Re: delegage or target

2013-03-26 Thread Geoff Callender
That's a great summary. Nice work.

Geoff

On 26/03/2013, at 12:15 AM, Bård Magnus Kvalheim wrote:

 Hi Ken.
 
 I think what you refer to as the target= approach is html frames and you
 can certainly do that with tapestry or any other framework.
 
 Here is my understanding of Tapestry 'best practices'.
 
 *Master layouts*
 In tapestry you can create master layouts. A master layout is a page
 template that contains header, footer sidebars etc.. and defines a special
 region to insert the specific page content. In a tapestry component this is
 specified by; t:body/
 http://tapestry.apache.org/layout-component.html
 
 
 The other typical php/jsp way of doing things is to use includes for
 header, footer sidebar - and that works, but consider having 30+ pages than
 it's a lot of work to make modifications - like moving sidebar from left to
 right hand side. Master templates is the way to go IMO.
 
 Inside your master template/layout - if you need to display different
 content at times you have a few options.
 (A layout is 'just' another component and can be as simple/advanced as
 you'd like. )
 
 *Conditional if's*
 use if statements to conditionally show the content.
 
 *Blocks*
 define blocks within layout template and have logic to display/delegate to
 what you need.
 
 *Template inheritance*
 Should not be overused, but quite useful feature.
 http://tapestry.apache.org/component-templates.html#ComponentTemplates-TemplateInheritance.
 Can for example have master templates;
 simple no sidebar,
 standard with sidebar (which inherit from the simple)
 
 *Blocks as parameters*
 define block parameters to layout component. Say you have a sidebar where
 you want to display different content depending on what page you're on then
 give it as parameter. (From the page)
 http://tapestry.apache.org/component-templates.html#ComponentTemplates-parameternamespaces
 
 *Reusable components*
 If you have pieces of markup and/or logic that is reusable, then it's easy
 and useful to make it a component with own tml / java/ + resources files.
 Think this is what you refer to as whole TML file
 
 
 I use all of these approaches - they are all good but think only you know
 when it's appropriate to use one over the others. I would definitely start
 with a layout though.
 Last time I checked the maven quickstart also included examples for blocks
 and master layout/components.
 
 cheers
 Magnus
 
 On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 2:24 AM, Ken in Nashua kcola...@live.com wrote:
 
 Well it seems there is a concept called blocks...
 
 And this construct has support for active block.
 
 This seems like it is what I am seeking hopefully.
 
 And the delegate component is the guy that operates and manipulates and
 detects?
 
 


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Re: delegage or target

2013-03-26 Thread Barry Books
I would also check out Dynamic.

http://tapestry.apache.org/current/apidocs/org/apache/tapestry5/corelib/components/Dynamic.html

It's easy enough to fetch its template from a database of other source
outside the project to provide per user/company etc customization of a
layout.

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Re: delegage or target

2013-03-25 Thread Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo
On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 23:09:50 -0300, Ken in Nashua kcola...@live.com  
wrote:


Ok... for instance I want to just pull up a tml file and start editing  
the heck out of it...


You can't do that, at least not easily.


say footer.tml

and inside my layout...

t:delegate to=footer.tml /

Is this legal ? or reasonable practice ?


No. No. Just declare blocks and use the Delegate component to render them.

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Re: delegage or target

2013-03-25 Thread Bård Magnus Kvalheim
Hi Ken.

I think what you refer to as the target= approach is html frames and you
can certainly do that with tapestry or any other framework.

Here is my understanding of Tapestry 'best practices'.

*Master layouts*
In tapestry you can create master layouts. A master layout is a page
template that contains header, footer sidebars etc.. and defines a special
region to insert the specific page content. In a tapestry component this is
specified by; t:body/
http://tapestry.apache.org/layout-component.html


The other typical php/jsp way of doing things is to use includes for
header, footer sidebar - and that works, but consider having 30+ pages than
it's a lot of work to make modifications - like moving sidebar from left to
right hand side. Master templates is the way to go IMO.

Inside your master template/layout - if you need to display different
content at times you have a few options.
(A layout is 'just' another component and can be as simple/advanced as
you'd like. )

*Conditional if's*
use if statements to conditionally show the content.

*Blocks*
define blocks within layout template and have logic to display/delegate to
what you need.

*Template inheritance*
Should not be overused, but quite useful feature.
http://tapestry.apache.org/component-templates.html#ComponentTemplates-TemplateInheritance.
Can for example have master templates;
simple no sidebar,
standard with sidebar (which inherit from the simple)

*Blocks as parameters*
define block parameters to layout component. Say you have a sidebar where
you want to display different content depending on what page you're on then
give it as parameter. (From the page)
http://tapestry.apache.org/component-templates.html#ComponentTemplates-parameternamespaces

*Reusable components*
If you have pieces of markup and/or logic that is reusable, then it's easy
and useful to make it a component with own tml / java/ + resources files.
Think this is what you refer to as whole TML file


I use all of these approaches - they are all good but think only you know
when it's appropriate to use one over the others. I would definitely start
with a layout though.
Last time I checked the maven quickstart also included examples for blocks
and master layout/components.

cheers
Magnus

On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 2:24 AM, Ken in Nashua kcola...@live.com wrote:

 Well it seems there is a concept called blocks...

 And this construct has support for active block.

 This seems like it is what I am seeking hopefully.

 And the delegate component is the guy that operates and manipulates and
 detects?




delegage or target

2013-03-24 Thread Ken in Nashua
Hi Folks,

back in my struts days, there was a target= syntax that allowed the rendering 
of specific logic to land within a specific area of a page... or a frameset?

I am not using frames... just divs and spans in a typical tapestry layout.

header
menu
nav | body
footer


Is there a tapestry component or language construct that will permit me to 
specify a whole TML file targeted to a specific layout block on a page?

I have a bunch of pages to do (footer.tml, help.tml, contact.tml, rights.tml, 
etc...) and want to target them to specific DIV id'd parts of my page.

Just looking for the best practice or general practice.

Any tips are appreciated.

Thanks
  

RE: delegage or target

2013-03-24 Thread Ken in Nashua
Well it seems there is a concept called blocks...

And this construct has support for active block.

This seems like it is what I am seeking hopefully.

And the delegate component is the guy that operates and manipulates and detects?

  

RE: delegage or target

2013-03-24 Thread Ken in Nashua
Ok... for instance I want to just pull up a tml file and start editing the heck 
out of it...

say footer.tml

and inside my layout...

t:delegate to=footer.tml /

Is this legal ? or reasonable practice ? 
I am trying not to worry about the in betweens (or at least minimize and 
simplify them)... I just want to edit my files and honk them all the layout 
modularly.