RE: Spam with Re[2]: or Re[4]:

2005-09-19 Thread Ronald I. Nutter
Loren:

Thanks for the suggestion.  I tried it but I am getting a parsing error
with no details when I do a spamassassin --lint.  I am running on 2.64.
Is this rule using something that is not in that version ?

Thanks,
Ron


Ron Nutter  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Network Infrastructure & Security Manager
Information Technology Services(502)863-7002
Georgetown College 
Georgetown, KY40324-1696

 

-Original Message-
From: Loren Wilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 8:19 AM
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: Spam with Re[2]: or Re[4]:


Subject: RE: Spam with Re[2]: or Re[4]:


Using the following as a rule set, spam with the above subject line is
still getting through -

# Check for bad RE[ tag
header BAD_RE_TAG Subject =~ /\b"Re"\[\b/i
score BAD_RE_TAG 6.0

What am I doing wrong ?

Probably severa things, starting with the quotation marks.
Try the following, but give it a low score to start - I almost guarantee
it will FP!

headerMY_BAD_RESubject =~ /^\s{0,10}Re\s{0,5}\[\d+(?:\/\d+)?\]/i

Loren

(BTW, that is untested, so may have problems.)



Re: Spam with Re[2]: or Re[4]:

2005-09-17 Thread Loren Wilton
Subject: RE: Spam with Re[2]: or Re[4]:


Using the following as a rule set, spam with the above subject line
is still getting through -

# Check for bad RE[ tag
header BAD_RE_TAG Subject =~ /\b"Re"\[\b/i
score BAD_RE_TAG 6.0

What am I doing wrong ?

Probably severa things, starting with the quotation marks.
Try the following, but give it a low score to start - I almost guarantee it
will FP!

headerMY_BAD_RESubject =~ /^\s{0,10}Re\s{0,5}\[\d+(?:\/\d+)?\]/i

Loren

(BTW, that is untested, so may have problems.)



Re: Spam with Re[2]: or Re[4]:

2005-09-16 Thread M.Lewis
Stucki gave a good regex to match this a couple of days ago. As well as 
an good explanation of what the regex was constructed to do. Perhaps you 
missed it:


http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=spamassassin-users&m=112681463528425&w=2

Mike

Robert Menschel wrote:

Hello Ronald,

Friday, September 16, 2005, 4:46:38 AM, you wrote:

RIN> Using the following as a rule set, spam with the above subject line
RIN> is still getting through -

RIN> # Check for bad RE[ tag
RIN> header BAD_RE_TAG Subject =~ /\b"Re"\[\b/i
RIN> score BAD_RE_TAG 6.0

RIN> What am I doing wrong ?

You're not matching the subject correctly?

I don't remember every seeing


"Re"


with quotes in any subject.


Re


is common, but not


"Re"



Perhaps if you gave us a full sample of what you're trying to match...

Bob Menschel







Re[2]: Spam with Re[2]: or Re[4]:

2005-09-16 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello Ronald,

Friday, September 16, 2005, 4:46:38 AM, you wrote:

RIN> Using the following as a rule set, spam with the above subject line
RIN> is still getting through -

RIN> # Check for bad RE[ tag
RIN> header BAD_RE_TAG Subject =~ /\b"Re"\[\b/i
RIN> score BAD_RE_TAG 6.0

RIN> What am I doing wrong ?

You're not matching the subject correctly?

I don't remember every seeing
>  "Re"
with quotes in any subject.
>  Re
is common, but not
> "Re"

Perhaps if you gave us a full sample of what you're trying to match...

Bob Menschel





Re: Spam with Re[2]: or Re[4]:

2005-09-16 Thread jdow

Run 3.04 or 3.10 on a test machine for a few willing accounts. Once you
see if all your desired features seem to be working then roll it into
production.

Since Loren writes SARE rules and needs to see a version of the body
that matches what the body rules test against a feature that was in
2.64 and removed from 3.04 has magically reappeared in my version of
3.04. I also removed the silly tests designed to avoid wraps at 80
characters in reports. Other than that and selecting the correct rule
sets I've had no problems at all.)

{^_^}
- Original Message - 
From: "Ronald I. Nutter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



I am at 2.6.4.  After seeing all the horror stories of upgrades and my 
lesser

knowledge of Linux as compare to most on this forum, I was reluctant to
go forward with the upgrade.

