Re: Ok, really dumb questions about ioc scopes...

2010-07-18 Thread Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 22:35:03 -0300, Christian Gruber  
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(that last message came out a little cattier than I meant, Thiago.   
Sorry)


No problem, Christian. :)

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Ok, really dumb questions about ioc scopes...

2010-07-16 Thread Christian Edward Gruber
I see singleton and per-thread... and there's an implicit session  
scope wiht SessionState annotations...


Are there session and reqeust scopes?  I've managed to avoid a  
request-scoped object until now, but I think I need one in the ioc...   
but I don't see these two scopes explicitly documented anywhere.


Is there a web equivalent to ScopeConstants?  Or just well-defined,  
documented scope names?


Christian.


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Re: Ok, really dumb questions about ioc scopes...

2010-07-16 Thread Howard Lewis Ship
per-thread is the same as request within a Tapestry application.
There's been talk about a sesson scope, but it doesn't exist.
SessionState are not services so there's no scope for them.

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Christian Edward Gruber
christianedwardgru...@gmail.com wrote:
 I see singleton and per-thread... and there's an implicit session scope wiht
 SessionState annotations...

 Are there session and reqeust scopes?  I've managed to avoid a
 request-scoped object until now, but I think I need one in the ioc...  but I
 don't see these two scopes explicitly documented anywhere.

 Is there a web equivalent to ScopeConstants?  Or just well-defined,
 documented scope names?

 Christian.


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Re: Ok, really dumb questions about ioc scopes...

2010-07-16 Thread Christian Edward Gruber
Check.  Ok - I wasn't sure about per-thread, since it's possible to  
implement thread scope against a request object, instead of per-thread.


thanks,
Christian.

On Jul 16, 2010, at 2:39 PM, Howard Lewis Ship wrote:


per-thread is the same as request within a Tapestry application.
There's been talk about a sesson scope, but it doesn't exist.
SessionState are not services so there's no scope for them.

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Christian Edward Gruber
christianedwardgru...@gmail.com wrote:
I see singleton and per-thread... and there's an implicit session  
scope wiht

SessionState annotations...

Are there session and reqeust scopes?  I've managed to avoid a
request-scoped object until now, but I think I need one in the  
ioc...  but I

don't see these two scopes explicitly documented anywhere.

Is there a web equivalent to ScopeConstants?  Or just well-defined,
documented scope names?

Christian.


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Re: Ok, really dumb questions about ioc scopes...

2010-07-16 Thread Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:30:15 -0300, Christian Edward Gruber  
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I see singleton and per-thread... and there's an implicit session scope  
wiht SessionState annotations...


Are there session and reqeust scopes?


As a T-IoC scope, no. There are annotations and services that use the  
servlet request and session, but this is not related to T-IoC.


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Re: Ok, really dumb questions about ioc scopes...

2010-07-16 Thread Christian Edward Gruber
I need to bind a service into request scope, so it's whatever I need  
to do in my module.


On Jul 16, 2010, at 3:03 PM, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:30:15 -0300, Christian Edward Gruber christianedwardgru...@gmail.com 
 wrote:


I see singleton and per-thread... and there's an implicit session  
scope wiht SessionState annotations...


Are there session and reqeust scopes?


As a T-IoC scope, no. There are annotations and services that use  
the servlet request and session, but this is not related to T-IoC.


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Re: Ok, really dumb questions about ioc scopes...

2010-07-16 Thread Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:07:58 -0300, Christian Edward Gruber  
christianedwardgru...@gmail.com wrote:


I need to bind a service into request scope, so it's whatever I need to  
do in my module.


In web applications, unless you create new threads, request scope is the  
same as thread scope. If this is not your scenario, creating a request  
scope shouldn't be hard. I never needed to implement a scope.


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Re: Ok, really dumb questions about ioc scopes...

2010-07-16 Thread Christian Edward Gruber
Heh.  I don't need to be schooled in web development :)  But most  
ioc frameworks have a web-centric naming for such a scope, and I  
wanted to be sure that the right way to do it was with per-thread.


cheers,
Christian.

On Jul 16, 2010, at 3:24 PM, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:07:58 -0300, Christian Edward Gruber christianedwardgru...@gmail.com 
 wrote:


I need to bind a service into request scope, so it's whatever I  
need to do in my module.


In web applications, unless you create new threads, request scope is  
the same as thread scope. If this is not your scenario, creating a  
request scope shouldn't be hard. I never needed to implement a scope.


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Re: Ok, really dumb questions about ioc scopes...

2010-07-16 Thread Christian Gruber
(that last message came out a little cattier than I meant, Thiago.  Sorry)

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Christian Edward Gruber 
christianedwardgru...@gmail.com wrote:

 Heh.  I don't need to be schooled in web development :)  But most ioc
 frameworks have a web-centric naming for such a scope, and I wanted to be
 sure that the right way to do it was with per-thread.

 cheers,
 Christian.


 On Jul 16, 2010, at 3:24 PM, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo wrote:

  On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:07:58 -0300, Christian Edward Gruber 
 christianedwardgru...@gmail.com wrote:

  I need to bind a service into request scope, so it's whatever I need to
 do in my module.


 In web applications, unless you create new threads, request scope is the
 same as thread scope. If this is not your scenario, creating a request scope
 shouldn't be hard. I never needed to implement a scope.

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