Re: Tomcat building problems: Apache Tomcat 5.5 Servelet/JSP container

2012-07-13 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Chuck,

On 7/12/12 6:49 PM, Caldarale, Charles R wrote:
 tar.gz (pgp, md5)

Should be labelled competent software engineers should download this
one.

;)

I kid: I feel bad for anyone who is forced to run any Microsoft
Windows-based server, though.

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Re: Tomcat building problems: Apache Tomcat 5.5 Servelet/JSP container

2012-07-12 Thread Pid
On 11/07/2012 22:26, Wei, Mingzhen wrote:
 Konstantin, 
 
 I followed the RUNNING.TXT after installing the binary release of Tomcat 5.5. 
 But I cannot find the catalina.bat and catalina.sh for more environmental 
 variables to set. 
 
 Why tomcat is such a pain for installation? 

It's not.  You're making it harder.

Seriously, just download the actual binaries:

 http://tomcat.apache.org/download-70.cgi
 http://tomcat.apache.org/download-60.cgi
 http://tomcat.apache.org/download-55.cgi

Those are for Tomcat 7.0, 6.0 and 5.5.


p


 Thanks for your help. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Konstantin Kolinko [mailto:knst.koli...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 10:57 AM
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 Subject: Re: Tomcat building problems: Apache Tomcat 5.5 Servelet/JSP 
 container
 
 2012/7/10 Wei, Mingzhen w...@mst.edu:
 Konstantin Kolinko,

 Could you tell me the point in more detail? I am new with Tomcat and need it 
 badly to be able to run another application.

 Do you mean I need to try the combination of ant5.5 download + Ant 1.8.4 and 
 JDK 1.4.2_19?
 
 1. Why are you trying to build it from source?
 Why the existing binary releases are not good enough for you?
 
 2. Have you read the BUILDING.txt file?
 
 
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Re: Tomcat building problems: Apache Tomcat 5.5 Servelet/JSP container

2012-07-12 Thread André Warnier

Pid wrote:

On 11/07/2012 22:26, Wei, Mingzhen wrote:
Konstantin, 

I followed the RUNNING.TXT after installing the binary release of Tomcat 5.5. But I cannot find the catalina.bat and catalina.sh for more environmental variables to set. 

Why tomcat is such a pain for installation? 


It's not.  You're making it harder.

Seriously, just download the actual binaries:

 http://tomcat.apache.org/download-70.cgi
 http://tomcat.apache.org/download-60.cgi
 http://tomcat.apache.org/download-55.cgi

Those are for Tomcat 7.0, 6.0 and 5.5.


My quarter :
Yes, but I believe that the OP's confusion is due (again) to the fact that for Windows, 
there are two possibilities (the zip and the Service installer), and that the Service 
installer version does not contain all the same files as the zip version.


Considering the number of times this has come up on the list, I do not understand why the 
people who make the Service installer don't just add the missing files in (tomcat)/bin and 
bring this matter to rest once and for all.


Of course, then we'd still have to explain that the Service, once installed, does not use 
the .bat files when running as a service.



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RE: Tomcat building problems: Apache Tomcat 5.5 Servelet/JSP container

2012-07-12 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
 From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com] 
 Subject: Re: Tomcat building problems: Apache Tomcat 5.5 Servelet/JSP 
 container

 Considering the number of times this has come up on the list, I do not 
 understand why the people who make the Service installer don't just add
 the missing files in (tomcat)/bin and bring this matter to rest once and
 for all.

 Of course, then we'd still have to explain that the Service, once installed,
 does not use the .bat files when running as a service.

Possibly exactly because of that - the service users will be wondering why 
their highly inappropriate muckings about with startup.bat and catalina.bat 
aren't effective.  I think it would be better if the links on the download page 
looked something like this:

zip (pgp, md5) - runs only via scripts on Windows
tar.gz (pgp, md5)
32-bit Windows zip (pgp, md5) - runs via scripts or as a service
64-bit Windows zip (pgp, md5) - runs via scripts or as a service
32-bit/64-bit Windows Service Installer (pgp, md5) - runs only as a service

 - Chuck


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RE: Tomcat building problems: Apache Tomcat 5.5 Servelet/JSP container

2012-07-11 Thread Wei, Mingzhen
Konstantin, 

I followed the RUNNING.TXT after installing the binary release of Tomcat 5.5. 
But I cannot find the catalina.bat and catalina.sh for more environmental 
variables to set. 