Ron


Ron Nutter  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Network Infrastructure & Security Manager
Information Technology Services(502)863-7002
Georgetown College
Georgetown, KY40324-1696



-Original Message-
From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thursday 15 September 2005 10:11 am, Ronald I. Nutter wrote:

I am trying to write a rule to block these based on subject line but
keep getting regex errors.  It seems to be related to trying to put in
the [ character/symbol.  Can someone provide an example of how they
did it?

Thanks,
Ron

Ron, these are caught with the standard rulesets, network tests and RBL 
tests

here with SA 3.0.4:

Re[9]:
Content analysis details: (22.7 points, 5.0 required)

pts rule name description
 -- --
1.7 SARE_ADULT2 BODY: Contains adult material
0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message
0.1 RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100 BODY: Razor2 gives confidence level above 50%
[cf: 100]
3.5 BAYES_99 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 99 to 100%
[score: 1.]
0.6 MY_XXX_BODY RAW: XXX terms in body.
0.0 MIME_QP_LONG_LINE RAW: Quoted-printable line longer than 76 chars
1.5 RAZOR2_CHECK Listed in Razor2 (http://razor.sf.net/)
3.5 PYZOR_CHECK Listed in Pyzor (http://pyzor.sf.net/)
2.2 DCC_CHECK Listed in DCC (http://rhyolite.com/anti-spam/dcc/)
1.0 URIBL_SBL Contains an URL listed in the SBL blocklist
[URIs: efficacies.net]
1.5 URIBL_WS_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the WS SURBL blocklist
[URIs: efficacies.net]
3.2 URIBL_OB_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the OB SURBL blocklist
[URIs: efficacies.net]
3.0 URIBL_SC2_SURBL Has URI in SC2 at http://www.surbl.org/lists.html
[URIs: efficacies.net]
0.1 DIGEST_MULTIPLE Message hits more than one network digest check
1.0 SAGREY Adds 1.0 to spam from first-time senders

--
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Registered Linux User 283774 http://counter.li.org
21:01:02 up 5 days, 9:13, 1 user, load average: 1.92, 1.20, 1.28 Mandriva 
Linux 10.1 Official, kernel 2.6.8.1-12mdk 





Re: Spam with Re[2]: or Re[4]:

2005-09-16 Thread Chris
On Friday 16 September 2005 06:42 am, Ronald I. Nutter wrote:
> I am at 2.6.4.  After seeing all the horror stories of upgrades and my
> lesser knowledge of Linux as compare to most on this forum, I was reluctant
> to go forward with the upgrade.
>
> Ron
>
>
>
I do all my SA installs/upgrades via CPAN and have yet to have any problems.

-- 
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Registered Linux User 283774 http://counter.li.org
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Mandriva Linux 10.1 Official, kernel 2.6.8.1-12mdk


RE: Spam with Re[2]: or Re[4]:

2005-09-16 Thread Bowie Bailey
From: Ronald I. Nutter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> I am at 2.6.4.  After seeing all the horror stories of upgrades and
> my lesser knowledge of Linux as compare to most on this forum, I was
> reluctant to go forward with the upgrade.

The thing with all the upgrade horror stories is that there are many
times more people who upgraded with no problems and just didn't post
about it.  Human nature says that people complain when things go
wrong, but take it for granted when things work properly.

I have kept my systems up to date since I originally installed SA
2.55.  I'm currently running 3.0.4 and I'll move up to 3.1 in a week or
so once everyone else has ironed out any problems.  :)

I use CPAN to do the upgrades and I have never had any problems with
them.  The last upgrade required me to change my Bayes learning
scripts to use the new option names, but that's it.  CPAN works for
me, but you should stick with your original install method (rpm, yum,
build from tarball, etc) to avoid problems.  Different install methods
place files in different locations, so if you mix them, it can cause
problems.

Go ahead and upgrade.  The benefits usually outweigh the risks.  Just
make sure to read the README, INSTALL, and UPGRADE documentation so
that you are aware of any changes in structure, options, requirements,
or features.  It's also a good idea to run through the list of
required Perl modules and make sure you have the latest version of all
of them.

As far as a lesser knowledge of Linux, that's not really an issue here.
If I remember correctly, most of the upgrade problems were related to
Bayes database issues.  So the worst case is that you delete the
database and start Bayes from scratch.  With all of the other
enhancements in SA 3.1, that's not a bad deal even if it were
guaranteed to happen.

Bowie


RE: Spam with Re[2]: or Re[4]:

2005-09-16 Thread Ronald I. Nutter
Using the following as a rule set, spam with the above subject line
is still getting through -

# Check for bad RE[ tag
header BAD_RE_TAG Subject =~ /\b"Re"\[\b/i
score BAD_RE_TAG 6.0

What am I doing wrong ?
I am using the default spam level of 5.0 with 2.6.4.

