RE: repost: moving/adding bayes info to global DB
On Thu, 2006-12-14 at 15:47 +0100, Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote: > If you believe that each user gets more or less the same kind of > e-mails (like, in example, when running a small-business MX), then you > may think to switch to a per-system bayes db an preload that single db > with the content of your own bayes. Ok - how do I tell sa-learn to update the system database rather than the DB under my home directory? I've read the sa-learn man page, and there doesn't seem to be any appropriate switch. One way (reading the man page for Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf) would be to simply point the global SA bayes_path to my own ~/.spamassassin directory... Or I could create a special user, always run sa-learn as that user, and point bayes_path to that user's .spamassassin directory (after pre-loading the DB as you suggest). Is there a Right Way? The bayes stuff still seems to be used even when allow_user_rules is false. On the other hand, bayes_path is one of the items that (according to man Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf) cannot be set within a user_prefs file. Which seems mean that the bayes DB location "~/.spamassassin" is effectively hardcoded and immutable :-( Regards, K. -- ~~~ Karl Auer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) +61-2-64957160 (h) http://www.biplane.com.au/~kauer/ +61-428-957160 (mob)
RE: repost: moving/adding bayes info to global DB
From: Karl Auer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For some time now, I have been busily accumulating bayes data by running > sa-learn on various collections of emails. As myself, so I now have a > nice big chunk o'data in ~/.spamassassin. > > Since I am a newbie to SA, I didn't realise what was happening for some > time. I actually wanted that data to be used globally, for all mails > that spamassassin checks. Since you are using per-user databases, there is no easy way to make that corpus available to every other SA user in your system. You may use sa-learn --backup and --restore facilities to copy all that knowledge to someone else's account, but this would wipe the previous contents of the destinating bayes db, which may be less than optimal. Due to how the bayes db is designed, you can't even "stack-up" the informations it contains in a multi-layered way, like, in example, by having a server-wide db and a per-user db which are inspected and updated in parallel: there is actually no way to merge data coming from multiple dbs as well as there is no way to update it. If you believe that each user gets more or less the same kind of e-mails (like, in example, when running a small-business MX), then you may think to switch to a per-system bayes db an preload that single db with the content of your own bayes. giampaolo > Is there some simple way to do this? I no longer have the email that I > used to train spamassassin, just ~/.spamassassin/bayes_seen and > ~/.spamassassin/bayes_toks. > > Regards, K. > > -- > ~~~ > Karl Auer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) +61-2-64957160 (h) > http://www.biplane.com.au/~kauer/ +61-428-957160 (mob) >
Re: repost: moving/adding bayes info to global DB
On 15 Dec 2006 at 1:21, Karl Auer wrote: > Hi there. > > Just reposting a question to which I have as yet received no answer, in > the hope that someone can assist... > > Regards, K. Hi, I think the best way to do this would be to export the data from your exisiting bayes and then import it into the one you want. sa-learn --dbpath --backup > sa_bayes_backup.txt sa-learn --dbpath --restore sa_bayes_backup.txt watch out for the path to each command, I've got the feeling that if your bayes are like this: /root/bayes_seen /root/bayes_tokens ... then the path will be /root/bayes , but I'm not completely sure. Maybe someone else can jump in at this point... Anyway, for more info on the sa-learn command use 'man sa-learn' Regards Ian -- IMPORTANT: This email is intended for the use of the individual addressee (s) named above and may contain information that is confidential, privileged or unsuitable for overly sensitive persons with low self- esteem, no sense of humour or irrational religious beliefs. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is not authorised (either explicitly or implicitly) and constitutes an Irritating social faux pas. Unless the word absquatulation has been used in its correct context somewhere other than in this warning, it does not have any legal or grammatical use and may be ignored. No animals were harmed in the transmission of this email, although the cat next door is living on borrowed time, let me tell you. Those of you with an overwhelming fear of the unknown will be gratified to learn that there is no hidden message revealed by reading this warning backwards, so just ignore that Alert Notice from Microsoft. However, by pouring a complete circle of salt around yourself and your computer you can ensure that no harm befalls you and your pets. If you have received this email in error, please place it in a warm oven for 40 minutes and add some nutmeg and egg whites. Whisk briefly and let it stand for 2 hours before icing.
repost: moving/adding bayes info to global DB
Hi there. Just reposting a question to which I have as yet received no answer, in the hope that someone can assist... Regards, K. ~~~ Forwarded Message ~~~ From: Karl Auer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: moving/adding bayes info to global DB Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 09:12:17 +1100 Hi there. For some time now, I have been busily accumulating bayes data by running sa-learn on various collections of emails. As myself, so I now have a nice big chunk o'data in ~/.spamassassin. Since I am a newbie to SA, I didn't realise what was happening for some time. I actually wanted that data to be used globally, for all mails that spamassassin checks. Is there some simple way to do this? I no longer have the email that I used to train spamassassin, just ~/.spamassassin/bayes_seen and ~/.spamassassin/bayes_toks. Regards, K. -- ~~~ Karl Auer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) +61-2-64957160 (h) http://www.biplane.com.au/~kauer/ +61-428-957160 (mob)
