Re: RE: RE: JFly Application Framework is out

2006-07-19 Thread Robin Ericsson 

On 7/19/06, Rui Pacheco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

In that case why did you declare it as available? We'll be downloading an
incomplete distribution.


Maybe by living in the paradigm of "release early, release often"
which most OSS project doesn't follow and therefore get less attention
from users and potential developers.


regards,
   Robin

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Re: RE: RE: JFly Application Framework is out

2006-07-19 Thread Rui Pacheco 

In that case why did you declare it as available? We'll be downloading an
incomplete distribution.

On 7/19/06, kiuma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Anyway I've submitted only about the 5% of what I have :)

>- --- Original Message --- -
>From: "James Carman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'Tapestry users'" ,
>
>"'kiuma'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 08:50:09
>
>Hehe.  Kill is a strong word.  How about
>"deprecate"?
>
>-Original Message-
>From: kiuma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 8:47 AM
>To: users@tapestry.apache.org
>Subject: RE: RE: JFly Application Framework is out
>
>LOL!
>
>I hope too, if not I think you'll come here to kill
>me :-D
>
>
>>- --- Original Message --- -
>>From: "James Carman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "'Tapestry users'"
>,
>>
>>"'kiuma'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 08:41:59
>>
>>With all this hype, it had better be something
>>really cool! :-)
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: kiuma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 8:40 AM
>>To: users@tapestry.apache.org;
>>users@tapestry.apache.org;
>>users@tapestry.apache.org;
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: JFly Application Framework is out
>>
>>Ok next commit will be the Hibernate things asap!
>>I'll post a news here when I'm ready.
>>
>>kiuma
>>
>>>- --- Original Message --- -
>>>From: users@tapestry.apache.org
>>>To: users@tapestry.apache.org,
>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Sent: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 08:33:33
>>>
>>>Well, it would be nice to have some Hibernate
>>stuff
>>>available in the source
>>>download if you actually claim that it's "an
>>>Open-Source set of tools that
>>>facilitate business web application development
>>>when you use Tapestry,
>>>Hivemind and Hibernate."  I downloaded the source
>
>>>code and browsed through
>>>it looking for any cool Hibernate nuggets that I
>>>might be able to use, but
>>>it was a complete waste of my time since there's
>>>absolutely nothing in there
>>>related to Hibernate.
>>>
>>>I don't need a comparator implementation that
>>>compares two objects based on
>>>one of their property values.  I can use a
>commons
>>
>>>collections transforming
>>>comparator (along with a bean transformer to
>>>transform it to its property
>>>value) for that.
>>>
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RE: RE: RE: JFly Application Framework is out

2006-07-19 Thread kiuma 
Anyway I've submitted only about the 5% of what I have :)

>- --- Original Message --- -
>From: "James Carman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'Tapestry users'" ,
>
>"'kiuma'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 08:50:09
>
>Hehe.  Kill is a strong word.  How about
>"deprecate"?
>
>-Original Message-
>From: kiuma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 8:47 AM
>To: users@tapestry.apache.org
>Subject: RE: RE: JFly Application Framework is out
>
>LOL!
>
>I hope too, if not I think you'll come here to kill
>me :-D
>
>
>>- --- Original Message --- -
>>From: "James Carman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "'Tapestry users'"
>,
>>
>>"'kiuma'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 08:41:59
>>
>>With all this hype, it had better be something
>>really cool! :-)
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: kiuma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>
>>Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 8:40 AM
>>To: users@tapestry.apache.org;
>>users@tapestry.apache.org;
>>users@tapestry.apache.org;
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: JFly Application Framework is out
>>
>>Ok next commit will be the Hibernate things asap!
>>I'll post a news here when I'm ready.
>>
>>kiuma
>>
>>>- --- Original Message --- -
>>>From: users@tapestry.apache.org
>>>To: users@tapestry.apache.org,
>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Sent: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 08:33:33
>>>
>>>Well, it would be nice to have some Hibernate
>>stuff
>>>available in the source
>>>download if you actually claim that it's "an
>>>Open-Source set of tools that
>>>facilitate business web application development
>>>when you use Tapestry,
>>>Hivemind and Hibernate."  I downloaded the source
>
>>>code and browsed through
>>>it looking for any cool Hibernate nuggets that I
>>>might be able to use, but
>>>it was a complete waste of my time since there's
>>>absolutely nothing in there
>>>related to Hibernate.
>>>
>>>I don't need a comparator implementation that
>>>compares two objects based on
>>>one of their property values.  I can use a
>commons
>>
>>>collections transforming
>>>comparator (along with a bean transformer to
>>>transform it to its property
>>>value) for that.
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
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RE: RE: JFly Application Framework is out

