Hello Ludovic,
It took me a month to gather all of the material in one place, so sorry for
delay with the reply :)
I've prepared a presentation describing my vision of how collaboration wikis
will change in next few decades
http://prezi.com/nymm70tfdird/next-gen-collaboration-wikis/
Hope that effort was not in vain, and you will find something useful that
will help to make XWiki better.
Regards,
Roman
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From: users-boun...@xwiki.org [mailto:users-boun...@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of
Ludovic Dubost
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 18:27 PM
To: XWiki Users
Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] Extending XWiki collaboration toolset
I'm not so positive about this. The technology behind the LibreOffice Online
version is a bit tricky and it's not clear how it will work effectively.
We should wait and see.
Some thing for Wave, it's not clear how it will be developped in the future and
it seems that the Google experience had shown that the way they mixed Inbox +
Editing Documents + Chat was not the correct solution (beyond the real time
technology in it).
In any case integrating editors for advanced formats is definitively
interesting and is something we should look at. We have the Resilience
Research Project (starting in 2012) on which it is planned to work on Rich Web
Editors. More on it will come before the end of the year. It will include work
on Spreadsheet editors. If anybody knows of good Web based editors for popular
formats that we should look at, tell us.
As for real-time this is very interesting also. We have the Wiki 3.0 project
(https://wiki30.xwikisas.com/xwiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome in French) where XWiki
SAS is doing some work with the INRIA LORIA on integrating real time in the
Wysiwyg editor (with technologies similar to Wave). This is work in progress.
I'd love to hear from our devs and users what they think we should have in this
area ?
Ludovic
2011/10/18 Guillaume Lerouge guilla...@xwiki.com
Hi,
I think that this is an interesting and valid point. In the same way
that users can get a preview of OOo-supported attached files right
now, we could integrate use OOo's upcoming HTML5 version in XWiki
(when it's ready). From this article:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/17/libreoffice_porting_ios_androi
d_cloud/
:
*The LibreOffice Online cloud software is built around HTML5 Canvas
and the
GTK+ framework with JavaScript shims, and was developed by SUSE's
GTK+ Michael
Meeks and RedHat's Alex Laarson. It allows complex text layout, large
spreadsheets, WYSIWYG editing, VBA macros, and pivot tables, with the
server side taking almost the entire processor load.*
So that would seem to answer your initial issue :-) You could upload a
.odt file, edit it online from the wiki, save it and it would be
viewable from the wiki or re-downloadable at will.
Guillaume
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Eugen Colesnicov
ecolesni...@gmail.com
wrote:
coldserenity wrote:
... the UX of the Wave (in this particular case and because
Wave is
a
specialized tool) is superior.
I am not agree with you. Good idea - but realisation - terrible!
1. Google used some special interface functions - they thinking,
that
these
possibilities will be web-standarts - but they got a mistake. For
this reason, Wave working quickly and without problems only on
Google Chrome (only this browser supports all these non-standart functions).
2. Try Wave with Firefox at simple computer (netbook for example) -
cannot
work on big waves (hundred messages)!!! I press one button and
waiting
3-5
secunds per each symbol. It is not problem of notebook - Windows 7,
MS Office working great and quickly!
3. Too many errors on scripts - every 5 minutes I got error - script
bla-bla-bla stopped!
I have experience with Google Wave with big waves of hundreds waves
- for this reason I known what I said.
However it's not the Wave I was trying to promote by this thread,
it
was
just an example of advanced user interaction User-to-User and
User-to-Wiki:
advanced documents editing for most popular types of documents
(text, spreadsheet, and presentation). I understand the complexity
of this task (it took 20 years for Microsoft to build their MS
Office), but the question
is:
I often consider whether to upload a MS Office file as an attachment
or maintain the file's content as an XWiki page - and sooner or
later
someone
will come up with such solution ( Open-source wiki + Open-Source
Google Docs
:) ). So it's not about writing some missing extension - it's about
taking
XWiki to the next level in terms of content editing.
Roman
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From: users-bounces@ [mailto:users-bounces@] On Behalf Of Eugen
Colesnicov
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 20:46 PM
To: users@
Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] Extending XWiki collaboration toolset
Hi! I am not
