RE: Need help on Tomcat 9.0.x release

2017-09-21 Thread Inderjeet Banwait
Hi Violeta, Mark,

Thank you for clarifying.

Regards,
Inderjeet

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From: Violeta Georgieva [mailto:violet...@apache.org] 
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 7:26 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Need help on Tomcat 9.0.x release

2017-09-21 16:17 GMT+03:00 Rémy Maucherat :
>
> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 3:12 PM, Mark Thomas  wrote:
>
> > On 21/09/17 10:35, Inderjeet Banwait wrote:
> > > Hi Mark,
> > >
> > > Java EE 8 is already released .Can we expect a stable release by 
> > > the
end
> > of September 2017?
> >
> > Servlet 4.0 was released on 5 September 2017.
> > Java EE 8 platform was released on 18 September 2017.
> >
> > It would have been helpful if Oracle had mentioned either of those 
> > releases to the Servlet EG members.
> >
> > I've taken a very quick look and the relevant specifications for 
> > Tomcat
> > are:
> > - Java 8(complete)
> > - Servlet 4.0   (should be complete but need to check for last minute
> >  changes)
> > - JSP 2.3   (no change from Java EE 7 / Tomcat 8.x)
> > - EL 3.0(no change from Java EE 7 / Tomcat 8.x)
> > - WebSocket 1.1 (no change from Tomcat 8.x)
> > - JASPIC 1.1(no change from Java EE 7 / Tomcat 8.x)
> >
> >
> > The Tomcat team is a little busy elsewhere at the moment. A stable 
> > Tomcat 9 release in September is highly unlikely.
> >
> > Releases are typically on a monthly basis with the process starting 
> > at the beginning of the month. The September releases are complete 
> > for 9.0.x and 8.5.x and would have been announced if it wasn't for 
> > CVE-2017-12617.
> >
>
> Since we'll revote, we could include the option to vote the new 9.0 
> build as beta. Since it's very close to 8.5, I don't see any problem with 
> that.


+1

Regards, Violeta

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Re: Need help on Tomcat 9.0.x release

2017-09-21 Thread Violeta Georgieva
2017-09-21 16:17 GMT+03:00 Rémy Maucherat :
>
> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 3:12 PM, Mark Thomas  wrote:
>
> > On 21/09/17 10:35, Inderjeet Banwait wrote:
> > > Hi Mark,
> > >
> > > Java EE 8 is already released .Can we expect a stable release by the
end
> > of September 2017?
> >
> > Servlet 4.0 was released on 5 September 2017.
> > Java EE 8 platform was released on 18 September 2017.
> >
> > It would have been helpful if Oracle had mentioned either of those
> > releases to the Servlet EG members.
> >
> > I've taken a very quick look and the relevant specifications for Tomcat
> > are:
> > - Java 8(complete)
> > - Servlet 4.0   (should be complete but need to check for last minute
> >  changes)
> > - JSP 2.3   (no change from Java EE 7 / Tomcat 8.x)
> > - EL 3.0(no change from Java EE 7 / Tomcat 8.x)
> > - WebSocket 1.1 (no change from Tomcat 8.x)
> > - JASPIC 1.1(no change from Java EE 7 / Tomcat 8.x)
> >
> >
> > The Tomcat team is a little busy elsewhere at the moment. A stable
> > Tomcat 9 release in September is highly unlikely.
> >
> > Releases are typically on a monthly basis with the process starting at
> > the beginning of the month. The September releases are complete for
> > 9.0.x and 8.5.x and would have been announced if it wasn't for
> > CVE-2017-12617.
> >
>
> Since we'll revote, we could include the option to vote the new 9.0 build
> as beta. Since it's very close to 8.5, I don't see any problem with that.


+1

Regards, Violeta


Re: Need help on Tomcat 9.0.x release

2017-09-21 Thread Rémy Maucherat
On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 3:12 PM, Mark Thomas  wrote:

> On 21/09/17 10:35, Inderjeet Banwait wrote:
> > Hi Mark,
> >
> > Java EE 8 is already released .Can we expect a stable release by the end
> of September 2017?
>
> Servlet 4.0 was released on 5 September 2017.
> Java EE 8 platform was released on 18 September 2017.
>
> It would have been helpful if Oracle had mentioned either of those
> releases to the Servlet EG members.
>
> I've taken a very quick look and the relevant specifications for Tomcat
> are:
> - Java 8(complete)
> - Servlet 4.0   (should be complete but need to check for last minute
>  changes)
> - JSP 2.3   (no change from Java EE 7 / Tomcat 8.x)
> - EL 3.0(no change from Java EE 7 / Tomcat 8.x)
> - WebSocket 1.1 (no change from Tomcat 8.x)
> - JASPIC 1.1(no change from Java EE 7 / Tomcat 8.x)
>
>
> The Tomcat team is a little busy elsewhere at the moment. A stable
> Tomcat 9 release in September is highly unlikely.
>
> Releases are typically on a monthly basis with the process starting at
> the beginning of the month. The September releases are complete for
> 9.0.x and 8.5.x and would have been announced if it wasn't for
> CVE-2017-12617.
>

Since we'll revote, we could include the option to vote the new 9.0 build
as beta. Since it's very close to 8.5, I don't see any problem with that.

