Re: [Vala] valaDevelop

[Wolfgang Mauer]

I know the meaning of opensource, that should only be a joke ... Sorry

Am 11.05.19 um 16:12 schrieb Jürg Billeter:

On Sat, 2019-05-11 at 12:33 +0200, Wolfgang Mauer wrote:

As other editors written in different languages i like to introduce
valaDevelop an IDE to develop application and library in vala
programming language:

It's OPENSOURCE and written in C (source available at
https://github.com/wolfgangmauer/valaDevelop/tree/master/src)

;-)

Please stop making false claims. valaDevelop is NOT open source (as
commonly understood) as the C code in that repository is not the source
code, it's an intermediate representation.

https://opensource.org/osd

Jürg


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Re: [Vala] valaDevelop

[Jürg Billeter]

On Sat, 2019-05-11 at 12:33 +0200, Wolfgang Mauer wrote:
> As other editors written in different languages i like to introduce 
> valaDevelop an IDE to develop application and library in vala 
> programming language:
> 
> It's OPENSOURCE and written in C (source available at 
> https://github.com/wolfgangmauer/valaDevelop/tree/master/src)
> 
> ;-)

Please stop making false claims. valaDevelop is NOT open source (as
commonly understood) as the C code in that repository is not the source
code, it's an intermediate representation.

https://opensource.org/osd

Jürg

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Re: [Vala] valaDevelop

[Dev_NIX via vala-list]

And this is exactly what I meant when I wrote "Just didn't saw the point of
so much activity on the mail list when I had a binary that just didn't run,
and a pile of messages with so humbleless attitude.".

My personal point is that I'm not willing to spend my time in a way that
people will not take any advantage of.

I have been following this mailing list silently and with a lot of interest
since time ago and as I said before, I wouldn't like to start here a flame
war. Just my two cents.


El sáb., 11 may. 2019 12:33, Wolfgang Mauer 
escribió:

> As other editors written in different languages i like to introduce
> valaDevelop an IDE to develop application and library in vala
> programming language:
>
> It's OPENSOURCE and written in C (source available at
> https://github.com/wolfgangmauer/valaDevelop/tree/master/src)
>
> ;-)
>
>
> Am 10.05.19 um 21:42 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> >
> > On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 8:06 AM Wolfgang Mauer
> > mailto:wolfgang.ma...@kabelmail.de>>
> wrote:
> >
> > I think(hope) it's not just because it's not open source...
> >
> >
> > It is because it's not open source.
> >
> > Best regards.
> > --
> > Dr. Canek Peláez Valdés
> > Profesor de Carrera Asociado C
> > Departamento de Matemáticas
> > Facultad de Ciencias
> > Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
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Re: [Vala] valaDevelop

[Wolfgang Mauer]

As other editors written in different languages i like to introduce 
valaDevelop an IDE to develop application and library in vala 
programming language:


It's OPENSOURCE and written in C (source available at 
https://github.com/wolfgangmauer/valaDevelop/tree/master/src)


;-)


Am 10.05.19 um 21:42 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:


On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 8:06 AM Wolfgang Mauer 
mailto:wolfgang.ma...@kabelmail.de>> wrote:


I think(hope) it's not just because it's not open source...


It is because it's not open source.

Best regards.
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Re: [Vala] valaDevelop

[Wolfgang Mauer]

> My personal experience was that I tried to run it on my Elementary 4.1
Dependency say -> Elementary >= 5.0
With Elementary>= 5 valaDevelop runs out of the box...

> If you had no plans of making money with
Definitely not!

In the case of having the source code I would even could tried to 

compile downgrading the GTK version without losing features
I understand, but even i you have the source it would not work in order 
of other dependencies(you can try meson build with the C source)


> That's where immediately went back to Sublime Text.
As a developer, I used editors and tools 30 years ago, I did not believe 
that this is always the case.



And if you file a issue, to let me know you have a problem, i may be 
able to make valaDevelop run on Elementray 4.1




Am 11.05.19 um 08:27 schrieb Dev_NIX:
I feel like Canek, but I have to give all my kudos to Rastersoft. 
There are not much documented Vala source samples around there and 
each example helps people to get used to the language. I can 
understand the corporate background, but the companies relays in one 
way or another on open source software. If you had no plans of making 
money with (Yet Another) IDE, I don't see the point of not open 
sourcing it.


My personal experience was that I tried to run it on my Elementary 4.1 
box (not so old, I guess!) and I had a GTK dependency problem that I 
could not fix. That's where immediately went back to Sublime Text.


In the case of having the source code I would even could tried to 
compile downgrading the GTK version without losing features, or even 
baking an appimage. Just didn't saw the point of so much activity on 
the mail list when I had a binary that just didn't run, and a pile of 
messages with so humbleless attitude. I don't want this to be 
interpreted as a flame, but a constructive point of view that may help 
you in future projects (or maybe even still this one).


Kind regards.

El vie., 10 may. 2019 21:42, Canek Peláez Valdés via vala-list 
mailto:vala-list@gnome.org>> escribió:


On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 8:06 AM Wolfgang Mauer
mailto:wolfgang.ma...@kabelmail.de>>
wrote:

> I think(hope) it's not just because it's not open source...
>

It is because it's not open source.

Best regards.
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Re: [Vala] valaDevelop

[Dev_NIX via vala-list]

I feel like Canek, but I have to give all my kudos to Rastersoft. There are
not much documented Vala source samples around there and each example helps
people to get used to the language. I can understand the corporate
background, but the companies relays in one way or another on open source
software. If you had no plans of making money with (Yet Another) IDE, I
don't see the point of not open sourcing it.

My personal experience was that I tried to run it on my Elementary 4.1 box
(not so old, I guess!) and I had a GTK dependency problem that I could not
fix. That's where immediately went back to Sublime Text.

In the case of having the source code I would even could tried to compile
downgrading the GTK version without losing features, or even baking an
appimage. Just didn't saw the point of so much activity on the mail list
when I had a binary that just didn't run, and a pile of messages with so
humbleless attitude. I don't want this to be interpreted as a flame, but a
constructive point of view that may help you in future projects (or maybe
even still this one).

Kind regards.

El vie., 10 may. 2019 21:42, Canek Peláez Valdés via vala-list <
vala-list@gnome.org> escribió:

> On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 8:06 AM Wolfgang Mauer <
> wolfgang.ma...@kabelmail.de>
> wrote:
>
> > I think(hope) it's not just because it's not open source...
> >
>
> It is because it's not open source.
>
> Best regards.
> --
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> Profesor de Carrera Asociado C
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> Facultad de Ciencias
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Re: [Vala] valaDevelop

[Canek Peláez Valdés via vala-list]

On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 8:06 AM Wolfgang Mauer 
wrote:

> I think(hope) it's not just because it's not open source...
>

It is because it's not open source.

Best regards.
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Re: [Vala] valaDevelop

[Jonathan Moerman via vala-list]

For me valaIDE didn't really solve any problems I had. What I would like is
a stable (so no Gnome Builder, that one is really crash prone with Vala
projects.) IDE with error checking, autocomplete and support for cmake
(preferably not tied to any build system). The closest I've gotten to a
good development environment is gedit + valencia (vala autocomplete)
(Though I consider the interface of modern gedit to be a bit of trainwreck).

For any previous IDE it was pretty much the same story, I lose more
functionality than I get by using the IDE, so I stop using the IDE
immediately. (And the previous IDEs were often quite buggy.)

I don't think it is a good idea to build a IDE specialized in Vala
development as the community is far too small and will likely stay that way.
It would probably be better to make a language server implementation for
Vala.

