Re: rsys4.com and Paypal?

2010-04-20 Thread Kris Deugau

LuKreme wrote:

The email body is suspicious (to me) because the URLS are all encoded 
(obfuscated is my word for that):

   td width=3D=2215=22img src=3D=22https://a248=2Ee=2Eakamai=2Enet/f/24=
8/47562/14d/ig=2Ersys4=2Enet/responsysimages/pplna/201004_US_MME/pp_mme_edi=
t/20100408_US_mme_spacer=2Egif=22 width=3D=2215=22 height=3D=221=22 style=
=3D=22display:block;=22 //td


Unnecessary QP encoding is nasty and stupid, yeah.  (I'd happily give it 
3 points or so if it weren't so common in otherwise perfectly legitimate 
email... including the glop often generated by Outlook.  :/ )


What about the link URLs (if any)?


So, am I being paranoid, or is someone spoofing Paypal and DKIM? Or is Paypal 
just trying really hard to make their email look like suspicious spam?


I'd say it's *probably* legit.

Is it addressed to you personally, or Dear user?

Is it related to a transaction, or does it seem to be basically 
advertising, contentwise?


A check back through a handful of my PayPal messages shows that they 
*do* use Responsys for some of their non-transaction email (Notice of 
Policy Updates, various advertising for get $x off when you by with 
PayPal at...), but most of it originates from .paypal.com or .paypal.ca.


-kgd


Re: rsys4.com and Paypal?

2010-04-20 Thread Bob O'Brien

Kris Deugau wrote:

I'd say it's *probably* legit.
  



Very probably. 
Responsys IPs, with their customer clearly indicated in the PTRs


12.130.139.51 om-paypal-apac.rsys4.com.
12.130.139.52 om-paypal-eu1.rsys4.com.
12.130.139.53 om-paypal-na.rsys4.com.
12.130.139.54 om-paypal-eu2.rsys4.com.

I can't assess content or permission, but the origination
of such messages is not much in doubt.




   Bob
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Re: rsys4.com and Paypal?

2010-04-20 Thread LuKreme
On 20-Apr-2010, at 11:33, Kris Deugau wrote:
 
 Is it addressed to you personally, or Dear user?

I was addressed to me.

 Is it related to a transaction, or does it seem to be basically advertising, 
 contentwise?

No, it was advertising copy about something or other (MOther's Day?)

-- 
''Here comes sunrise. Yeah, here's your sunrise. I used to hide from the sun,
tried to live my whole life underground, why'd you have to rise and ruin all my
fun? Just turn over; close the curtains on the day.''



Re: rsys4.com and Paypal?

2010-04-20 Thread SM

At 10:18 20-04-10, LuKreme wrote:
I got a mail from Paypal, but it is not FROM paypal, but it appears 
to have passed DKIM


If it passed DKIM and it is signed by info.paypal.com, it's from Paypal.

Regards,
-sm  



RE: rsys4.com and Paypal?

2010-04-20 Thread R-Elists
 
 
 At 10:18 20-04-10, LuKreme wrote:
 I got a mail from Paypal, but it is not FROM paypal, but it 
 appears to 
 have passed DKIM
 
 If it passed DKIM and it is signed by info.paypal.com, it's 
 from Paypal.
 
 Regards,
 -sm  
 
 

the biggest problem i ever saw was when paypal email was coming from InfoUSA
ip space.

that is something we consider a no no

not that the current place where it was coming from is any better...

so much advertising junk from some of these places

some known legit, some just crazy out there UBE

 - rh