Ron


Ron Nutter  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Network Infrastructure & Security Manager
Information Technology Services(502)863-7002
Georgetown College 
Georgetown, KY40324-1696

 


RE: Spam with Re[2]: or Re[4]:

2005-09-16 Thread Ronald I. Nutter
I am at 2.6.4.  After seeing all the horror stories of upgrades and my lesser 
knowledge of Linux as compare to most on this forum, I was reluctant to
go forward with the upgrade.

Ron


Ron Nutter  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Network Infrastructure & Security Manager
Information Technology Services(502)863-7002
Georgetown College 
Georgetown, KY40324-1696

 

-Original Message-
From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 10:07 PM
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Cc: Ronald I. Nutter
Subject: Re: Spam with Re[2]: or Re[4]:


On Thursday 15 September 2005 10:11 am, Ronald I. Nutter wrote:
> I am trying to write a rule to block these based on subject line but 
> keep getting regex errors.  It seems to be related to trying to put in 
> the [ character/symbol.  Can someone provide an example of how they 
> did it?
>
> Thanks,
> Ron
>
Ron, these are caught with the standard rulesets, network tests and RBL tests 
here with SA 3.0.4:

Re[9]:
Content analysis details:   (22.7 points, 5.0 required)

 pts rule name              description
 -- --
 1.7 SARE_ADULT2            BODY: Contains adult material
 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE           BODY: HTML included in message
 0.1 RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100 BODY: Razor2 gives confidence level above 50%
                            [cf: 100]
 3.5 BAYES_99               BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 99 to 100%
                            [score: 1.]
 0.6 MY_XXX_BODY            RAW: XXX terms in body.
 0.0 MIME_QP_LONG_LINE      RAW: Quoted-printable line longer than 76 chars
 1.5 RAZOR2_CHECK           Listed in Razor2 (http://razor.sf.net/)
 3.5 PYZOR_CHECK            Listed in Pyzor (http://pyzor.sf.net/)
 2.2 DCC_CHECK              Listed in DCC (http://rhyolite.com/anti-spam/dcc/)
 1.0 URIBL_SBL              Contains an URL listed in the SBL blocklist
                            [URIs: efficacies.net]
 1.5 URIBL_WS_SURBL         Contains an URL listed in the WS SURBL blocklist
                            [URIs: efficacies.net]
 3.2 URIBL_OB_SURBL         Contains an URL listed in the OB SURBL blocklist
                            [URIs: efficacies.net]
 3.0 URIBL_SC2_SURBL        Has URI in SC2 at http://www.surbl.org/lists.html
                            [URIs: efficacies.net]
 0.1 DIGEST_MULTIPLE        Message hits more than one network digest check
 1.0 SAGREY                 Adds 1.0 to spam from first-time senders

-- 
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Registered Linux User 283774 http://counter.li.org
21:01:02 up 5 days, 9:13, 1 user, load average: 1.92, 1.20, 1.28 Mandriva Linux 
10.1 Official, kernel 2.6.8.1-12mdk


Re: Spam with Re[2]: or Re[4]:

2005-09-15 Thread Chris
On Thursday 15 September 2005 10:11 am, Ronald I. Nutter wrote:
> I am trying to write a rule to block these based on subject line but
> keep getting regex errors.  It seems to be related to trying to put in
> the [ character/symbol.  Can someone provide an example of how they did
> it?
>
> Thanks,
> Ron
>
Ron, these are caught with the standard rulesets, network tests and RBL tests 
here with SA 3.0.4:

Re[9]:
Content analysis details:   (22.7 points, 5.0 required)

 pts rule name              description
 -- --
 1.7 SARE_ADULT2            BODY: Contains adult material
 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE           BODY: HTML included in message
 0.1 RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100 BODY: Razor2 gives confidence level above 50%
                            [cf: 100]
 3.5 BAYES_99               BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 99 to 100%
                            [score: 1.]
 0.6 MY_XXX_BODY            RAW: XXX terms in body.
 0.0 MIME_QP_LONG_LINE      RAW: Quoted-printable line longer than 76 chars
 1.5 RAZOR2_CHECK           Listed in Razor2 (http://razor.sf.net/)
 3.5 PYZOR_CHECK            Listed in Pyzor (http://pyzor.sf.net/)
 2.2 DCC_CHECK              Listed in DCC (http://rhyolite.com/anti-spam/dcc/)
 1.0 URIBL_SBL              Contains an URL listed in the SBL blocklist
                            [URIs: efficacies.net]
 1.5 URIBL_WS_SURBL         Contains an URL listed in the WS SURBL blocklist
                            [URIs: efficacies.net]
 3.2 URIBL_OB_SURBL         Contains an URL listed in the OB SURBL blocklist
                            [URIs: efficacies.net]
 3.0 URIBL_SC2_SURBL        Has URI in SC2 at http://www.surbl.org/lists.html
                            [URIs: efficacies.net]
 0.1 DIGEST_MULTIPLE        Message hits more than one network digest check
 1.0 SAGREY                 Adds 1.0 to spam from first-time senders

