Mail::SpamAssassin::Message. -- Herb Martin -- ## List details at http://www.exim.org/mailman/listinfo/exim-users ## Exim details at http://www.exim.org/ ## Please use the Wiki with this list - http://www.exim.org/eximwiki/
