Re: Stateless and Ajax
Hi igor, i certainly do agree that being stateful Wicket can do complex stuff. However, you have to consider the fact that sometimes it is necessary to become stateless (especially in public facing website) where I need the users to be able to bookmark the page . i do not see whats wrong in integrating some stateless behaviours, links like those in Jorilla Project into the wicket core so that users can get the best of both world from wicket framework. -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Stateless-and-Ajax-tp4344007p4364341.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Stateless and Ajax
Hi, On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 1:02 PM, toytown prasanna.tulad...@gmail.com wrote: Hi igor, i certainly do agree that being stateful Wicket can do complex stuff. However, you have to consider the fact that sometimes it is necessary to become stateless (especially in public facing website) where I need the users to be able to bookmark the page . i do not see whats wrong in integrating some stateless behaviours, links like those in Jorilla Project into the wicket core so that users can get the best of both world from wicket framework. I think the problem to integrate such behaviors is that someone will face problems like the one I described earlier in this thread and file a ticket which we wont be able to solve. When I upgraded Jolira's stateless project to 1.5 I asked the original author whether it is OK to put it in WicketStuff project so it will be released for each version of Wicket but he preferred to keep it in his Github repo. I think it works fine with 1.5.4 but since it is not part of our release cycle it may get broken at some point ... :-/ -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Stateless-and-Ajax-tp4344007p4364341.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org -- Martin Grigorov jWeekend Training, Consulting, Development http://jWeekend.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Stateless and Ajax
i am just now trying to program the same thing,this kind of is very tough to implement if not impossible.. i am adding the following things in url 1)replaced component markupid 2)replaced with component class name so as to instantiate the component that replaced old one but its constructor/constructors will still have arguments which again will be needed to store in url and they can be complex too so kind of very tough to do if not impossible or i am thinking in wrong direction? On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Igor Vaynberg igor.vaynb...@gmail.com wrote: if you are using stateless ajax links like that then the fact that the panel has been replaced should be added as a query parameter so the page is reinitialized with the right panel, thats how stateless frameworks work :) -igor On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Martin Grigorov mgrigo...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 5:04 PM, zlatko99 zlatko.suslev...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you all involved in this thread. With your help, I managed to build a login/registration form, totally stateless and submitted with ajax. (Thanks, Robert, for the referenced component, it works really good). This was a proof of concept for me that such a page could be built in Wicket. I want to continue further with my project in a completely stateless manner. However, I see my project using many more complicated ajax components (ajax-autocomplete, etc.), also incorporating jqwicket library for integration with Jquery UI. Is it possible to continue with this arsenal of stateless ajax components (extended jolira) in order to achieve my plan? If I go this route (like the login/registration form), can I be optimistic that I can overcome all or most of other stateless ajax quirks waiting for me in the future? I'm thinking of a problem which I'm not sure can be handled by stateless ajax. A page has a panel and an ajax link that replaces this panel with a another panel. So far so good. The new panel also has an ajax link. Clicking on this link will lead to ComponentNotFoundException I think, because it wont be in the initial state of the re-created page. Stateless Ajax users can you try this scenario ? I work with Wicket 6.0-SNAPSHOT and Roberts' components nicely fit in my environment. Cool! More users testing the new Ajax impl in Wicket 6.0 ! Thank you, Zlatko -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Stateless-and-Ajax-tp4344007p4348144.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org -- Martin Grigorov jWeekend Training, Consulting, Development http://jWeekend.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org -- thank you, regards, Vineet Semwal - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Stateless and Ajax
