Re: "exception-message" header reveals path to document root in 404 response.

2014-01-11 Thread Howard W. Smith, Jr.
On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Caldarale, Charles R <
chuck.caldar...@unisys.com> wrote:

> > From: Howard W. Smith, Jr. [mailto:smithh032...@gmail.com]
> > Subject: Re: "exception-message" header reveals path to document root in
> 404 response.
>
> > Wow, when I saw this last night, I shook my head and said to myself,
>
> > Server: Apache-Coyote/1.1
>
> > this may be one of the reasons why my server/web-app are subject to
> > repeat-offender attacks from certain/few IP addresses in China/Vietnam.
>
> For the truly paranoid (to quote from the docs), look at the server
> attribute of the  element:
> http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/config/http.html
>

+1 and LOL.

server

Overrides the Server header for the http response. If set, the value for
this attribute overrides the Tomcat default and any Server header set by a
web application. If not set, any value specified by the application is
used. If the application does not specify a value then Apache-Coyote/1.1 is
used. Unless you are paranoid, you won't need this feature.

Thanks Chuck for the response and for quoting the user guide. I have not
set 'server' on the Connector and still have no need of setting the
'server' attribute. Nice to know that that is available. :)


Re: "exception-message" header reveals path to document root in 404 response.

2014-01-11 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Chuck,

On 1/11/14, 9:01 AM, Caldarale, Charles R wrote:
>> From: Howard W. Smith, Jr. [mailto:smithh032...@gmail.com] 
>> Subject: Re: "exception-message" header reveals path to document
>> root in 404 response.
> 
>> Wow, when I saw this last night, I shook my head and said to
>> myself,
> 
>> Server: Apache-Coyote/1.1
> 
>> this may be one of the reasons why my server/web-app are subject
>> to repeat-offender attacks from certain/few IP addresses in
>> China/Vietnam.
> 
> For the truly paranoid (to quote from the docs), look at the server
> attribute of the  element: 
> http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/config/http.html

Or just not worry about it because Tomcat has reported
Apache-Coyote/1.1 since ... pretty much forever. That server string
doesn't give any information other than the fact that you are likely
running Tomcat (I think JBoss, Weblogic, etc. use that string too) and
almost definitely using a Java servlet container.

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Re: "exception-message" header reveals path to document root in 404 response.

2014-01-11 Thread Christopher Schultz
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August,

On 1/10/14, 7:48 PM, August Kleimo wrote:
> Hi All,  Thanks for all your replies.  Turns out it was in fact
> Railo.  I searched the Railo repo on GitHub and found a reference
> to that header.  I was able to overwrite it with a blank string
> using this line of code.
> 
>  getPageContext().getResponse().setHeader("exception-message","")>

There's a better option for you that will be less fragile: write a
Filter that wraps your response with a HttpServletResponse which
ignores all attempts to set the "exception-message" header.

This is better than your approach because it will prevent the header
from ever being set rather than going back to fix it up. It will even
work in cases where the header has been set and the response has been
committed to the client before your fix-up code runs.

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RE: "exception-message" header reveals path to document root in 404 response.

2014-01-11 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
> From: Howard W. Smith, Jr. [mailto:smithh032...@gmail.com] 
> Subject: Re: "exception-message" header reveals path to document root in 404 
> response.

> Wow, when I saw this last night, I shook my head and said to myself,

> Server: Apache-Coyote/1.1

> this may be one of the reasons why my server/web-app are subject to
> repeat-offender attacks from certain/few IP addresses in China/Vietnam.

For the truly paranoid (to quote from the docs), look at the server attribute 
of the  element:
http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/config/http.html

 - Chuck


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Re: "exception-message" header reveals path to document root in 404 response.

2014-01-11 Thread Howard W. Smith, Jr.
On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Caldarale, Charles R <
chuck.caldar...@unisys.com> wrote:

> Here's Tomcat's standard 404 response:
>
> HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found
> Server: Apache-Coyote/1.1
> Content-Type: text/html;charset=utf-8
> Content-Length: 1027
> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 23:59:34 GMT
>

Wow, when I saw this last night, I shook my head and said to myself,

Server: Apache-Coyote/1.1

this may be one of the reasons why my server/web-app are subject to
repeat-offender attacks from certain/few IP addresses in China/Vietnam.

