Tomcat WAP/WML

2005-11-08 Thread Carl Olivier
Greetings

This may be a very stupid question, but I am busy researching serving WML
content to WAP devices - from my existing Tomcat (5.0.28) server - from
existing web apps - as the content is shared - standard HTML/HTTP via JSP -
would like to provide a WAP/WML access point to the same site/content.

Has anyone had experience with this - and who would be able to point me in
the right direction?

Thanks in advance,

Carl



Re: Tomcat WAP/WML

2005-11-08 Thread t.n.a.

Carl Olivier wrote:


Greetings

This may be a very stupid question, but I am busy researching serving WML
content to WAP devices - from my existing Tomcat (5.0.28) server - from
existing web apps - as the content is shared - standard HTML/HTTP via JSP -
would like to provide a WAP/WML access point to the same site/content.

Has anyone had experience with this - and who would be able to point me in
the right direction?
 

I've built a small WAP app running on tomcat a couple of months ago. A 
couple of my collegues have done just what you sad, built a site that 
could serve either HTML or WML, but using PHP.
I don't know what exactly you would like to know more about? Using the 
same content for both presentation layers? That shouldn't be too 
difficult: generate your docs as XML and build a couple of XSLT 
adapters: one for HTML and one for WML.


Regards,
t.n.a.

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Re: Tomcat WAP/WML

2005-11-08 Thread Jon Wingfield
You don't need a WAP gateway. The mobile operator's have them and they 
proxy the browser request :)
You just need to make sure the wml you vend is valid and sent with the 
correct mime type and the operator's gateway will do the rest 
(conversion to wmlc, a wbxml tokenized version of the markup).


HTH,

Jon

Carl Olivier wrote:

Thanks!

Appreciate that. 


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Carl Olivier wrote:



Hi.

Thanks for the info - but I was actually wonderin about the whole WAP 
gateway - generating the different presentation layers is no problem - 
however the protocol handler?  Maybe I should go do more reading - but 
I assume a WAP gateway is required in order to process the WAP stacck 
to HTTP stack and send to the web server?





I see your point. I'll forward your query to my colleagues and see what they
have to say about it.

t.n.a.


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Re: Tomcat WAP/WML

2005-11-08 Thread Zohar Amir

http://www.kannel.org/

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Hi.

Great.  Thanks! Is there Gateway software available though?  If you wanted
to set your own gateway up?

Carl

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You don't need a WAP gateway. The mobile operator's have them and they 
proxy
the browser request :) You just need to make sure the wml you vend is 
valid

and sent with the correct mime type and the operator's gateway will do the
rest (conversion to wmlc, a wbxml tokenized version of the markup).

HTH,

Jon

Carl Olivier wrote:

Thanks!

Appreciate that.

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Carl Olivier wrote:



Hi.

Thanks for the info - but I was actually wonderin about the whole WAP
gateway - generating the different presentation layers is no problem -
however the protocol handler?  Maybe I should go do more reading - but
I assume a WAP gateway is required in order to process the WAP stacck
to HTTP stack and send to the web server?




I see your point. I'll forward your query to my colleagues and see
what they have to say about it.

t.n.a.


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Re: Tomcat WAP/WML

2005-11-08 Thread Jon Wingfield
Sure. All the big boys sell gateways. The Nokia gateway seems to be used 
 (or at least was) a fair bit within the operators themselves.

Here's a Nokia SDK which may be of use:
http://www.forum.nokia.com/main/0,,034-741,00.html

The major OSS gateway is kannel (http://www.kannel.org/)
The last time I looked there weren't any mature OSS gateways written in 
java. That could have changed though...


Jon

Carl Olivier wrote:

Hi.

Great.  Thanks! Is there Gateway software available though?  If you wanted
to set your own gateway up?

Carl 


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From: Jon Wingfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 08 November 2005 12:11

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Subject: Re: Tomcat WAP/WML

You don't need a WAP gateway. The mobile operator's have them and they proxy
the browser request :) You just need to make sure the wml you vend is valid
and sent with the correct mime type and the operator's gateway will do the
rest (conversion to wmlc, a wbxml tokenized version of the markup).

HTH,

Jon

Carl Olivier wrote:


Thanks!

Appreciate that. 


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Carl Olivier wrote:




Hi.

Thanks for the info - but I was actually wonderin about the whole WAP 
gateway - generating the different presentation layers is no problem - 
however the protocol handler?  Maybe I should go do more reading - but 
I assume a WAP gateway is required in order to process the WAP stacck 
to HTTP stack and send to the web server?





I see your point. I'll forward your query to my colleagues and see 
what they have to say about it.


t.n.a.


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Re: Tomcat WAP/WML

2005-11-08 Thread t.n.a.
My colleagues directed me to the same site. I guess that should be the 
way to go.


t.n.a.

Zohar Amir wrote:


http://www.kannel.org/

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Hi.

Great.  Thanks! Is there Gateway software available though?  If you 
wanted

to set your own gateway up?

Carl

-Original Message-
From: Jon Wingfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 November 2005 12:11
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Tomcat WAP/WML

You don't need a WAP gateway. The mobile operator's have them and 
they proxy
the browser request :) You just need to make sure the wml you vend is 
valid
and sent with the correct mime type and the operator's gateway will 
do the

rest (conversion to wmlc, a wbxml tokenized version of the markup).

HTH,

Jon

Carl Olivier wrote:


Thanks!

Appreciate that.

-Original Message-
From: t.n.a. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 November 2005 11:54
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Tomcat WAP/WML

Carl Olivier wrote:



Hi.

Thanks for the info - but I was actually wonderin about the whole WAP
gateway - generating the different presentation layers is no problem -
however the protocol handler?  Maybe I should go do more reading - but
I assume a WAP gateway is required in order to process the WAP stacck
to HTTP stack and send to the web server?




I see your point. I'll forward your query to my colleagues and see
what they have to say about it.

t.n.a.


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