no, you are thinking in the right direction. this is why wicket's stateful model is better then stateless frameworks for complex UIs -igor On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 11:24 AM, vineet semwal vineetsemwal1...@gmail.com wrote: i am just now trying to program the same thing,this kind of is very tough to implement if not impossible.. i am adding the following things in url 1)replaced component markupid 2)replaced with component class name so as to instantiate the component that replaced old one but its constructor/constructors will still have arguments which again will be needed to store in url and they can be complex too so kind of very tough to do if not impossible or i am thinking in wrong direction? On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Igor Vaynberg igor.vaynb...@gmail.com wrote: if you are using stateless ajax links like that then the fact that the panel has been replaced should be added as a query parameter so the page is reinitialized with the right panel, thats how stateless frameworks work :) -igor On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Martin Grigorov mgrigo...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 5:04 PM, zlatko99 zlatko.suslev...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you all involved in this thread. With your help, I managed to build a login/registration form, totally stateless and submitted with ajax. (Thanks, Robert, for the referenced component, it works really good). This was a proof of concept for me that such a page could be built in Wicket. I want to continue further with my project in a completely stateless manner. However, I see my project using many more complicated ajax components (ajax-autocomplete, etc.), also incorporating jqwicket library for integration with Jquery UI. Is it possible to continue with this arsenal of stateless ajax components (extended jolira) in order to achieve my plan? If I go this route (like the login/registration form), can I be optimistic that I can overcome all or most of other stateless ajax quirks waiting for me in the future? I'm thinking of a problem which I'm not sure can be handled by stateless ajax. A page has a panel and an ajax link that replaces this panel with a another panel. So far so good. The new panel also has an ajax link. Clicking on this link will lead to ComponentNotFoundException I think, because it wont be in the initial state of the re-created page. Stateless Ajax users can you try this scenario ? I work with Wicket 6.0-SNAPSHOT and Roberts' components nicely fit in my environment. Cool! More users testing the new Ajax impl in Wicket 6.0 ! Thank you, Zlatko -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Stateless-and-Ajax-tp4344007p4348144.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org -- Martin Grigorov jWeekend Training, Consulting, Development http://jWeekend.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org -- thank you, regards, Vineet Semwal - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Stateless and Ajax
ha yeah i just now realized its nearly impossible to do complex things in stateless frameworks. thanks :) On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:03 AM, Igor Vaynberg igor.vaynb...@gmail.com wrote: no, you are thinking in the right direction. this is why wicket's stateful model is better then stateless frameworks for complex UIs -igor On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 11:24 AM, vineet semwal vineetsemwal1...@gmail.com wrote: i am just now trying to program the same thing,this kind of is very tough to implement if not impossible.. i am adding the following things in url 1)replaced component markupid 2)replaced with component class name so as to instantiate the component that replaced old one but its constructor/constructors will still have arguments which again will be needed to store in url and they can be complex too so kind of very tough to do if not impossible or i am thinking in wrong direction? On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Igor Vaynberg igor.vaynb...@gmail.com wrote: if you are using stateless ajax links like that then the fact that the panel has been replaced should be added as a query parameter so the page is reinitialized with the right panel, thats how stateless frameworks work :) -igor On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Martin Grigorov mgrigo...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 5:04 PM, zlatko99 zlatko.suslev...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you all involved in this thread. With your help, I managed to build a login/registration form, totally stateless and submitted with ajax. (Thanks, Robert, for the referenced component, it works really good). This was a proof of concept for me that such a page could be built in Wicket. I want to continue further with my project in a completely stateless manner. However, I see my project using many more complicated ajax components (ajax-autocomplete, etc.), also incorporating jqwicket library for integration with Jquery UI. Is it possible to continue with this arsenal of stateless ajax components (extended jolira) in order to achieve my plan? If I go this route (like the login/registration form), can I be optimistic that I can overcome all or most of other stateless ajax quirks waiting for me in the future? I'm thinking of a problem which I'm not sure can be handled by stateless ajax. A page has a panel and an ajax link that replaces this panel with a another panel. So far so good. The new panel also has an ajax link. Clicking on this link will lead to ComponentNotFoundException I think, because it wont be in the initial state of the re-created page. Stateless Ajax users can you try this scenario ? I work with Wicket 6.0-SNAPSHOT and Roberts' components nicely fit in my environment. Cool! More users testing the new Ajax impl in Wicket 6.0 ! Thank you, Zlatko -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Stateless-and-Ajax-tp4344007p4348144.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org -- Martin Grigorov jWeekend Training, Consulting, Development http://jWeekend.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org -- thank you, regards, Vineet Semwal - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org -- thank you, regards, Vineet Semwal - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Stateless and Ajax