2006-07-19 Thread James Carman 
Hehe.  Kill is a strong word.  How about "deprecate"?

-Original Message-
From: kiuma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 8:47 AM
To: users@tapestry.apache.org
Subject: RE: RE: JFly Application Framework is out

LOL!

I hope too, if not I think you'll come here to kill me :-D


>- --- Original Message --- -
>From: "James Carman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'Tapestry users'" ,
>
>"'kiuma'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 08:41:59
>
>With all this hype, it had better be something
>really cool! :-)
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: kiuma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 8:40 AM
>To: users@tapestry.apache.org;
>users@tapestry.apache.org;
>users@tapestry.apache.org;
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: JFly Application Framework is out
>
>Ok next commit will be the Hibernate things asap!
>I'll post a news here when I'm ready.
>
>kiuma
>
>>- --- Original Message --- -
>>From: users@tapestry.apache.org
>>To: users@tapestry.apache.org,
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 08:33:33
>>
>>Well, it would be nice to have some Hibernate
>stuff
>>available in the source
>>download if you actually claim that it's "an
>>Open-Source set of tools that
>>facilitate business web application development
>>when you use Tapestry,
>>Hivemind and Hibernate."  I downloaded the source
>>code and browsed through
>>it looking for any cool Hibernate nuggets that I
>>might be able to use, but
>>it was a complete waste of my time since there's
>>absolutely nothing in there
>>related to Hibernate.
>>
>>I don't need a comparator implementation that
>>compares two objects based on
>>one of their property values.  I can use a commons
>
>>collections transforming
>>comparator (along with a bean transformer to
>>transform it to its property
>>value) for that.
>>
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RE: RE: JFly Application Framework is out

2006-07-19 Thread kiuma 
LOL!

I hope too, if not I think you'll come here to kill me :-D


>- --- Original Message --- -
>From: "James Carman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'Tapestry users'" ,
>
>"'kiuma'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 08:41:59
>
>With all this hype, it had better be something
>really cool! :-)
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: kiuma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 8:40 AM
>To: users@tapestry.apache.org;
>users@tapestry.apache.org;
>users@tapestry.apache.org;
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: JFly Application Framework is out
>
>Ok next commit will be the Hibernate things asap!
>I'll post a news here when I'm ready.
>
>kiuma
>
>>- --- Original Message --- -
>>From: users@tapestry.apache.org
>>To: users@tapestry.apache.org,
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 08:33:33
>>
>>Well, it would be nice to have some Hibernate
>stuff
>>available in the source
>>download if you actually claim that it's "an
>>Open-Source set of tools that
>>facilitate business web application development
>>when you use Tapestry,
>>Hivemind and Hibernate."  I downloaded the source
>>code and browsed through
>>it looking for any cool Hibernate nuggets that I
>>might be able to use, but
>>it was a complete waste of my time since there's
>>absolutely nothing in there
>>related to Hibernate.
>>
>>I don't need a comparator implementation that
>>compares two objects based on
>>one of their property values.  I can use a commons
>
>>collections transforming
>>comparator (along with a bean transformer to
>>transform it to its property
>>value) for that.
>>
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RE: RE: Re: JFly Application Framework is out

2006-07-19 Thread James Carman 
Well, it would be nice to have some Hibernate stuff available in the source
download if you actually claim that it's "an Open-Source set of tools that
facilitate business web application development when you use Tapestry,
Hivemind and Hibernate."  I downloaded the source code and browsed through
it looking for any cool Hibernate nuggets that I might be able to use, but
it was a complete waste of my time since there's absolutely nothing in there
related to Hibernate.