-- 
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Registered Linux User 283774 http://counter.li.org
21:01:02 up 5 days, 9:13, 1 user, load average: 1.92, 1.20, 1.28
Mandriva Linux 10.1 Official, kernel 2.6.8.1-12mdk


Re: Spam with Re[2]: or Re[4]:

2005-09-15 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Just a heads up in case any of you aren't aware.  There's an annoying 
"auto-bcc" plugin for Microsoft Outlook that adds similar numbers after 
the 'Re'.


So to a message titled "Blah" you'll get a reply titled: "Re[1]: Blah". 
 With the number increasing with every subsequent reply to same subject 
thread.


As such, I wouldn't be scoring a rule that looks for something similar 
too high.



Daryl



Re: Spam with Re[2]: or Re[4]:

2005-09-15 Thread Chr. v. Stuckrad
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 03:42:42PM -0400, Ronald I. Nutter wrote:
> # Check for bad Re: tag
> header BAD_RECOLON_TAG Subject =~ /\b"Re:"\b/i
> 
> stopping email with something past the Re:.  Is my concern valid and how
> do I allow the email to get through that has something after Re: ?

I assume you want to catch Mails with 'Re:',
but 'only without any further contents'?
Then you'd need to use '$'(line end)
instead of the second '\b'(word end) giving:

header BAD_RECOLON_TAG Subject =~ /\b"Re:"$i

This will be DANGEROUS IF mail-programs
automatically add 'Re:' to empty Subjects!
Then you'll possibly get false positives.

OH, by the way, what are the double-quotes for?
I think they would be seached for! So the pattern
will not work as assumed?

In an exim4-filter (it uses PCRE Patterns just like perl)
I just wrote/tested a pattern against the 'Re...'-Spams
analogous/rewritten to spamassassin:

header BAD_RECOLON_TAG Subject =~ /^re:?\s*\[\d+\]:?\s*$/i

Which is:
 re  the characters
 :*  the colon (possibly)
 \s* whitespace (possibly)
 \[  the left bracket (the typical case)
 \d+ one ore more digits (from 2 to 111 I saw random numbers)
 \]  the closing bracket (all my spams had it)
 :?  another colon (I really saw those Re:[1] and Re[2]:)
 \s* possibly more whitespace up to
 $   the end of the Subject:

If anything (except more whitespace) follows the tag
this pattern fails.  So writing 'Re: [2] something'
goes without hitting the rule.

Stucki

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RE: Spam with Re[2]: or Re[4]:

2005-09-15 Thread Ronald I. Nutter
Here is what I have crafted so far -

# Check for bad RE[ tag
header BAD_RE_TAG Subject =~ /\b"Re"\[\b/i
score BAD_RE_TAG 6.0

# Check for bad Re: tag
header BAD_RECOLON_TAG Subject =~ /\b"Re:"\b/i
score BAD_RECOLON_TAG 6.0

While the first rule should stop the cialis spam from coming through
that the other rules aren't, I am concerned about the second rule
stopping email with something past the Re:.  Is my concern valid and how
do I allow the email to get through that has something after Re: ?

Thanks,
Ron


Ron Nutter  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Network Infrastructure & Security Manager
Information Technology Services(502)863-7002
Georgetown College 
Georgetown, KY40324-1696

 

-Original Message-
From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 11:17 AM
To: Ronald I. Nutter; users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: RE: Spam with Re[2]: or Re[4]:


At 11:11 AM 9/15/2005, Ronald I. Nutter wrote:

>I am trying to write a rule to block these based on subject line but 
>keep getting regex errors.  It seems to be related to trying to put in 
>the [ character/symbol.  Can someone provide an example of how they did

>it?