its possible, but certainly nowhere as easy as Wicket makes it. -igor On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 11:45 AM, vineet semwal vineetsemwal1...@gmail.com wrote: ha yeah i just now realized its nearly impossible to do complex things in stateless frameworks. thanks :) On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:03 AM, Igor Vaynberg igor.vaynb...@gmail.com wrote: no, you are thinking in the right direction. this is why wicket's stateful model is better then stateless frameworks for complex UIs -igor On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 11:24 AM, vineet semwal vineetsemwal1...@gmail.com wrote: i am just now trying to program the same thing,this kind of is very tough to implement if not impossible.. i am adding the following things in url 1)replaced component markupid 2)replaced with component class name so as to instantiate the component that replaced old one but its constructor/constructors will still have arguments which again will be needed to store in url and they can be complex too so kind of very tough to do if not impossible or i am thinking in wrong direction? On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Igor Vaynberg igor.vaynb...@gmail.com wrote: if you are using stateless ajax links like that then the fact that the panel has been replaced should be added as a query parameter so the page is reinitialized with the right panel, thats how stateless frameworks work :) -igor On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Martin Grigorov mgrigo...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 5:04 PM, zlatko99 zlatko.suslev...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you all involved in this thread. With your help, I managed to build a login/registration form, totally stateless and submitted with ajax. (Thanks, Robert, for the referenced component, it works really good). This was a proof of concept for me that such a page could be built in Wicket. I want to continue further with my project in a completely stateless manner. However, I see my project using many more complicated ajax components (ajax-autocomplete, etc.), also incorporating jqwicket library for integration with Jquery UI. Is it possible to continue with this arsenal of stateless ajax components (extended jolira) in order to achieve my plan? If I go this route (like the login/registration form), can I be optimistic that I can overcome all or most of other stateless ajax quirks waiting for me in the future? I'm thinking of a problem which I'm not sure can be handled by stateless ajax. A page has a panel and an ajax link that replaces this panel with a another panel. So far so good. The new panel also has an ajax link. Clicking on this link will lead to ComponentNotFoundException I think, because it wont be in the initial state of the re-created page. Stateless Ajax users can you try this scenario ? I work with Wicket 6.0-SNAPSHOT and Roberts' components nicely fit in my environment. Cool! More users testing the new Ajax impl in Wicket 6.0 ! Thank you, Zlatko -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Stateless-and-Ajax-tp4344007p4348144.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org -- Martin Grigorov jWeekend Training, Consulting, Development http://jWeekend.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org -- thank you, regards, Vineet Semwal - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org -- thank you, regards, Vineet Semwal - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Stateless and Ajax
Thank you all involved in this thread. With your help, I managed to build a login/registration form, totally stateless and submitted with ajax. (Thanks, Robert, for the referenced component, it works really good). This was a proof of concept for me that such a page could be built in Wicket. I want to continue further with my project in a completely stateless manner. However, I see my project using many more complicated ajax components (ajax-autocomplete, etc.), also incorporating jqwicket library for integration with Jquery UI. Is it possible to continue with this arsenal of stateless ajax components (extended jolira) in order to achieve my plan? If I go this route (like the login/registration form), can I be optimistic that I can overcome all or most of other stateless ajax quirks waiting for me in the future? I work with Wicket 6.0-SNAPSHOT and Roberts' components nicely fit in my environment. Thank you, Zlatko -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Stateless-and-Ajax-tp4344007p4348144.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Stateless and Ajax
