Re: [Vala] Web framework in Vala
On 12/08/2011 08:47 AM, Evan Nemerson wrote: AFAIK GPL restrictions is irrelevant in server side context. GPL not forces You to share unless you distribute your program. AGPL do if I understand correctly. However GPL3 restrictions may become true for embedded devices... It would be a problem for pretty much any reusable software, not just embedded devices. Shopping carts, CMS, CRM, blogs, photo galleries, project management, wikis, issue trackers, forums, etc. Well, the way is simple: do not use GPL if you want to make some proprietary software from opensource. And also i do not going to hardly nail some templating engine to Valum. We can use any engine. But till now ctpl looks like best option in terms of interoperability with GObject and Vala. ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Web framework in Vala
CTPP2 has a BSD-like license allowing to use source code wherever you like, but without any warranty. And i know its' creator a little. He says it's not difficult to add externs and make is C-like library, but he doesn't want to do that by himself. And i'm not familiar with C++ so i can't help with this issue :( Including *any* template system is not difficult, but do it matter if it's slow? If you don't need speed, you're welcome to php/perl/python/etc, that's my opinion. >> AFAIK GPL restrictions is irrelevant in server side context. GPL not >> forces You to share unless you distribute your program. AGPL do if I >> understand correctly. >> >> However GPL3 restrictions may become true for embedded devices... > It would be a problem for pretty much any reusable software, not just > embedded devices. Shopping carts, CMS, CRM, blogs, photo galleries, > project management, wikis, issue trackers, forums, etc. ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Web framework in Vala
On Thu, 2011-12-08 at 07:57 +0300, Antono Vasiljev wrote: > On 12/08/2011 07:30 AM, Evan Nemerson wrote: > > >>> It would be great if someone write vapi for CTPP2 ( > >>> http://ctpp.havoc.ru/en/ ) template parser. It's more "clean" and is > >>> very fast indeed, with precompile, includes, etc.. (that will > >> allow using templates compiled in > >>> php, perl, python, etc). > >> Looks cool. However it written in C++ and not used glib. Not sure how > >> vala deals with such stuff. > > > > Not using glib isn't really an issue, but C++ is. > > I supposed so. > > >> I currently working on vala bindings for ctpl[1]. Ctpl uses glib and > >> also cashes token tree in memory. Not sure about speed but it will be > >> easier to reuse from vala. > > > > CTPL looks interesting, but it is GPLv3+, which is going to be a > > deal-breaker for a *lot* of software. > > AFAIK GPL restrictions is irrelevant in server side context. GPL not > forces You to share unless you distribute your program. AGPL do if I > understand correctly. > > However GPL3 restrictions may become true for embedded devices... It would be a problem for pretty much any reusable software, not just embedded devices. Shopping carts, CMS, CRM, blogs, photo galleries, project management, wikis, issue trackers, forums, etc. -Evan ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Web framework in Vala
On 12/08/2011 07:30 AM, Evan Nemerson wrote: >>> It would be great if someone write vapi for CTPP2 ( >>> http://ctpp.havoc.ru/en/ ) template parser. It's more "clean" and is >>> very fast indeed, with precompile, includes, etc.. (that will >> allow using templates compiled in >>> php, perl, python, etc). >> Looks cool. However it written in C++ and not used glib. Not sure how >> vala deals with such stuff. > > Not using glib isn't really an issue, but C++ is. I supposed so. >> I currently working on vala bindings for ctpl[1]. Ctpl uses glib and >> also cashes token tree in memory. Not sure about speed but it will be >> easier to reuse from vala. > > CTPL looks interesting, but it is GPLv3+, which is going to be a > deal-breaker for a *lot* of software. AFAIK GPL restrictions is irrelevant in server side context. GPL not forces You to share unless you distribute your program. AGPL do if I understand correctly. However GPL3 restrictions may become true for embedded devices... I going to implement Valum.App.render() functon so that you can use multiple rendering engines at the same time. > Another option is Clearsilver. I used it a while back (circa 2008) in a > Vala project via a very thin C wrapper (mostly just to add reference > counting, IIRC). Looking at it now I don't think it would be too > difficult to create Vala bindings for Clearsilver... the API is a bit > unpleasant at times, but you could at least use it as the basis of a > nice Vala wrapper. > > FWIW, I could probably be convinced to write the vapi. That would be awesome, Evan :) It worth to be done! Today we have no templating libs for vala at all. Hovever in Valum we can use lua to render haml templates :) >> Currently i've added autotools support for .gir generation and going to >> add some annotation in order to get .gir file convertable to vapi. > > Why not just have valac output a vapi directly (i.e., --vapi foo.vapi)? > Or are you talking about bindings for a C library? Yes, CTPL is in C and it does not have any annotations. Almost all properties of resulted .gir are introspectable="0" so vapi generated by vapigen is almost empty :) So I going to dig deeper in all this introspection/annotations stuff. -- antono signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Web framework in Vala
