Re: Update deleted local changes after rollback

2010-08-15 Thread Johan Corveleyn
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Ulrich Eckhardt
eckha...@satorlaser.com wrote:
 On Thursday 12 August 2010, erlend olsen wrote:
[...]
 B: commits new code.
 A: is happy because now everything works on his local copy. Then he pushes
 'update' in netbeans before he commits. SVN: now deletes all of A's
 changes and new files..

 I don't think so, as SVN tries very hard to preserve any user changes. If a
 file was deleted in the repository, SVN won't delete a local copy of a file
 if that contains modifications. If a file was modified, and those changes
 conflict with local changes, SVN will notify the user of this and attempt at
 resolving the conflict, but it first moves all three versions to separate
 files.

Unless A was using a svn client version 1.5.x or lower (i.e.
pre-tree-conflict-detection). In that case, yes, I think an incoming
delete from update could probably wipe away local modifications (if
I'm not mistaken).

Any idea which version of svn is incorporated into the netbeans
version that A uses?

-- 
Johan


RE: Update deleted local changes after rollback

2010-08-12 Thread Giulio Troccoli






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From: erlend olsen [mailto:eolse...@hotmail.com]
Sent: 12 August 2010 13:53
To: users@subversion.apache.org
Subject: Update deleted local changes after rollback


Hi all, me and my colleague have lost big changes in our code...

here's a quick summary:



repository has these files:

x
y
z

A: commits changes to all the files and adds 2 new files

repository now has these files:

p
q
x
y
z

B: Sees that these changes f**ks up the whole program and he rollbacks 
to only x,y,z

A: keeps his changes locally and keeps changing them until they work...

B: commits new code.

A: is happy because now everything works on his local copy. Then he 
pushes 'update' in netbeans before he commits.

SVN: now deletes all of A's  changes and new files..

A: screams in terror and tries to get back his files... but not a 
chance... He can get the changes he committed before the rollback, but the real 
big changes are now deleted



Is there a way to undo this update? Or to save us the next time, is 
there a way to take a local backup before updating???
Please help we're desperate here... Its about 1 week of programming 
down the toilet...


Erlend Olsen



How exactly did he rollback to only x,y,z?

Please, do not post in HTML.

Giulio


Re: Update deleted local changes after rollback

2010-08-12 Thread Ulrich Eckhardt
On Thursday 12 August 2010, erlend olsen wrote:
 repository has these files:
 xyz
 A: commits changes to all the files and adds 2 new files
 repository now has these files:
 pqxyz
 B: Sees that these changes f**ks up the whole program and he rollbacks to
 only x,y,z

I guess he reverse-merge the according revision or manually reverted the 
changes. It shouldn't matter.

 A: keeps his changes locally and keeps changing them until they 
 work...

Both A and B should have first talked with each other. A would then have 
created a branch probably.

 B: commits new code. 
 A: is happy because now everything works on his local copy. Then he pushes
 'update' in netbeans before he commits. SVN: now deletes all of A's 
 changes and new files..

I don't think so, as SVN tries very hard to preserve any user changes. If a 
file was deleted in the repository, SVN won't delete a local copy of a file 
if that contains modifications. If a file was modified, and those changes 
conflict with local changes, SVN will notify the user of this and attempt at 
resolving the conflict, but it first moves all three versions to separate 
files.

 A: screams in terror and tries to get back his files... but not a chance...
 He can get the changes he committed before the rollback, but the real big
 changes are now deleted

As I mentioned, SVN preserves those changes unless explicitly asked to throw 
them away (some --force options on the commandline). I don't know what 
netbeans' update button does. Also, if there are conflicts (I'm sure SVN 
would have complained), you can always choose resolve using theirs, which 
implies that your own changes are discarded. If your colleague chose that, 
it's a user error.

 Its about 1 week of programming down the toilet...

Going one week without proper version control, without being able to backstep 
any changes, without the benefits of a centralised backup system, without 
updating the own WCs to see if changes conflict? Don't do that.

Note that if you had created a branch, you could have done these extensive 
changes in separation but still with version control etc, you should learn 
that. However, it still remains to find out what steps exactly lead to this 
data loss.

Sorry!

Uli

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