Re: Why no points for SPF_NONE?

2021-03-21 Thread RW
On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 11:34:09 -0400
Greg Troxel wrote:

> Steve Dondley  writes:
> 
> > I'm learning a bit about spamassassin rules and taking a peek at how
> > my inbound mail is scored. I noticed that PF_NONE scores zero points
> > by default. I'm wondering if there is a good reason for not giving
> > it a score and whether I should set that to something much higher
> > like 1.0.
> >
> > I'm curious to know what more experienced people have this set
> > to. Thanks.  
> 
> The meta point is that scores are normally set by examining a large
> corpus of ham and spam.   You are implicitly adopting a theory that
> SPF_NONE is correlated with spamminess, but you have not validated
> that theory.

The score of SPF_NONE is not set automatically and it was only
turned-on as an informational rule a couple of years ago.

The score distribution, in rule QA suggests it would stand a higher
score. However, the KAM rules contain:

header   __KAM_SPF_NONEeval:check_for_spf_none()
meta KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY (!__DKIM_EXISTS && __KAM_SPF_NONE)
scoreKAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY 1.0

This is better than scoring SPF_NONE directly as the check for a DKIM
signature will mitigate SPF_NONE hits that are caused by networking
problems. 


Re: Why no points for SPF_NONE?

2021-03-21 Thread Greg Troxel

Steve Dondley  writes:

> I'm learning a bit about spamassassin rules and taking a peek at how
> my inbound mail is scored. I noticed that PF_NONE scores zero points
> by default. I'm wondering if there is a good reason for not giving it
> a score and whether I should set that to something much higher like
> 1.0.
>
> I'm curious to know what more experienced people have this set
> to. Thanks.

The meta point is that scores are normally set by examining a large
corpus of ham and spam.   You are implicitly adopting a theory that
SPF_NONE is correlated with spamminess, but you have not validated that
theory.

Certainly if you have preferences you are welcome to set them in your
own system.  I score up icky things like HTML-only mail, mail where the
text and html don't match, etc..  Basically when someone is doing things
that violate standards or best practice, I'm less interested in
reading it.  However that is quite different from whether it is spam.

In my case, I tend not to request content that has these issues, and
thus *for me* mail that is nonconforming has a higher likelihood of
being spam than would be true for a mailbox operated by a normal person.

So, if when you get mail from your friends that is SPF_NONE, you hassle
them about it and ask them to add an SPF record, maybe SPF_NONE is a
clue of spam for your inbox.

I find only a small % of both my ham and spam has SPF_NONE.  I therefore
don't think it has much predictive value.


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Why no points for SPF_NONE?

2021-03-21 Thread Steve Dondley
I'm learning a bit about spamassassin rules and taking a peek at how my 
inbound mail is scored. I noticed that PF_NONE scores zero points by 
default. I'm wondering if there is a good reason for not giving it a 
score and whether I should set that to something much higher like 1.0.


I'm curious to know what more experienced people have this set to. 
Thanks.