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 5:04 PM, zlatko99 zlatko.suslev...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you all involved in this thread. With your help, I managed to build a login/registration form, totally stateless and submitted with ajax. (Thanks, Robert, for the referenced component, it works really good). This was a proof of concept for me that such a page could be built in Wicket. I want to continue further with my project in a completely stateless manner. However, I see my project using many more complicated ajax components (ajax-autocomplete, etc.), also incorporating jqwicket library for integration with Jquery UI. Is it possible to continue with this arsenal of stateless ajax components (extended jolira) in order to achieve my plan? If I go this route (like the login/registration form), can I be optimistic that I can overcome all or most of other stateless ajax quirks waiting for me in the future? I'm thinking of a problem which I'm not sure can be handled by stateless ajax. A page has a panel and an ajax link that replaces this panel with a another panel. So far so good. The new panel also has an ajax link. Clicking on this link will lead to ComponentNotFoundException I think, because it wont be in the initial state of the re-created page. Stateless Ajax users can you try this scenario ? I work with Wicket 6.0-SNAPSHOT and Roberts' components nicely fit in my environment. Cool! More users testing the new Ajax impl in Wicket 6.0 ! Thank you, Zlatko -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Stateless-and-Ajax-tp4344007p4348144.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org -- Martin Grigorov jWeekend Training, Consulting, Development http://jWeekend.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Stateless and Ajax
thats right :) ,even the small toggle visibility will have problem ;) ,i have a way of handling that i think but i have not completely programmed it .i am saving all the state in url works well for the small things like visiblty etc. say for replace that thing can be saved on url oldcomponentmarkupid_replace=newcomponentmarkupId as page is created on every request , that thing can be checked and replaced at that time of creation,not very sure if its correct.,i will try to handle all that thing internally so the the user's code doesnt look dirty . On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Martin Grigorov mgrigo...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 5:04 PM, zlatko99 zlatko.suslev...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you all involved in this thread. With your help, I managed to build a login/registration form, totally stateless and submitted with ajax. (Thanks, Robert, for the referenced component, it works really good). This was a proof of concept for me that such a page could be built in Wicket. I want to continue further with my project in a completely stateless manner. However, I see my project using many more complicated ajax components (ajax-autocomplete, etc.), also incorporating jqwicket library for integration with Jquery UI. Is it possible to continue with this arsenal of stateless ajax components (extended jolira) in order to achieve my plan? If I go this route (like the login/registration form), can I be optimistic that I can overcome all or most of other stateless ajax quirks waiting for me in the future? I'm thinking of a problem which I'm not sure can be handled by stateless ajax. A page has a panel and an ajax link that replaces this panel with a another panel. So far so good. The new panel also has an ajax link. Clicking on this link will lead to ComponentNotFoundException I think, because it wont be in the initial state of the re-created page. Stateless Ajax users can you try this scenario ? I work with Wicket 6.0-SNAPSHOT and Roberts' components nicely fit in my environment. Cool! More users testing the new Ajax impl in Wicket 6.0 ! Thank you, Zlatko -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Stateless-and-Ajax-tp4344007p4348144.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org -- Martin Grigorov jWeekend Training, Consulting, Development http://jWeekend.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org -- thank you, regards, Vineet Semwal - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Stateless and Ajax
if you are using stateless ajax links like that then the fact that the panel has been replaced should be added as a query parameter so the page is reinitialized with the right panel, thats how stateless frameworks work :) -igor On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Martin Grigorov mgrigo...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 5:04 PM, zlatko99 zlatko.suslev...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you all involved in this thread. With your help, I managed to build a login/registration form, totally stateless and submitted with ajax. (Thanks, Robert, for the referenced component, it works really good). This was a proof of concept for me that such a page could be built in Wicket. I want to continue further with my project in a completely stateless manner. However, I see my project using many more complicated ajax components (ajax-autocomplete, etc.), also incorporating jqwicket library for integration with Jquery UI. Is it possible to continue with this arsenal of stateless ajax components (extended jolira) in order to achieve my plan? If I go this route (like the login/registration form), can I be optimistic that I can overcome all or most of other stateless ajax quirks waiting for me in the future? I'm thinking of a problem which I'm not sure can be handled by stateless ajax. A page has a panel and an ajax link that replaces this panel with a another panel. So far so good. The new panel also has an ajax link. Clicking on this link will lead to ComponentNotFoundException I think, because it wont be in the initial state of the re-created page. Stateless Ajax users can you try this scenario ? I work with Wicket 6.0-SNAPSHOT and Roberts' components nicely fit in my environment. Cool! More users testing the new Ajax impl in Wicket 6.0 ! Thank you, Zlatko -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Stateless-and-Ajax-tp4344007p4348144.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org -- Martin Grigorov jWeekend Training, Consulting, Development http://jWeekend.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Stateless and Ajax