I never new that a 404 would expose the server name (apache coyote). I
guess/assume that once they see that server name in the 404 response, some
of those bots continue to try and try.


Re: "exception-message" header reveals path to document root in 404 response.

2014-01-11 Thread Mark Thomas
On 11/01/2014 00:02, Caldarale, Charles R wrote:
>> From: August Kleimo [mailto:aug...@kleimo.com] 
>> Subject: "exception-message" header reveals path to document root in 404 
>> response.
> 
>> I'm failing a PCI compliance scan because my Tomcat Version 7.0.20 server
>> is revealing the path to the document web root in an "exception-message"
>> header when a missing page is requested.
> 
> If you were really worried about security, you wouldn't be running a version 
> of Tomcat that's 2.5 years old.  Seriously, upgrade.

You have to wonder about the quality of a compliance scan that complains
about the exposure of a completely standard path for web content but
doesn't complain about running a server with 9 important, 2 moderate and
1 low security vulnerabilities. While a number of those vulnerabilities
may not impact the server, several of the DoS vulnerabilities certainly
will.

Mark


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Re: "exception-message" header reveals path to document root in 404 response.

2014-01-10 Thread Jordan Michaels

Thanks August, good to know.

Warm Regards,
Jordan Michaels

On 01/10/2014 04:48 PM, August Kleimo wrote:

Hi All,  Thanks for all your replies.  Turns out it was in fact Railo.  I
searched the Railo repo on GitHub and found a reference to that header.  I
was able to overwrite it with a blank string using this line of code.






On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Jordan Michaels wrote:


It may also be useful to know if you get this same "exception-message"
header when you get a 404 from the Railo servlet (from a request for a .cfm
file).

It may help determine if Railo is involved or not.


Warm Regards,
Jordan Michaels

On 01/10/2014 04:02 PM, Caldarale, Charles R wrote:


From: August Kleimo [mailto:aug...@kleimo.com]

Subject: "exception-message" header reveals path to document root in 404
response.



  I'm failing a PCI compliance scan because my Tomcat Version 7.0.20 server

is revealing the path to the document web root in an "exception-message"
header when a missing page is requested.



If you were really worried about security, you wouldn't be running a
version of Tomcat that's 2.5 years old.  Seriously, upgrade.

  Does anyone know of way to get rid of this header from the response?




Use your own custom error page.

  Note: I'm running Railo 4.1.2 on top of Tomcat ... but I think this

header
is coming from Tomcat.



Nope.  Here's Tomcat's standard 404 response:

HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found
Server: Apache-Coyote/1.1
Content-Type: text/html;charset=utf-8
Content-Length: 1027
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 23:59:34 GMT

Most likely Railo is using a "friendly" error page.

   - Chuck


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Re: "exception-message" header reveals path to document root in 404 response.

2014-01-10 Thread August Kleimo
Hi All,  Thanks for all your replies.  Turns out it was in fact Railo.  I
searched the Railo repo on GitHub and found a reference to that header.  I
was able to overwrite it with a blank string using this line of code.






On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Jordan Michaels wrote:

> It may also be useful to know if you get this same "exception-message"
> header when you get a 404 from the Railo servlet (from a request for a .cfm
> file).
>
> It may help determine if Railo is involved or not.
>
>
> Warm Regards,
> Jordan Michaels
>
> On 01/10/2014 04:02 PM, Caldarale, Charles R wrote:
>
>> From: August Kleimo [mailto:aug...@kleimo.com]
>>> Subject: "exception-message" header reveals path to document root in 404
>>> response.
>>>
>>
>>  I'm failing a PCI compliance scan because my Tomcat Version 7.0.20 server
>>> is revealing the path to the document web root in an "exception-message"
>>> header when a missing page is requested.
>>>
>>
>> If you were really worried about security, you wouldn't be running a
>> version of Tomcat that's 2.5 years old.  Seriously, upgrade.
>>
>>  Does anyone know of way to get rid of this header from the response?
>>>
>>
>> Use your own custom error page.
>>
>>  Note: I'm running Railo 4.1.2 on top of Tomcat ... but I think this
>>> header
>>> is coming from Tomcat.
>>>
>>
>> Nope.  Here's Tomcat's standard 404 response:
>>
>> HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found
>> Server: Apache-Coyote/1.1
>> Content-Type: text/html;charset=utf-8
>> Content-Length: 1027
>> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 23:59:34 GMT
>>
>> Most likely Railo is using a "friendly" error page.
>>
>>   - Chuck
>>
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Re: "exception-message" header reveals path to document root in 404 response.

