[USMA:52678] Bombs Used in Boston Marathon Are Common in South Asia - NYTimes.com

2013-04-17 Thread Nat Hager III
Oh wow.  About to get some unwelcome publicity.

Nat

http://india.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/04/17/what-are-pressure-cooker-bombs-and
-why-do-terrorists-use-them/ 

Forensic experts described the pressure cookers used in the Boston marathon
blasts as generic, but  noted the marking 6L, indicating six liters.
Pressure cookers in the United States are
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Presto-6-Quart-Stainless-Pressure-Cooker/5913466
most often measured in quarts, not liters.



[USMA:52680] correction

2013-04-17 Thread Paul Trusten
Sorry, Remek, I see you did mention the 180 slip. But it's still sad that 
predictions seem to exclude the notion of a totally metric planet.

Paul Trusten, Reg. Pharmacist
Vice President
U.S. Metric Association, Inc.
Midland, Texas USA
www.metric.org 
+1(432)528-7724
trus...@grandecom.net



[USMA:52679] news from the year 2050

2013-04-17 Thread Paul Trusten
But, Remek, the announcer said that the 10-kilometer-high building was built to 
withstand wind speeds of 180 MILES per hour.  Oops!

Seems that futurists from countries still struggling with metrication even have 
difficulty (or is it reluctance?) predicting a fully metric future. I suppose 
it's all in the sexiness of the story, which apparently excludes the work 
required to think metric. It is easy for the BBC to predict the banning of meat 
sales, the first off-earth human birth, and the disappearance of Mandarin, but, 
darn it,  [snaps fingers] they just can't find their way to omit the 
measurement system that should also have gone the way of meat and prisons in 
their thinking. They are literally unable to measure their predictions. 

Paul Trusten, Reg. Pharmacist
Vice President
U.S. Metric Association, Inc.
Midland, Texas USA
www.metric.org 
+1(432)528-7724
trus...@grandecom.net


On Apr 16, 2013, at 10:32, Remek Kocz rek...@gmail.com wrote:

 BBC has an occasional news segment entitled News 2050.  This one caught my 
 eye, as the headline was metric:
  
 http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20130327-news-2050-1m-tower-opens
  
 Indeed, they do a nice job with the 10,000 meter height, no feet equivalents 
 and an appropriate comparison to Mt. Everest is made.  Shortly after, though, 
 they drop the ball an state that the tower can witstand winds of 180mph 
 velocity.  Oh well.
  
 Remek


[USMA:52681] RE: Bombs Used in Boston Marathon Are Common in South Asia - NYTimes.com

2013-04-17 Thread Martin Vlietstra
Pressure cookers should have safety devices to prevent them from exploding.
Although we do not have a pressure cooker at home, I remember that my
mother's pressure cooker had a rubber stopper that would dislodge should the
pressure rise too much.

 

On reading the account, it occurred to me that the pressure cooker used in
the explosion could have been bought in country that did not demand safety
valves on their devices.  (I assume that in the US it would be illegal to
sell pressure cookers without safety valves).  

 

From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf
Of Nat Hager III
Sent: 17 April 2013 12:08
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:52678] Bombs Used in Boston Marathon Are Common in South Asia
- NYTimes.com

 

Oh wow.  About to get some unwelcome publicity.

Nat

http://india.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/04/17/what-are-pressure-cooker-bombs-and
-why-do-terrorists-use-them/ 

Forensic experts described the pressure cookers used in the Boston marathon
blasts as generic, but  noted the marking 6L, indicating six liters.
Pressure cookers in the United States are
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Presto-6-Quart-Stainless-Pressure-Cooker/5913466
most often measured in quarts, not liters.



[USMA:52682] RE: Bombs Used in Boston Marathon Are Common in South Asia - NYTimes.com

2013-04-17 Thread Hillger,Donald
Ok, let's get the record straight here!  I've used pressure cookers a lot and 
they have safety values, but they only allow the pressure to release fast 
enough to avoid normal overheating.  An aunt of mine actually had her pressure 
valve blow and it plastered the ceiling above the stove with the food contents 
inside.

However, a bomb going off is certainly not going to be abated by a pressure 
relief value!

From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf Of 
Martin Vlietstra
Sent: Wednesday, 17 April 2013 06:37
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:52681] RE: Bombs Used in Boston Marathon Are Common in South 
Asia - NYTimes.com

Pressure cookers should have safety devices to prevent them from exploding.  
Although we do not have a pressure cooker at home, I remember that my mother's 
pressure cooker had a rubber stopper that would dislodge should the pressure 
rise too much.

On reading the account, it occurred to me that the pressure cooker used in the 
explosion could have been bought in country that did not demand safety valves 
on their devices.  (I assume that in the US it would be illegal to sell 
pressure cookers without safety valves).

From: owner-u...@colostate.edumailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu 
[mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf Of Nat Hager III
Sent: 17 April 2013 12:08
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:52678] Bombs Used in Boston Marathon Are Common in South Asia - 
NYTimes.com


Oh wow.  About to get some unwelcome publicity.

