Re: Poll: T4 Development Environment

2006-07-20 Thread Daniel Jue


I'm very new to Tapestry too.



Currently using: [Eclipse 3.1.2 with WTP], [Tomcat 5.5], [Tapestry 4],
[Spindle 3]
  + spindle is just for editing/syntax highlighting
  + code completion, html outlining

Tried: [Eclipse WTP 3.1.2], [Subclipse]

 - I ran into a bug where Eclipse kept building my workspace, seemingly
at random.  It could have been related to another problem, which was that
some of my files were living on a network drive.


Re: Poll: T4 Development Environment

2006-07-19 Thread Jesse Kuhnert

No it wasn't your fault. Your first posting got que'ed up in my moderate
emails list and I didn't get around to approving it until a little while
ago. Sorry for the late "approve", shouldn't checked the list before doing
it. (most people send it twice )

On 7/19/06, Anton Nikitin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Sorry for double posting - newbie thing...

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From: Antonio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 8:18 PM
To: users@tapestry.apache.org
Subject: Poll: T4 Development Environment

Hi all,

I'm new to Tapestry, doing mostly a lot of initial research atm. Really
impressed with the framework so far, and I'd like to start diving deeper.

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RE: Poll: T4 Development Environment

2006-07-19 Thread Anton Nikitin
Sorry for double posting - newbie thing...

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From: Antonio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 8:18 PM
To: users@tapestry.apache.org
Subject: Poll: T4 Development Environment

Hi all,

I'm new to Tapestry, doing mostly a lot of initial research atm. Really
impressed with the framework so far, and I'd like to start diving deeper.

...


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Re: Poll: T4 Development Environment

2006-07-19 Thread Jesse Kuhnert

I use eclipse 3.2 for IDE (not because intellij isn't better, just invested
a lot of time into eclipse and feel too time constrained to try out a new
ide yet).

For plugins, these are the set that I just can't live without and follow
every fresh eclipse install:

-) wtp
-) subclipse (using jni bindings, pure java was much slower for me than jni
on linux)
-) testng
-) checkstyle
-) jseclipse
-) maven2

I think that's it.

On 7/19/06, Antonio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi all,

I'm new to Tapestry, doing mostly a lot of initial research atm. Really
impressed with the framework so far, and I'd like to start diving deeper.

I think it would be a good discussion to see what kind of dev. setups
everybody uses out in the wild, and motivation behind why they chose one
over the other(s).

I propose this simple format:

Currently using: [IDE], [Tool1], [Tool2], [...]
+ stable
+ code completion
- commercial
etc.
Tried: [IDE-1], [Tool1-1], [Tool2-1], [...-1]
+ fast
- no documentation
etc.
Tried: [IDE-2], [Tool1-2], [Tool2-2], [...-2]
Etc.


Here's mine:

Currently using: Eclipse, WTP, Subclipse, Tomcat 5.5 (same as at
http://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/HowToSetupEclipseWtp)
+ pretty good for development and debugging: *basic* xml/html/java
tools
+ see changes right away (T4 caching off + project auto-build)
+ nice integration with servlet container (Tomcat, any other,
etc.)
+ open source
- really miss smart code completion & intentions for Java in
IntelliJ Idea
- no code completion for Tapestry-specific files, like in Spindle
- when T4 is configured as a User Library, can't use it to run;
have
to put jars into WEB-INF/lib
- WTP publishing is not instantaneous, as it has to move modified
files to a temp dir first

Tried: IntelliJ Idea, Tomcat 5.5
+ great for Java coding
- mediocre for XML and tapestry-specific files
- commercial license

Tried: Eclipse, Spindle 3, Tomcat (Tapestry 3)
+ Tap. code completion
- very unstable


Regards,
- A


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