Because of all of this I don't really get excited when someone makes a new
IDE. And, yes, the IDE not being open source didn't help, but it certainly
wasn't the only reason.

With fright I had to realize that all these OPENSOURCE projects no
> longer work with modern systems.
> No one has enhanced or fixed something, even though it's open source!
>

Well if the IDE wasn't worth using why work on fixing them? Getting these
IDEs in what I consider a good shape would also have taken too much effort.
More effort than it would take me to just write/improve a plugin for a text
editor like gedit. (Not that I really have had the time to do that besides
some small fixes.)

 Jonathan Moerman


Op vr 10 mei 2019 om 17:33 schreef Wolfgang Mauer <
wolfgang.ma...@kabelmail.de>:

> Maybe a bit cynical:Idon't blame others 
>
> When I became aware of vala last year, I was looking for an IDE and
> found valaIDE and valama and others.
> With fright I had to realize that all these OPENSOURCE projects no
> longer work with modern systems.
> No one has enhanced or fixed something, even though it's open source!
>
>
> That's why I decided against opensource, so that's not the case with my
> IDE, which was first written in C# by the way.
>
>
> I did not expect that it comes to such a rejection.
> I had rather expected that I get applause for a working IDE.
> But, it always comes differently than you think...
>
>
>
> Am 10.05.19 um 16:07 schrieb rastersoft:
>
> > I'm afraid that I have to disagree with you: you didn't provide any
> > kind of source code. Yes, you published the generated .c files, but
> > those aren't the source code, I can't use that to fix a bug or add new
> > features (well, I can try, but doing that would be nearly as hard as
> > fixing a binary executable with a disassembler and an hexadecimal
> > editor). So those "source files" are completely useless.
> >
> > Also, I think that the problem IS that it wasn't open source, and your
> > depart shows precisely why: the only person with access to the source
> > code leaves the project and it dies, leaving all the current users
> > with just a binary that can't be enhanced or fixed, and that sooner or
> > later will stop working on modern systems. I lived this several times,
> > and that's why I decided to not use valadevelop. Yes, I tested it and
> > it was good, but I didn't want to be left again trapped with a dead
> > project.
> >
> > Of course, it is your code and you are the only one with the right to
> > decide what to do with it; but if you make a decision, don't blame
> > others.
> >
> > El 10/5/19 a las 15:35, Wolfgang Mauer escribió:
> >> I'm sorry, maybe it's because I work in a big software company and
> >> get paid for my development, so the "spirit" of open source
> >>
> >> If the source I provided is not enough, you'll probably have to
> >> continue hoping/waiting for better IDE.
> >>
> >>
> >> Am 10.05.19 um 15:18 schrieb Luca Dionisi via vala-list:
> >>> +1
> >>> I use Gnome Builder, but I am always in search of better free software
> >>> alternatives.
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 3:17 PM Dr. Michael Lauer
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>
>  Well, I can imagine that it would have generated more feedback if
>  it was
>  developed
>  in the open. Most (of the few) Vala developers have strong roots in
>  open
>  source and
>  – although not as comfortable as ValaDevelop – there are
>  „alternatives"
>  out there which
>  are completely open.
> 
>  That said, Wolfgang, if you no longer want to work on it, why not
>  free it
>  at last and upload
>  the source?
> 
>  Best regards for the future,
> 
>  :M:
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Re: [Vala] valaDevelop

[Wolfgang Mauer]

It's not my intention to blame anyone!!!

Ok, with the C-Source you are right...


leaving all the current users with just a binary

If there some, i will never leave my project! BUT WHERE ARE THEY?

> I can't use that to fix a bug or add new features
No issues reported


Am 10.05.19 um 16:07 schrieb rastersoft:
I'm afraid that I have to disagree with you: you didn't provide any 
kind of source code. Yes, you published the generated .c files, but 
those aren't the source code, I can't use that to fix a bug or add new 
features (well, I can try, but doing that would be nearly as hard as 
fixing a binary executable with a disassembler and an hexadecimal 
editor). So those "source files" are completely useless.


Also, I think that the problem IS that it wasn't open source, and your 
depart shows precisely why: the only person with access to the source 
code leaves the project and it dies, leaving all the current users 
with just a binary that can't be enhanced or fixed, and that sooner or 
later will stop working on modern systems. I lived this several times, 
and that's why I decided to not use valadevelop. Yes, I tested it and 
it was good, but I didn't want to be left again trapped with a dead 
project.


Of course, it is your code and you are the only one with the right to 
decide what to do with it; but if you make a decision, don't blame 
others.


El 10/5/19 a las 15:35, Wolfgang Mauer escribió:
I'm sorry, maybe it's because I work in a big software company and 
get paid for my development, so the "spirit" of open source


If the source I provided is not enough, you'll probably have to 
continue hoping/waiting for better IDE.



Am 10.05.19 um 15:18 schrieb Luca Dionisi via vala-list:

+1
I use Gnome Builder, but I am always in search of better free software
alternatives.

On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 3:17 PM Dr. Michael Lauer 
 wrote:


Well, I can imagine that it would have generated more feedback if 
it was

developed
in the open. Most (of the few) Vala developers have strong roots in 
open

source and
– although not as comfortable as ValaDevelop – there are 
„alternatives"

out there which
are completely open.

That said, Wolfgang, if you no longer want to work on it, why not 
free it

at last and upload
the source?

Best regards for the future,

:M:

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Re: [Vala] valaDevelop

[rastersoft]

I'm afraid that I have to disagree with you: you didn't provide any kind 
of source code. Yes, you published the generated .c files, but those 
aren't the source code, I can't use that to fix a bug or add new 
features (well, I can try, but doing that would be nearly as hard as 
fixing a binary executable with a disassembler and an hexadecimal 
editor). So those "source files" are completely useless.


Also, I think that the problem IS that it wasn't open source, and your 
depart shows precisely why: the only person with access to the source 
code leaves the project and it dies, leaving all the current users with 
just a binary that can't be enhanced or fixed, and that sooner or later 
will stop working on modern systems. I lived this several times, and 
that's why I decided to not use valadevelop. Yes, I tested it and it was 
good, but I didn't want to be left again trapped with a dead project.


Of course, it is your code and you are the only one with the right to 
decide what to do with it; but if you make a decision, don't blame others.


El 10/5/19 a las 15:35, Wolfgang Mauer escribió:
I'm sorry, maybe it's because I work in a big software company and get 
paid for my development, so the "spirit" of open source


If the source I provided is not enough, you'll probably have to 
continue hoping/waiting for better IDE.



Am 10.05.19 um 15:18 schrieb Luca Dionisi via vala-list:

+1
I use Gnome Builder, but I am always in search of better free software
alternatives.

On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 3:17 PM Dr. Michael Lauer  
wrote:


Well, I can imagine that it would have generated more feedback if it 
was

developed
in the open. Most (of the few) Vala developers have strong roots in 
open

source and
– although not as comfortable as ValaDevelop – there are „alternatives"
out there which
are completely open.

That said, Wolfgang, if you no longer want to work on it, why not 
free it

at last and upload
the source?

Best regards for the future,

:M:

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Re: [Vala] valaDevelop

[Wolfgang Mauer]

I'm sorry, maybe it's because I work in a big software company and get 
paid for my development, so the "spirit" of open source


If the source I provided is not enough, you'll probably have to continue 
hoping/waiting for better IDE.



Am 10.05.19 um 15:18 schrieb Luca Dionisi via vala-list:

+1
I use Gnome Builder, but I am always in search of better free software
alternatives.

On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 3:17 PM Dr. Michael Lauer  wrote:


Well, I can imagine that it would have generated more feedback if it was
developed
in the open. Most (of the few) Vala developers have strong roots in open
source and
– although not as comfortable as ValaDevelop – there are „alternatives"
out there which
are completely open.

