Re: Upgrade 1.5.4 to 1.7.5

2012-08-03 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Stefan Sperling  wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 07:21:20AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
>> Cool!!! I was looking at
>> http://software.opensuse.org/package/subversion, which lists 1.6.18.
>> Looks like they need to update that webpage.
>
> Click on "Show other versions" and then on "Show unstable packages"
> for the particular Suse version of interest. Then you'll see them.

Let me get my eyes to stop bleeding first as I try to see that very,
very faint print for "Show other versions". Really, I could not see it
on the small screen I was using.

But cool, it's there, thanks for the corection. It's nice to have in
the thread, too.


Re: Upgrade 1.5.4 to 1.7.5

2012-08-03 Thread Mat Booth
On 3 August 2012 10:42, Stefan Sperling  wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 10:20:12AM +0100, Mat Booth wrote:
>> Maybe try our ready-built binaries for SuSe:
>> http://www.wandisco.com/subversion/download#suse
>
> Mat, this list is a support channel of the Apache Subversion project,
> not a Wandisco support channel. So it is more appropriate to link to
> the Apache Subversion project's official page for binary packages,
> which is: http://subversion.apache.org/packages.html
>
> For Suse in particular there are up-to-date packages provided by the
> Suse package maintainers themselves, via the OpenSUSE buildservice.
> I'm not saying these binaries were any better than Wandisco's for any
> particular purpose. But linking to the full list of available packages
> gives people more options and provides equal visibility to all packaging
> efforts. Please consider this. Thanks!

I apologise for sounding like a shill, I just feel it would be wrong
of me to recommend something I have no experience with. Next time I
will link to that page, thanks. :-)

-- 
Mat Booth
Software Engineer
WANdisco, Inc.
http://www.wandisco.com


Re: Upgrade 1.5.4 to 1.7.5

2012-08-03 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 07:21:20AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> Cool!!! I was looking at
> http://software.opensuse.org/package/subversion, which lists 1.6.18.
> Looks like they need to update that webpage.

Click on "Show other versions" and then on "Show unstable packages"
for the particular Suse version of interest. Then you'll see them.

The 1.7.5 package is in a separate package repository called
devel:tools:scm:svn which serves as the development repository
for all of Suse's Subversion packaging efforts.
The repository is created automatically by the build service and can
be added to yum like any other third-party repository to make packages
within it available for installation.
The packages sitting in the development repository move to the official
distribution repository whenever a new Suse release is made. So packages
from the build service blend into the distribution just like packages from
the official distribution repository do, and don't require registration
with a third party.


Re: Upgrade 1.5.4 to 1.7.5

2012-08-03 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 6:32 AM, Stefan Sperling  wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 06:17:02AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
>> The problem is that Robin was asking about subversion 1.7.5,
>> which is not currently in the OpenSuSE
>> repositories and I'm reasonably certain not in the SLES repositories.
>
> It is available. Follow the link from packages.html, click your
> way through the menu ("Grab binary packages directly") and you'll find
> these and more:
> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/tools:/scm:/svn/SLE_11/i586/subversion-1.7.5-83.1.i586.rpm
> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/tools:/scm:/svn/openSUSE_12.2/i586/subversion-1.7.5-87.1.i586.rpm

Cool!!! I was looking at
http://software.opensuse.org/package/subversion, which lists 1.6.18.
Looks like they need to update that webpage.


Re: Upgrade 1.5.4 to 1.7.5

2012-08-03 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 06:17:02AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> The problem is that Robin was asking about subversion 1.7.5,
> which is not currently in the OpenSuSE
> repositories and I'm reasonably certain not in the SLES repositories.

It is available. Follow the link from packages.html, click your
way through the menu ("Grab binary packages directly") and you'll find
these and more:
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/tools:/scm:/svn/SLE_11/i586/subversion-1.7.5-83.1.i586.rpm
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/tools:/scm:/svn/openSUSE_12.2/i586/subversion-1.7.5-87.1.i586.rpm


Re: Upgrade 1.5.4 to 1.7.5

2012-08-03 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 5:42 AM, Stefan Sperling  wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 10:20:12AM +0100, Mat Booth wrote:
>> Maybe try our ready-built binaries for SuSe:
>> http://www.wandisco.com/subversion/download#suse
>
> Mat, this list is a support channel of the Apache Subversion project,
> not a Wandisco support channel. So it is more appropriate to link to
> the Apache Subversion project's official page for binary packages,
> which is: http://subversion.apache.org/packages.html

Good morning, Stefan!

You've a reasonable point: I did something similar to Mat, pointing
Robin to my RHEL compatible tools. The problem is that Robin was
asking about subversion 1.7.5, which is not currently in the OpenSuSE
repositories and I'm reasonably certain not in the SLES repositories.

> For Suse in particular there are up-to-date packages provided by the
> Suse package maintainers themselves, via the OpenSUSE buildservice.

I'm afraid not. See above: they're at 1.6.18, not 1.7.5.

> I'm not saying these binaries were any better than Wandisco's for any
> particular purpose. But linking to the full list of available packages
> gives people more options and provides equal visibility to all packaging
> efforts. Please consider this. Thanks!

