Re: [Vala] vala IDE on OSX

2011-08-22 Thread Alexandre Rosenfeld
Did you tried MonoDevelop? There is a version for OSX which should probably
work and MonoDevelop works really well with Vala.

As far as I know, Gtk on OSX is not really stable and I doubt any of the
Vala IDEs are regularly tested on OSX. Your best bet is probably to fix the
issues you find yourself.
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*Alexandre Rosenfeld*

On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 02:00, Serge Hulne serge.hu...@gmail.com wrote:

 I haven't managed to make a single graphical IDE for Vala work under Mac OS
 X.

 - Under Linux, I use a deprecated (*) version of vtg and valencia (two
 plugins for gedit)
 - Under Mac, I use vim + Vala plugin for Vim.

 The Vim plugin is fine, but it does not provide auto-completion (for
 methods, which translates into a serious waste of time).

 (*) Because the latest version will only work under Debian Sid (Debian
 unstable), which is I cannot use as a stable production system.
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Re: [Vala] vala IDE on OSX

2011-08-22 Thread Serge Hulne
I tried Monodevelop under Linux (Ubuntu 11.04).

Under Linux it does not seem very interesting, since it does not appear to
provide methods dot-complete.

Therefore I did not try it under Mac OS X.


   - Under Mac OS X my favourite Vala editor is Vim (I can use ctags-vala
   with it, which is not quite auto-complete, but it is the next best thing)
   - Under Ubuntu, I use gedit with the gtv, valencia, and word-complete
   plugings.


To go back the theme of gtk under Mac, It seems stable enough (if installed
via Mac Ports, which is a Debian-like  command-line package management
system), in the sense that gtk C code (for gtk-2) will compile.

It is stable enough to compile Vala itself in any case.


The real problem here appears to be that :

   - The plugins for Gedit use the latest versions of gtk-3, available only
   on Debian Sid.
   - Conservative versions of Linux (stable versions of Linux and Linux
   ports, MacPorts included) use far older versions of the gtk library.

Hence the discrepancy between the Gedit plugins and Mac OS X (or
conservative versions of Linux, Like Ubuntu 10.04 LTS).


Conclusion.

   - The latest version of the vtg plugin works ony under Debian unstable
   (not optimal).
   - Slightly more conservative of Linux, like Ubuntu 11.04 LTS can make use
   of some deprecated versions of vtg + Gedit.
   - Really stable versions of Linux, like Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (and also Mac OS
   X, for that matter) cannot use Gedit plugins for Vala.

 Serge.




On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:20 AM, Alexandre Rosenfeld 
alexandre.rosenf...@gmail.com wrote:
 Did you tried MonoDevelop? There is a version for OSX which should
probably
 work and MonoDevelop works really well with Vala.

 As far as I know, Gtk on OSX is not really stable and I doubt any of the
 Vala IDEs are regularly tested on OSX. Your best bet is probably to fix
the
 issues you find yourself.

 Alexandre Rosenfeld

 On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 02:00, Serge Hulne serge.hu...@gmail.com wrote:

 I haven't managed to make a single graphical IDE for Vala work under Mac
 OS X.

 - Under Linux, I use a deprecated (*) version of vtg and valencia (two
 plugins for gedit)
 - Under Mac, I use vim + Vala plugin for Vim.

 The Vim plugin is fine, but it does not provide auto-completion (for
 methods, which translates into a serious waste of time).

 (*) Because the latest version will only work under Debian Sid (Debian
 unstable), which is I cannot use as a stable production system.
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On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:20 AM, Alexandre Rosenfeld 
alexandre.rosenf...@gmail.com wrote:

 Did you tried MonoDevelop? There is a version for OSX which should probably
 work and MonoDevelop works really well with Vala.

 As far as I know, Gtk on OSX is not really stable and I doubt any of the
 Vala IDEs are regularly tested on OSX. Your best bet is probably to fix the
 issues you find yourself.
 *
 *
 *Alexandre Rosenfeld*

 On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 02:00, Serge Hulne serge.hu...@gmail.com wrote:

 I haven't managed to make a single graphical IDE for Vala work under Mac
 OS X.

 - Under Linux, I use a deprecated (*) version of vtg and valencia (two
 plugins for gedit)
 - Under Mac, I use vim + Vala plugin for Vim.

 The Vim plugin is fine, but it does not provide auto-completion (for
 methods, which translates into a serious waste of time).

 (*) Because the latest version will only work under Debian Sid (Debian
 unstable), which is I cannot use as a stable production system.
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[Vala] vala IDE on OSX

2011-08-21 Thread Serge Hulne
I haven't managed to make a single graphical IDE for Vala work under Mac OS X.

- Under Linux, I use a deprecated (*) version of vtg and valencia (two
plugins for gedit)
- Under Mac, I use vim + Vala plugin for Vim.

The Vim plugin is fine, but it does not provide auto-completion (for
methods, which translates into a serious waste of time).

(*) Because the latest version will only work under Debian Sid (Debian
unstable), which is I cannot use as a stable production system.
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