Re: so much useless logging

2008-10-28 Thread Francois Armand

Szemere Szemere wrote:

+1 for t5.enhanced
  
For everyone who is interested in this feature and wants it in the 5.0 
finale, the most effective way is to vote on Jira for it.


The bug can be find here: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAP5-119
And the registration in issues.apache.org is opened.


I read that as category
"com.company.webapp.Page"
-->
"t5.enhanced.com.company.webapp.Page"
  

I agree with you interpretation.

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Re: so much useless logging

2008-10-24 Thread Szemere Szemere
+1 for t5.enhanced
I read that as category
"com.company.webapp.Page"
-->
"t5.enhanced.com.company.webapp.Page"

Szemere


Re: so much useless logging

2008-10-23 Thread Fernando Padilla
That's my proposal as well.  Simply add a prefix that is unequivocally 
owned by tapestry ("t5.enhanced", etc), so that everyone (no matter what 
logging system you use), can reliably and efficiently control what gets 
logged and how.






Andy Pahne wrote:



I'd prefer a prefix like "t5.enhanced." for the logging category  That 
way I'd be in full control what comes up and what doesn't.



Jonathan Barker wrote:

Let's turn this into a question.

How do we want to be able to configure Tapestry logging? 
I have found the rather verbose logging to be beneficial in figuring out

what listeners are being fired when using naming conventions rather than
explicit OnEvent configuration.  However, it has also obscured my own
logging statements so I understand your frustration.

Is it sufficient to have the Tapestry class-enhancement and event 
dispatch

logging controlled by the Tapestry SymbolConstants.PRODUCTION_MODE flag?
Should it be a separate app-wide flag?  Should it be configurable on a
class-by-class basis?  I know I would prefer to be able to toggle it 
on the

fly without a restart.

Jonathan




 

-Original Message-
From: Fernando Padilla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 13:56
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: so much useless logging

Most people use Log4j, so I don't think suggesting "Markers" is a
worthwhile suggestion.

Second, though Log4j filters are an option, I really think that's an
advanced solution that again, most users never have to deal with.  Also
it's totally wasteful of cpu, having tapestry do all of this logging,
then forcing the users to run a regexp or starts with against EVERY
SINGLE log event, no matter where they came from, to discover whether to
drop the log event or not.

let me vent for a second:

Look, these "suggestions" for solving the "problem" are complicated or
"advanced" options, that still are not the best.  The issue is still
that a low level library ( tapestry ) is hijacking my logging category
to spit out it's own debug.  Thus it's really hard for me to figure out
who's actually logging, and control that...

Yes I can do log filters, regexps, string compares, but really?  Like
you said, as soon as tapestry changes their log messages, it breaks.
And you have to constantly discover what tapestry logs and why, and make
sure that your code doesn't log anything close to that ( false positives
).  It's just overly complicated and onerous to even suggest that to
your users...


Alright, so I think I'm done venting.  Thank you for listening! :)

But the point is.. you can always come up 10 ways to accomplish
something, and the simplest is usually the best.



Tapestry should simply change their low level log points to be TRACE, or
simply change what category they log against to be clearly marked as
being logged by Tapestry, not my code.  Simple.  Clean.  Efficient.






Lutz Hühnken wrote:
   

Hi Fernando,

 

 Sorry, I might be worked up, but really, wow this is just amazing me


how no
   

one has complained about this yet.


well, this is just not true. You will find many discussions regarding
this on this mailing list.

Workarounds have been proposed. For log4j, you might try a filter

http://www.nabble.com/T5%3A-How-to-configure-T5-not-to-display-unwanted- 

  

log-td16024408.html
   

(I used that in the past, but it doesn't seem to work anymore for me,
I haven't had the time to look into that yet.)

A probably better way would be to use markers, see
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-2474

Log4j 1.2.x doesn't support them, though.

hth,

Lutz

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Re: so much useless logging

2008-10-23 Thread Andy Pahne



I'd prefer a prefix like "t5.enhanced." for the logging category  That 
way I'd be in full control what comes up and what doesn't.