I don't need a comparator implementation that compares two objects based on
one of their property values.  I can use a commons collections transforming
comparator (along with a bean transformer to transform it to its property
value) for that.

-Original Message-
From: kiuma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 8:30 AM
To: users@tapestry.apache.org
Subject: RE: RE: Re: JFly Application Framework is out

Simply because I haven't committed all modules I have in my PC ;-P

I have modified the directory structure, so it requires me a bit of time to
modify the directory tree and document as well as I can all the classes,
and... of course to give an understandable description of the modules !

So you have to vote what do you prefer first:
A) the HiveMind enabled menu system
B) The Hibernate service
Kiuma

>- --- Original Message --- -
>From: users@tapestry.apache.org
>To: users@tapestry.apache.org,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED],
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 08:21:12
>
>Why do you even have Hibernate in the description
>of your project?  It
>doesn't use Hibernate at all.  At least your
>build.xml doesn't download any
>Hibernate library jars:
>
>
>artifact="commons-codec" version="1.3"
>group="commons-codec" />
>artifact="commons-fileupload"
>version="1.1" group="commons-fileupload" />
>artifact="commons-io" version="1.1"
>group="commons-io" />
>artifact="commons-logging"
>version="1.0.4" group="commons-logging" />
>artifact="hivemind" version="1.1.1"
>group="hivemind" />
>artifact="hivemind-lib" version="1.1.1"
>group="hivemind" />
>artifact="javassist" version="3.0"
>group="javassist" />
>version="2.6.7"
>group="ognl" />
>version="2.0.8"
>group="oro" />
>artifact="tapestry" version="4.0.2"
>group="tapestry" />
>dest="${lib.dir}/${nsutils-jar}" 
>
>src="${erinors}/${nsutils-lib}/${nsutils-version}/$
>{nsutils-jar}"
>verbose="true" usetimestamp="true" />   
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: kiuma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 8:10 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
>
>users@tapestry.apache.org;
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Re: JFly Application Framework is out
>
>Sorry from where I am it works, I'll test it more
>when I'll be back to home.
>Anyway for now you can access JFly From here 
>http://tapestry-jfly.sourceforge.net/
>
>>- --- Original Message --- -
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: users@tapestry.apache.org,
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 12:50:08
>>
>>You've probably noticed but the site doesn't seem
>>to be working.
>>I'm getting:
>>
>>File does not exist: /home/groups/w/ww/www/htdocs/
>
>>
>>On 7/19/06, kiuma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello everybody,
>>> I have the pleasure to inform you that JFly
>>Application framework is out.
>>> You can find it at http://www.jfly.org
>>>
>>> JFly is an Open-Source set of tools that
>>facilitate business web
>>> application development when you use Tapestry,
>>Hivemind and Hibernate.
>>>
>>> kiuma
>>>
>>>
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>>/home/groups/w/ww/www/htdocs/>class="gmail_quote">On 7/19/06, >class="gmail_sen

RE: RE: Re: JFly Application Framework is out

2006-07-19 Thread kiuma 
Simply because I haven't committed all modules I have in my PC ;-P

I have modified the directory structure, so it requires me a bit of time to 
modify the directory tree and document as well as I can all the classes, and... 
of course to give an understandable description of the modules !

So you have to vote what do you prefer first:
A) the HiveMind enabled menu system
B) The Hibernate service
Kiuma