You've a good point. What would it take to get Repoforge listed for
RHEL compatible components? That's where my last published build
components for subversion-1.7.4 wound up, and where I'm trying to get
the update to 1.7.5 for RHEL access.


Re: Upgrade 1.5.4 to 1.7.5

2012-08-03 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 4:16 AM,   wrote:
>
> Hi Subversion fellows,
>
> we plan to upgrade our Subversion Server from version 1.5.4 to 1.7.5
>
> Subversion runs in a context of  a HTTPD version 2.2.3 with FSFS repository
> structure.
>
> It has been build manually by compiling the source code.
>
> Server environment is a SLES system.

Robin, if you're on SLES 11 or later, I urge you to go to
http://www.wandisco.com/subversion/download and grab their 1.7.5
RPM's. Just save yourself time building it, and get a working toolkit.

If you have the skills to build it well manually, you have the skills
to build RPM's. I'm going to assume you've done so, and if not, you're
welcome to my SRPM components for Red Hat based systems at
https://github.com/nkadel/subversion-1.7.5-srpm. They'd need tuning
for SLES: the latest version I see published for OpenSuSE directly is
1.6.17. If you need to rebuild 1.7.5 from that SRPM, it should be
pretty easy, especially if you hit my .spec file for 1.7.5
differences. (My published 1.6.18 and 1.7.5 .spec files have been
synchronized to avoid irrelevant discrepancies.)

> My humble questions are the following:
>
> Do I just need to compile the new source and overwrite the existing binary
> files?
> Are there any new dependencies or upgrades?

Yeah, especially if you want features like the kwallet tools. The psvn
add-on tool also has new Emacs version dependencies, and it's unclear
which SLES release you are using, so it's unclear if you'll have the
Python dependencies to cmpile it.

> It's long ago since I installed Subversion and I'm not an advanced Linux
> administrator in case of installing software by hand from source code.

Then avoid it. Use the RPM's or build from the SRPM's to get a new
version: that helps tremendously with resolving dependencies. Many
tools, such as subversion, only enable certain features if you have
the local libraries at configuration and build time, and working with
the SRPM's helps assure that you have them available.

>
> So I thank you in advance for your anwers and hints.
>
>
> Best regards
> Robin Güldenpfennig
>

Not a problem. I'm getting very fond of the bundled toolkits from
Wandisco: the site management toolkits are very useful.


Re: Upgrade 1.5.4 to 1.7.5

2012-08-03 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 10:20:12AM +0100, Mat Booth wrote:
> Maybe try our ready-built binaries for SuSe:
> http://www.wandisco.com/subversion/download#suse

Mat, this list is a support channel of the Apache Subversion project,
not a Wandisco support channel. So it is more appropriate to link to
the Apache Subversion project's official page for binary packages,
which is: http://subversion.apache.org/packages.html

For Suse in particular there are up-to-date packages provided by the
Suse package maintainers themselves, via the OpenSUSE buildservice.
I'm not saying these binaries were any better than Wandisco's for any
particular purpose. But linking to the full list of available packages
gives people more options and provides equal visibility to all packaging
efforts. Please consider this. Thanks!


Re: Upgrade 1.5.4 to 1.7.5

2012-08-03 Thread Lorenz
robin.gueldenpfen...@enercon.de wrote:

>
>Hi Subversion fellows,
>
>we plan to upgrade our Subversion Server from version 1.5.4 to 1.7.5
>
>Subversion runs in a context of  a HTTPD version 2.2.3 with FSFS repository
>structure.
>
>It has been build manually by compiling the source code.
>
>Server environment is a SLES system.
>
>
>My humble questions are the following:
>
>Do I just need to compile the new source and overwrite the existing binary
>files?
>Are there any new dependencies or upgrades?
>
>It's long ago since I installed Subversion and I'm not an advanced Linux
>administrator in case of installing software by hand from source code.
>
>So I thank you in advance for your anwers and hints.


have a look at http://software.opensuse.org/package/subversion
-- 

Lorenz



Re: Upgrade 1.5.4 to 1.7.5

2012-08-03 Thread Mat Booth
On 3 August 2012 09:16,   wrote:
>
> Hi Subversion fellows,
>
> we plan to upgrade our Subversion Server from version 1.5.4 to 1.7.5
>
> Subversion runs in a context of  a HTTPD version 2.2.3 with FSFS repository
> structure.
>
> It has been build manually by compiling the source code.
>
> Server environment is a SLES system.
>
>
> My humble questions are the following:
>
> Do I just need to compile the new source and overwrite the existing binary
> files?
> Are there any new dependencies or upgrades?
>
> It's long ago since I installed Subversion and I'm not an advanced Linux
> administrator in case of installing software by hand from source code.
>
> So I thank you in advance for your anwers and hints.
>
>
> Best regards
> Robin Güldenpfennig
>

Maybe try our ready-built binaries for SuSe:
http://www.wandisco.com/subversion/download#suse

That way you shouldn't have to worry about dependencies.

-- 
Mat Booth
Software Engineer
WANdisco, Inc.
http://www.wandisco.com