Jonathan Barker wrote:

Let's turn this into a question.

How do we want to be able to configure Tapestry logging?  


I have found the rather verbose logging to be beneficial in figuring out
what listeners are being fired when using naming conventions rather than
explicit OnEvent configuration.  However, it has also obscured my own
logging statements so I understand your frustration.

Is it sufficient to have the Tapestry class-enhancement and event dispatch
logging controlled by the Tapestry SymbolConstants.PRODUCTION_MODE flag?
Should it be a separate app-wide flag?  Should it be configurable on a
class-by-class basis?  I know I would prefer to be able to toggle it on the
fly without a restart.

Jonathan




  

-Original Message-
From: Fernando Padilla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 13:56
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: so much useless logging

Most people use Log4j, so I don't think suggesting "Markers" is a
worthwhile suggestion.

Second, though Log4j filters are an option, I really think that's an
advanced solution that again, most users never have to deal with.  Also
it's totally wasteful of cpu, having tapestry do all of this logging,
then forcing the users to run a regexp or starts with against EVERY
SINGLE log event, no matter where they came from, to discover whether to
drop the log event or not.

let me vent for a second:

Look, these "suggestions" for solving the "problem" are complicated or
"advanced" options, that still are not the best.  The issue is still
that a low level library ( tapestry ) is hijacking my logging category
to spit out it's own debug.  Thus it's really hard for me to figure out
who's actually logging, and control that...

Yes I can do log filters, regexps, string compares, but really?  Like
you said, as soon as tapestry changes their log messages, it breaks.
And you have to constantly discover what tapestry logs and why, and make
sure that your code doesn't log anything close to that ( false positives
).  It's just overly complicated and onerous to even suggest that to
your users...


Alright, so I think I'm done venting.  Thank you for listening! :)

But the point is.. you can always come up 10 ways to accomplish
something, and the simplest is usually the best.



Tapestry should simply change their low level log points to be TRACE, or
simply change what category they log against to be clearly marked as
being logged by Tapestry, not my code.  Simple.  Clean.  Efficient.






Lutz Hühnken wrote:


Hi Fernando,

  

 Sorry, I might be worked up, but really, wow this is just amazing me


how no


one has complained about this yet.


well, this is just not true. You will find many discussions regarding
this on this mailing list.

Workarounds have been proposed. For log4j, you might try a filter

http://www.nabble.com/T5%3A-How-to-configure-T5-not-to-display-unwanted-
  

log-td16024408.html


(I used that in the past, but it doesn't seem to work anymore for me,
I haven't had the time to look into that yet.)

A probably better way would be to use markers, see
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-2474

Log4j 1.2.x doesn't support them, though.

hth,

Lutz

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RE: so much useless logging

2008-10-23 Thread Jonathan Barker

Let's turn this into a question.

How do we want to be able to configure Tapestry logging?  

I have found the rather verbose logging to be beneficial in figuring out
what listeners are being fired when using naming conventions rather than
explicit OnEvent configuration.  However, it has also obscured my own
logging statements so I understand your frustration.

Is it sufficient to have the Tapestry class-enhancement and event dispatch
logging controlled by the Tapestry SymbolConstants.PRODUCTION_MODE flag?
Should it be a separate app-wide flag?  Should it be configurable on a
class-by-class basis?  I know I would prefer to be able to toggle it on the
fly without a restart.