On Thu, 2011-12-08 at 03:38 +0300, Antono Vasiljev wrote: > On 12/08/2011 12:57 AM, Denis Kuzmenok wrote: > > > It would be great if someone write vapi for CTPP2 ( > > http://ctpp.havoc.ru/en/ ) template parser. It's more "clean" and is > > very fast indeed, with precompile, includes, etc.. (that will > allow using templates compiled in > > php, perl, python, etc). > Looks cool. However it written in C++ and not used glib. Not sure how > vala deals with such stuff. Not using glib isn't really an issue, but C++ is. > I currently working on vala bindings for ctpl[1]. Ctpl uses glib and > also cashes token tree in memory. Not sure about speed but it will be > easier to reuse from vala. CTPL looks interesting, but it is GPLv3+, which is going to be a deal-breaker for a *lot* of software. Another option is Clearsilver. I used it a while back (circa 2008) in a Vala project via a very thin C wrapper (mostly just to add reference counting, IIRC). Looking at it now I don't think it would be too difficult to create Vala bindings for Clearsilver... the API is a bit unpleasant at times, but you could at least use it as the basis of a nice Vala wrapper. FWIW, I could probably be convinced to write the vapi. > Currently i've added autotools support for .gir generation and going to > add some annotation in order to get .gir file convertable to vapi. Why not just have valac output a vapi directly (i.e., --vapi foo.vapi)? Or are you talking about bindings for a C library? -Evan ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Web framework in Vala
On 12/08/2011 12:57 AM, Denis Kuzmenok wrote: > It would be great if someone write vapi for CTPP2 ( > http://ctpp.havoc.ru/en/ ) template parser. It's more "clean" and is > very fast indeed, with precompile, includes, etc.. (that will allow using templates compiled in > php, perl, python, etc). Looks cool. However it written in C++ and not used glib. Not sure how vala deals with such stuff. I currently working on vala bindings for ctpl[1]. Ctpl uses glib and also cashes token tree in memory. Not sure about speed but it will be easier to reuse from vala. Currently i've added autotools support for .gir generation and going to add some annotation in order to get .gir file convertable to vapi. > I would write vapi if i can That would be cool I also new to gobject and vala bindings so i cannot suggest something valuable. I hope list members can help and answer questions about C++ and Vala/vapi compatability. [1]: http://ctpl.tuxfamily.org/ -- antono ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Web framework in Vala
It would be great if someone write vapi for CTPP2 ( http://ctpp.havoc.ru/en/ ) template parser. It's more "clean" and is very fast indeed, with precompile, includes, etc.. (that will allow using templates compiled in php, perl, python, etc). I would write vapi if i can :) > Hello, All. > I've pushed v0.0.1 of web framework for vala - Valum. > https://github.com/antono/valum > Some features and ideas behind Valum: > - Inspired by sinatra.rb > - Allows lua scripting (more to come) > - Based on Soup for http parsing > Planned features: https://github.com/antono/valum/blob/master/TODO.md > Join the fun :) ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Web framework in Vala
On 12/08/2011 12:02 AM, Daniel Espinosa wrote: > May you want to use GDA[1] as your Database driver holder and use some > futures I'm developing in Vala for it. GDA and my resent additions in > libgda-vala branch, have full GIR/Typelib and Vala bindings to get > access from any language supporting GObject Introspction. Sure! GDA was considered as primary SQL adapter for Valum. > I want to create a GObject DataBase persistence framework and get some > functionalists equivalent to Python's Django framework. I plant to use > metadata information from database adquired by GDA to "navigate" > between objects with references and get others that depends on it, > like Django does, with the advantage to have Vala/C/GObject library > available to different languages. Really great idea. I came from Ruby on Rails world and some ORM is really must have for Valum. I know it will be hard implement every feature that implemented in dynamic languages as Python and Ruby... But anyway something less raw than connection needed here. > I also plan to develop a small cash management application using Vala Ony my small opinion, but GNUCash is awesome :) I use it and it has a lot of wisdom and knows about almost every edge case. Also it has very good documentation and manuals about personal finance management. Unfortanutley they do not use libgda but libgdi. > [1] http://www.gnome-db.org/ Thanks for the link, Daniel. I will look there next time i'll hack on Valium. > 2011/12/7 Antono Vasiljev : >> Hello, All. >> >> I've pushed v0.0.1 of web framework for vala - Valum. >> >> https://github.com/antono/valum >> >> Some features and ideas behind Valum: >> >> - Inspired by sinatra.rb >> - Allows lua scripting (more to come) >> - Based on Soup for http parsing >> >> Planned features: https://github.com/antono/valum/blob/master/TODO.md >> >> >> Join the fun :) >> >> -- >> antono signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] Web framework in Vala
