Re: Old repo backup, checkout current, lost repo, create new repo?

2018-12-09 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 6:31 PM Tom Browder  wrote:
>
> I have three svn repos I recently (6 months ago) moved to my private, remote 
> server. Due to life and negligence, I only have one svn hotcopy of two of 
> them made immediately after the move.
>
> A week ago the disk with the three repos failed.
>
> I have current copies of each repo’s trunk (I’m not not using branches) and 
> want to know the best way to get the repos back in place and working again.
>
> I am the only user, and I use the svn+ssh access to the repo completely owned 
> by myself. History is not terribly important.

Sounds like time to simply start new repos with your three projects.
Import the contents of the local working to new trunks, and move on.

> From what I can find in various docs, I think the easiest way to recover is 
> to copy the 6-month-old hot copy to the original path and resume working from 
> there as usual (plus make sure my backups work in the future!). For the other 
> I will just recreate the repo from scratch.
>
> Given that history will be lost, does anyone see any problems with my 
> recovery plan?

If you have working copies and you don't care about history, why are
you spending any cycles on doing anything with hotcopy? You've lost
history anyway, why keep any of it?

> Thanks for any advice.
>
> Best regards,
>
> -Tom
>
>


Re: Problems accessing GitHub's SVN-bridge with SVN 1.11

2018-12-09 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 12:30 AM Branko Čibej  wrote:
>
> On 09.12.2018 23:41, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 1:27 PM Branko Čibej  wrote:
> >> On 09.12.2018 19:14, Thorsten Schöning wrote:
> >>> Guten Tag Thorsten Schöning,
> >>> am Mittwoch, 21. November 2018 um 15:23 schrieben Sie:
> >>>
> > Thanks for following up. Our engineers have been able to reproduce
> > the error on our CI system and are working on a fix.
> >>> Another two weeks have passed without any hint to the status of this
> >>> problem from GH and I don't have the feeling that they are really
> >>> working on this.
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone have any other infos? If not, does the SVN-team has any
> >>> plans to release their workaround mentioned in the following ticket?
> >>>
> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SVN-4789
> >> So, as I said in one of the mails referred to in that issue ... I'd
> >> really prefer not to do that. Yet on the other hand, that GitHub->SVN
> >> bridge is useful to users who're not locked into the gitficionado world.
> >>
> >> My current thinking is that if GitHub can't fix their protocol emulation
> >> by the time of the planned Subversion 1.12 release, we'll have to
> >> seriously consider including this patch.
> >>
> >> But I'd still rather not ...
> > I've reviewed the directions at
> > https://help.github.com/articles/support-for-subversion-clients/ , and
> > it's a fairly ugly hack, and work to do the integrated checkouts. The
> > last person I met who used it switched, with my help, to using git,
> > and using git-svn for access to their local Subversion repositories so
> > that they could commit working changes locally before submitting them
> > to the upstream Subversion repository. I recognize that this is *not*
> > the standard Subversion workflow, but I understood his desire to
> > publish upstream only the changes he wished to submit.
> >
> > I'm afraid that the Subversion gateways to github.com are a niche
> > market, and not one likely to get eager support from github.com
> > without a compelling business reason to support them. The learning
> > curve to use git effectively is pretty steep, but the market for
> > Subversion-only users has been shrinking profoundly over the last
> > decade.
>
> So, what you're saying is that we have to revive and finish the ra_git
> branch. :)
>
> -- Brane

If that tool supports using an upstream git repository on a Subversion
client. maybe? If that could be accomplished in some reasonable
amount of time? But I'd be *extremely* leery of connecting Subversion
clients, which rely on the mothership being the sources of all change
revisions, to an upstream git server. As distasteful s it may be to
Subversion fans, I'm saying the time is better spent in most
commercial or development environments learning to use git-svn so you
can get used to a git workflow and use it, as needed, to talk to the
Subversion servers. It also permits cloning and local development of a
Subversion repository without asking permission to write branches. It
is, in fact, what I used the last time I submitted patches to
Subversion itself. (Which has been a long time, I admit, my suggested
patches have never been that critical.)


Re: Problems accessing GitHub's SVN-bridge with SVN 1.11

2018-12-09 Thread Branko Čibej
On 09.12.2018 23:41, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 1:27 PM Branko Čibej  wrote:
>> On 09.12.2018 19:14, Thorsten Schöning wrote:
>>> Guten Tag Thorsten Schöning,
>>> am Mittwoch, 21. November 2018 um 15:23 schrieben Sie:
>>>
> Thanks for following up. Our engineers have been able to reproduce
> the error on our CI system and are working on a fix.
>>> Another two weeks have passed without any hint to the status of this
>>> problem from GH and I don't have the feeling that they are really
>>> working on this.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any other infos? If not, does the SVN-team has any
>>> plans to release their workaround mentioned in the following ticket?
>>>
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SVN-4789
>> So, as I said in one of the mails referred to in that issue ... I'd
>> really prefer not to do that. Yet on the other hand, that GitHub->SVN
>> bridge is useful to users who're not locked into the gitficionado world.
>>
>> My current thinking is that if GitHub can't fix their protocol emulation
>> by the time of the planned Subversion 1.12 release, we'll have to
>> seriously consider including this patch.
>>
>> But I'd still rather not ...
> I've reviewed the directions at
> https://help.github.com/articles/support-for-subversion-clients/ , and
> it's a fairly ugly hack, and work to do the integrated checkouts. The
> last person I met who used it switched, with my help, to using git,
> and using git-svn for access to their local Subversion repositories so
> that they could commit working changes locally before submitting them
> to the upstream Subversion repository. I recognize that this is *not*
> the standard Subversion workflow, but I understood his desire to
> publish upstream only the changes he wished to submit.
>
> I'm afraid that the Subversion gateways to github.com are a niche
> market, and not one likely to get eager support from github.com
> without a compelling business reason to support them. The learning
> curve to use git effectively is pretty steep, but the market for
> Subversion-only users has been shrinking profoundly over the last
> decade.

