Re: USER_IN_WHITELIST Not Scoring

2009-07-10 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 15:30 -0700, an anonymous Nabble user wrote:
> Thanks Karsten.

So it actually was a typo preventing the whitelist option from working?

> myphonydomain.com is just that, phony :-).  I am using it in lieu of my real
> domain.

So I figured. Bad idea nonetheless, makes debugging harder.

> Karsten Bräckelmann wrote:
> > Err... Since these do match, and you claimed to have restarted SA since
> > the conf change, my conclusion is you have a typo somewhere. After all,
> > neither your local.cf nor these headers appear to be raw and un-munged.
> > 
> > $ host myphonydomain.com
> > Host myphonydomain.com not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)

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main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i>=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}



Re: USER_IN_WHITELIST Not Scoring

2009-07-10 Thread John Hardin

On Fri, 10 Jul 2009, boogybren wrote:


Thanks Karsten.

myphonydomain.com is just that, phony :-).  I am using it in lieu of my 
real domain.


The "example.com" domain is explicitly reserved for that purpose. If you 
use example.com in the future, people will know that you are sanitizing 
your headers.


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Re: USER_IN_WHITELIST Not Scoring

2009-07-10 Thread boogybren

Thanks Karsten.

myphonydomain.com is just that, phony :-).  I am using it in lieu of my real
domain.


Karsten Bräckelmann-2 wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 14:53 -0700, an anonymous Nabble user wrote:
>> Here are the headers:
>> 
>> Return-Path: 
>> X-Spam-Tests:
>> * -1.8 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP
>> * -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1%
>> *  [score: 0.]
>> *  2.2 TVD_SPACE_RATIO BODY: TVD_SPACE_RATIO
>> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on
>> myphonydomain.com
>> X-Spam-Level:
>> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00,
>> TVD_SPACE_RATIO autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5
> [...]
>> From: Charlie Root 
> 
>> >   whitelist_from r...@myphonydomain.com
> 
> Err... Since these do match, and you claimed to have restarted SA since
> the conf change, my conclusion is you have a typo somewhere. After all,
> neither your local.cf nor these headers appear to be raw and un-munged.
> 
> $ host myphonydomain.com
> Host myphonydomain.com not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
> 
> 
> -- 
> char
> *t="\10pse\0r\0dtu...@ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4";
> main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i c<<=1:
> (c=*++x); c&128 && (s+=h); if (!(h>>=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0;
> }}}
> 
> 
> 

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Re: USER_IN_WHITELIST Not Scoring

2009-07-10 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 17:59 -0400, Jeff Mincy wrote:   
>Don't use the un-constrained whitelist_from, unless as a last resort, if
>there's no other way and you cannot use the proper constrained ones,
>like whitelist_from_rcvd.
>
> A local root sender should be getting ALL_TRUSTED.  whitelist_from_rcvd
> won't work on local email - you need at least one external hop to get the
> 'rcvd' part.  You could write SpamAssassin rules to look for the messages,

Ah, you're right. That option requires handover from the Internet to the
*internal* network. Thanks, my bad.

> but you probably don't want to AUTOLEARN the messages since any tokens in
> the email are probably spam hosts.  As pointed out earlier, this type of
> email should bypass SpamAssassin in procmail (etc).

Agreed, see my notes on that. :)

>Anyway, no sample -- no way to point out your issue. Do paste at least
>the headers of such a mail.
>
> Yep.

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main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i>=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}



Re: USER_IN_WHITELIST Not Scoring

2009-07-10 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 14:53 -0700, an anonymous Nabble user wrote:
> Here are the headers:
> 
> Return-Path: 
> X-Spam-Tests:
> * -1.8 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP
> * -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1%
> *  [score: 0.]
> *  2.2 TVD_SPACE_RATIO BODY: TVD_SPACE_RATIO
> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mcewan.net
> X-Spam-Level:
> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00,
> TVD_SPACE_RATIO autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5
[...]
> From: Charlie Root 

> >   whitelist_from r...@myphonydomain.com

Err... Since these do match, and you claimed to have restarted SA since
the conf change, my conclusion is you have a typo somewhere. After all,
neither your local.cf nor these headers appear to be raw and un-munged.

$ host myphonydomain.com
Host myphonydomain.com not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)


-- 
char *t="\10pse\0r\0dtu...@ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4";
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i>=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}



Re: USER_IN_WHITELIST Not Scoring

2009-07-10 Thread Jeff Mincy
   From: Karsten Bräckelmann 
   Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 23:43:03 +0200
   
   On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 06:53 -0700, an anonymous Nabble user wrote:
   > My local root user sends me nightly emails with mail/spam statistics and
   > information.  Because of the spam information contained in the email, it
   > sometimes flagged as spam itself.
   > 
   > In my local.cf, I have put the root user's email address in the
   > whitelist_from line, however whenever I send an email as the root user to 
my
   > legitimate email account, it is not getting scored.
   
 whitelist_from r...@myphonydomain.com
   
   Don't use the un-constrained whitelist_from, unless as a last resort, if
   there's no other way and you cannot use the proper constrained ones,
   like whitelist_from_rcvd.
   