That said, Wolfgang, if you no longer want to work on it, why not free it
at last and upload
the source?

Best regards for the future,

:M:

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Re: [Vala] valaDevelop

[Dr. Michael Lauer]

Well, I can imagine that it would have generated more feedback if it was 
developed
in the open. Most (of the few) Vala developers have strong roots in open source 
and
– although not as comfortable as ValaDevelop – there are „alternatives" out 
there which
are completely open.

That said, Wolfgang, if you no longer want to work on it, why not free it at 
last and upload
the source?

Best regards for the future,

:M:

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Re: [Vala] valaDevelop

[Luca Dionisi via vala-list]

+1
I use Gnome Builder, but I am always in search of better free software
alternatives.

On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 3:17 PM Dr. Michael Lauer  wrote:

> Well, I can imagine that it would have generated more feedback if it was
> developed
> in the open. Most (of the few) Vala developers have strong roots in open
> source and
> – although not as comfortable as ValaDevelop – there are „alternatives"
> out there which
> are completely open.
>
> That said, Wolfgang, if you no longer want to work on it, why not free it
> at last and upload
> the source?
>
> Best regards for the future,
>
> :M:
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Re: [Vala] valaDevelop

[Wolfgang Mauer]

I think(hope) it's not just because it's not open source...

IMHO, it's more like 3D TV, I think that's great, but there are not 
enough interested




Am 10.05.19 um 13:58 schrieb Al Thomas via vala-list:

> On Friday, 10 May 2019, 12:28:26 BST, Wolfgang Mauer 
 wrote: > due to low interest/feedback I will give up 
the development of

valaDevelop and dedicate myself to mono/C# again...

For anyone thinking of developing a project this has been a valuablecase study 
in the advantages of free/open source licensing.
valaDevelop has gathered ten stars, four watchers and one fork on GitHubin the 
eleven weeks since it was announced - 
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/vala-list/2019-February/msg00032.htmlbut now 
the developer has decided to move on there is a binary blob leftthat will 
slowly go stale.
Most Vala projects appear to be free software/open source so I think most 
peopleon this list understand the advantages and that includes forking dead 
projects.

Best wishes Wolfgang with your future projects.

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Re: [Vala] valaDevelop

[Al Thomas via vala-list]

   > On Friday, 10 May 2019, 12:28:26 BST, Wolfgang Mauer 
 wrote: > due to low interest/feedback I will give 
up the development of 
> valaDevelop and dedicate myself to mono/C# again...

For anyone thinking of developing a project this has been a valuablecase study 
in the advantages of free/open source licensing.
valaDevelop has gathered ten stars, four watchers and one fork on GitHubin the 
eleven weeks since it was announced - 
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/vala-list/2019-February/msg00032.htmlbut now 
the developer has decided to move on there is a binary blob leftthat will 
slowly go stale.
Most Vala projects appear to be free software/open source so I think most 
peopleon this list understand the advantages and that includes forking dead 
projects.

Best wishes Wolfgang with your future projects.

Al
 
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[Vala] valaDevelop

[Wolfgang Mauer]

Hi all,
due to low interest/feedback I will give up the development of 
valaDevelop and dedicate myself to mono/C# again...


By
Wolfgang

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[Vala] valaDevelop

[Wolfgang Mauer]

Hi all,
as not to hinder the developer during the editing of the source, all 
libvala parsing/analysis/etc. must be redesigned and moved to background 
threads.


So that a new version takes a while...


Nice Day
Wolfgang


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[Vala] valaDevelop

[Wolfgang Mauer]

Hi all,
there are thousands of views and a lot of clones(direct downloads not 
counted) from the valaDevelop/github.


But there is not a single issue

If you have problems, suggestions, questions or comments, please do not 
hesitate to contact me.



Thanks

Wolfgang

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[Vala] valaDevelop

[Wolfgang Mauer]

For better support of the standard it is now possible to select the 
schema of the sourceview



Greetings
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Re: [Vala] valaDevelop release

[Wolfgang Mauer]

For performance/feature reasons, 
this(https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/vala/tree/wip/fast-vapi/vala) vala 
version must be used.



Am 31.03.19 um 22:50 schrieb Wolfgang Mauer:
With pride I can now introduce further innovations within valaDevelop 
and the 1. stable release!




As described on 
https://wiki.gnome.org/action/logout/Projects/Vala/Tools valaDevelop 
now hasBasic "*Code Formatting*"


As you write code, ending with a curly bracket, the code will be 
formatted.


This runs very quickly, so if you don't see any changes, your source 
was Ok before.
To restart Code formatting just remove a existing curly bracket on any 
parenthesized and type curly bracket again.


FOR SAFETY, _NO CHANGES WILL BE MADE TO YOUR WRITTEN SOURCE CODE_, 
ONLY LEADING WHITE SPACES WILL BE REMOVING THE TABS ARE INSERTED!!!




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[Vala] valaDevelop release

[Wolfgang Mauer]

With pride I can now introduce further innovations within valaDevelop 
and the 1. stable release!




As described on https://wiki.gnome.org/action/logout/Projects/Vala/Tools 
valaDevelop now hasBasic "*Code Formatting*"


As you write code, ending with a curly bracket, the code will be formatted.

This runs very quickly, so if you don't see any changes, your source was 
Ok before.
To restart Code formatting just remove a existing curly bracket on any 
parenthesized and type curly bracket again.


FOR SAFETY, _NO CHANGES WILL BE MADE TO YOUR WRITTEN SOURCE CODE_, ONLY 
LEADING WHITE SPACES WILL BE REMOVING THE TABS ARE INSERTED!!!




As always, you can also look at the pictures 
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Re: [Vala] valaDevelop

[Jonathan Moerman via vala-list]

Wolfgang was using the MIT license before the C code was uploaded so if the
MIT license certainly won't be any *less* valid/applicable.
The generated C source code also makes it at least doable to introduce
fixes and small improvements, should this be necessary. (And compiling the
software on other architectures is now also possible of course.)
I don't see why uploading the generated code over the Vala code is
preferred, but that isn't a choice for me to make.

 Jonathan Moerman


Op wo 27 mrt. 2019 om 13:12 schreef Wolfgang Mauer <
wolfgang.ma...@kabelmail.de>:

> Sounds like you're a lawyer ;-)
>
> I just want to offer an easy IDE for Vala developers and those coming
> from C#.
> If there any problems with the license or anything else i just stop
> publishing and keep private...
>
> /
> Wolfgang
>
>
> Am 27.03.19 um 12:59 schrieb Luca Dionisi:
> >> Yes, sure. I was wrong, no problem for the use of the LGPL-licensed
> >> libvala.
> >> I am not sure, instead, that this work could be defined as
> >> MIT-licensed. I mean, in the spirit of free-software (and MIT license
> >> is a free-software license) users should be able to study and modify
> >> the code. I don't think that can be done with generated C code.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 12:51 PM Wolfgang Mauer
> >> mailto:wolfgang.ma...@kabelmail.de>>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> From my understanding, the user must be able to use a
> >> modified/fixed/own version of the static lib, and he can..
> >>
> >> In addition you do not have to link the libvala statically, you
> >> can build it now used as a shared one...
> >>
> >> Am 27.03.19 um 12:39 schrieb Luca Dionisi:
> >>> IANAL, but does providing generated C source code suffice to
> >>> meet the LGPL requirements?
> >>> I wouldn't say so. Just my 2 cents.
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 12:16 PM Wolfgang Mauer
> >>>  >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Now source is available at
> >>> https://github.com/wolfgangmauer/valaDevelop/tree/master/src
> >>>
> >>> The source is the same as used for building the binary, so
> >>> if you want
> >>> to build it yourself...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Wolfgang
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Am 27.03.19 um 08:37 schrieb Wolfgang Mauer:
> >>> > In order not to violate the LGPL of libvala and static
> >>> linking, i
> >>> > decided to provide the source code in addition to the binary.
> >>> >
> >>> > If someone wants to build valaDevelop himself, he can do it.
> >>> > i will update the git soon...
> >>> >
> >>> > Greetings
> >>> > Wolfgang
> >>> >
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Re: [Vala] valaDevelop

[Wolfgang Mauer]

Sounds like you're a lawyer ;-)

I just want to offer an easy IDE for Vala developers and those coming 
from C#.
If there any problems with the license or anything else i just stop 
publishing and keep private...