2014-01-10 Thread Jordan Michaels
It may also be useful to know if you get this same "exception-message" 
header when you get a 404 from the Railo servlet (from a request for a 
.cfm file).


It may help determine if Railo is involved or not.

Warm Regards,
Jordan Michaels

On 01/10/2014 04:02 PM, Caldarale, Charles R wrote:

From: August Kleimo [mailto:aug...@kleimo.com]
Subject: "exception-message" header reveals path to document root in 404 
response.



I'm failing a PCI compliance scan because my Tomcat Version 7.0.20 server
is revealing the path to the document web root in an "exception-message"
header when a missing page is requested.


If you were really worried about security, you wouldn't be running a version of 
Tomcat that's 2.5 years old.  Seriously, upgrade.


Does anyone know of way to get rid of this header from the response?


Use your own custom error page.


Note: I'm running Railo 4.1.2 on top of Tomcat ... but I think this header
is coming from Tomcat.


Nope.  Here's Tomcat's standard 404 response:

HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found
Server: Apache-Coyote/1.1
Content-Type: text/html;charset=utf-8
Content-Length: 1027
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 23:59:34 GMT

Most likely Railo is using a "friendly" error page.

  - Chuck


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Re: "exception-message" header reveals path to document root in 404 response.

2014-01-10 Thread Jordan Michaels
Although I suppose it's possible, I don't think it has to do with Railo. 
The Railo servlet doesn't handle requests for .html files... those are 
handled by Tomcat's default servlet.


Here are the default (suggested) handlers for a Railo install:


CFMLServlet
*.cfm
*.cfml
*.cfc

/index.cfc/*
/index.cfm/*
/index.cfml/*




MessageBrokerServlet
/flex2gateway/*
/flashservices/gateway/*
/messagebroker/*




RestServlet
/rest/*


August, can you describe you're install a bit more? How did you install 
Railo? Did you start with a Vanilla Tomcat install and install a Railo 
war? Have you customized your install at all or added any custom configs?


Warm Regards,
Jordan Michaels

On 01/10/2014 04:02 PM, Caldarale, Charles R wrote:

From: August Kleimo [mailto:aug...@kleimo.com]
Subject: "exception-message" header reveals path to document root in 404 
response.



I'm failing a PCI compliance scan because my Tomcat Version 7.0.20 server
is revealing the path to the document web root in an "exception-message"
header when a missing page is requested.


If you were really worried about security, you wouldn't be running a version of 
Tomcat that's 2.5 years old.  Seriously, upgrade.


Does anyone know of way to get rid of this header from the response?


Use your own custom error page.


Note: I'm running Railo 4.1.2 on top of Tomcat ... but I think this header
is coming from Tomcat.


Nope.  Here's Tomcat's standard 404 response:

HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found
Server: Apache-Coyote/1.1
Content-Type: text/html;charset=utf-8
Content-Length: 1027
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 23:59:34 GMT

Most likely Railo is using a "friendly" error page.

  - Chuck


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Re: “exception-message” header reveals path to document root in 404 response.

2014-01-10 Thread August Kleimo
Thanks, Perhaps it's coming from Railo then.  I'll investigate down that
path.