A local root sender should be getting ALL_TRUSTED.  whitelist_from_rcvd
won't work on local email - you need at least one external hop to get the
'rcvd' part.  You could write SpamAssassin rules to look for the messages,
but you probably don't want to AUTOLEARN the messages since any tokens in
the email are probably spam hosts.  As pointed out earlier, this type of
email should bypass SpamAssassin in procmail (etc).

   Anyway, no sample -- no way to point out your issue. Do paste at least
   the headers of such a mail.
   
Yep.

-jeff


Re: USER_IN_WHITELIST Not Scoring

2009-07-10 Thread boogybren

Here are the headers:

Return-Path: 
X-Spam-Tests:
* -1.8 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP
* -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1%
*  [score: 0.]
*  2.2 TVD_SPACE_RATIO BODY: TVD_SPACE_RATIO
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mcewan.net
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00,
TVD_SPACE_RATIO autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5
X-Spam-Relay-Country:
Received: from myphonydomain.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])
by myphonydomain.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.6) with ESMTP id
n6ALprFc064402
for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:51:54 -0600 (MDT)
Received: from localhost (r...@localhost)
by mcewan.net (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.6/Submit) with ESMTP id
n6ALprfK064397
for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:51:53 -0600 (MDT)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:51:53 -0600 (MDT)
From: Charlie Root 
To: Brenden McEwan 
Subject: test message
Message-ID: <20090710155144.m85...@myphonydomain.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed



Karsten Bräckelmann-2 wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 06:53 -0700, an anonymous Nabble user wrote:
>> My local root user sends me nightly emails with mail/spam statistics and
>> information.  Because of the spam information contained in the email, it
>> sometimes flagged as spam itself.
>> 
>> In my local.cf, I have put the root user's email address in the
>> whitelist_from line, however whenever I send an email as the root user to
>> my
>> legitimate email account, it is not getting scored.
> 
>   whitelist_from r...@myphonydomain.com
> 
> Don't use the un-constrained whitelist_from, unless as a last resort, if
> there's no other way and you cannot use the proper constrained ones,
> like whitelist_from_rcvd.
> 
> Anyway, no sample -- no way to point out your issue. Do paste at least
> the headers of such a mail.
> 
> 
> -- 
> char
> *t="\10pse\0r\0dtu...@ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4";
> main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i c<<=1:
> (c=*++x); c&128 && (s+=h); if (!(h>>=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0;
> }}}
> 
> 
> 

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Re: USER_IN_WHITELIST Not Scoring

2009-07-10 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 11:30 -0700, John Hardin wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Jul 2009, an anonymous Nabble user wrote:
> 
> > Am using procmail.
> 
> Take a look at http://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/antispam/ for a procmail SA 
> ruleset that skips mail originating from localhost. If you need help 
> generalizing that for your situation, contact me offlist.

With procmail, you can trivially exonerate specific sender addresses
from scanning. Just add a condition like this to your spamc filtering
procmail recipe:

  * ! ^From: f...@example.net

However, with IMAP and server-side procmail filtering I personally
strongly prefer to sort the cron crap into a dedicated folder, not
cluttering up my Inbox.

For that, just add a delivery recipe *before* scanning with SA. Like
this example.

  :0 :
  * ^From: @example.net \(Cron Daemon\)
  * ^X-Cron-Env:
  cron


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main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i>=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}



Re: USER_IN_WHITELIST Not Scoring

2009-07-10 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 06:53 -0700, an anonymous Nabble user wrote:
> My local root user sends me nightly emails with mail/spam statistics and
> information.  Because of the spam information contained in the email, it
> sometimes flagged as spam itself.
> 
> In my local.cf, I have put the root user's email address in the
> whitelist_from line, however whenever I send an email as the root user to my
> legitimate email account, it is not getting scored.

  whitelist_from r...@myphonydomain.com

Don't use the un-constrained whitelist_from, unless as a last resort, if
there's no other way and you cannot use the proper constrained ones,
like whitelist_from_rcvd.

Anyway, no sample -- no way to point out your issue. Do paste at least
the headers of such a mail.


-- 
char *t="\10pse\0r\0dtu...@ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4";
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i>=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}



Re: USER_IN_WHITELIST Not Scoring

2009-07-10 Thread John Hardin

On Fri, 10 Jul 2009, boogybren wrote:


Am using procmail.


Take a look at http://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/antispam/ for a procmail SA 
ruleset that skips mail originating from localhost. If you need help 
generalizing that for your situation, contact me offlist.


Also, try to stop top-posting. Thanks.


John Hardin wrote:


On Fri, 10 Jul 2009, boogybren wrote:


I have been wanting to do something like that but haven't done the
legwork to figure it out.

I will certainly look up how to do this in sendmail.  Do you have any
suggestions?


We also need to know how you're gluing SA into your mailer chain.
Procmail? A milter of some sort?