/
Wolfgang


Am 27.03.19 um 12:59 schrieb Luca Dionisi:
Yes, sure. I was wrong, no problem for the use of the LGPL-licensed 
libvala.
I am not sure, instead, that this work could be defined as 
MIT-licensed. I mean, in the spirit of free-software (and MIT license 
is a free-software license) users should be able to study and modify 
the code. I don't think that can be done with generated C code.



On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 12:51 PM Wolfgang Mauer 
mailto:wolfgang.ma...@kabelmail.de>> wrote:


From my understanding, the user must be able to use a
modified/fixed/own version of the static lib, and he can..

In addition you do not have to link the libvala statically, you
can build it now used as a shared one...

Am 27.03.19 um 12:39 schrieb Luca Dionisi:

IANAL, but does providing generated C source code suffice to
meet the LGPL requirements?
I wouldn't say so. Just my 2 cents.

On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 12:16 PM Wolfgang Mauer
mailto:wolfgang.ma...@kabelmail.de>> wrote:

Now source is available at
https://github.com/wolfgangmauer/valaDevelop/tree/master/src

The source is the same as used for building the binary, so
if you want
to build it yourself...


Wolfgang


Am 27.03.19 um 08:37 schrieb Wolfgang Mauer:
> In order not to violate the LGPL of libvala and static
linking, i
> decided to provide the source code in addition to the binary.
>
> If someone wants to build valaDevelop himself, he can do it.
> i will update the git soon...
>
> Greetings
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Re: [Vala] valaDevelop

[Wolfgang Mauer]

From my understanding, the user must be able to use a 
modified/fixed/own version of the static lib, and he can..


In addition you do not have to link the libvala statically, you can 
build it now used as a shared one...


Am 27.03.19 um 12:39 schrieb Luca Dionisi:
IANAL, but does providing generated C source code suffice to meet the 
LGPL requirements?

I wouldn't say so. Just my 2 cents.

On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 12:16 PM Wolfgang Mauer 
mailto:wolfgang.ma...@kabelmail.de>> wrote:


Now source is available at
https://github.com/wolfgangmauer/valaDevelop/tree/master/src

The source is the same as used for building the binary, so if you
want
to build it yourself...


Wolfgang


Am 27.03.19 um 08:37 schrieb Wolfgang Mauer:
> In order not to violate the LGPL of libvala and static linking, i
> decided to provide the source code in addition to the binary.
>
> If someone wants to build valaDevelop himself, he can do it.
> i will update the git soon...
>
> Greetings
> Wolfgang
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Re: [Vala] valaDevelop

[Luca Dionisi via vala-list]

IANAL, but does providing generated C source code suffice to meet the LGPL
requirements?
I wouldn't say so. Just my 2 cents.

On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 12:16 PM Wolfgang Mauer 
wrote:

> Now source is available at
> https://github.com/wolfgangmauer/valaDevelop/tree/master/src
>
> The source is the same as used for building the binary, so if you want
> to build it yourself...
>
>
> Wolfgang
>
>
> Am 27.03.19 um 08:37 schrieb Wolfgang Mauer:
> > In order not to violate the LGPL of libvala and static linking, i
> > decided to provide the source code in addition to the binary.
> >
> > If someone wants to build valaDevelop himself, he can do it.
> > i will update the git soon...
> >
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Re: [Vala] valaDevelop

[Wolfgang Mauer]

Now source is available at 
https://github.com/wolfgangmauer/valaDevelop/tree/master/src


The source is the same as used for building the binary, so if you want 
to build it yourself...



Wolfgang


Am 27.03.19 um 08:37 schrieb Wolfgang Mauer:
In order not to violate the LGPL of libvala and static linking, i 
decided to provide the source code in addition to the binary.


If someone wants to build valaDevelop himself, he can do it.
i will update the git soon...

Greetings
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[Vala] valaDevelop

[Wolfgang Mauer]

Because of multiple requests, here now the additional functionality 
"source code folding"


Now everything between
#if REGION
and
#endif

will be set to hidden, the keywords "#if REGION" and the matching 
"#endif" will be marked as read only(collapsed REGION's cannot be 
changed!), if collapse.



These Keywords must not have any leading or ending white spaces!!!

By default, if you open a source file all REGION's will be collapsed.


FOR SAFETY, NO CHANGES WILL BE MADE TO THE SOURCE CODE WHEN EXPANDING OR 
COLLAPSE THE REGIONS!!!




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[Vala] valaDevelop

[Wolfgang Mauer]

Because there are already requests, I want to implement the possibility 
of "REGIONS"...


The whole thing should look something like this: On build and analyse a 
fixed define is internally added(--define=REGION)


if you execute the toggle-folding-command in editor everything inside 
the "#if REGION" and "#endif" will be hidden and replaced by something 
like "[... REGION]"


Does anyone here see a problem using this fixed define ?


#if REGION
breakPointRenderer.del_breakpoint.connect( (e) =>
            {
((Gtk.ListStore)breakPoints.model).@foreach( (model, path, iter) =>
                {
                    Value line, file;
model.get_value(iter, 2, out line);
model.get_value(iter, 3, out file);
                    if ((int)line == e+1 && (string)file == fullPath)
                    {
((Gtk.ListStore)breakPoints.model).remove(ref iter);
                        if (_debugger != null)
_debugger.del_breakpoint((int)line, (string)file);
del_breakpoint_from_solution((int)line, (string)file);
                        return true;
                    }
                    return false;
                });
            });
#endif


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Re: [Vala] valaDevelop

[rastersoft]

Yes, it allows static linking as long as you provide, at least, the 
object files to allow the user to link the program with newer versions 
of the library.


El 23/3/19 a las 0:38, Nor Jaidi Tuah escribió:

Remember that libvala is distributed under LGPL license, so although
you
can link it dinamically without problems with any code, free or
privative, if you do it statically you must allow the users to
recompile
it against any version, which means to distribute the source code or,
at
least, the object files.

LGPL allows static LINKING with non-free software.

However, if you CHANGE libvala itself then you must distribute
the source code for the changes to libvala.

Nice day
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[Vala] valaDevelop

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If anyone has suggestions for improvement, please use the issues on github
https://github.com/wolfgangmauer/valaDevelop/issues If someone does not 
want to post in this list can also send me a PM I would be very happy 
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Re: [Vala] valaDevelop

[Vivien Kraus]

Hello,

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that if you compile it statically, 
it is the same thing as if you change it:
the user cannot fix a bug in libvala and use the modified version instead, for 
instance.