Jonathan




> -Original Message-
> From: Fernando Padilla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 13:56
> To: Tapestry users
> Subject: Re: so much useless logging
> 
> Most people use Log4j, so I don't think suggesting "Markers" is a
> worthwhile suggestion.
> 
> Second, though Log4j filters are an option, I really think that's an
> advanced solution that again, most users never have to deal with.  Also
> it's totally wasteful of cpu, having tapestry do all of this logging,
> then forcing the users to run a regexp or starts with against EVERY
> SINGLE log event, no matter where they came from, to discover whether to
> drop the log event or not.
> 
> let me vent for a second:
> 
> Look, these "suggestions" for solving the "problem" are complicated or
> "advanced" options, that still are not the best.  The issue is still
> that a low level library ( tapestry ) is hijacking my logging category
> to spit out it's own debug.  Thus it's really hard for me to figure out
> who's actually logging, and control that...
> 
> Yes I can do log filters, regexps, string compares, but really?  Like
> you said, as soon as tapestry changes their log messages, it breaks.
> And you have to constantly discover what tapestry logs and why, and make
> sure that your code doesn't log anything close to that ( false positives
> ).  It's just overly complicated and onerous to even suggest that to
> your users...
> 
> 
> Alright, so I think I'm done venting.  Thank you for listening! :)
> 
> But the point is.. you can always come up 10 ways to accomplish
> something, and the simplest is usually the best.
> 
> 
> 
> Tapestry should simply change their low level log points to be TRACE, or
> simply change what category they log against to be clearly marked as
> being logged by Tapestry, not my code.  Simple.  Clean.  Efficient.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Lutz Hühnken wrote:
> > Hi Fernando,
> >
> >>  Sorry, I might be worked up, but really, wow this is just amazing me
> how no
> >> one has complained about this yet.
> >
> > well, this is just not true. You will find many discussions regarding
> > this on this mailing list.
> >
> > Workarounds have been proposed. For log4j, you might try a filter
> >
> > http://www.nabble.com/T5%3A-How-to-configure-T5-not-to-display-unwanted-
> log-td16024408.html
> >
> > (I used that in the past, but it doesn't seem to work anymore for me,
> > I haven't had the time to look into that yet.)
> >
> > A probably better way would be to use markers, see
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-2474
> >
> > Log4j 1.2.x doesn't support them, though.
> >
> > hth,
> >
> > Lutz
> >
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Re: so much useless logging

2008-10-23 Thread Massimo Lusetti
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 7:56 PM, Fernando Padilla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Most people use Log4j, so I don't think suggesting "Markers" is a worthwhile
> suggestion.

I've switched to logback from log4j on a small project with high
concurrent utilization and besides the nice new features i've found
quite a huge speed improvements. The application is particular since
it has just two pages which are used by other application for data
crunching so it has to provide high concurrency and high speed
"answers" on that small subset of operations but logback does has
helped. The funny thing is that I've chosen to change logging
implementation just to see how it works.

Just for the records.

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Re: so much useless logging

2008-10-22 Thread Fernando Padilla
Most people use Log4j, so I don't think suggesting "Markers" is a 
worthwhile suggestion.


Second, though Log4j filters are an option, I really think that's an 
advanced solution that again, most users never have to deal with.  Also 
it's totally wasteful of cpu, having tapestry do all of this logging, 
then forcing the users to run a regexp or starts with against EVERY 
SINGLE log event, no matter where they came from, to discover whether to 
drop the log event or not.


let me vent for a second:

Look, these "suggestions" for solving the "problem" are complicated or 
"advanced" options, that still are not the best.  The issue is still 
that a low level library ( tapestry ) is hijacking my logging category 
to spit out it's own debug.  Thus it's really hard for me to figure out 
who's actually logging, and control that...


Yes I can do log filters, regexps, string compares, but really?  Like 
you said, as soon as tapestry changes their log messages, it breaks. 
And you have to constantly discover what tapestry logs and why, and make 
sure that your code doesn't log anything close to that ( false positives 
).  It's just overly complicated and onerous to even suggest that to 
your users...



Alright, so I think I'm done venting.  Thank you for listening! :)

But the point is.. you can always come up 10 ways to accomplish 
something, and the simplest is usually the best.




Tapestry should simply change their low level log points to be TRACE, or 
simply change what category they log against to be clearly marked as 
being logged by Tapestry, not my code.  Simple.  Clean.  Efficient.