John Hardin wrote:


On Fri, 10 Jul 2009, boogybren wrote:

My local root user sends me nightly emails with mail/spam statistics 
and information.  Because of the spam information contained in the 
email, it sometimes flagged as spam itself.


I would suggest you look into MTA configs that will allow you to 
completely bypass SA on messages that originate from trusted hosts 
(e.g. localhost and your local network) and are destined for local 
recipients. Save the CPU cycles.


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Re: USER_IN_WHITELIST Not Scoring

2009-07-10 Thread boogybren

Am using procmail.


John Hardin wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 10 Jul 2009, boogybren wrote:
> 
>> I have been wanting to do something like that but haven't done the 
>> legwork to figure it out.
>>
>> I will certainly look up how to do this in sendmail.  Do you have any 
>> suggestions?
> 
> We also need to know how you're gluing SA into your mailer chain. 
> Procmail? A milter of some sort?
> 
>> John Hardin wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, 10 Jul 2009, boogybren wrote:
>>>
>>>> My local root user sends me nightly emails with mail/spam statistics
>>>> and
>>>> information.  Because of the spam information contained in the email,
>>>> it
>>>> sometimes flagged as spam itself.
>>>
>>> I would suggest you look into MTA configs that will allow you to
>>> completely bypass SA on messages that originate from trusted hosts (e.g.
>>> localhost and your local network) and are destined for local recipients.
>>> Save the CPU cycles.
> 
> -- 
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>   key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C  AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79
> ---
>Gun Control laws cannot reduce violent crime, because gun control
>laws focus obsessively on a tool a criminal might use to commit a
>crime rather than the criminal himself and his act of violence.
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Re: USER_IN_WHITELIST Not Scoring

2009-07-10 Thread John Hardin

On Fri, 10 Jul 2009, boogybren wrote:

I have been wanting to do something like that but haven't done the 
legwork to figure it out.


I will certainly look up how to do this in sendmail.  Do you have any 
suggestions?


We also need to know how you're gluing SA into your mailer chain. 
Procmail? A milter of some sort?



John Hardin wrote:


On Fri, 10 Jul 2009, boogybren wrote:


My local root user sends me nightly emails with mail/spam statistics and
information.  Because of the spam information contained in the email, it
sometimes flagged as spam itself.


I would suggest you look into MTA configs that will allow you to
completely bypass SA on messages that originate from trusted hosts (e.g.
localhost and your local network) and are destined for local recipients.
Save the CPU cycles.


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Re: USER_IN_WHITELIST Not Scoring

2009-07-10 Thread boogybren

I have been wanting to do something like that but haven't done the legwork to
figure it out.

I will certainly look up how to do this in sendmail.  Do you have any
suggestions?


John Hardin wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 10 Jul 2009, boogybren wrote:
> 
>> My local root user sends me nightly emails with mail/spam statistics and 
>> information.  Because of the spam information contained in the email, it 
>> sometimes flagged as spam itself.
> 
> I would suggest you look into MTA configs that will allow you to 
> completely bypass SA on messages that originate from trusted hosts (e.g. 
> localhost and your local network) and are destined for local recipients. 
> Save the CPU cycles.
> 
> -- 
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Re: USER_IN_WHITELIST Not Scoring

2009-07-10 Thread John Hardin

On Fri, 10 Jul 2009, boogybren wrote:

My local root user sends me nightly emails with mail/spam statistics and 
information.  Because of the spam information contained in the email, it 
sometimes flagged as spam itself.


I would suggest you look into MTA configs that will allow you to 
completely bypass SA on messages that originate from trusted hosts (e.g. 
localhost and your local network) and are destined for local recipients. 
Save the CPU cycles.


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Re: USER_IN_WHITELIST Not Scoring

2009-07-10 Thread boogybren

Thanks Dan, indeed I have bounced the daemon after modifying the local.cf.

Brenden


Daniel Schaefer wrote:
> 
> boogybren wrote:
>> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  Attached is my local.cf
>>   
> Simple solution, but you may not have tried it...restart spamassassin
> 
> -- 
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> Application Developer
> Performance Administration Corp.
> 
> 
> 

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Re: USER_IN_WHITELIST Not Scoring

2009-07-10 Thread Daniel Schaefer

boogybren wrote:

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  Attached is my local.cf
  

Simple solution, but you may not have tried it...restart spamassassin

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USER_IN_WHITELIST Not Scoring

2009-07-10 Thread boogybren

My local root user sends me nightly emails with mail/spam statistics and
information.  Because of the spam information contained in the email, it
sometimes flagged as spam itself.

In my local.cf, I have put the root user's email address in the
whitelist_from line, however whenever I send an email as the root user to my
legitimate email account, it is not getting scored.

I have explicitly entered:

score USER_IN_WHITELIST -100

in my local.cf.  I have also disabled the AWL plugin.  However, no matter
what I do, it still won't score -100.  The recipient's user_prefs is
completely empty.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  Attached is my local.cf

Best regards,
Brenden

http://www.nabble.com/file/p24428065/local.cf local.cf 
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