Re: Discussion- the verdict
I started with tapestry 5.1.2 some months ago thanks to a book called Tapestry 5 from Alexander Kolesnikov. It was a bit hard to understand how to create sites with this framework and yes, i also noticed the lack of documentation but with each new release it went better. Each time i had a problem i just came to this board and it was solved very fast, the documentation has increased by a lot on the last months and its going better and better very fast. A Tapestry in Action book is on the way too and i think this framework is great. I near left tapestry because of that kind of comments on some forums but finally i decided not to and im very happy with my decision. Im starting to understand a lot of new things and the way Tapestry+Hibernate work is just great. Its very easy to create new modules and componentes even if they need new Hibernate Entities, add this component to your maven dependencies and its working and the new entities created and managed by Hibernate without aditional configuration making extensibility easier and fast. I think tapestry, with a bit more documentation will be a great framework and will make things easier and faster. Its hard to start? Yes... and i will try to help with simple tutorials from my own experiences since i was a totally newbie some months ago, but i think think in a short time, we will get our reward. We just need to show the people how easy it is and the potential it has. -- View this message in context: http://tapestry.1045711.n5.nabble.com/Re-Discussion-the-verdict-tp3337928p3339859.html Sent from the Tapestry - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
Re: Discussion- the verdict
Yes, it's a pity that someone might be put off using the framework because of vocal, and misinformed minority. There's really no substitute for trying something yourself... On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 09:50 -0200, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo wrote: On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 08:53:41 -0200, George Banus georgeba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Guys, Hi! So, I'm sorry I have to say that I'm saving my time and effort in learning Tapestry for something else. This is my decision for now, though I might change it in 3 or 4 years time after I notice some stability and consistencies in Tapestry releases. Please check the stability and consistency of all releases since Tapestry 5.1, the first T5 stable release. And don't believe everything you read on in the Internet. ;) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
Re: Discussion- the verdict
Hi Guys, I gave up on Tapestry. This was based on the overwhelmingly negative comments I've been reading about Tapestry on the Internet. Outside of this forum, I see no positive message about Tapestry anywhere. And that makes me very suspicious about the viability of this framework, besides all the nice and charming messages I have heard from you guys in this thread. So, I'm sorry I have to say that I'm saving my time and effort in learning Tapestry for something else. This is my decision for now, though I might change it in 3 or 4 years time after I notice some stability and consistencies in Tapestry releases. Again, sorry for this news :-( Bye, George On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 11:48 AM, George Banus georgeba...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, I am a newbie to Tapestry and while googling to learn more about tapestry, I found this discussion going on at http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=61537. Some of the comments look very disappointing. Is Tapestry really used for serious projects? George
Re: Discussion- the verdict
George that's your problem not ours .. And the title verdict indicates that you have som legal authority ... I think we T5:ers have a competitive advantage and really see no need for spreading the light ... :-) T5 - Code less - Deliver more One could add Gossip less and shut down TSS Gunnar Eketrapp 2011/1/12 George Banus georgeba...@gmail.com Hi Guys, I gave up on Tapestry. This was based on the overwhelmingly negative comments I've been reading about Tapestry on the Internet. Outside of this forum, I see no positive message about Tapestry anywhere. And that makes me very suspicious about the viability of this framework, besides all the nice and charming messages I have heard from you guys in this thread. So, I'm sorry I have to say that I'm saving my time and effort in learning Tapestry for something else. This is my decision for now, though I might change it in 3 or 4 years time after I notice some stability and consistencies in Tapestry releases. Again, sorry for this news :-( Bye, George On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 11:48 AM, George Banus georgeba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am a newbie to Tapestry and while googling to learn more about tapestry, I found this discussion going on at http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=61537. Some of the comments look very disappointing. Is Tapestry really used for serious projects? George -- [Hem: 08-715 59 57, Mobil: 0708-52 62 90] Allévägen 2A, 132 42 Saltsjö-Boo
Re: Discussion- the verdict
George, we wish you a nice journey with regards Sven Homburg Founder of the Chenille Kit Project http://chenillekit.codehaus.org 2011/1/12 George Banus georgeba...@gmail.com: Hi Guys, I gave up on Tapestry. This was based on the overwhelmingly negative comments I've been reading about Tapestry on the Internet. Outside of this forum, I see no positive message about Tapestry anywhere. And that makes me very suspicious about the viability of this framework, besides all the nice and charming messages I have heard from you guys in this thread. So, I'm sorry I have to say that I'm saving my time and effort in learning Tapestry for something else. This is my decision for now, though I might change it in 3 or 4 years time after I notice some stability and consistencies in Tapestry releases. Again, sorry for this news :-( Bye, George On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 11:48 AM, George Banus georgeba...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, I am a newbie to Tapestry and while googling to learn more about tapestry, I found this discussion going on at http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=61537. Some of the comments look very disappointing. Is Tapestry really used for serious projects? George - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
Re: Discussion- the verdict
On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 08:53:41 -0200, George Banus georgeba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Guys, Hi! So, I'm sorry I have to say that I'm saving my time and effort in learning Tapestry for something else. This is my decision for now, though I might change it in 3 or 4 years time after I notice some stability and consistencies in Tapestry releases. Please check the stability and consistency of all releases since Tapestry 5.1, the first T5 stable release. And don't believe everything you read on in the Internet. ;) -- Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo Independent Java, Apache Tapestry 5 and Hibernate consultant, developer, and instructor Owner, Ars Machina Tecnologia da Informação Ltda. http://www.arsmachina.com.br - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
Re: Discussion- the verdict
Thiago, don't waste your time. Most probably the guy is yet another troll. He wrote 2 messages to the list: both about the TSS thread. On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo thiag...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 08:53:41 -0200, George Banus georgeba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Guys, Hi! So, I'm sorry I have to say that I'm saving my time and effort in learning Tapestry for something else. This is my decision for now, though I might change it in 3 or 4 years time after I notice some stability and consistencies in Tapestry releases. Please check the stability and consistency of all releases since Tapestry 5.1, the first T5 stable release. And don't believe everything you read on in the Internet. ;) -- Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo Independent Java, Apache Tapestry 5 and Hibernate consultant, developer, and instructor Owner, Ars Machina Tecnologia da Informação Ltda. http://www.arsmachina.com.br - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org -- Best regards, Igor Drobiazko http://tapestry5.de
Re: Discussion- the verdict
Hi Igor We should answer these threads as these threads come up in search engines when some newbie is searching tapestry related information. It is threads like these which prevented me from considering Tapestry in my projects for so long. regards Taha On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Igor Drobiazko igor.drobia...@gmail.comwrote: Thiago, don't waste your time. Most probably the guy is yet another troll. He wrote 2 messages to the list: both about the TSS thread. On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo thiag...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 08:53:41 -0200, George Banus georgeba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Guys, Hi! So, I'm sorry I have to say that I'm saving my time and effort in learning Tapestry for something else. This is my decision for now, though I might change it in 3 or 4 years time after I notice some stability and consistencies in Tapestry releases. Please check the stability and consistency of all releases since Tapestry 5.1, the first T5 stable release. And don't believe everything you read on in the Internet. ;) -- Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo Independent Java, Apache Tapestry 5 and Hibernate consultant, developer, and instructor Owner, Ars Machina Tecnologia da Informação Ltda. http://www.arsmachina.com.br - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org -- Best regards, Igor Drobiazko http://tapestry5.de