May you want to use GDA[1] as your Database driver holder and use some futures I'm developing in Vala for it. GDA and my resent additions in libgda-vala branch, have full GIR/Typelib and Vala bindings to get access from any language supporting GObject Introspection. I want to create a GObject DataBase persistence framework and get some functionalists equivalent to Python's Django framework. I plant to use metadata information from database adquired by GDA to "navigate" between objects with references and get others that depends on it, like Django does, with the advantage to have Vala/C/GObject library available to different languages. I also plan to develop a small cash management application using Vala [1] http://www.gnome-db.org/ 2011/12/7 Antono Vasiljev : > Hello, All. > > I've pushed v0.0.1 of web framework for vala - Valum. > > https://github.com/antono/valum > > Some features and ideas behind Valum: > > - Inspired by sinatra.rb > - Allows lua scripting (more to come) > - Based on Soup for http parsing > > Planned features: https://github.com/antono/valum/blob/master/TODO.md > > > Join the fun :) > > -- > antono > > > ___ > vala-list mailing list > vala-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list > -- Trabajar, la mejor arma para tu superación "de grano en grano, se hace la arena" (R) (en trámite, pero para los cuates: LIBRE) ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
[Vala] Web framework in Vala
Hello, All. I've pushed v0.0.1 of web framework for vala - Valum. https://github.com/antono/valum Some features and ideas behind Valum: - Inspired by sinatra.rb - Allows lua scripting (more to come) - Based on Soup for http parsing Planned features: https://github.com/antono/valum/blob/master/TODO.md Join the fun :) -- antono signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] About Vala's IDE
Try Geany please. You might like it. Lightweight and fast. Good syntax highlighting. Nice code browser. Basic auto-completion and call tips. Active development. You must try Geany. On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Pigex.Zhang wrote: > Dear All: > > Is there has a plan with vala's professional IDE ?I tried some types of > tools(e.g anjuta monodeveop, valencia...). > > However, a problem more or less...(e.g project manage autocompletion > i18n automake debug...). > > I think that the goal of vala is efficiency for development, let it the > most efficient!!! > > At the end, sorry to my bad english. > > > ___ > vala-list mailing list > vala-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list > ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] vapigen can't find aliased type
On 12/07/2011 02:52 PM, Alberto Mardegan wrote: > Hi all, > I'm trying to generate Vala bindings for a GLib based library. I > recently added GObject introspection information to that library, and > here is the .gir file: I filed a bug about this, with a patch fixing the problem: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=665732 Ciao, Alberto ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
[Vala] CSV Parser
Hi there. Is there any CSV parser implementation? I've found one on github for sqlpilot project, but it doesn't build, and i don't know C that much to modify it =\ Thanks ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
[Vala] CSV Parser
Hi there. Is there any CSV parser implementation? I've found one on github for sqlpilot project, but it doesn't build, and i don't know C that much to modify it =\ Thanks ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
[Vala] vapigen can't find aliased type
Hi all, I'm trying to generate Vala bindings for a GLib based library. I recently added GObject introspection information to that library, and here is the .gir file: http://pastebin.com/76wcPHGj Unfortunately, the generation fails: == mardy@devel:/tmp$ vapigen --library Signon Signon-1.0.gir ** (vapigen:24519): CRITICAL **: vala_code_node_get_attribute_string: assertion `self != NULL' failed [...cut on many other critical warnings...] Signon-1.0.gir:478.79-478.79: error: The type name `IdentityReferenceAddedCb' could not be found c:type="SignonIdentityReferenceAddedCb"/> ^ Signon-1.0.gir:535.95-535.95: error: The type name `IdentityRemovedCb' could not be found ^ Signon-1.0.gir:557.83-557.83: error: The type name `IdentityReferenceRemovedCb' could not be found c:type="SignonIdentityReferenceRemovedCb"/> ^ Generation failed: 3 error(s), 0 warning(s) == Since I've just studied how GObject introspection works, it might as well be that the introspection data is not correct. However, the g-ir-scanner tool reported 0 warnings, so I have no clue on what could be wrong. You can see the code of the library here: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~webcredentials-team/opensesame-libsignon-glib/trunk/files/head:/libsignon-glib/ Could it be that vapigen doesn't support aliases of callbacks? (all of those 3 errors refer to callback function types) Ciao, Alberto ___ vala-list mailing list vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