Lutz Hühnken wrote:

Hi Fernando,


 Sorry, I might be worked up, but really, wow this is just amazing me how no
one has complained about this yet.


well, this is just not true. You will find many discussions regarding
this on this mailing list.

Workarounds have been proposed. For log4j, you might try a filter

http://www.nabble.com/T5%3A-How-to-configure-T5-not-to-display-unwanted-log-td16024408.html

(I used that in the past, but it doesn't seem to work anymore for me,
I haven't had the time to look into that yet.)

A probably better way would be to use markers, see
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-2474

Log4j 1.2.x doesn't support them, though.

hth,

Lutz

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Re: so much useless logging

2008-10-22 Thread Andy Pahne

Lutz Hühnken schrieb:


Workarounds have been proposed. For log4j, you might try a filter

http://www.nabble.com/T5%3A-How-to-configure-T5-not-to-display-unwanted-log-td16024408.html

(I used that in the past, but it doesn't seem to work anymore for me,
I haven't had the time to look into that yet.)



stopped working for me, too.



A probably better way would be to use markers, see
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-2474

Log4j 1.2.x doesn't support them, though.



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Re: so much useless logging

2008-10-22 Thread Lutz Hühnken
Hi Fernando,

>  Sorry, I might be worked up, but really, wow this is just amazing me how no
> one has complained about this yet.

well, this is just not true. You will find many discussions regarding
this on this mailing list.

Workarounds have been proposed. For log4j, you might try a filter

http://www.nabble.com/T5%3A-How-to-configure-T5-not-to-display-unwanted-log-td16024408.html

(I used that in the past, but it doesn't seem to work anymore for me,
I haven't had the time to look into that yet.)

A probably better way would be to use markers, see
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-2474

Log4j 1.2.x doesn't support them, though.

hth,

Lutz

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Re: so much useless logging

2008-10-20 Thread Fernando Padilla
sorry. nope.  the log that I included did not include the generated 
class code.  And I hit my Start page a few times to make sure I wasn't 
mad either.  The log I included is being spit out for every single 
request of my Start page!



Toby Hobson wrote:

I agree that this is a little annoying but it only happens when the page is
first loaded, subsequent requests will generate "cleaner" debug statements

Toby

2008/10/18 Fernando Padilla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


alright, so we just upgraded from 5.0.11 to 5.0.16-SNAPSHOT, so sorry I was
not able to complain earlier..  Please help:

but tapestry is just spewing TONS of debug, that I still don't see any easy
way to turn off.  Please help, this is just ridiculous!  First the
contribution system is broken not allowing us to override defaults, then the
debug is so superfluous that it's just so bad!


below is an example of rendering my Start page.. ONE page request. REALLY!
 Sorry, I might be worked up, but really, wow this is just amazing me how no
one has complained about this yet.

And the issue is that we want debug turned on for OUR code (in development
and production), NOT low level tapestry code that we trust.  But tapestry
uses the same category as our classes, so there is NO easy way to filter
that out using log4j.properties.  I know that people said before that we can
setup fancy filter to match and filter out some log entries.  But these many
log entries are just ridiculous.  And how am I supposed to filter against
"Invoking: "  that's just such a broad filter term.  Users of tapestry
should not be forced to jump through so many hoops!



I want:
Tapestry MUST change the categories it logs against, so that they DO NOT
match the pages ( tapestry.site.PAGECLASS )  or it SHOULD allow me to turn
off all of this logging using a config setting..  Or I will have to maintain
our own build of tapestry to fix this ourselves.. crazy.




what do you think??  is this your pet peeve too??