Vivien

Le samedi 23 mars 2019 à 11:00 +0100, Wolfgang Mauer a écrit :
> Thanks for the hint, i do not want to change libvala(that's beyond my 
> abilities), i am only interested in using a static libvala version and 
> not one that is installed on the system... Greetings Wolfgang
> 
> Am 23.03.19 um 00:38 schrieb Nor Jaidi Tuah:
> > > Remember that libvala is distributed under LGPL license, so although
> > > you
> > > can link it dinamically without problems with any code, free or
> > > privative, if you do it statically you must allow the users to
> > > recompile
> > > it against any version, which means to distribute the source code or,
> > > at
> > > least, the object files.
> > LGPL allows static LINKING with non-free software.
> > 
> > However, if you CHANGE libvala itself then you must distribute
> > the source code for the changes to libvala.
> > 
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Re: [Vala] valaDevelop

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Thanks for the hint, i do not want to change libvala(that's beyond my 
abilities), i am only interested in using a static libvala version and 
not one that is installed on the system... Greetings Wolfgang


Am 23.03.19 um 00:38 schrieb Nor Jaidi Tuah:

Remember that libvala is distributed under LGPL license, so although
you
can link it dinamically without problems with any code, free or
privative, if you do it statically you must allow the users to
recompile
it against any version, which means to distribute the source code or,
at
least, the object files.

LGPL allows static LINKING with non-free software.

However, if you CHANGE libvala itself then you must distribute
the source code for the changes to libvala.

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>
> Remember that libvala is distributed under LGPL license, so although
> you
> can link it dinamically without problems with any code, free or
> privative, if you do it statically you must allow the users to
> recompile
> it against any version, which means to distribute the source code or,
> at
> least, the object files.

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[Vala] valaDevelop

[Wolfgang Mauer]

Rapid Application Development (RAD)

With pride I can now introduce further innovations within valaDevelop.

As announced, the functionalities for "Jump to Definition" and "Static 
Code Analysis" have now been completed.


"Jump to Definition" (F12)is possible over the whole word under the 
cursor or(if available) an existing selection.


"Static Code Analysis" will be performed automatically after the build 
and marked in the editor with underlined(red on error/yellow on warning) 
and tooltip.



@Guillaume Poirier-Morency Please update the wiki


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Re: [Vala] valaDevelop

[Wolfgang Mauer]

Remember that libvala is distributed under LGPL license


Ok, thanks for the info, I'll keep that in mind


Am 22.03.19 um 08:57 schrieb rastersoft:

Hi Wolfgang:

Remember that libvala is distributed under LGPL license, so although 
you can link it dinamically without problems with any code, free or 
privative, if you do it statically you must allow the users to 
recompile it against any version, which means to distribute the source 
code or, at least, the object files.


El 22/3/19 a las 0:41, Wolfgang Mauer escribió:
Yes, i use libvala for Symbol Resolving, Jump to Definition, Code 
Analyses  and Completion(not finish yet)


Maybe i have to link libvala static for some reasons, all the 
different distributions and everyone have different versions of 
libvala ...


I use pure glib-compile-resources/valac for building the project


Greetings

Wolfgang


Am 20.03.19 um 18:21 schrieb Guillaume Poirier-Morency:

I'm curious. Are you using libvala for providing these features?

Le mar. 19 mars 2019, à 19 h 17, Wolfgang Mauer 
mailto:wolfgang.ma...@kabelmail.de>> a 
écrit :


    It would be nice if you can update the Wiki.

    The feature "*Jump to Definition*" is now available with 
valaDevelop



    Thanks a lot

    Wolfgang


    Am 11.03.19 um 04:30 schrieb Guillaume Poirier-Morency:

    I just added the entry in the Wiki.

    Le dim. 10 mars 2019, à 10 h 17, Wolfgang Mauer
    mailto:wolfgang.ma...@kabelmail.de>> a écrit :

    Implemented so far...


    Solution/Project-management (including resources/packages)
    Syntax-Highlight (GtkSourceView-3) search/replace/etc.)
    Integrated Build, Test and Debug
        -> Integrated Debugging with full symbol resolving
    support (only vala source, no .c files necessary, no
    --save-temps)
        -> Integrated Build (raw output available)


    Greetings

    Wolfgang

    PS: Please, please, please... Don't call it Editor ;-)


    Am 05.03.19 um 15:30 schrieb Guillaume Poirier-Morency:
    Just a suggestion: you should setup a simple GitHub page 
from the
    repository and ship sources as assets in empty releases if 
you don't

    intend to distribute the source code.

    I'm not a big fan of freeware, but since we already 
display IDE like
    IntelliJ and TextMate, I think it's fine to put your work 
as well.


    What features are implemented so far?

    Le lundi 04 mars 2019 à 19:28 +0100, Wolfgang Mauer a écrit :

    Thanks for the attention!

    I hope I can answer correctly to your satisfaction.

    Some of the features are not fully implemented yet.

    Well, as the name suggests, everything is integrated.
    Solution/Project-management (one solution, many projects)
    Syntax-Highlight
    Jump to Declaration (sourcecode/valadoc)
    Debugging (only vala source, no .c files necessary, no 
--save-temps)

    Building
    Auto-Completion
    Symbol Resolving, debug and edit mode by Tool tip
    Git integration
    There are no additional tools such as 
make/meson/ninja/etc. required.

    The only one is the vala-compiler (valac).

    Upon completion, all features that comprise each tool 
should be

    available in one.

    You can see some of the early screenshots here
    https://github.com/wolfgangmauer/valaDevelop

    Greetings
    Wolfgang
    PS. Also a macOS - Version will be available


    Am 04.03.19 um 18:40 schrieb Guillaume Poirier-Morency:

    What features are supported by your IDE?

    Le dim. 3 mars 2019, à 05 h 47, Wolfgang Mauer <
    wolfgang.ma...@kabelmail.de 
> a écrit :

    Hi,

    it would be nice if you update the
    "https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Vala/Tools; 
 /
"https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Vala/ValaForCSharpProgrammers; 


    and add
    my IDE (https://github.com/wolfgangmauer/valaDevelop)


    Greetings

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    Chercheur à l'Institut de recherche en immunologie et en 
cancérologie


    *Page Web:* arteymix.github.io 
   

Re: [Vala] valaDevelop

[rastersoft]

Hi Wolfgang:

Remember that libvala is distributed under LGPL license, so although you 
can link it dinamically without problems with any code, free or 
privative, if you do it statically you must allow the users to recompile 
it against any version, which means to distribute the source code or, at 
least, the object files.


El 22/3/19 a las 0:41, Wolfgang Mauer escribió:
Yes, i use libvala for Symbol Resolving, Jump to Definition, Code 
Analyses  and Completion(not finish yet)


Maybe i have to link libvala static for some reasons, all the 
different distributions and everyone have different versions of 
libvala ...


I use pure glib-compile-resources/valac for building the project


Greetings

Wolfgang


Am 20.03.19 um 18:21 schrieb Guillaume Poirier-Morency:

I'm curious. Are you using libvala for providing these features?

Le mar. 19 mars 2019, à 19 h 17, Wolfgang Mauer 
mailto:wolfgang.ma...@kabelmail.de>> a 
écrit :


    It would be nice if you can update the Wiki.

    The feature "*Jump to Definition*" is now available with valaDevelop


    Thanks a lot

    Wolfgang


    Am 11.03.19 um 04:30 schrieb Guillaume Poirier-Morency:

    I just added the entry in the Wiki.

    Le dim. 10 mars 2019, à 10 h 17, Wolfgang Mauer
    mailto:wolfgang.ma...@kabelmail.de>> a écrit :

    Implemented so far...