Hi all, Can someone explain to me (from an architecture's point of view) why every Ajax component added to a page makes that page statefull? If I set the stateless hint to true and turn off the page versioning, why is a session needed? The reason why I am asking this is because I want to have a totally stateless application, where the data that should be shared between requests will be managed by myself in a cookie. p.s. I tried to use jolira wicket-stateless tools, but there is no way of submitting a stateless form using ajax button... Thank you in advance, Zlatko -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Stateless-and-Ajax-tp4344007p4344007.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Stateless and Ajax
Hi Zlatko, Read this explanation: http://markmail.org/message/fkbbfmd6l7ogxj2t I will update this wiki page soon with all I know about the topic: https://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/stateless-pages.html On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 12:06 PM, zlatko99 zlatko.suslev...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Can someone explain to me (from an architecture's point of view) why every Ajax component added to a page makes that page statefull? If I set the stateless hint to true and turn off the page versioning, why is a session needed? The reason why I am asking this is because I want to have a totally stateless application, where the data that should be shared between requests will be managed by myself in a cookie. p.s. I tried to use jolira wicket-stateless tools, but there is no way of submitting a stateless form using ajax button... Thank you in advance, Zlatko -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Stateless-and-Ajax-tp4344007p4344007.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org -- Martin Grigorov jWeekend Training, Consulting, Development http://jWeekend.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Stateless and Ajax
I dont know if the conversation you pointed to can explain anything for this question;] I can only guess that if you make ajax call and you already have page created then it is faster, from what I know solution like jolira creates new page and whole component tree over and over again on each ajax call. pozdrawiam Paweł Kamiński kami...@gmail.com pkaminski@gmail.com __ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Stateless and Ajax
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 2:16 PM, kamiseq kami...@gmail.com wrote: I dont know if the conversation you pointed to can explain anything for this question;] OK, then it is not clear. Ajax behavior needs to be stateful to be able to find the page that it has to update. By being stateful the behavior makes the whole page stateful and thus this page is stored in the page store at the end of the request cycle. To be able to store it Wicket needs the session id. Later when an Ajax call fires the same session id is used to find this page instance in the store, then find the component with the Ajax behavior in that page and execute the callback method (onEvent, onClick, etc.) Jolira's Ajax behaviors by being stateless do not store the page and thus they recreate a new page instance for each Ajax call. But instead of rendering the whole page only the components added to the AjaxRequestTarget are rendered and delivered back. Is it more clear now ? I can only guess that if you make ajax call and you already have page created then it is faster, from what I know solution like jolira creates new page and whole component tree over and over again on each ajax call. pozdrawiam Paweł Kamiński kami...@gmail.com pkaminski@gmail.com __ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org -- Martin Grigorov jWeekend Training, Consulting, Development http://jWeekend.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Stateless and Ajax
Yes, now it's much more clear, thank you! But then, I'm curious to know why doesn't exist a component in Jolira's package that can submit stateless form by ajax button? Is it not possible for such component to exist or the reason is lacking effort on their side? If it is possible, can you give me some hint in order to be able to come up with such a solution? Thank you, Zlatko -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Stateless-and-Ajax-tp4344007p4344401.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Stateless and Ajax
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 3:01 PM, zlatko99 zlatko.suslev...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, now it's much more clear, thank you! Welcome! But then, I'm curious to know why doesn't exist a component in Jolira's package that can submit stateless form by ajax button? Is it not possible for such component to exist or the reason is lacking effort on their side? If it is possible, can you give me some hint in order to be able to come up with such a solution? Until 1.5.4 Wicket was reading only the GET request parameters to fill its PageParameters. This is improved in 1.5.4 and now it should be possible to use wicket-ajax.js submitFormById() (which uses POST). Try and tell me what problems you face. Then we will figure out how to solve them. Thank you, Zlatko -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Stateless-and-Ajax-tp4344007p4344401.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org -- Martin Grigorov jWeekend Training, Consulting, Development http://jWeekend.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Stateless and Ajax