Why tomcat is such a pain for installation? 

Thanks for your help. 

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From: Konstantin Kolinko [mailto:knst.koli...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 10:57 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Tomcat building problems: Apache Tomcat 5.5 Servelet/JSP container

2012/7/10 Wei, Mingzhen w...@mst.edu:
 Konstantin Kolinko,

 Could you tell me the point in more detail? I am new with Tomcat and need it 
 badly to be able to run another application.

 Do you mean I need to try the combination of ant5.5 download + Ant 1.8.4 and 
 JDK 1.4.2_19?

1. Why are you trying to build it from source?
Why the existing binary releases are not good enough for you?

2. Have you read the BUILDING.txt file?


Best regards,
Konstantin Kolinko

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RE: Tomcat building problems: Apache Tomcat 5.5 Servelet/JSP container

2012-07-10 Thread Wei, Mingzhen
Konstantin Kolinko,

Could you tell me the point in more detail? I am new with Tomcat and need it 
badly to be able to run another application. 

Do you mean I need to try the combination of ant5.5 download + Ant 1.8.4 and 
JDK 1.4.2_19?

Thanks. 

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From: Konstantin Kolinko [mailto:knst.koli...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 2:56 PM
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Subject: Re: Tomcat building problems: Apache Tomcat 5.5 Servelet/JSP container

2012/7/6 Christopher Schultz ch...@christopherschultz.net:

 On 7/6/12 12:54 PM, Konstantin Kolinko wrote:
 2012/7/6 Wei, Mingzhen w...@mst.edu:
 I was trying to build Apache Tomcat 5.5 Servelet for another 
 application. I followed the steps from the link:
 http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/building.html. I have done 
 the following:

 1.   Installed JDK1.6

 2.   Download and installed Apache Ant 1.8.4

 3.   Download Tomcat 5.5 source package in zip file

 4.   Set and updated the environment parameters for
 JAVA_HOME, PATH, ANT_HOME

 I cannot run the following step ant download correctly. It 
 complains the includeantruntime setup, and alerting me with errors 
 for classes as BasicDataSource, DelegatingStatement, 
 DelegatingPreparedStatement, and many more. The errors say that 
 those classes as not abstract and do not override the abstract 
 methods in other sources.

 1. You need JDK 1.4 to build Tomcat 5.5. 2. The version of Ant 
 targeted by the build script is 1.6.2.

 With only a little bit of digging, I couldn't find an earliest-version 
 of Ant that supports the includeAntRuntime attribute for javac.
 But, I suspect that 1.6.2 *does* support it, so there doesn't seem to 
 be a reason not to specify a value for it in the build file. That will 
 allow Tomcat 5.5 to be built with later ant versions (but, of course, 
 using the proper JDK version).

It is an interesting note. Anyway,
1. ant download deploy in 5.5 builds correctly with Ant 1.8.4 and JDK 
1.4.2_19.  So I do not see what the fix will bring besides a silenced warning.

2. Anyone may propose a patch for 5.5 (either in STATUS or in bugzilla).

Best regards,
Konstantin Kolinko

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Re: Tomcat building problems: Apache Tomcat 5.5 Servelet/JSP container

2012-07-10 Thread Konstantin Kolinko
2012/7/10 Wei, Mingzhen w...@mst.edu:
 Konstantin Kolinko,

 Could you tell me the point in more detail? I am new with Tomcat and need it 
 badly to be able to run another application.

 Do you mean I need to try the combination of ant5.5 download + Ant 1.8.4 and 
 JDK 1.4.2_19?

1. Why are you trying to build it from source?
Why the existing binary releases are not good enough for you?

2. Have you read the BUILDING.txt file?


Best regards,
Konstantin Kolinko

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Re: Tomcat building problems: Apache Tomcat 5.5 Servelet/JSP container

2012-07-06 Thread Konstantin Kolinko
2012/7/6 Wei, Mingzhen w...@mst.edu:
 I was trying to build Apache Tomcat 5.5 Servelet for another application. I 
 followed the steps from the link: 
 http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/building.html.
 I have done the following:

 1.   Installed JDK1.6

 2.   Download and installed Apache Ant 1.8.4

 3.   Download Tomcat 5.5 source package in zip file

 4.   Set and updated the environment parameters for JAVA_HOME, PATH, 
 ANT_HOME

 I cannot run the following step ant download correctly. It complains the 
 includeantruntime setup, and alerting me with errors for classes as 
 BasicDataSource, DelegatingStatement, DelegatingPreparedStatement, and many 
 more. The errors say that those classes as not abstract and do not override 
 the abstract methods in other sources.