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Debug output for a single rendering of my Start page:

2008-10-17 16:48:37,802 [btpool0-2] DEBUG
com.protrade.fanwars.base.pages.Start - Dispatch event:
ComponentEvent[activate from (self)]
2008-10-17 16:48:37,802 [btpool0-2] DEBUG
com.protrade.fanwars.base.pages.Start - Invoking:
com.protrade.fanwars.base.pages.Start.setupRender() (at Start.java:42)
2008-10-17 16:48:37,806 [btpool0-2] DEBUG
com.protrade.fanwars.base.components.CanvasLayout - Invoking:
com.protrade.fanwars.base.components.CanvasLayout.beginRender() (at
CanvasLayout.java:19)
2008-10-17 16:48:37,808 [btpool0-2] DEBUG
com.protrade.unifiedsocial.tapestry.components.MakePageLinksAbsolute -
Invoking:
com.protrade.unifiedsocial.tapestry.components.MakePageLinksAbsolute.beginRender()
(at MakePageLinksAbsolute.java:25)
2008-10-17 16:48:37,808 [btpool0-2] DEBUG
com.protrade.facebook.base.components.layout.LayoutDocFlex - Invoking:
com.protrade.facebook.base.components.layout.LayoutDocFlex.setupRender() (at
LayoutDocFlex.java:25)
2008-10-17 16:48:37,808 [btpool0-2] DEBUG
com.protrade.facebook.base.components.layout.LayoutDocFlex - Invoking:
com.protrade.facebook.base.components.layout.LayoutDocBase.beginRender() (at
LayoutDocBase.java:47)
2008-10-17 16:48:37,808 [btpool0-2] DEBUG
com.protrade.tapestry5.base.components.layout.LayoutIslandAdLeader -
Invoking:
com.protrade.tapestry5.base.components.layout.LayoutIslandAdLeader.beginRender(org.apache.tapestry5.MarkupWriter)
(at LayoutIslandAdLeader.java:20)
2008-10-17 16:48:37,808 [btpool0-2] DEBUG
com.protrade.fanwars.base.components.ads.AdsFanwarsGamSlot - Invoking:
com.protrade.fanwars.base.components.ads.AdsFanwarsGamSlot.setupRender() (at
AdsFanwarsGamSlot.java:76)
2008-10-17 16:48:37,808 [btpool0-2] DEBUG
com.protrade.facebook.base.components.ads.AdsGamSlotIframe - Invoking:
com.protrade.facebook.base.components.ads.AdsGamSlotIframe.beginRender(org.apache.tapestry5.MarkupWriter)
(at AdsGamSlotIframe.java:34)
2008-10-17 16:48:37,809 [btpool0-2] DEBUG
com.protrade.facebook.base.components.ads.AdsGamSlotIframe - Invoking:
com.protrade.facebook.base.components.ads.AdsGamSlotIframe.afterRender(org.apache.tapestry5.MarkupWriter)
(at AdsGamSlotIframe.java:60)
2008-10-17 16:48:37,809 [btpool0-2] DEBUG
com.protrade.tapestry5.base.components.layout.LayoutIslandAdLeader -
Invoking:
com.protrade.tapestry5.base.components.layout.LayoutIslandAdLeader.afterRender(org.apache.tapestry5.MarkupWriter)
(at LayoutIslandAdLeader.java:30)
2008-10-17 16:48:37,813 [btpool0-2] DEBUG
com.protrade.fanwars.base.components.team.TeamLogo - Invoking:
com.protrade.fanwars.base.components.team.TeamLogo.setupRender() (at
TeamLogo.java:56)
2008-10-17 16:48:37,814 [btpool0-2] DEBUG
com.protrade.fanwars.base.components.team.TeamLogo - Invoking:
com.protrade.fanwars.base.components.team.TeamLogo.beginRender(org.apache.tapestry5.MarkupWriter)
(at TeamLogo.java:81)
2008-10-17 16:48:37,814 [btpool0-2] DEBUG
com.protrade.fanwars.base.components.team.TeamLogo - Invoking:
com

Re: so much useless logging

2008-10-20 Thread Neeme Praks


There is a JIRA issue about this:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAP5-119

Please vote, so we get it higher on priority list.