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Re: Stateless and Ajax
Hi Martin, thank you for your advice and support. I just wanted to ask if this submitFormById() function is wrapped in some Wicket component so I can use it in an object-oriented manner, or am I supposed to call it manually by an onClick event of a button/link? If there is a ready-made component, it would also automatically import the related javascript, isn't it? I would be grateful if you can give me a simple example of submitting stateless form using ajax. Thank you, Zlatko -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Stateless-and-Ajax-tp4344007p4345591.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Stateless and Ajax
Hi Zlatko, Wicket's AjaxSubmitLink uses AjaxFormSubmitBehavior under the hood which uses submitFormById() JavaScript function. See any of the Jolira's behaviors and compare it to its stateful counter part in Wicket and see what you need to do to make AjaxSubmitLink stateless. On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 9:30 PM, zlatko99 zlatko.suslev...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Martin, thank you for your advice and support. I just wanted to ask if this submitFormById() function is wrapped in some Wicket component so I can use it in an object-oriented manner, or am I supposed to call it manually by an onClick event of a button/link? If there is a ready-made component, it would also automatically import the related javascript, isn't it? I would be grateful if you can give me a simple example of submitting stateless form using ajax. Thank you, Zlatko -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Stateless-and-Ajax-tp4344007p4345591.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org -- Martin Grigorov jWeekend Training, Consulting, Development http://jWeekend.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Stateless and Ajax
straight copy from jolira but for 6.0. basically just keep overriding the ajax components and returning getStatelessHint to true and passing page parameters to ajax components as needed. Code is buggy so just use as reference. https://github.com/robmcguinness/wicket-stateless/blob/master/src/main/java/com/robmcguinness/stateless/StatelessAjaxButton.java http://wicket-stateless.herokuapp.com/ *martin,* would the core devs consider pulling some of jolira's ajax components or some variant of it into the wicket-core? seems that over the years a the demand for stateless ajax components is pretty reasonable. rob -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Stateless-and-Ajax-tp4344007p4345686.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Stateless and Ajax
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:04 PM, robert.mcguinness robert.mcguinness@gmail.com wrote: straight copy from jolira but for 6.0. basically just keep overriding the ajax components and returning getStatelessHint to true and passing page parameters to ajax components as needed. Code is buggy so just use as reference. https://github.com/robmcguinness/wicket-stateless/blob/master/src/main/java/com/robmcguinness/stateless/StatelessAjaxButton.java http://wicket-stateless.herokuapp.com/ *martin,* Don't ask Martin, ask at dev@ ;-) would the core devs consider pulling some of jolira's ajax components or some variant of it into the wicket-core? seems that over the years a the demand for stateless ajax components is pretty reasonable. rob -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Stateless-and-Ajax-tp4344007p4345686.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org -- Martin Grigorov jWeekend Training, Consulting, Development http://jWeekend.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
Re: Stateless and Ajax
i have started writing some of that ,the way i am doing is ,the user wont have to contribute or retrieve pageparameters on his own.he will do in the normal wicket fashion ,the user will just have to extend the statelessmodel that i wrote and these things will be done on its own. i am using 1.5.x On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Martin Grigorov mgrigo...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:04 PM, robert.mcguinness robert.mcguinness@gmail.com wrote: straight copy from jolira but for 6.0. basically just keep overriding the ajax components and returning getStatelessHint to true and passing page parameters to ajax components as needed. Code is buggy so just use as reference. https://github.com/robmcguinness/wicket-stateless/blob/master/src/main/java/com/robmcguinness/stateless/StatelessAjaxButton.java http://wicket-stateless.herokuapp.com/ *martin,* Don't ask Martin, ask at dev@ ;-) would the core devs consider pulling some of jolira's ajax components or some variant of it into the wicket-core? seems that over the years a the demand for stateless ajax components is pretty reasonable. rob -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Stateless-and-Ajax-tp4344007p4345686.html Sent from the Users forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org -- Martin Grigorov jWeekend Training, Consulting, Development http://jWeekend.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org -- thank you, regards, Vineet Semwal - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
