Re: Apache Tom Cat in a VM as VMWARE or Red Hat Virtualization

2009-02-19 Thread Jason Viloria
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:38 PM, János Löbb  wrote:

>
> On Feb 18, 2009, at 3:24 PM, Alan Chaney wrote:
>
>
>>
>> I agree with Jorge - I run several Tomcats under VMware for both
>> production and development.
>>
>> However it is worth noting that if you use the appropriate vmware tools
>> for your installation (vmware-guestd etc.) you get a significant performance
>> boost on network accesses which may well be important for tomcat. (See
>> vmxnet) YMMV.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Alan Chaney
>>
>
I admin a fairly large deployment of tomcats on vmware server and now have
started to move to xen as well and the only thing i can say is that if your
application is IO intensive then you might notice slower performance
vmware/xen unless you use block devices.

For anything else, if you provision your VM with the same specs as a
physical machine that you will compare it to then you should hardly notice
any difference at all.

/Jason


Re: Apache Tom Cat in a VM as VMWARE or Red Hat Virtualization

2009-02-18 Thread János Löbb


On Feb 18, 2009, at 3:24 PM, Alan Chaney wrote:




I agree with Jorge - I run several Tomcats under VMware for both  
production and development.


However it is worth noting that if you use the appropriate vmware  
tools for your installation (vmware-guestd etc.) you get a  
significant performance boost on network accesses which may well be  
important for tomcat. (See vmxnet) YMMV.


Regards

Alan Chaney




Jorge Medina wrote:
There are no issues on running Tomcat in a VM. Tomcat is unaware of  
where it is running.
Performance depends on the host running your VM. If you compare a  
VM running application A on host H compared to application A  
running directly on host H, you will notice that running on the  
real server is faster. This is true for any application, not just  
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Subject: Apache Tom Cat in a VM as VMWARE or Red Hat Virtualization
Hi,
Does anyone use Apache Tom Cat in a VM as VMWARE or Red Hat  
Virtualization?

i apreciate to know if you have issues and a tips to go on.
Other things to know, Performance comparative with a real server?  
as the same? better? What the parameters you perceive as better  
than other environment and what cause as you move Tom Cat to VM.

Thanks in advance,
Acacio Costa
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I would add only that You - OP - might want to have a "Bridged"  
network connection in the VM.  I have VmWare Fusion on my Mac and as  
soon as I bridged it things got much better, network wise.


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RE: Apache Tom Cat in a VM as VMWARE or Red Hat Virtualization

2009-02-18 Thread Anthony J. Biacco
Agreed, I run 2 LBed tomcats in seperate vmware machines for our dev environ. 
with no noticeable problems. Depends on the app though. For instance, my mysql 
cluster in vmware sucks when you do just about anything in the vm machines, 
because it's so sensitive to latency.

-Tony

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-Original Message-
From: Alan Chaney 
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Subject: Re: Apache Tom Cat in a VM as VMWARE or Red Hat Virtualization



I agree with Jorge - I run several Tomcats under VMware for both 
production and development.

However it is worth noting that if you use the appropriate vmware tools 
for your installation (vmware-guestd etc.) you get a significant 
performance boost on network accesses which may well be important for 
tomcat. (See vmxnet) YMMV.

Regards

Alan Chaney




Jorge Medina wrote:
> There are no issues on running Tomcat in a VM. Tomcat is unaware of where it 
> is running.
> 
> Performance depends on the host running your VM. If you compare a VM running 
> application A on host H compared to application A running directly on host H, 
> you will notice that running on the real server is faster. This is true for 
> any application, not just Tomcat. 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: acacio costa [mailto:acaciofco...@yahoo.com.br] 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 2:33 PM
> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> Subject: Apache Tom Cat in a VM as VMWARE or Red Hat Virtualization
> 
> Hi,
>  
> Does anyone use Apache Tom Cat in a VM as VMWARE or Red Hat Virtualization?
>  
> i apreciate to know if you have issues and a tips to go on.
>  
> Other things to know, Performance comparative with a real server? as the 
> same? better? 
> What the parameters you perceive as better than other environment and what 
> cause as you move Tom Cat to VM.
>  
> Thanks in advance,
>  
> Acacio Costa
> 
> 
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Re: Apache Tom Cat in a VM as VMWARE or Red Hat Virtualization

2009-02-18 Thread Alan Chaney



I agree with Jorge - I run several Tomcats under VMware for both 
production and development.


However it is worth noting that if you use the appropriate vmware tools 
for your installation (vmware-guestd etc.) you get a significant 
performance boost on network accesses which may well be important for 
tomcat. (See vmxnet) YMMV.


Regards

Alan Chaney




Jorge Medina wrote:

There are no issues on running Tomcat in a VM. Tomcat is unaware of where it is 
running.

Performance depends on the host running your VM. If you compare a VM running application A on host H compared to application A running directly on host H, you will notice that running on the real server is faster. This is true for any application, not just Tomcat. 




-Original Message-
From: acacio costa [mailto:acaciofco...@yahoo.com.br] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 2:33 PM

To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: Apache Tom Cat in a VM as VMWARE or Red Hat Virtualization

Hi,
 
Does anyone use Apache Tom Cat in a VM as VMWARE or Red Hat Virtualization?
 
i apreciate to know if you have issues and a tips to go on.
 
Other things to know, Performance comparative with a real server? as the same? better? 
What the parameters you perceive as better than other environment and what cause as you move Tom Cat to VM.
 
Thanks in advance,
 
Acacio Costa



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RE: Apache Tom Cat in a VM as VMWARE or Red Hat Virtualization

2009-02-18 Thread Jorge Medina

There are no issues on running Tomcat in a VM. Tomcat is unaware of where it is 
running.

Performance depends on the host running your VM. If you compare a VM running 
application A on host H compared to application A running directly on host H, 
you will notice that running on the real server is faster. This is true for any 
application, not just Tomcat. 



-Original Message-
From: acacio costa [mailto:acaciofco...@yahoo.com.br] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 2:33 PM
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: Apache Tom Cat in a VM as VMWARE or Red Hat Virtualization

Hi,
 
Does anyone use Apache Tom Cat in a VM as VMWARE or Red Hat Virtualization?
 
i apreciate to know if you have issues and a tips to go on.
 
Other things to know, Performance comparative with a real server? as the same? 
better? 
What the parameters you perceive as better than other environment and what 
cause as you move Tom Cat to VM.
 
Thanks in advance,
 
Acacio Costa


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Re: Apache Tom Cat in a VM as VMWARE or Red Hat Virtualization

2009-02-18 Thread Hassan Schroeder
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 11:32 AM, acacio costa
 wrote:

> Does anyone use Apache Tom Cat in a VM as VMWARE or Red Hat Virtualization?

FYI, it's "Tomcat".

> i apreciate to know if you have issues and a tips to go on.

I've run Tomcat under VMware for testing purposes. No issues, it's
no different than running it on a different host.

FWIW,
-- 
Hassan Schroeder  hassan.schroe...@gmail.com

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