Nat

http://india.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/04/17/what-are-pressure-cooker-bombs-and-why-do-terrorists-use-them/

Forensic experts described the pressure cookers used in the Boston marathon 
blasts as generic, but  noted the marking 6L, indicating six liters. 
Pressure cookers in the United States are most often 
measuredhttp://www.walmart.com/ip/Presto-6-Quart-Stainless-Pressure-Cooker/5913466
 in quarts, not liters.


[USMA:52683] RE: Bombs Used in Boston Marathon Are Common in South Asia - NYTimes.com

2013-04-17 Thread John M. Steele
Agreed.  I have never activated the safety in mine but it is a frangible 
section in a replacable screw-in fitting.  I estimate the failure section to be 
some 3-5 mm in diameter (not exactly clear where it would fail).  It would 
release steam as fast as a stove could form it.  I'm not sure it needs to be 
replacable.  I've heard most people who have your aunt's experience never 
pressure cook again. :)

They speed up cooking around 3:1, but they are at least slightly scary.  Pot 
roast in a hour makes it worthwhile.

Many brands available in the US are imported, and marked in liters.  A bomb 
blast would create too much overpressure for the safety and blow the cooker 
apart regardless of brand.  Steam pressure builds slowly based on time to heat 
the water.  It may take 15 minutes to get to nominal cooking pressure, moreless 
the trip pressure, if it is half full.





From: Hillger,Donald don.hill...@colostate.edu
To: U.S. Metric Association usma@colostate.edu
Sent: Wed, April 17, 2013 9:27:57 AM
Subject: [USMA:52682] RE: Bombs Used in Boston Marathon Are Common in South 
Asia 
- NYTimes.com


Ok, let’s get the record straight here!  I’ve used pressure cookers a lot and 
they have safety values, but they only allow the pressure to release fast 
enough 
to avoid normal overheating.  An aunt of mine actually had her pressure valve 
blow and it plastered the ceiling above the stove with the food contents inside.
 
However, a bomb going off is certainly not going to be abated by a pressure 
relief value!
 
From:owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf Of 
Martin Vlietstra
Sent: Wednesday, 17 April 2013 06:37
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:52681] RE: Bombs Used in Boston Marathon Are Common in South 
Asia 
- NYTimes.com
 
Pressure cookers should have safety devices to prevent them from exploding.  
Although we do not have a pressure cooker at home, I remember that my mother’s 
pressure cooker had a rubber stopper that would dislodge should the pressure 
rise too much.
 
On reading the account, it occurred to me that the pressure cooker used in the 
explosion could have been bought in country that did not demand safety valves 
on 
their devices.  (I assume that in the US it would be illegal to sell pressure 
cookers without safety valves).  
 
From:owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf Of 
Nat 
Hager III
Sent: 17 April 2013 12:08
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:52678] Bombs Used in Boston Marathon Are Common in South Asia - 
NYTimes.com
 
Oh wow.  About to get some unwelcome publicity.
Nat
http://india.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/04/17/what-are-pressure-cooker-bombs-and-why-do-terrorists-use-them/
 
Forensic experts described the pressure cookers used in the Boston marathon 
blasts as generic, but  noted the marking “6L,” indicating six liters. 
Pressure 
cookers in the United States are most often measured in quarts, not liters.

[USMA:52684] RE: Bombs Used in Boston Marathon Are Common in South Asia - NYTimes.com

2013-04-17 Thread Nat Hager III
My mother used pressure cookers all the time when I was little, to pre-cook
spare ribs for barbeque on the grill.  She said it made them less greasy.

 

Yes, they all had rubber relief valves, but I'm sure a terrorist could weld
that over.

 

Nat

 

From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf
Of Hillger,Donald
Sent: Wednesday, 2013 April 17 9:26
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:52682] RE: Bombs Used in Boston Marathon Are Common in South
Asia - NYTimes.com

 

Ok, let's get the record straight here!  I've used pressure cookers a lot
and they have safety values, but they only allow the pressure to release
fast enough to avoid normal overheating.  An aunt of mine actually had her
pressure valve blow and it plastered the ceiling above the stove with the
food contents inside.

 

However, a bomb going off is certainly not going to be abated by a pressure
relief value!

 

From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf
Of Martin Vlietstra
Sent: Wednesday, 17 April 2013 06:37
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:52681] RE: Bombs Used in Boston Marathon Are Common in South
Asia - NYTimes.com

 

Pressure cookers should have safety devices to prevent them from exploding.
Although we do not have a pressure cooker at home, I remember that my
mother's pressure cooker had a rubber stopper that would dislodge should the
pressure rise too much.

 

On reading the account, it occurred to me that the pressure cooker used in
the explosion could have been bought in country that did not demand safety
valves on their devices.  (I assume that in the US it would be illegal to
sell pressure cookers without safety valves).  

 

From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf
Of Nat Hager III
Sent: 17 April 2013 12:08
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:52678] Bombs Used in Boston Marathon Are Common in South Asia
- NYTimes.com

 

Oh wow.  About to get some unwelcome publicity.

Nat

http://india.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/04/17/what-are-pressure-cooker-bombs-and
-why-do-terrorists-use-them/ 

Forensic experts described the pressure cookers used in the Boston marathon
blasts as generic, but  noted the marking 6L, indicating six liters.
Pressure cookers in the United States are
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Presto-6-Quart-Stainless-Pressure-Cooker/5913466
most often measured in quarts, not liters.