RE: Spamd memory leak?

2006-05-24 Thread Sietse van Zanen
We already reached that conclusion. ;-)
 
Anyway, if it is a memory leak, the swap should start to fill up sooner or 
later.
Keep in mind thought, that it would be waste of memory, if your systems and 
application use about 4GB , to leave the other 4GB doing nothing. Linux will 
gradually fill it up with cache and buffers.
 
And looking at the numbers, the system's cache is already about 3GB big:  
2867736k cached
So I think this system is running smoothly...
 
-Sietse



From: jdow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 24-May-06 2:09
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: Spamd memory leak?



The data you showed, Alan, does NOT show the swap space being used.
 Mem:   8108656k total,  5907792k used,  2200864k free,   218704k
 buffers Swap:  2031608k total,0k used,  2031608k free,
   ^ ^^^
  2867736k cached

So you are reading the report wrong. There is NOTHING wrong indicated
in that data you provided.

{^_^}   Joanne
- Original Message -
From: Alan Fullmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Very true.  However I started with 1 gig of ram, then 2, then 8.

 Each time it gets up to using the swap space, regardless of how much I put
 in there. 

 Thanks for the thoughts, I will let this one ride out a little longer to see
 what happens.



 -Original Message-
 From: Sietse van Zanen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Indeed, as long as it says swap: 0k used I would say it is just good memory
 management. :-)

 -Sietse

 

 From: Michael Monnerie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Dienstag, 23. Mai 2006 00:50 Alan Fullmer wrote:
 Mem:   8108656k total,  5907792k used,  2200864k free,   218704k
 buffers Swap:  2031608k total,0k used,  2031608k free,
  2867736k cached

 That doesn't show spamd is using memory. It's the overall system, and of
 course it will use all RAM after some time. Look at top and sort by
 memory used (press shift+M while running top) to see the biggest memory
 using programs first. ps auxw|grep spamd could also help.

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Re: Spamd memory leak?

2006-05-24 Thread jdow

Actually as I read the sequence of messages it went in a circle with Alan
asking the same question all over again in the message to which I replied.
If I mis-read it please forgive.
===8--- from below

Very true.  However I started with 1 gig of ram, then 2, then 8.

Each time it gets up to using the swap space, regardless of how much I put
in there.

===8---

The data he showed did NOT show ANY swap space being used. That needed
underscoring since he still seemed not to understand this.

{o.o}
- Original Message - 
From: Sietse van Zanen [EMAIL PROTECTED]



We already reached that conclusion. ;-)

Anyway, if it is a memory leak, the swap should start to fill up sooner or 
later.
Keep in mind thought, that it would be waste of memory, if your systems and application 
use about 4GB , to leave the other 4GB doing nothing. Linux will gradually fill it up with 
cache and buffers.


And looking at the numbers, the system's cache is already about 3GB big:  
2867736k cached
So I think this system is running smoothly...

-Sietse



From: jdow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 24-May-06 2:09
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: Spamd memory leak?



The data you showed, Alan, does NOT show the swap space being used.

Mem:   8108656k total,  5907792k used,  2200864k free,   218704k
buffers Swap:  2031608k total,0k used,  2031608k free,

  ^ ^^^

 2867736k cached


So you are reading the report wrong. There is NOTHING wrong indicated
in that data you provided.

{^_^}   Joanne
- Original Message -
From: Alan Fullmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Very true.  However I started with 1 gig of ram, then 2, then 8.

Each time it gets up to using the swap space, regardless of how much I put
in there.

Thanks for the thoughts, I will let this one ride out a little longer to see
what happens.



-Original Message-
From: Sietse van Zanen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Indeed, as long as it says swap: 0k used I would say it is just good memory
management. :-)

-Sietse



From: Michael Monnerie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Dienstag, 23. Mai 2006 00:50 Alan Fullmer wrote:

Mem:   8108656k total,  5907792k used,  2200864k free,   218704k
buffers Swap:  2031608k total,0k used,  2031608k free,
 2867736k cached


That doesn't show spamd is using memory. It's the overall system, and of
course it will use all RAM after some time. Look at top and sort by
memory used (press shift+M while running top) to see the biggest memory
using programs first. ps auxw|grep spamd could also help.

mfg zmi
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Re: Spamd memory leak?

2006-05-23 Thread Michael Monnerie
On Dienstag, 23. Mai 2006 00:50 Alan Fullmer wrote:
 Mem:   8108656k total,  5907792k used,  2200864k free,   218704k
 buffers Swap:  2031608k total,        0k used,  2031608k free,
  2867736k cached

That doesn't show spamd is using memory. It's the overall system, and of 
course it will use all RAM after some time. Look at top and sort by 
memory used (press shift+M while running top) to see the biggest memory 
using programs first. ps auxw|grep spamd could also help.

mfg zmi
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RE: Spamd memory leak?

2006-05-23 Thread Sietse van Zanen
Indeed, as long as it says swap: 0k used I would say it is just good memory 
management. :-)
 
-Sietse



From: Michael Monnerie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue 23-May-06 9:34
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: Spamd memory leak?