So, what you're saying is that we have to revive and finish the ra_git
branch. :)

-- Brane



Old repo backup, checkout current, lost repo, create new repo?

2018-12-09 Thread Tom Browder
I have three svn repos I recently (6 months ago) moved to my private,
remote server. Due to life and negligence, I only have one svn hotcopy of
two of them made immediately after the move.

A week ago the disk with the three repos failed.

I have current copies of each repo’s trunk (I’m not not using branches) and
want to know the best way to get the repos back in place and working again.

I am the only user, and I use the svn+ssh access to the repo completely
owned by myself. History is not terribly important.

>From what I can find in various docs, I think the easiest way to recover is
to copy the 6-month-old hot copy to the original path and resume working
from there as usual (plus make sure my backups work in the future!). For
the other I will just recreate the repo from scratch.

Given that history will be lost, does anyone see any problems with my
recovery plan?

Thanks for any advice.

Best regards,

-Tom


Re: Problems accessing GitHub's SVN-bridge with SVN 1.11

2018-12-09 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 1:27 PM Branko Čibej  wrote:
>
> On 09.12.2018 19:14, Thorsten Schöning wrote:
> > Guten Tag Thorsten Schöning,
> > am Mittwoch, 21. November 2018 um 15:23 schrieben Sie:
> >
> >>> Thanks for following up. Our engineers have been able to reproduce
> >>> the error on our CI system and are working on a fix.
> > Another two weeks have passed without any hint to the status of this
> > problem from GH and I don't have the feeling that they are really
> > working on this.
> >
> > Does anyone have any other infos? If not, does the SVN-team has any
> > plans to release their workaround mentioned in the following ticket?
> >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SVN-4789
>
> So, as I said in one of the mails referred to in that issue ... I'd
> really prefer not to do that. Yet on the other hand, that GitHub->SVN
> bridge is useful to users who're not locked into the gitficionado world.
>
> My current thinking is that if GitHub can't fix their protocol emulation
> by the time of the planned Subversion 1.12 release, we'll have to
> seriously consider including this patch.
>
> But I'd still rather not ...

I've reviewed the directions at
https://help.github.com/articles/support-for-subversion-clients/ , and
it's a fairly ugly hack, and work to do the integrated checkouts. The
last person I met who used it switched, with my help, to using git,
and using git-svn for access to their local Subversion repositories so
that they could commit working changes locally before submitting them
to the upstream Subversion repository. I recognize that this is *not*
the standard Subversion workflow, but I understood his desire to
publish upstream only the changes he wished to submit.

I'm afraid that the Subversion gateways to github.com are a niche
market, and not one likely to get eager support from github.com
without a compelling business reason to support them. The learning
curve to use git effectively is pretty steep, but the market for
Subversion-only users has been shrinking profoundly over the last
decade.


Re: Problems accessing GitHub's SVN-bridge with SVN 1.11

2018-12-09 Thread Branko Čibej
On 09.12.2018 19:14, Thorsten Schöning wrote:
> Guten Tag Thorsten Schöning,
> am Mittwoch, 21. November 2018 um 15:23 schrieben Sie:
>
>>> Thanks for following up. Our engineers have been able to reproduce
>>> the error on our CI system and are working on a fix.
> Another two weeks have passed without any hint to the status of this
> problem from GH and I don't have the feeling that they are really
> working on this.
>
> Does anyone have any other infos? If not, does the SVN-team has any
> plans to release their workaround mentioned in the following ticket?
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SVN-4789

So, as I said in one of the mails referred to in that issue ... I'd
really prefer not to do that. Yet on the other hand, that GitHub->SVN
bridge is useful to users who're not locked into the gitficionado world.

My current thinking is that if GitHub can't fix their protocol emulation
by the time of the planned Subversion 1.12 release, we'll have to
seriously consider including this patch.

But I'd still rather not ...

-- Brane



Re: Problems accessing GitHub's SVN-bridge with SVN 1.11

2018-12-09 Thread Thorsten Schöning
Guten Tag Thorsten Schöning,
am Mittwoch, 21. November 2018 um 15:23 schrieben Sie:

>> Thanks for following up. Our engineers have been able to reproduce
>> the error on our CI system and are working on a fix.

Another two weeks have passed without any hint to the status of this
problem from GH and I don't have the feeling that they are really
working on this.

Does anyone have any other infos? If not, does the SVN-team has any
plans to release their workaround mentioned in the following ticket?

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SVN-4789

Mit freundlichen Grüßen,

Thorsten Schöning

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