Re: possibility of runtime replication of jkstatus / mod_jk

2009-09-02 Thread Rainer Jung
On 19.08.2009 15:12, Markus Pohle wrote:
 
 
 Hi list members,
 I am Markus Pohle, new subscriber to this list and long time user of
 apache tomcat and tomcat connector (with apache httpd).
 
 I do have a question according to mod_jk and jkstatus for which I did
 not find any answer or solution, neither on internet/google nor the
 mailing list and I hope, someone of you can help me.
 
 Here is the scenario:
 
 - two physical frontend servers, each with one apache httpd webserver
 with mod_jk
 - two physical middle tier servers, each with two apache tomcat servers
 - the two frontend servers use linux-ha and heartbeat for failover
 - mod_jk on the frontend servers are used to connect thru ajp13 to the
 tomcat servers and do simple loadbalancing and failover (for the tomcats)
 
 - the both frontend servers with apache httpd have same mod_jk
 configuration (of course!)
 
 now it comes...
 
 during uptime changes are made to the mod_jk configuration thru the
 jkstatus pages, like disabling or stopping one tomcat node. if that
 happens, the actual jkstatus configuration does not match the static
 mod_jk-conf-file configuration any more. if the first frontend server
 (or the apache httpd server on it) crashes, linux-ha and heartbeat do a
 takeover to the second frontend server and start apache httpd on the
 server. during apache httpd startup it loads its mod_jk configuration,
 but that one differs from the actual jkstatus configuration on the
 crashed first frontend server!
 
 My problem is, that I do not know how to replicate the actual jkstatus
 config from the first frontend server to the second one so that i case
 of takeover the modified configuration from with jkstatus is being kept.
 
 Does anybody ever had the same problem? Is there a solution? Any help
 would be realy appreciated!

I don't have a nice answer, but I would

- use a script for the common tasks, like changing the activation state
- use administrative discipline for the unspecific rest of changes

jkstatus uses only GET requests, and the URLs are easy to compose. So
you can have a script using e.g. curl as an http commandline client and
looping over the nodes of your farm to apply chnges for all nodes. The
script can be run on any node, that has web access to jkstatus of all
Apaches. curl also knows how to do basic auth.

I plan to add saving of config changes, but this will not obviously
solve the replication problem. The saved changes will be most likely in
the form of a change protocol which gets replayed (added to the
workers.properties) during startup. So in a distributed situation you
would still need to apply the changes to all nodes.

Farm management is currently not close (in time).

Regards,

Rainer

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possibility of runtime replication of jkstatus / mod_jk

2009-08-19 Thread Markus Pohle



Hi list members,
I am Markus Pohle, new subscriber to this list and long time user of  
apache tomcat and tomcat connector (with apache httpd).


I do have a question according to mod_jk and jkstatus for which I did  
not find any answer or solution, neither on internet/google nor the  
mailing list and I hope, someone of you can help me.


Here is the scenario:

- two physical frontend servers, each with one apache httpd webserver  
with mod_jk

- two physical middle tier servers, each with two apache tomcat servers
- the two frontend servers use linux-ha and heartbeat for failover
- mod_jk on the frontend servers are used to connect thru ajp13 to the  
tomcat servers and do simple loadbalancing and failover (for the  
tomcats)


- the both frontend servers with apache httpd have same mod_jk  
configuration (of course!)


now it comes...

during uptime changes are made to the mod_jk configuration thru the  
jkstatus pages, like disabling or stopping one tomcat node. if that  
happens, the actual jkstatus configuration does not match the static  
mod_jk-conf-file configuration any more. if the first frontend server  
(or the apache httpd server on it) crashes, linux-ha and heartbeat do  
a takeover to the second frontend server and start apache httpd on the  
server. during apache httpd startup it loads its mod_jk configuration,  
but that one differs from the actual jkstatus configuration on the  
crashed first frontend server!


My problem is, that I do not know how to replicate the actual jkstatus  
config from the first frontend server to the second one so that i case  
of takeover the modified configuration from with jkstatus is being kept.


Does anybody ever had the same problem? Is there a solution? Any help  
would be realy appreciated!


TIA,
Markus Pohle



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