On Dienstag, 23. Mai 2006 00:50 Alan Fullmer wrote:
 Mem:   8108656k total,  5907792k used,  2200864k free,   218704k
 buffers Swap:  2031608k total,0k used,  2031608k free,
  2867736k cached

That doesn't show spamd is using memory. It's the overall system, and of
course it will use all RAM after some time. Look at top and sort by
memory used (press shift+M while running top) to see the biggest memory
using programs first. ps auxw|grep spamd could also help.

mfg zmi
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RE: Spamd memory leak?

2006-05-23 Thread Alan Fullmer
Very true.  However I started with 1 gig of ram, then 2, then 8.

Each time it gets up to using the swap space, regardless of how much I put
in there.  

Thanks for the thoughts, I will let this one ride out a little longer to see
what happens.



-Original Message-
From: Sietse van Zanen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 2:09 AM
To: Michael Monnerie; users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: RE: Spamd memory leak?

Indeed, as long as it says swap: 0k used I would say it is just good memory
management. :-)
 
-Sietse



From: Michael Monnerie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue 23-May-06 9:34
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: Spamd memory leak?



On Dienstag, 23. Mai 2006 00:50 Alan Fullmer wrote:
 Mem:   8108656k total,  5907792k used,  2200864k free,   218704k
 buffers Swap:  2031608k total,0k used,  2031608k free,
  2867736k cached

That doesn't show spamd is using memory. It's the overall system, and of
course it will use all RAM after some time. Look at top and sort by
memory used (press shift+M while running top) to see the biggest memory
using programs first. ps auxw|grep spamd could also help.

mfg zmi
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Re: Spamd memory leak?

2006-05-23 Thread jdow

The data you showed, Alan, does NOT show the swap space being used.

Mem:   8108656k total,  5907792k used,  2200864k free,   218704k
buffers Swap:  2031608k total,0k used,  2031608k free,

  ^ ^^^

 2867736k cached


So you are reading the report wrong. There is NOTHING wrong indicated
in that data you provided.

{^_^}   Joanne
- Original Message - 
From: Alan Fullmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Very true.  However I started with 1 gig of ram, then 2, then 8.

Each time it gets up to using the swap space, regardless of how much I put
in there.  


Thanks for the thoughts, I will let this one ride out a little longer to see
what happens.



-Original Message-
From: Sietse van Zanen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


Indeed, as long as it says swap: 0k used I would say it is just good memory
management. :-)

-Sietse



From: Michael Monnerie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Dienstag, 23. Mai 2006 00:50 Alan Fullmer wrote:

Mem:   8108656k total,  5907792k used,  2200864k free,   218704k
buffers Swap:  2031608k total,0k used,  2031608k free,
 2867736k cached


That doesn't show spamd is using memory. It's the overall system, and of
course it will use all RAM after some time. Look at top and sort by
memory used (press shift+M while running top) to see the biggest memory
using programs first. ps auxw|grep spamd could also help.

mfg zmi
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Spamd memory leak?

2006-05-22 Thread Alan Fullmer

I don't know if I should call it a memory leak or not, or just a memory
release problem with spamd.

I currently have 8 gigs of ram in this machine, I am running 30 processes
currently as indicated in the spamassassin options:

SPAMDOPTIONS=-d -c -H -x -m30 -q -u spamfilter --round-robin

I have played with the round-robin option and have not seen any real
difference.

Mem:   8108656k total,  5907792k used,  2200864k free,   218704k buffers
Swap:  2031608k total,0k used,  2031608k free,  2867736k cached

As you can see 6 gigs are being used.  It increases over time. 

16:37:45 up 5 days,  4:00,  1 user,  load average: 3.89, 3.87, 5.25

5 days uptime and it's grown to that amount.  I end up rebooting the machine
to recover the memory.  It starts out low then again works its way up
higher.

I don't see any errors in any logs, with the exception of occasionally it
suggests I run more processes.

The machine is a Dual Core Opteron 64, dual processor with 8 gigs of RAM.
Currently running 64 bit version of Fedora 5.

Anyone have any suggestions with this?  OR could this be an issue with the
Kernel?

Thanks in advance.

Alan Fullmer
Zoobuh.com
www.zoobuh.com





Re: Spamd memory leak?

2006-05-22 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 04:50:09PM -0600, Alan Fullmer wrote:
 Mem:   8108656k total,  5907792k used,  2200864k free,   218704k buffers
 Swap:  2031608k total,0k used,  2031608k free,  2867736k cached
 
 As you can see 6 gigs are being used.  It increases over time. 

Sure.

 5 days uptime and it's grown to that amount.  I end up rebooting the machine
 to recover the memory.  It starts out low then again works its way up
 higher.

Absolutely, that's how memory management works in most OSes.  It's not a
problem and doesn't require a reboot.  Basically having free memory means
there's memory that's not being used, which isn't very efficient.  So the OS
will try to allocate most of the memory and then cache and stuff gets freed as
processes need it.

Now if you're seeing the memory increasing and then swap increases, etc, then
that's potentially an issue.

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