Fernando Padilla wrote:
alright, so we just upgraded from 5.0.11 to 5.0.16-SNAPSHOT, so sorry I 
was not able to complain earlier..  Please help:


but tapestry is just spewing TONS of debug, that I still don't see any 
easy way to turn off.  Please help, this is just ridiculous!  First the 
contribution system is broken not allowing us to override defaults, then 
the debug is so superfluous that it's just so bad!



below is an example of rendering my Start page.. ONE page request. 
REALLY!  Sorry, I might be worked up, but really, wow this is just 
amazing me how no one has complained about this yet.


And the issue is that we want debug turned on for OUR code (in 
development and production), NOT low level tapestry code that we trust. 
 But tapestry uses the same category as our classes, so there is NO easy 
way to filter that out using log4j.properties.  I know that people said 
before that we can setup fancy filter to match and filter out some log 
entries.  But these many log entries are just ridiculous.  And how am I 
supposed to filter against "Invoking: "  that's just such a broad filter 
term.  Users of tapestry should not be forced to jump through so many 
hoops!




I want:
Tapestry MUST change the categories it logs against, so that they DO NOT 
match the pages ( tapestry.site.PAGECLASS )  or it SHOULD allow me to 
turn off all of this logging using a config setting..  Or I will have to 
maintain our own build of tapestry to fix this ourselves.. crazy.





what do you think??  is this your pet peeve too??






---
Debug output for a single rendering of my Start page:

2008-10-17 16:48:37,802 [btpool0-2] DEBUG 
com.protrade.fanwars.base.pages.Start - Dispatch event: 
ComponentEvent[activate from (self)]
2008-10-17 16:48:37,802 [btpool0-2] DEBUG 
com.protrade.fanwars.base.pages.Start - Invoking: 
com.protrade.fanwars.base.pages.Start.setupRender() (at Start.java:42)
2008-10-17 16:48:37,806 [btpool0-2] DEBUG 
com.protrade.fanwars.base.components.CanvasLayout - Invoking: 
com.protrade.fanwars.base.components.CanvasLayout.beginRender() (at 
CanvasLayout.java:19)
2008-10-17 16:48:37,808 [btpool0-2] DEBUG 
com.protrade.unifiedsocial.tapestry.components.MakePageLinksAbsolute - 
Invoking: 
com.protrade.unifiedsocial.tapestry.components.MakePageLinksAbsolute.beginRender() 
(at MakePageLinksAbsolute.java:25)
2008-10-17 16:48:37,808 [btpool0-2] DEBUG 
com.protrade.facebook.base.components.layout.LayoutDocFlex - Invoking: 
com.protrade.facebook.base.components.layout.LayoutDocFlex.setupRender() 
(at LayoutDocFlex.java:25)
2008-10-17 16:48:37,808 [btpool0-2] DEBUG 
com.protrade.facebook.base.components.layout.LayoutDocFlex - Invoking: 
com.protrade.facebook.base.components.layout.LayoutDocBase.beginRender() 
(at LayoutDocBase.java:47)
2008-10-17 16:48:37,808 [btpool0-2] DEBUG 
com.protrade.tapestry5.base.components.layout.LayoutIslandAdLeader - 
Invoking: 
com.protrade.tapestry5.base.components.layout.LayoutIslandAdLeader.beginRender(org.apache.tapestry5.MarkupWriter) 
(at LayoutIslandAdLeader.java:20)
2008-10-17 16:48:37,808 [btpool0-2] DEBUG 
com.protrade.fanwars.base.components.ads.AdsFanwarsGamSlot - Invoking: 
com.protrade.fanwars.base.components.ads.AdsFanwarsGamSlot.setupRender() 
(at AdsFanwarsGamSlot.java:76)
2008-10-17 16:48:37,808 [btpool0-2] DEBUG 
com.protrade.facebook.base.components.ads.AdsGamSlotIframe - Invoking: 
com.protrade.facebook.base.components.ads.AdsGamSlotIframe.beginRender(org.apache.tapestry5.MarkupWriter) 
(at AdsGamSlotIframe.java:34)
2008-10-17 16:48:37,809 [btpool0-2] DEBUG 
com.protrade.facebook.base.components.ads.AdsGamSlotIframe - Invoking: 
com.protrade.facebook.base.components.ads.AdsGamSlotIframe.afterRender(org.apache.tapestry5.MarkupWriter) 
(at AdsGamSlotIframe.java:60)
2008-10-17 16:48:37,809 [btpool0-2] DEBUG 
com.protrade.tapestry5.base.components.layout.LayoutIslandAdLeader - 
Invoking: 
com.protrade.tapestry5.base.components.layout.LayoutIslandAdLeader.afterRender(org.apache.tapestry5.MarkupWriter) 
(at LayoutIslandAdLeader.java:30)
2008-10-17 16:48:37,813 [btpool0-2] DEBUG 
com.protrade.fanwars.base.components.team.TeamLogo - Invoking: 
com.protrade.fanwars.base.components.team.TeamLogo.setupRender() (at 
TeamLogo.java:56)
2008-10-17 16:48:37,814 [btpool0-2] DEBUG 
com.protrade.fanwars.base.components.team.TeamLogo - Invoking: 
com.protrade.fanwars.base.components.team.TeamLogo.beginRender(org.apache.tapestry5.MarkupWriter) 
(at TeamLogo.java:81)
2008-10-17 16:48:37,814 [btpool0-2] DEBUG 
com.protrade.fanwars.base.components.team.TeamLogo - Invoking: 
com.protrade.fanwars.base.components.team.TeamLogo.afterRender(org.apache.tapestry5.MarkupWriter) 
(at TeamLogo.java:88)
2008-10-17 16:48:37,814 [btpool0-2] DEBUG 
com.protrade.fanwars.base.components.nav.NavListFanwars - Invoking: 
com.protrade