You'd need to escape any [ or ] with a \ so put \[ instead of just [




RE: Spam with Re[2]: or Re[4]:

2005-09-15 Thread Matt Kettler

At 11:11 AM 9/15/2005, Ronald I. Nutter wrote:


I am trying to write a rule to block these based on subject line but
keep getting regex errors.  It seems to be related to trying to put in
the [ character/symbol.  Can someone provide an example of how they did
it?


You'd need to escape any [ or ] with a \ so put \[ instead of just [




RE: Spam with Re[2]: or Re[4]:

2005-09-15 Thread Mike Beal
Preface the brackets with a backslash: \[ and \]

>>> "Ronald I. Nutter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9/15/2005
10:11 AM >>>
I am trying to write a rule to block these based on subject line but
keep getting regex errors.  It seems to be related to trying to put in
the [ character/symbol.  Can someone provide an example of how they
did
it?

Thanks,
Ron


Ron Nutter  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Network Infrastructure & Security Manager
Information Technology Services(502)863-7002
Georgetown College 
Georgetown, KY40324-1696

 


RE: Spam with Re[2]: or Re[4]:

2005-09-15 Thread Ronald I. Nutter
I am trying to write a rule to block these based on subject line but
keep getting regex errors.  It seems to be related to trying to put in
the [ character/symbol.  Can someone provide an example of how they did
it?

Thanks,
Ron


Ron Nutter  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Network Infrastructure & Security Manager
Information Technology Services(502)863-7002
Georgetown College 
Georgetown, KY40324-1696

 


Re: Spam with Re[2]: or Re[4]:

2005-09-14 Thread jdow

Um, yes. That is not unusual for either issue.

You've heard of "Bcc"?
{^_^}
- Original Message - 
From: "Jeffrey N. Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Go a lot of spam last night with subject lines Re[2] or [4] or [5]
Most are Cialis or sperm pill spam.  Also I received one of these emails 
that was addressed to another user???




Re: Spam with Re[2]: or Re[4]:

2005-09-13 Thread Jim Maul

Jeffrey N. Miller wrote:

Go a lot of spam last night with subject lines Re[2] or [4] or [5]
Most are Cialis or sperm pill spam.  Also I received one of these emails that 
was addressed to another user???


I got about 10 of them waiting for me this morning.  All were tagged. 
The lowest score out of the 10 was 22.8 shown below.  This is running on 
2.64.


-Jim


Content analysis details:   (22.8 points, 5.0 required)

 pts rule name  description
 -- 
--

 0.1 HTML_MESSAGE   BODY: HTML included in message
 3.0 RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100 BODY: Razor2 gives confidence between 51 
and 100

[cf: 100]
 5.4 BAYES_99   BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 99 to 100%
[score: 1.]
 0.1 HTML_50_60 BODY: Message is 50% to 60% HTML
 2.2 OB_URI_RBL Has URI in OB at 
http://www.surbl.org/lists.html

[reproofs.com is blacklisted in URI RBL at]
[multi.surbl.org]
 1.5 WS_URI_RBL Has URI in WS at 
http://www.surbl.org/lists.html

[reproofs.com is blacklisted in URI RBL at]
[multi.surbl.org]
 2.5 JP_URI_RBL Has URI in JP at 
http://www.surbl.org/lists.html

[reproofs.com is blacklisted in URI RBL at]
[multi.surbl.org]
 4.0 SPAMCOP_URI_RBLHas URI in SC at 
http://www.surbl.org/lists.html

[reproofs.com is blacklisted in URI RBL at]
[multi.surbl.org]
 3.0 AB_URI_RBL Has URI in AB at 
http://www.surbl.org/lists.html

[reproofs.com is blacklisted in URI RBL at]
[multi.surbl.org]
 1.0 RAZOR2_CHECK   Listed in Razor2 (http://razor.sf.net/)


Re: Spam with Re[2]: or Re[4]:

2005-09-13 Thread Duncan Hill
On Tuesday 13 September 2005 14:10, Jeffrey N. Miller typed:
> Go a lot of spam last night with subject lines Re[2] or [4] or [5]
> Most are Cialis or sperm pill spam.  Also I received one of these emails
> that was addressed to another user???

The To: you see displayed in your mail client is not the TO that mail servers 
use to deliver e-mail.  There is no requirement that these two entities 
match.

I don't know why, but my Bayes has been trapping all of those Re spams just 
fine :)


Spam with Re[2]: or Re[4]:

2005-09-13 Thread Jeffrey N. Miller



Go a lot of spam 
last night with subject lines Re[2] or [4] or [5]
Most are Cialis or 
sperm pill spam.  Also I received one of these emails that 
was addressed to another user???