Rémy


>
> Assuming that there have been no / trivial changes to the Servlet API
> since the EG last saw it, I'd expect the October release to be either
> beta or stable depending on how the community votes. If it is beta, the
> community will consider whether to change that to stable for each
> subsequent release until we have a first stable release. My personal
> view is that we could get to a stable release pretty quickly. But I am
> only one voice and this is a decision that the community makes.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Inderjeet
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mark Thomas [mailto:ma...@apache.org]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 1:58 PM
> > To: Tomcat Users List
> > Subject: Re: Need help on Tomcat 9.0.x release
> >
> > On 21/09/17 08:57, Inderjeet Banwait wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> We are Oracle Knowledge team from Oracle and want to upgrade our
> product to support Tomcat 9.0.x but as per the version pages from Tomcat
> wiki it is not stable.
> >>
> >> We want to know when we can have a stable Tomcat 9.0.x release?
> >
> > Shortly after Oracle release Java EE 8.
> >
> > Mark
> >
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Re: Need help on Tomcat 9.0.x release

2017-09-21 Thread Mark Thomas
On 21/09/17 10:35, Inderjeet Banwait wrote:
> Hi Mark,
> 
> Java EE 8 is already released .Can we expect a stable release by the end of 
> September 2017?

Servlet 4.0 was released on 5 September 2017.
Java EE 8 platform was released on 18 September 2017.

It would have been helpful if Oracle had mentioned either of those
releases to the Servlet EG members.

I've taken a very quick look and the relevant specifications for Tomcat are:
- Java 8(complete)
- Servlet 4.0   (should be complete but need to check for last minute
 changes)
- JSP 2.3   (no change from Java EE 7 / Tomcat 8.x)
- EL 3.0(no change from Java EE 7 / Tomcat 8.x)
- WebSocket 1.1 (no change from Tomcat 8.x)
- JASPIC 1.1(no change from Java EE 7 / Tomcat 8.x)


The Tomcat team is a little busy elsewhere at the moment. A stable
Tomcat 9 release in September is highly unlikely.

Releases are typically on a monthly basis with the process starting at
the beginning of the month. The September releases are complete for
9.0.x and 8.5.x and would have been announced if it wasn't for
CVE-2017-12617.

Assuming that there have been no / trivial changes to the Servlet API
since the EG last saw it, I'd expect the October release to be either
beta or stable depending on how the community votes. If it is beta, the
community will consider whether to change that to stable for each
subsequent release until we have a first stable release. My personal
view is that we could get to a stable release pretty quickly. But I am
only one voice and this is a decision that the community makes.

Mark



> 
> Thanks,
> Inderjeet 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Thomas [mailto:ma...@apache.org] 
> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 1:58 PM
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: Re: Need help on Tomcat 9.0.x release
> 
> On 21/09/17 08:57, Inderjeet Banwait wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>  
>>
>> We are Oracle Knowledge team from Oracle and want to upgrade our product to 
>> support Tomcat 9.0.x but as per the version pages from Tomcat wiki it is not 
>> stable.
>>
>> We want to know when we can have a stable Tomcat 9.0.x release?
> 
> Shortly after Oracle release Java EE 8.
> 
> Mark
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RE: Need help on Tomcat 9.0.x release

2017-09-21 Thread Inderjeet Banwait
Hi Mark,

Java EE 8 is already released .Can we expect a stable release by the end of 
September 2017?

Thanks,
Inderjeet 

-Original Message-
From: Mark Thomas [mailto:ma...@apache.org] 
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 1:58 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Need help on Tomcat 9.0.x release

On 21/09/17 08:57, Inderjeet Banwait wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>  
> 
> We are Oracle Knowledge team from Oracle and want to upgrade our product to 
> support Tomcat 9.0.x but as per the version pages from Tomcat wiki it is not 
> stable.
> 
> We want to know when we can have a stable Tomcat 9.0.x release?

Shortly after Oracle release Java EE 8.

Mark

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Re: Need help on Tomcat 9.0.x release

2017-09-21 Thread Mark Thomas
On 21/09/17 08:57, Inderjeet Banwait wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>  
> 
> We are Oracle Knowledge team from Oracle and want to upgrade our product to 
> support Tomcat 9.0.x but as per the version pages from Tomcat wiki it is not 
> stable.
> 
> We want to know when we can have a stable Tomcat 9.0.x release?

Shortly after Oracle release Java EE 8.

Mark

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Need help on Tomcat 9.0.x release

2017-09-21 Thread Inderjeet Banwait
Hi,

 

We are Oracle Knowledge team from Oracle and want to upgrade our product to 
support Tomcat 9.0.x but as per the version pages from Tomcat wiki it is not 
stable.

We want to know when we can have a stable Tomcat 9.0.x release?

 

Thanks,

Inderjeet