Re: whitelist_from ip_range

2007-04-19 Thread Benny Pedersen

On Thu, April 19, 2007 21:20, Philip Prindeville wrote:

> Given the number of ISP's that don't have rDNS configured,

i reject them, atleast spf can help them

> whitelist_from_rcvd should probably be extended to support
> IP/CIDR addresses as well...

why not spf ?

> Let's not overload the meanings of trusted_networks and
> internal_networks. These latter two are already confusing
> enough for most newbies without having them take on
> additional unintended meanings.

there can be better ways of deailing with it yes, so far i have not seen side
effects of managed trusted_networks and or internal_networks that works

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Re: whitelist_from ip_range

2007-04-19 Thread Philip Prindeville
Benny Pedersen wrote:
> On Tue, April 17, 2007 01:57, Duane Hill wrote:
>
>   
>> http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/TrustPath
>> 
>
> to me a bit hardcore to read, but it have all ip that is known forwards mails
> to me as trusted_networks even if its still not my servers, and have maked the
> complete rfc1918 in trusted_networks and internal_networks added to this i
> have my own wan ip's in both
>
> should be it :-)
>
> trusted_networks 10.0.0.0/8
> trusted_networks 172.16.0.0/12
> trusted_networks 192.168.0.0/16
> trusted_networks 127.0.0.0/8
>
> internal_networks 10.0.0.0/8
> internal_networks 172.16.0.0/12
> internal_networks 192.168.0.0/16
> internal_networks 127.0.0.0/8
>
> and last my wan ips as trusted_networks and internal_networks
>
> after this all known forward ips as trusted_networks
>   

Given the number of ISP's that don't have rDNS configured,
whitelist_from_rcvd should probably be extended to support
IP/CIDR addresses as well...

Let's not overload the meanings of trusted_networks and
internal_networks.  These latter two are already confusing
enough for most newbies without having them take on
additional unintended meanings.

-Philip



Re: whitelist_from ip_range

2007-04-17 Thread Benny Pedersen

On Tue, April 17, 2007 01:26, Kelson wrote:

> That won't do what you think. trusted_networks is for IPs that you
> trust to provide honest header information, not IPs that you trust not
> to send spam.

correct, all my known forwarders pass spam when user want to have it forwarded

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Re: whitelist_from ip_range

2007-04-17 Thread Benny Pedersen

On Tue, April 17, 2007 01:57, Duane Hill wrote:

> http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/TrustPath

to me a bit hardcore to read, but it have all ip that is known forwards mails
to me as trusted_networks even if its still not my servers, and have maked the
complete rfc1918 in trusted_networks and internal_networks added to this i
have my own wan ip's in both

should be it :-)

trusted_networks 10.0.0.0/8
trusted_networks 172.16.0.0/12
trusted_networks 192.168.0.0/16
trusted_networks 127.0.0.0/8

internal_networks 10.0.0.0/8
internal_networks 172.16.0.0/12
internal_networks 192.168.0.0/16
internal_networks 127.0.0.0/8

and last my wan ips as trusted_networks and internal_networks

after this all known forward ips as trusted_networks

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Re: whitelist_from ip_range

2007-04-16 Thread Duane Hill

On Mon, 16 Apr 2007, Kelson wrote:


Benny Pedersen wrote:

On Sat, April 14, 2007 10:31, Wael Shahin wrote:


whitelist_from 172.16.0.0/16


trusted_networks 172.16.0.0/16

whitelist_from is for email not for ip :-)


That won't do what you think.  trusted_networks is for IPs that you trust to 
provide honest header information, not IPs that you trust not to send spam.


A more concise definition from the wiki:

http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/TrustPath

Trusted Networks

Generally you want trusted_networks set to contain all the mailservers
you control that add Received: headers, and nothing else.

Internal Networks

Set 'internal_networks' to include the hosts that act as MX for your
domains, or that may deliver mail internally in your organisation.

Set 'trusted_networks' to include the same hosts and networks as
'internal_networks', with the addition of some hosts that are
external to your organisation which you trust to not be under the
control of spammers. For example, very high-volume mail relays at
other ISPs, or mailing list servers. Note that it doesn't matter if
the server relays spam to you from other hosts; that still means you
trust the server not to originate spam, which is what
'trusted_networks' specifies.


Re: whitelist_from ip_range

2007-04-16 Thread Kelson

Benny Pedersen wrote:

On Sat, April 14, 2007 10:31, Wael Shahin wrote:


whitelist_from 172.16.0.0/16


trusted_networks 172.16.0.0/16

whitelist_from is for email not for ip :-)


That won't do what you think.  trusted_networks is for IPs that you 
trust to provide honest header information, not IPs that you trust not 
to send spam.


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Re: whitelist_from ip_range

2007-04-14 Thread Wael Shahin

Opps,
looks like i totally messed up

thaks Benny
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On Sat, April 14, 2007 10:31, Wael Shahin wrote:


whitelist_from 172.16.0.0/16


trusted_networks 172.16.0.0/16

whitelist_from is for email not for ip :-)

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Re: whitelist_from ip_range

2007-04-14 Thread Benny Pedersen

On Sat, April 14, 2007 10:31, Wael Shahin wrote:

> whitelist_from 172.16.0.0/16

trusted_networks 172.16.0.0/16

whitelist_from is for email not for ip :-)

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whitelist_from ip_range

2007-04-14 Thread Wael Shahin
Hello,
I was not lucky to get information about how to whitelist IP Range
should it be something like
whitelist_from 172.16.
or
whitelist_from 172.16.0.0-172.16.255.255
or
whitelist_from 172.16.0.0/16

thank you