RE: Fwd: How to install tomcat 6.0.X in IBM P series box running with RHEL 5

2010-03-30 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
> From: Harry Metske [mailto:harry.met...@gmail.com]
> Subject: Re: Fwd: How to install tomcat 6.0.X in IBM P series box
> running with RHEL 5
> 
> Chuck, a bit off-topic, but since we might have to choose the next few
> months which JVM to use on Intel/Linux, I am interested in why you
> think the OpenJDK is "pretty awful" ?

Read the message again; I said OpenJDK is probably ok, and that the GNU JVM is 
pretty awful.  Search the archives for the numerous reports of any serious 
application (such as Tomcat) failing miserably on the GNU JVM, but working fine 
on a real JVM.

OpenJDK is (or at least was) pretty much the same as the Sun HotSpot JVM, but 
with some packages replaced or omitted due to licensing issues.

 - Chuck


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Re: Fwd: How to install tomcat 6.0.X in IBM P series box running with RHEL 5

2010-03-30 Thread Harry Metske
Chuck, a bit off-topic, but since we might have to choose the next few
months which JVM to use on Intel/Linux, I am interested in why you think the
OpenJDK is "pretty awful" ?

regards,
Harry

2010/3/30 Caldarale, Charles R 

> > From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com]
> > Subject: Re: Fwd: How to install tomcat 6.0.X in IBM P series box
> > running with RHEL 5
> >
> > (And you should anyway first install a reasonable Java JVM 1.6 before
> > Tomcat; usually people here do not consider the OpenJDK JVM as
> > reasonable for Tomcat).
>
> Actually, OpenJDK (which comes from what used be known as Sun) is probably
> ok; it's the GNU JVM that is pretty awful.
>
>  - Chuck
>
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RE: Fwd: How to install tomcat 6.0.X in IBM P series box running with RHEL 5

2010-03-30 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
> From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com]
> Subject: Re: Fwd: How to install tomcat 6.0.X in IBM P series box
> running with RHEL 5
> 
> (And you should anyway first install a reasonable Java JVM 1.6 before
> Tomcat; usually people here do not consider the OpenJDK JVM as
> reasonable for Tomcat).

Actually, OpenJDK (which comes from what used be known as Sun) is probably ok; 
it's the GNU JVM that is pretty awful.

 - Chuck


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Re: Fwd: How to install tomcat 6.0.X in IBM P series box running with RHEL 5

2010-03-30 Thread André Warnier

Ratnavel Sundaramurthi wrote:
Hi, 
 
How to install tomcat 6.0.X in IBM  P series box 
running with RHEL 5. 
 
I see rpms available 
only for tomacat 5.x. 
 
Environment: 
 
Machine: IBM P series 
OS:RHEL 5.0 
Java version: Java 1.6
 
Any help is appreciated. 
 

Hi.

1) If you want a "package" usable with the RedHat package management 
tools, then you are stuck with whatever versions RedHat makes available 
for your version of RHEL.

(And they are always a few versions behind the latest available Tomcat).

2) Otherwise, you can download the latest Tomcat version from the 
official Tomcat website at http://tomcat.apache.org, and install it 
following the instructions found on that same website.
(And you should anyway first install a reasonable Java JVM 1.6 before 
Tomcat; usually people here do not consider the OpenJDK JVM as 
reasonable for Tomcat).


The advantage of option (2) is that you have the latest bestest Tomcat, 
and that it will be easier for people on this forum to help you with it, 
because it installs Tomcat and Tomcat files is a known location and 
configuration.
A disadvantage of option (2) may be that your sysadmins will probably 
not support it, as it is not the "official RHEL version" which they know 
and love.
Another disadvantage, is that you will probably have to create yourself 
the system startup/stop scripts for your Tomcat server, if you intend to 
run it as a daemon.


A disadvantage of option (1), is that these packages usually put the 
Tomcat files all over the place, with millions of symlinks to tie it all 
together again.  So if you have a problem, it is more difficult for 
people here to figure out what happens.  But then of course there is 
always the RedHat hotline..



My own subjective (but practical) recommendation :

If you are knowledgeable about your OS, system startup scripts etc.., 
then use the latest version from the Tomcat website.
(Tomcat by itself is not complicated to install and run, but it is these 
surrounding system aspects that will give you work).


If not, then use the RedHat packaged version if you can live with it, 
because it will install out of the box.




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Fwd: How to install tomcat 6.0.X in IBM P series box running with RHEL 5

2010-03-30 Thread Ratnavel Sundaramurthi
Hi, 
 
How to install tomcat 6.0.X in IBM  P series box 
running with RHEL 5. 
 
I see rpms available 
only for tomacat 5.x. 
 
Environment: 
 
Machine: IBM P series 
OS:RHEL 5.0 
Java version: Java 1.6
 
Any help is appreciated. 
 
Thanks, 

Ratnavel.