1. You need JDK 1.4 to build Tomcat 5.5.
2. The version of Ant targeted by the build script is 1.6.2.

One of the reasons why you cannot build it with Java 6, is that the
version of Apache Commons DBCP used in it has to run on Java 1.4 and
cannot be built with Java 6 because of java.sql API changes.


See also BUILDING.txt in the source distributive or in svn repository.
It is more authoritative than building.html.

Best regards,
Konstantin Kolinko

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Re: Tomcat building problems: Apache Tomcat 5.5 Servelet/JSP container

2012-07-06 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Konstantin,

On 7/6/12 12:54 PM, Konstantin Kolinko wrote:
 2012/7/6 Wei, Mingzhen w...@mst.edu:
 I was trying to build Apache Tomcat 5.5 Servelet for another
 application. I followed the steps from the link:
 http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/building.html. I have
 done the following:
 
 1.   Installed JDK1.6
 
 2.   Download and installed Apache Ant 1.8.4
 
 3.   Download Tomcat 5.5 source package in zip file
 
 4.   Set and updated the environment parameters for
 JAVA_HOME, PATH, ANT_HOME
 
 I cannot run the following step ant download correctly. It
 complains the includeantruntime setup, and alerting me with
 errors for classes as BasicDataSource, DelegatingStatement,
 DelegatingPreparedStatement, and many more. The errors say that
 those classes as not abstract and do not override the abstract
 methods in other sources.
 
 1. You need JDK 1.4 to build Tomcat 5.5. 2. The version of Ant
 targeted by the build script is 1.6.2.

With only a little bit of digging, I couldn't find an earliest-version
of Ant that supports the includeAntRuntime attribute for javac.
But, I suspect that 1.6.2 *does* support it, so there doesn't seem to
be a reason not to specify a value for it in the build file. That will
allow Tomcat 5.5 to be built with later ant versions (but, of course,
using the proper JDK version).

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Re: Tomcat building problems: Apache Tomcat 5.5 Servelet/JSP container

2012-07-06 Thread Konstantin Kolinko
2012/7/6 Christopher Schultz ch...@christopherschultz.net:

 On 7/6/12 12:54 PM, Konstantin Kolinko wrote:
 2012/7/6 Wei, Mingzhen w...@mst.edu:
 I was trying to build Apache Tomcat 5.5 Servelet for another
 application. I followed the steps from the link:
 http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/building.html. I have
 done the following:

 1.   Installed JDK1.6

 2.   Download and installed Apache Ant 1.8.4

 3.   Download Tomcat 5.5 source package in zip file

 4.   Set and updated the environment parameters for
 JAVA_HOME, PATH, ANT_HOME

 I cannot run the following step ant download correctly. It
 complains the includeantruntime setup, and alerting me with
 errors for classes as BasicDataSource, DelegatingStatement,
 DelegatingPreparedStatement, and many more. The errors say that
 those classes as not abstract and do not override the abstract
 methods in other sources.

 1. You need JDK 1.4 to build Tomcat 5.5. 2. The version of Ant
 targeted by the build script is 1.6.2.

 With only a little bit of digging, I couldn't find an earliest-version
 of Ant that supports the includeAntRuntime attribute for javac.
 But, I suspect that 1.6.2 *does* support it, so there doesn't seem to
 be a reason not to specify a value for it in the build file. That will
 allow Tomcat 5.5 to be built with later ant versions (but, of course,
 using the proper JDK version).

It is an interesting note. Anyway,
1. ant download deploy in 5.5 builds correctly with Ant 1.8.4 and
JDK 1.4.2_19.  So I do not see what the fix will bring besides a
silenced warning.

2. Anyone may propose a patch for 5.5 (either in STATUS or in bugzilla).

Best regards,
Konstantin Kolinko

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