>- --- Original Message --- -
>From: users@tapestry.apache.org
>To: users@tapestry.apache.org,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED],
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 08:21:12
>
>Why do you even have Hibernate in the description
>of your project?  It
>doesn't use Hibernate at all.  At least your
>build.xml doesn't download any
>Hibernate library jars:
>
>
>artifact="commons-codec" version="1.3"
>group="commons-codec" />
>artifact="commons-fileupload"
>version="1.1" group="commons-fileupload" />
>artifact="commons-io" version="1.1"
>group="commons-io" />
>artifact="commons-logging"
>version="1.0.4" group="commons-logging" />
>artifact="hivemind" version="1.1.1"
>group="hivemind" />
>artifact="hivemind-lib" version="1.1.1"
>group="hivemind" />
>artifact="javassist" version="3.0"
>group="javassist" />
>version="2.6.7"
>group="ognl" />
>version="2.0.8"
>group="oro" />
>artifact="tapestry" version="4.0.2"
>group="tapestry" />
>dest="${lib.dir}/${nsutils-jar}" 
>
>src="${erinors}/${nsutils-lib}/${nsutils-version}/$
>{nsutils-jar}"
>verbose="true" usetimestamp="true" />   
>
>
>-Original Message-
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>Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 8:10 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
>
>users@tapestry.apache.org;
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Re: JFly Application Framework is out
>
>Sorry from where I am it works, I'll test it more
>when I'll be back to home.
>Anyway for now you can access JFly From here 
>http://tapestry-jfly.sourceforge.net/
>
>>- --- Original Message --- -
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: users@tapestry.apache.org,
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 12:50:08
>>
>>You've probably noticed but the site doesn't seem
>>to be working.
>>I'm getting:
>>
>>File does not exist: /home/groups/w/ww/www/htdocs/
>
>>
>>On 7/19/06, kiuma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello everybody,
>>> I have the pleasure to inform you that JFly
>>Application framework is out.
>>> You can find it at http://www.jfly.org
>>>
>>> JFly is an Open-Source set of tools that
>>facilitate business web
>>> application development when you use Tapestry,
>>Hivemind and Hibernate.
>>>
>>> kiuma
>>>
>>>
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>>You've probably noticed but the site doesn't seem
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>not
>>exist:
>>/home/groups/w/ww/www/htdocs/>class="gmail_quote">On 7/19/06, >class="gmail_sendername">kiuma
>> <>href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">kiuma.t
>a
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>wrote:>style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
>>margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
>>Hello everybody,I have the pleasure to inform
>>you that JFly Application framework is out.You
>
>>can find it at >href="http://www.jfly.org";>http://www.jfly.org
><
>>br>JFly is an Open-Source set of tools that
>>facilitate business web application development
>>when you use Tapestry, Hivemind and Hibernate.
>>kiuma-
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RE: Re: JFly Application Framework is out

2006-07-19 Thread James Carman 
Why do you even have Hibernate in the description of your project?  It
doesn't use Hibernate at all.  At least your build.xml doesn't download any
Hibernate library jars:












   


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Subject: RE: Re: JFly Application Framework is out

Sorry from where I am it works, I'll test it more when I'll be back to home.
Anyway for now you can access JFly From here 
http://tapestry-jfly.sourceforge.net/

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>
>You've probably noticed but the site doesn't seem
>to be working.
>I'm getting:
>
>File does not exist: /home/groups/w/ww/www/htdocs/
>
>On 7/19/06, kiuma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>>
>> Hello everybody,
>> I have the pleasure to inform you that JFly
>Application framework is out.
>> You can find it at http://www.jfly.org
>>
>> JFly is an Open-Source set of tools that
>facilitate business web
>> application development when you use Tapestry,
>Hivemind and Hibernate.
>>
>> kiuma
>>
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> <href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">kiuma.ta
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>wrote:style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
>margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
>Hello everybody,I have the pleasure to inform
>you that JFly Application framework is out.You
>can find it at href="http://www.jfly.org";>http://www.jfly.org<
>br>JFly is an Open-Source set of tools that
>facilitate business web application development
>when you use Tapestry, Hivemind and Hibernate.
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RE: Re: JFly Application Framework is out

2006-07-19 Thread kiuma 
Sorry from where I am it works, I'll test it more when I'll be back to home.
Anyway for now you can access JFly From here 
http://tapestry-jfly.sourceforge.net/

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>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 12:50:08
>
>You've probably noticed but the site doesn't seem
>to be working.
>I'm getting:
>
>File does not exist: /home/groups/w/ww/www/htdocs/
>
>On 7/19/06, kiuma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>>
>> Hello everybody,
>> I have the pleasure to inform you that JFly
>Application framework is out.
>> You can find it at http://www.jfly.org
>>
>> JFly is an Open-Source set of tools that
>facilitate business web
>> application development when you use Tapestry,
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