On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Mark Eggers  wrote:

> On 1/10/2014 3:28 PM, August Kleimo wrote:
>
>> I'm failing a PCI compliance scan because my Tomcat Version 7.0.20 server
>> is revealing the path to the document web root in an "exception-message"
>> header when a missing page is requested.
>>
>> Does anyone know of way to get rid of this header from the response?
>>
>> Note: I'm running Railo 4.1.2 on top of Tomcat ... but I think this header
>> is coming from Tomcat.
>>
>> $ curl -I http://mydomain.com/this-page-does-not-exist.html
>>
>> HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found
>> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 23:23:22 GMT
>> Server: Apache-Coyote/1.1
>> exception-message: Page
>> /this-page-does-not-exist.html [/var/www/html/this-page-does-
>> not-exist.html]
>> not found
>> Content-Type: text/html;charset=UTF-8
>> Content-Length: 44
>> Set-Cookie: cfid=686ea13b-ef35-43c3-b6e4-08270bbb4718;Path=/;Expires=Sun,
>> 10-Jan-2044 07:14:52 GMT;HTTPOnly
>> Set-Cookie: cftoken=0;Path=/;Expires=Sun, 10-Jan-2044 07:14:52
>> GMT;HTTPOnly
>> Connection: close
>>
>>  From Tomcat 7.0.42 / APR Native on Fedora 20 with jre 1.7.0_45:
>
> curl -I http://localhost:8080/this-does-not-exist.html
> HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found
> Server: Apache-Coyote/1.1
> Content-Type: text/html;charset=utf-8
> Content-Length: 999
> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 23:46:44 GMT
>
> A quick grep of the Tomcat 7 trunk code does not reveal the string
> 'exception-message' anywhere.
>
> I didn't see anything in the change log concerning this, either.
>
> . . . . just my (waiting for testing to be done) two cents
> /mde/
>
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RE: "exception-message" header reveals path to document root in 404 response.

2014-01-10 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
> From: August Kleimo [mailto:aug...@kleimo.com] 
> Subject: "exception-message" header reveals path to document root in 404 
> response.

> I'm failing a PCI compliance scan because my Tomcat Version 7.0.20 server
> is revealing the path to the document web root in an "exception-message"
> header when a missing page is requested.

If you were really worried about security, you wouldn't be running a version of 
Tomcat that's 2.5 years old.  Seriously, upgrade.

> Does anyone know of way to get rid of this header from the response?

Use your own custom error page.

> Note: I'm running Railo 4.1.2 on top of Tomcat ... but I think this header
> is coming from Tomcat.

Nope.  Here's Tomcat's standard 404 response:

HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found
Server: Apache-Coyote/1.1
Content-Type: text/html;charset=utf-8
Content-Length: 1027
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 23:59:34 GMT

Most likely Railo is using a "friendly" error page.

 - Chuck


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Re: “exception-message” header reveals path to document root in 404 response.

2014-01-10 Thread Mark Eggers

On 1/10/2014 3:28 PM, August Kleimo wrote:

I'm failing a PCI compliance scan because my Tomcat Version 7.0.20 server
is revealing the path to the document web root in an "exception-message"
header when a missing page is requested.

Does anyone know of way to get rid of this header from the response?

Note: I'm running Railo 4.1.2 on top of Tomcat ... but I think this header
is coming from Tomcat.

$ curl -I http://mydomain.com/this-page-does-not-exist.html

HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 23:23:22 GMT
Server: Apache-Coyote/1.1
exception-message: Page
/this-page-does-not-exist.html [/var/www/html/this-page-does-not-exist.html]
not found
Content-Type: text/html;charset=UTF-8
Content-Length: 44
Set-Cookie: cfid=686ea13b-ef35-43c3-b6e4-08270bbb4718;Path=/;Expires=Sun,
10-Jan-2044 07:14:52 GMT;HTTPOnly
Set-Cookie: cftoken=0;Path=/;Expires=Sun, 10-Jan-2044 07:14:52 GMT;HTTPOnly
Connection: close


From Tomcat 7.0.42 / APR Native on Fedora 20 with jre 1.7.0_45:

curl -I http://localhost:8080/this-does-not-exist.html
HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found
Server: Apache-Coyote/1.1
Content-Type: text/html;charset=utf-8
Content-Length: 999
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 23:46:44 GMT

A quick grep of the Tomcat 7 trunk code does not reveal the string 
'exception-message' anywhere.


I didn't see anything in the change log concerning this, either.

. . . . just my (waiting for testing to be done) two cents
/mde/



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