Re: so much useless logging

2008-10-17 Thread Toby Hobson
I agree that this is a little annoying but it only happens when the page is
first loaded, subsequent requests will generate "cleaner" debug statements

Toby

2008/10/18 Fernando Padilla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> alright, so we just upgraded from 5.0.11 to 5.0.16-SNAPSHOT, so sorry I was
> not able to complain earlier..  Please help:
>
> but tapestry is just spewing TONS of debug, that I still don't see any easy
> way to turn off.  Please help, this is just ridiculous!  First the
> contribution system is broken not allowing us to override defaults, then the
> debug is so superfluous that it's just so bad!
>
> 
> below is an example of rendering my Start page.. ONE page request. REALLY!
>  Sorry, I might be worked up, but really, wow this is just amazing me how no
> one has complained about this yet.
>
> And the issue is that we want debug turned on for OUR code (in development
> and production), NOT low level tapestry code that we trust.  But tapestry
> uses the same category as our classes, so there is NO easy way to filter
> that out using log4j.properties.  I know that people said before that we can
> setup fancy filter to match and filter out some log entries.  But these many
> log entries are just ridiculous.  And how am I supposed to filter against
> "Invoking: "  that's just such a broad filter term.  Users of tapestry
> should not be forced to jump through so many hoops!
>
>
> 
> I want:
> Tapestry MUST change the categories it logs against, so that they DO NOT
> match the pages ( tapestry.site.PAGECLASS )  or it SHOULD allow me to turn
> off all of this logging using a config setting..  Or I will have to maintain
> our own build of tapestry to fix this ourselves.. crazy.
>
>
>
>
> what do you think??  is this your pet peeve too??
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---
> Debug output for a single rendering of my Start page:
>
> 2008-10-17 16:48:37,802 [btpool0-2] DEBUG
> com.protrade.fanwars.base.pages.Start - Dispatch event:
> ComponentEvent[activate from (self)]
> 2008-10-17 16:48:37,802 [btpool0-2] DEBUG
> com.protrade.fanwars.base.pages.Start - Invoking:
> com.protrade.fanwars.base.pages.Start.setupRender() (at Start.java:42)
> 2008-10-17 16:48:37,806 [btpool0-2] DEBUG
> com.protrade.fanwars.base.components.CanvasLayout - Invoking:
> com.protrade.fanwars.base.components.CanvasLayout.beginRender() (at
> CanvasLayout.java:19)
> 2008-10-17 16:48:37,808 [btpool0-2] DEBUG
