sare top choices

2006-10-19 Thread R Lists06

Greetings

I pulled down a large subset of all the sare filters today on a test mail
server...

-rw-r--r--  1 root root  53868 Apr 20 02:00 70_sare_adult.cf
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   3839 Jun  1  2005 70_sare_bayes_poison_nxm.cf
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  24298 Oct  5  2005 70_sare_evilnum0.cf
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  45933 Dec 26  2005 70_sare_genlsubj0.cf
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 123406 May 21 13:00 70_sare_header0.cf
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  28066 Jun  3 22:00 70_sare_html0.cf
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  51886 Oct  1  2005 70_sare_obfu0.cf
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  12739 Dec 27  2005 70_sare_oem.cf
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  18190 Dec 12  2005 70_sare_random.cf
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  97820 May 27 20:00 70_sare_specific.cf
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  20301 Jul 25 09:00 70_sare_spoof.cf
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  59515 Oct 18 13:00 70_sare_stocks.cf
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  25124 Nov 12  2005 70_sare_unsub.cf
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  17879 Oct  4  2005 70_sare_uri0.cf
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  13211 Jun  1  2005 72_sare_bml_post25x.cf
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  15481 May 15 20:00 72_sare_redirect_post3.0.0.cf
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  10147 Jun  1  2005 99_sare_fraud_post25x.cf

I didn't snag all of them.

Im still contemplating the one that says it needs network tests on and spf
on and something else.

For those of you that use these, can you rate them on how effective in
general?

Um I do not think I want to run them all and so i am looking for help to
trim it to the top 3 to 5 "or so" of them to use...

It appears that several of you run all of them...

Any helpful comments will be appreciated.

Thanks and kind regards,

 - rh

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Robert - Abba Communications
   Computer & Internet Services
 (509) 624-7159 - www.abbacomm.net





Re: sare top choices

2006-10-19 Thread Clifton Royston
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 10:27:57AM -0700, R Lists06 wrote:
> Greetings
> 
> I pulled down a large subset of all the sare filters today on a test mail
> server...
> 
> -rw-r--r--  1 root root  53868 Apr 20 02:00 70_sare_adult.cf
> -rw-r--r--  1 root root   3839 Jun  1  2005 70_sare_bayes_poison_nxm.cf
> -rw-r--r--  1 root root  24298 Oct  5  2005 70_sare_evilnum0.cf
> -rw-r--r--  1 root root  45933 Dec 26  2005 70_sare_genlsubj0.cf
> -rw-r--r--  1 root root 123406 May 21 13:00 70_sare_header0.cf
> -rw-r--r--  1 root root  28066 Jun  3 22:00 70_sare_html0.cf
> -rw-r--r--  1 root root  51886 Oct  1  2005 70_sare_obfu0.cf
> -rw-r--r--  1 root root  12739 Dec 27  2005 70_sare_oem.cf
> -rw-r--r--  1 root root  18190 Dec 12  2005 70_sare_random.cf
> -rw-r--r--  1 root root  97820 May 27 20:00 70_sare_specific.cf
> -rw-r--r--  1 root root  20301 Jul 25 09:00 70_sare_spoof.cf
> -rw-r--r--  1 root root  59515 Oct 18 13:00 70_sare_stocks.cf
> -rw-r--r--  1 root root  25124 Nov 12  2005 70_sare_unsub.cf
> -rw-r--r--  1 root root  17879 Oct  4  2005 70_sare_uri0.cf
> -rw-r--r--  1 root root  13211 Jun  1  2005 72_sare_bml_post25x.cf
> -rw-r--r--  1 root root  15481 May 15 20:00 72_sare_redirect_post3.0.0.cf
> -rw-r--r--  1 root root  10147 Jun  1  2005 99_sare_fraud_post25x.cf
> 
> I didn't snag all of them.
> 
> Im still contemplating the one that says it needs network tests on and spf
> on and something else.
> 
> For those of you that use these, can you rate them on how effective in
> general?

  The "adult" one is good, though I had some FPs on a corpus I ran
through and derated some specific scores a bit.  (I'm also using an
alternate scoring system.) I've been running that one for at least a
couple years.

  Just adding the "stocks" one now, as it's the main spam category
that's getting through at the moment.

  I'd view both those, at least, as essential.
  -- Clifton

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RE: sare top choices

2006-10-19 Thread Bowie Bailey
R Lists06 wrote:
> Greetings
> 
> I pulled down a large subset of all the sare filters today on a test
> mail server...
> 
> 70_sare_adult.cf
> 70_sare_bayes_poison_nxm.cf 
> 70_sare_evilnum0.cf
> 70_sare_genlsubj0.cf
> 70_sare_header0.cf
> 70_sare_html0.cf
> 70_sare_obfu0.cf
> 70_sare_oem.cf
> 70_sare_random.cf
> 70_sare_specific.cf
> 70_sare_spoof.cf
> 70_sare_stocks.cf
> 70_sare_unsub.cf
> 70_sare_uri0.cf
> 72_sare_bml_post25x.cf
> 72_sare_redirect_post3.0.0.cf 
> 99_sare_fraud_post25x.cf
> 
> I didn't snag all of them.
> 
> Im still contemplating the one that says it needs network tests on
> and spf on and something else.
> 
> For those of you that use these, can you rate them on how effective in
> general?
> 
> Um I do not think I want to run them all and so i am looking for
> help to trim it to the top 3 to 5 "or so" of them to use...
> 
> It appears that several of you run all of them...
> 
> Any helpful comments will be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks and kind regards,

The most effective SARE rulesets for me are:

70_sare_stocks.cf
70_sare_adult.cf
70_sare_specific.cf

In general, the best rules on my system are:

Bayes
Razor
URIBL
DCC
SURBL
SARE_STOCKS
SARE_ADULT
SARE_SPECIFIC

FUZZYOCR is also quite useful.  It doesn't get as many hits as some of
the others, but it hits on the image spams that the other rulesets
frequently miss.

-- 
Bowie