    Solution/Project-management (including resources/packages)
    Syntax-Highlight (GtkSourceView-3) search/replace/etc.)
    Integrated Build, Test and Debug
        -> Integrated Debugging with full symbol resolving
    support (only vala source, no .c files necessary, no
    --save-temps)
        -> Integrated Build (raw output available)


    Greetings

    Wolfgang

    PS: Please, please, please... Don't call it Editor ;-)


    Am 05.03.19 um 15:30 schrieb Guillaume Poirier-Morency:
    Just a suggestion: you should setup a simple GitHub page 
from the
    repository and ship sources as assets in empty releases if 
you don't

    intend to distribute the source code.

    I'm not a big fan of freeware, but since we already display 
IDE like
    IntelliJ and TextMate, I think it's fine to put your work 
as well.


    What features are implemented so far?

    Le lundi 04 mars 2019 à 19:28 +0100, Wolfgang Mauer a écrit :

    Thanks for the attention!

    I hope I can answer correctly to your satisfaction.

    Some of the features are not fully implemented yet.

    Well, as the name suggests, everything is integrated.
    Solution/Project-management (one solution, many projects)
    Syntax-Highlight
    Jump to Declaration (sourcecode/valadoc)
    Debugging (only vala source, no .c files necessary, no 
--save-temps)

    Building
    Auto-Completion
    Symbol Resolving, debug and edit mode by Tool tip
    Git integration
    There are no additional tools such as 
make/meson/ninja/etc. required.

    The only one is the vala-compiler (valac).

    Upon completion, all features that comprise each tool 
should be

    available in one.

    You can see some of the early screenshots here
    https://github.com/wolfgangmauer/valaDevelop

    Greetings
    Wolfgang
    PS. Also a macOS - Version will be available


    Am 04.03.19 um 18:40 schrieb Guillaume Poirier-Morency:

    What features are supported by your IDE?

    Le dim. 3 mars 2019, à 05 h 47, Wolfgang Mauer <
    wolfgang.ma...@kabelmail.de 
> a écrit :

    Hi,

    it would be nice if you update the
    "https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Vala/Tools; 
  /
"https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Vala/ValaForCSharpProgrammers; 


    and add
    my IDE (https://github.com/wolfgangmauer/valaDevelop)


    Greetings

    Wolfgang


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Re: [Vala] valaDevelop

[Wolfgang Mauer]

Yes, i use libvala for Symbol Resolving, Jump to Definition, Code 
Analyses  and Completion(not finish yet)


Maybe i have to link libvala static for some reasons, all the different 
distributions and everyone have different versions of libvala ...


I use pure glib-compile-resources/valac for building the project


Greetings

Wolfgang


Am 20.03.19 um 18:21 schrieb Guillaume Poirier-Morency:

I'm curious. Are you using libvala for providing these features?

Le mar. 19 mars 2019, à 19 h 17, Wolfgang Mauer 
mailto:wolfgang.ma...@kabelmail.de>> a 
écrit :


It would be nice if you can update the Wiki.

The feature "*Jump to Definition*" is now available with valaDevelop


Thanks a lot

Wolfgang


Am 11.03.19 um 04:30 schrieb Guillaume Poirier-Morency:

I just added the entry in the Wiki.

Le dim. 10 mars 2019, à 10 h 17, Wolfgang Mauer
mailto:wolfgang.ma...@kabelmail.de>> a écrit :

Implemented so far...


Solution/Project-management (including resources/packages)
Syntax-Highlight (GtkSourceView-3) search/replace/etc.)
Integrated Build, Test and Debug
    -> Integrated Debugging with full symbol resolving
support (only vala source, no .c files necessary, no
--save-temps)
    -> Integrated Build (raw output available)


Greetings

Wolfgang

PS: Please, please, please... Don't call it Editor ;-)


Am 05.03.19 um 15:30 schrieb Guillaume Poirier-Morency:

Just a suggestion: you should setup a simple GitHub page from the
repository and ship sources as assets in empty releases if you don't
intend to distribute the source code.

I'm not a big fan of freeware, but since we already display IDE like
IntelliJ and TextMate, I think it's fine to put your work as well.

What features are implemented so far?

Le lundi 04 mars 2019 à 19:28 +0100, Wolfgang Mauer a écrit :

Thanks for the attention!

I hope I can answer correctly to your satisfaction.

Some of the features are not fully implemented yet.

Well, as the name suggests, everything is integrated.
Solution/Project-management (one solution, many projects)
Syntax-Highlight
Jump to Declaration (sourcecode/valadoc)
Debugging (only vala source, no .c files necessary, no --save-temps)
Building
Auto-Completion
Symbol Resolving, debug and edit mode by Tool tip
Git integration
There are no additional tools such as make/meson/ninja/etc. required.
The only one is the vala-compiler (valac).

Upon completion, all features that comprise each tool should be
available in one.

You can see some of the early screenshots here
https://github.com/wolfgangmauer/valaDevelop

Greetings
Wolfgang
PS. Also a macOS - Version will be available


Am 04.03.19 um 18:40 schrieb Guillaume Poirier-Morency:

What features are supported by your IDE?

Le dim. 3 mars 2019, à 05 h 47, Wolfgang Mauer <
wolfgang.ma...@kabelmail.de  > a 
écrit :

Hi,

it would be nice if you update the
"https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Vala/Tools;  
  /
"https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Vala/ValaForCSharpProgrammers;  

and add
my IDE (https://github.com/wolfgangmauer/valaDevelop)


Greetings

Wolfgang


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Re: [Vala] valaDevelop

[Wolfgang Mauer]

Wait a bit, "*Static Code Analysis*" are ready by the weekend...


Am 20.03.19 um 18:21 schrieb Guillaume Poirier-Morency:

I'm curious. Are you using libvala for providing these features?

Le mar. 19 mars 2019, à 19 h 17, Wolfgang Mauer 
mailto:wolfgang.ma...@kabelmail.de>> a 
écrit :


It would be nice if you can update the Wiki.

The feature "*Jump to Definition*" is now available with valaDevelop


Thanks a lot

Wolfgang


Am 11.03.19 um 04:30 schrieb Guillaume Poirier-Morency:

I just added the entry in the Wiki.

Le dim. 10 mars 2019, à 10 h 17, Wolfgang Mauer
mailto:wolfgang.ma...@kabelmail.de>> a écrit :

Implemented so far...


Solution/Project-management (including resources/packages)
Syntax-Highlight (GtkSourceView-3) search/replace/etc.)
Integrated Build, Test and Debug
    -> Integrated Debugging with full symbol resolving
support (only vala source, no .c files necessary, no
--save-temps)
    -> Integrated Build (raw output available)


Greetings

Wolfgang

PS: Please, please, please... Don't call it Editor ;-)


Am 05.03.19 um 15:30 schrieb Guillaume Poirier-Morency:

Just a suggestion: you should setup a simple GitHub page from the
repository and ship sources as assets in empty releases if you don't
intend to distribute the source code.

I'm not a big fan of freeware, but since we already display IDE like
IntelliJ and TextMate, I think it's fine to put your work as well.

What features are implemented so far?

Le lundi 04 mars 2019 à 19:28 +0100, Wolfgang Mauer a écrit :

Thanks for the attention!

I hope I can answer correctly to your satisfaction.

Some of the features are not fully implemented yet.

Well, as the name suggests, everything is integrated.
Solution/Project-management (one solution, many projects)
Syntax-Highlight
Jump to Declaration (sourcecode/valadoc)
Debugging (only vala source, no .c files necessary, no --save-temps)
Building
Auto-Completion
Symbol Resolving, debug and edit mode by Tool tip
Git integration
There are no additional tools such as make/meson/ninja/etc. required.
The only one is the vala-compiler (valac).

Upon completion, all features that comprise each tool should be
available in one.

You can see some of the early screenshots here
https://github.com/wolfgangmauer/valaDevelop

Greetings
Wolfgang
PS. Also a macOS - Version will be available


Am 04.03.19 um 18:40 schrieb Guillaume Poirier-Morency:

What features are supported by your IDE?