> com.protrade.unifiedsocial.tapestry.components.MakePageLinksAbsolute -
> Invoking:
> com.protrade.unifiedsocial.tapestry.components.MakePageLinksAbsolute.beginRender()
> (at MakePageLinksAbsolute.java:25)
> 2008-10-17 16:48:37,808 [btpool0-2] DEBUG
> com.protrade.facebook.base.components.layout.LayoutDocFlex - Invoking:
> com.protrade.facebook.base.components.layout.LayoutDocFlex.setupRender() (at
> LayoutDocFlex.java:25)
> 2008-10-17 16:48:37,808 [btpool0-2] DEBUG
> com.protrade.facebook.base.components.layout.LayoutDocFlex - Invoking:
> com.protrade.facebook.base.components.layout.LayoutDocBase.beginRender() (at
> LayoutDocBase.java:47)
> 2008-10-17 16:48:37,808 [btpool0-2] DEBUG
> com.protrade.tapestry5.base.components.layout.LayoutIslandAdLeader -
> Invoking:
> com.protrade.tapestry5.base.components.layout.LayoutIslandAdLeader.beginRender(org.apache.tapestry5.MarkupWriter)
> (at LayoutIslandAdLeader.java:20)
> 2008-10-17 16:48:37,808 [btpool0-2] DEBUG
> com.protrade.fanwars.base.components.ads.AdsFanwarsGamSlot - Invoking:
> com.protrade.fanwars.base.components.ads.AdsFanwarsGamSlot.setupRender() (at
> AdsFanwarsGamSlot.java:76)
> 2008-10-17 16:48:37,808 [btpool0-2] DEBUG
> com.protrade.facebook.base.components.ads.AdsGamSlotIframe - Invoking:
> com.protrade.facebook.base.components.ads.AdsGamSlotIframe.beginRender(org.apache.tapestry5.MarkupWriter)
> (at AdsGamSlotIframe.java:34)
> 2008-10-17 16:48:37,809 [btpool0-2] DEBUG
> com.protrade.facebook.base.components.ads.AdsGamSlotIframe - Invoking:
> com.protrade.facebook.base.components.ads.AdsGamSlotIframe.afterRender(org.apache.tapestry5.MarkupWriter)
> (at AdsGamSlotIframe.java:60)
> 2008-10-17 16:48:37,809 [btpool0-2] DEBUG
> com.protrade.tapestry5.base.components.layout.LayoutIslandAdLeader -
> Invoking:
> com.protrade.tapestry5.base.components.layout.LayoutIslandAdLeader.afterRender(org.apache.tapestry5.MarkupWriter)
> (at LayoutIslandAdLeader.java:30)
> 2008-10-17 16:48:37,813 [btpool0-2] DEBUG
> com.protrade.fanwars.base.components.team.TeamLogo - Invoking:
> com.protrade.fanwars.base.components.team.TeamLogo.setupRender() (at
> TeamLogo.java:56)
> 2008-10-17 16:48:37,814 [btpool0-2] DEBUG
> com.protrade.fanwars.base.components.team.TeamLogo - Invoking:
> com.protrade.fanwars.base.components.team.TeamLogo.beginRender(org.apache.tapestry5.MarkupWriter)
> (at TeamLogo.java:81)
> 2008-10-17 16:48:37,814 [btpool0-2] DEBUG
> com.protrade.fanwars.base.components.team.TeamLogo - Invoking:
> com.protrade.fanwars.base.components.team.TeamLogo.afterRender(org.apache.tapest