Re: Spam messages with no payload

2012-02-20 Thread Michael Scheidell

On 2/19/12 5:45 PM, Jason Haar wrote:

I know what you mean - see if anyone can figure out what this one was
about! I think they're just screwing with us :-/

(I mean, do they seriously think people are going to reply excuse me,
did you mean to send this to me? and take it from there?)

http://pastebin.com/MCwFrP6C


this is a typical 'freight forwarder scam'

they want you to prepay freight to their 'authorized forwarder' who 
never accepts the shipment, it gets sent back to you, but you are on the 
hook for the original payments, and/ or, you totally lose your shipment 
anyway.





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Re: Spam messages with no payload

2012-02-19 Thread Axb

On 02/19/2012 06:58 AM, Benny Pedersen wrote:

Den 2012-02-19 06:14, neon_overload skrev:


http://pastebin.com/xxJut9wb
http://pastebin.com/BApWfSfd


invalid messageid and html attachment when there exists html body


+ freemail sender


Re: Spam messages with no payload

2012-02-19 Thread Jason Haar
I know what you mean - see if anyone can figure out what this one was
about! I think they're just screwing with us :-/

(I mean, do they seriously think people are going to reply excuse me,
did you mean to send this to me? and take it from there?)

http://pastebin.com/MCwFrP6C

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Jason Haar
Information Security Manager, Trimble Navigation Ltd.
Phone: +1 408 481 8171
PGP Fingerprint: 7A2E 0407 C9A6 CAF6 2B9F 8422 C063 5EBB FE1D 66D1



Re: Spam messages with no payload

2012-02-19 Thread Jeremy McSpadden
For starters, your using qmail. I know postfix will give you more protection up 
front with just rbl and certain restrictions that would help quite a bit. 

Are you running any rbl or dns checks with qmail?

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On Feb 19, 2012, at 4:46 PM, Jason Haar jason_h...@trimble.com wrote:

 I know what you mean - see if anyone can figure out what this one was
 about! I think they're just screwing with us :-/
 
 (I mean, do they seriously think people are going to reply excuse me,
 did you mean to send this to me? and take it from there?)
 
 http://pastebin.com/MCwFrP6C
 
 -- 
 Cheers
 
 Jason Haar
 Information Security Manager, Trimble Navigation Ltd.
 Phone: +1 408 481 8171
 PGP Fingerprint: 7A2E 0407 C9A6 CAF6 2B9F 8422 C063 5EBB FE1D 66D1
 
 



Re: Spam messages with no payload

2012-02-19 Thread Benny Pedersen

Den 2012-02-19 23:45, Jason Haar skrev:

http://pastebin.com/MCwFrP6C


ip2cc 8.8.8.8

whats is the date of that ?, your clamav is outdated :(



Spam messages with no payload

2012-02-18 Thread neon_overload

I'm convinced that spammers are using me as a guinea pig.

I'm getting hit pretty hard by just a few determined spammers at the moment
who seem to vary their spam signature every day or so (they sent out through
thousands of free accounts at free email providers, so can't use client
DNSBL).  But every now and again, I'll get a spam from them that follows
pretty much the same pattern as everything else, except that the vital
ingredient - the link to their spam site or any mention of what they are
promoting - is not there.  Just the formatting and the random words.  And
these mails get right through my spam filter.

It's as if they are just sending out a test run when they come up with a new
pattern, to see if it increases their bounce rate or something.

BAYES_99 often hits on them, but I don't want to reject email just because
it hits BAYES_99.  The thing is, it's difficult to classify these emails
even manually as spam or not spam, so it'd be hard to come up with rules to
filter them.  They are once-off, so they're not bulk per se - and they are
not promoting the spammer - they are just random words.  But they are, of
course, still spam to me because they are noise I didn't request.
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Re: Spam messages with no payload

2012-02-18 Thread Jeremy McSpadden
Can you pastebin some sample messages + headers ?

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On 2/18/12 6:55 PM, neon_overload neon...@neonjs.com wrote:


I'm convinced that spammers are using me as a guinea pig.

I'm getting hit pretty hard by just a few determined spammers at the
moment
who seem to vary their spam signature every day or so (they sent out
through
thousands of free accounts at free email providers, so can't use client
DNSBL).  But every now and again, I'll get a spam from them that follows
pretty much the same pattern as everything else, except that the vital
ingredient - the link to their spam site or any mention of what they are
promoting - is not there.  Just the formatting and the random words.  And
these mails get right through my spam filter.

It's as if they are just sending out a test run when they come up with a
new
pattern, to see if it increases their bounce rate or something.

BAYES_99 often hits on them, but I don't want to reject email just because
it hits BAYES_99.  The thing is, it's difficult to classify these emails
even manually as spam or not spam, so it'd be hard to come up with rules
to
filter them.  They are once-off, so they're not bulk per se - and they
are
not promoting the spammer - they are just random words.  But they are, of
course, still spam to me because they are noise I didn't request.
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Re: Spam messages with no payload

2012-02-18 Thread neon_overload

Here is one example from this morning 

http://pastebin.com/xxJut9wb

And after decoding that base64 attachment:

http://pastebin.com/BApWfSfd

Normally, there is a link or redirect to the spammer's site but this is one
of the ones that is missing that, it has all the same formatting and the
filler text but no payload so it is a pointless spam (unless there is some
other reason for it, like testing bounce rates).
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Re: Spam messages with no payload

2012-02-18 Thread Benny Pedersen

Den 2012-02-19 06:14, neon_overload skrev:


http://pastebin.com/xxJut9wb
http://pastebin.com/BApWfSfd


invalid messageid and html attachment when there exists html body


Re: Spam messages with no payload

2012-02-18 Thread neon_overload



Benny Pedersen wrote:
 
 
 invalid messageid and html attachment when there exists html body
 
 

Thanks for looking at that for me.

Forgive me since I am relatively new to Spamassasin, but why wouldn't it
have built-in rules for this, or are there rules that are just disabled by
default?

It seems it would be easy to do a header rule for the message-id and to do a
meta rule for an HTML body plus an HTML attachment.

Feel free to point me in the right direction.

Cheers,
Thomas Rutter
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