Le dim. 3 mars 2019, à 05 h 47, Wolfgang Mauer <
wolfgang.ma...@kabelmail.de  > a 
écrit :

Hi,

it would be nice if you update the
"https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Vala/Tools;  
  /
"https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Vala/ValaForCSharpProgrammers;  

and add
my IDE (https://github.com/wolfgangmauer/valaDevelop)


Greetings

Wolfgang


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>

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Re: [Vala] valaDevelop

[Guillaume Poirier-Morency via vala-list]

I'm curious. Are you using libvala for providing these features?

Le mar. 19 mars 2019, à 19 h 17, Wolfgang Mauer 
a écrit :

> It would be nice if you can update the Wiki.
>
> The feature "*Jump to Definition*" is now available with valaDevelop
>
>
> Thanks a lot
>
> Wolfgang
>
>
> Am 11.03.19 um 04:30 schrieb Guillaume Poirier-Morency:
>
> I just added the entry in the Wiki.
>
> Le dim. 10 mars 2019, à 10 h 17, Wolfgang Mauer <
> wolfgang.ma...@kabelmail.de> a écrit :
>
>> Implemented so far...
>>
>> Solution/Project-management (including resources/packages)
>> Syntax-Highlight (GtkSourceView-3) search/replace/etc.)
>> Integrated Build, Test and Debug
>> -> Integrated Debugging with full symbol resolving support (only vala
>> source, no .c files necessary, no --save-temps)
>> -> Integrated Build (raw output available)
>>
>>
>> Greetings
>>
>> Wolfgang
>>
>> PS: Please, please, please... Don't call it Editor ;-)
>>
>>
>> Am 05.03.19 um 15:30 schrieb Guillaume Poirier-Morency:
>>
>> Just a suggestion: you should setup a simple GitHub page from the
>> repository and ship sources as assets in empty releases if you don't
>> intend to distribute the source code.
>>
>> I'm not a big fan of freeware, but since we already display IDE like
>> IntelliJ and TextMate, I think it's fine to put your work as well.
>>
>> What features are implemented so far?
>>
>> Le lundi 04 mars 2019 à 19:28 +0100, Wolfgang Mauer a écrit :
>>
>> Thanks for the attention!
>>
>> I hope I can answer correctly to your satisfaction.
>>
>> Some of the features are not fully implemented yet.
>>
>> Well, as the name suggests, everything is integrated.
>> Solution/Project-management (one solution, many projects)
>> Syntax-Highlight
>> Jump to Declaration (sourcecode/valadoc)
>> Debugging (only vala source, no .c files necessary, no --save-temps)
>> Building
>> Auto-Completion
>> Symbol Resolving, debug and edit mode by Tool tip
>> Git integration
>> There are no additional tools such as make/meson/ninja/etc. required.
>> The only one is the vala-compiler (valac).
>>
>> Upon completion, all features that comprise each tool should be
>> available in one.
>>
>> You can see some of the early screenshots here 
>> https://github.com/wolfgangmauer/valaDevelop
>>
>> Greetings
>> Wolfgang
>> PS. Also a macOS - Version will be available
>>
>>
>> Am 04.03.19 um 18:40 schrieb Guillaume Poirier-Morency:
>>
>> What features are supported by your IDE?
>>
>> Le dim. 3 mars 2019, à 05 h 47, Wolfgang Mauer  
>> a écrit :
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> it would be nice if you update the 
>> "https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Vala/Tools; 
>>  / 
>> "https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Vala/ValaForCSharpProgrammers; 
>> 
>> and add
>> my IDE (https://github.com/wolfgangmauer/valaDevelop)
>>
>>
>> Greetings
>>
>> Wolfgang
>>
>>
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>>
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>> 
>>
>> Étudiant à la maîtrise en informatique à l'Université de Montréal
>> Chercheur à l'Institut de recherche en immunologie et en
>> cancérologie
>>
>> Page Web: arteymix.github.io
>> Clé PGP: B1AD6EA5
>>
>>
>
> --
> Guillaume Poirier-Morency 
>
> Étudiant à la maîtrise en informatique à l'Université de Montréal
> Chercheur à l'Institut de recherche en immunologie et en cancérologie
>
> *Page Web:* arteymix.github.io
> *Clé PGP:* B1AD6EA5
> 
>
>

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Re: [Vala] valaDevelop

[Wolfgang Mauer]

It would be nice if you can update the Wiki.

The feature "*Jump to Definition*" is now available with valaDevelop


Thanks a lot

Wolfgang


Am 11.03.19 um 04:30 schrieb Guillaume Poirier-Morency:

I just added the entry in the Wiki.

Le dim. 10 mars 2019, à 10 h 17, Wolfgang Mauer 
mailto:wolfgang.ma...@kabelmail.de>> a 
écrit :


Implemented so far...


Solution/Project-management (including resources/packages)
Syntax-Highlight (GtkSourceView-3) search/replace/etc.)
Integrated Build, Test and Debug
    -> Integrated Debugging with full symbol resolving support
(only vala source, no .c files necessary, no --save-temps)
    -> Integrated Build (raw output available)


Greetings

Wolfgang

PS: Please, please, please... Don't call it Editor ;-)


Am 05.03.19 um 15:30 schrieb Guillaume Poirier-Morency:

Just a suggestion: you should setup a simple GitHub page from the
repository and ship sources as assets in empty releases if you don't
intend to distribute the source code.

I'm not a big fan of freeware, but since we already display IDE like
IntelliJ and TextMate, I think it's fine to put your work as well.

What features are implemented so far?

Le lundi 04 mars 2019 à 19:28 +0100, Wolfgang Mauer a écrit :

Thanks for the attention!

I hope I can answer correctly to your satisfaction.

Some of the features are not fully implemented yet.

Well, as the name suggests, everything is integrated.
Solution/Project-management (one solution, many projects)
Syntax-Highlight
Jump to Declaration (sourcecode/valadoc)
Debugging (only vala source, no .c files necessary, no --save-temps)
Building
Auto-Completion
Symbol Resolving, debug and edit mode by Tool tip
Git integration
There are no additional tools such as make/meson/ninja/etc. required.
The only one is the vala-compiler (valac).

Upon completion, all features that comprise each tool should be
available in one.

You can see some of the early screenshots here
https://github.com/wolfgangmauer/valaDevelop

Greetings
Wolfgang
PS. Also a macOS - Version will be available


Am 04.03.19 um 18:40 schrieb Guillaume Poirier-Morency:

What features are supported by your IDE?

Le dim. 3 mars 2019, à 05 h 47, Wolfgang Mauer <
wolfgang.ma...@kabelmail.de  > a écrit :

Hi,

it would be nice if you update the
"https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Vala/Tools;  
  /
"https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Vala/ValaForCSharpProgrammers;  

and add
my IDE (https://github.com/wolfgangmauer/valaDevelop)


Greetings

Wolfgang


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Re: [Vala] valaDevelop

[Guillaume Poirier-Morency via vala-list]

I just added the entry in the Wiki.

Le dim. 10 mars 2019, à 10 h 17, Wolfgang Mauer 
a écrit :

> Implemented so far...
>
> Solution/Project-management (including resources/packages)
> Syntax-Highlight (GtkSourceView-3) search/replace/etc.)
> Integrated Build, Test and Debug
> -> Integrated Debugging with full symbol resolving support (only vala
> source, no .c files necessary, no --save-temps)
> -> Integrated Build (raw output available)
>
>
> Greetings
>
> Wolfgang
>
> PS: Please, please, please... Don't call it Editor ;-)
>
>
> Am 05.03.19 um 15:30 schrieb Guillaume Poirier-Morency:
>
> Just a suggestion: you should setup a simple GitHub page from the
> repository and ship sources as assets in empty releases if you don't
> intend to distribute the source code.
>
> I'm not a big fan of freeware, but since we already display IDE like
> IntelliJ and TextMate, I think it's fine to put your work as well.
>
> What features are implemented so far?
>
> Le lundi 04 mars 2019 à 19:28 +0100, Wolfgang Mauer a écrit :
>
> Thanks for the attention!
>
> I hope I can answer correctly to your satisfaction.
>
> Some of the features are not fully implemented yet.
>
> Well, as the name suggests, everything is integrated.
> Solution/Project-management (one solution, many projects)
> Syntax-Highlight
> Jump to Declaration (sourcecode/valadoc)
> Debugging (only vala source, no .c files necessary, no --save-temps)
> Building
> Auto-Completion
> Symbol Resolving, debug and edit mode by Tool tip
> Git integration
> There are no additional tools such as make/meson/ninja/etc. required.
> The only one is the vala-compiler (valac).
>
> Upon completion, all features that comprise each tool should be
> available in one.
>
> You can see some of the early screenshots here 
> https://github.com/wolfgangmauer/valaDevelop
>
> Greetings
> Wolfgang
> PS. Also a macOS - Version will be available
>
>
> Am 04.03.19 um 18:40 schrieb Guillaume Poirier-Morency:
>
> What features are supported by your IDE?
>
> Le dim. 3 mars 2019, à 05 h 47, Wolfgang Mauer  
> a écrit :
>
> Hi,
>
> it would be nice if you update the 
> "https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Vala/Tools; 
>  / 
> "https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Vala/ValaForCSharpProgrammers; 
> 
> and add
> my IDE (https://github.com/wolfgangmauer/valaDevelop)
>
>
> Greetings
>
> Wolfgang
>
>
> ___
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> listvala-list@gnome.orghttps://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
>
> --
> Guillaume Poirier-Morency  
> 
>
> Étudiant à la maîtrise en informatique à l'Université de Montréal
> Chercheur à l'Institut de recherche en immunologie et en
> cancérologie
>
> Page Web: arteymix.github.io
> Clé PGP: B1AD6EA5
>
>

-- 
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Re: [Vala] valaDevelop

[Wolfgang Mauer]

Implemented so far...


Solution/Project-management (including resources/packages)
Syntax-Highlight (GtkSourceView-3) search/replace/etc.)
Integrated Build, Test and Debug
    -> Integrated Debugging with full symbol resolving support (only 
vala source, no .c files necessary, no --save-temps)

    -> Integrated Build (raw output available)


Greetings

Wolfgang

PS: Please, please, please... Don't call it Editor ;-)


Am 05.03.19 um 15:30 schrieb Guillaume Poirier-Morency:

Just a suggestion: you should setup a simple GitHub page from the
repository and ship sources as assets in empty releases if you don't
intend to distribute the source code.

I'm not a big fan of freeware, but since we already display IDE like
IntelliJ and TextMate, I think it's fine to put your work as well.

What features are implemented so far?

Le lundi 04 mars 2019 à 19:28 +0100, Wolfgang Mauer a écrit :

Thanks for the attention!

I hope I can answer correctly to your satisfaction.

Some of the features are not fully implemented yet.

Well, as the name suggests, everything is integrated.
Solution/Project-management (one solution, many projects)
Syntax-Highlight
Jump to Declaration (sourcecode/valadoc)
Debugging (only vala source, no .c files necessary, no --save-temps)
Building
Auto-Completion
Symbol Resolving, debug and edit mode by Tool tip
Git integration
There are no additional tools such as make/meson/ninja/etc. required.
The only one is the vala-compiler (valac).

Upon completion, all features that comprise each tool should be
available in one.

You can see some of the early screenshots here
https://github.com/wolfgangmauer/valaDevelop

Greetings
Wolfgang
PS. Also a macOS - Version will be available


Am 04.03.19 um 18:40 schrieb Guillaume Poirier-Morency:

What features are supported by your IDE?

Le dim. 3 mars 2019, à 05 h 47, Wolfgang Mauer <
wolfgang.ma...@kabelmail.de> a écrit :

Hi,

it would be nice if you update the
"https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Vala/Tools; /
"https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Vala/ValaForCSharpProgrammers;
and add
my IDE (https://github.com/wolfgangmauer/valaDevelop)


Greetings

Wolfgang


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[Vala] valaDevelop

[Wolfgang Mauer]

Hi all, i proudly would like to introduce you to a new feature of 
valaDevelop. From now on it is possible to display all accessible 
symbols for the current call stack in debugmode. See first picture 
https://github.com/wolfgangmauer/valaDevelop Enjoy Wolfgang


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Re: [Vala] valaDevelop

[Guillaume Poirier-Morency via vala-list]

Just a suggestion: you should setup a simple GitHub page from the
repository and ship sources as assets in empty releases if you don't
intend to distribute the source code. 

I'm not a big fan of freeware, but since we already display IDE like
IntelliJ and TextMate, I think it's fine to put your work as well.

What features are implemented so far?

Le lundi 04 mars 2019 à 19:28 +0100, Wolfgang Mauer a écrit :
> Thanks for the attention!
> 
> I hope I can answer correctly to your satisfaction.
> 
> Some of the features are not fully implemented yet.
> 
> Well, as the name suggests, everything is integrated.
> Solution/Project-management (one solution, many projects)
> Syntax-Highlight
> Jump to Declaration (sourcecode/valadoc)
> Debugging (only vala source, no .c files necessary, no --save-temps)
> Building
> Auto-Completion
> Symbol Resolving, debug and edit mode by Tool tip
> Git integration
> There are no additional tools such as make/meson/ninja/etc. required.
> The only one is the vala-compiler (valac).
> 
> Upon completion, all features that comprise each tool should be
> available in one.
> 
> You can see some of the early screenshots here 
> https://github.com/wolfgangmauer/valaDevelop
> 
> Greetings
> Wolfgang
> PS. Also a macOS - Version will be available
> 
> 
> Am 04.03.19 um 18:40 schrieb Guillaume Poirier-Morency:
> > What features are supported by your IDE?
> > 
> > Le dim. 3 mars 2019, à 05 h 47, Wolfgang Mauer <
> > wolfgang.ma...@kabelmail.de> a écrit :
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > it would be nice if you update the 
> > > "https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Vala/Tools; / 
> > > "https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Vala/ValaForCSharpProgrammers;
> > > and add 
> > > my IDE (https://github.com/wolfgangmauer/valaDevelop)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Greetings
> > > 
> > > Wolfgang
> > > 
> > > 
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> > > vala-list@gnome.org
> > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Guillaume Poirier-Morency 
> > 
> > Étudiant à la maîtrise en informatique à l'Université de Montréal
> > Chercheur à l'Institut de recherche en immunologie et en
> > cancérologie
> > 
> > Page Web: arteymix.github.io
> > Clé PGP: B1AD6EA5
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[Vala] valaDevelop

[Wolfgang Mauer]

Hi,

it would be nice if you update the 
"https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Vala/Tools; / 
"https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Vala/ValaForCSharpProgrammers; and add 
my IDE (https://github.com/wolfgangmauer/valaDevelop)



Greetings

Wolfgang


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[Vala] valaDevelop - help wanted

[Wolfgang Mauer]

Hi all,

is there perhaps someone here who want/can help me put together a 
package for installation with Ubuntu/Debian?



What i want is to install thebinary file and register the associated 
Pixmap and MimeType.



Thanks
Wolfgang

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