Re: [Vala] when will vala 0.8 be released?
Am Mittwoch, den 06.01.2010, 17:54 +0800 schrieb Jerry Tan: > On 11/18/09 03:42 PM, Jerry Tan wrote: > > I heard that it will be released soon, > > right? > > > > ___ > > Vala-list mailing list > > Vala-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list > > > ping again after two month . I'm afraid pinging won't help much. Vala 0.7.9 has been released a couple of weeks ago and there are only few bugs fixed since the release, so why cutting another one? Unfortunately the proposed split into vala and vala-bindings didn't happen either, so the bindings will still have to wait for the core. If you just want to build from a tarball, feel free to use my inofficial intermediate snapshots, which I use for my own work, such as http://www.freesmartphone.org/sources/vala-0.7.9.3.tar.bz2 Cheers, -- :M: ___ Vala-list mailing list Vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] when will vala 0.8 be released?
On 11/18/09 03:42 PM, Jerry Tan wrote: I heard that it will be released soon, right? ___ Vala-list mailing list Vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list ping again after two month . ___ Vala-list mailing list Vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] when will vala 0.8 be released?
2009/11/18 Jerry Tan : > Michael 'Mickey' Lauer : >> >> Am Mittwoch, den 18.11.2009, 09:48 +0100 schrieb pancake: >>> I think Vala core need more maintainers. >> >> While that may be true as well, I think even more important would be a >> split into -language and -bindings, since Vala bindings could and should >> be more often released than Vala language. > > yes, I agree. > > split vala into vala-core and vala-bindings. > > or just like gstreamer, > gstreamer project has gstreamer , gst-plugin-base, gst-plugin-good, > gst-plugin-bad. > > vala can also have vala-core, vala-binding-base, vala-binding-experimental. I wouldn't take all the hasle to split bindings into multiple packages. The gstreamer example is fine, but in its case these are plugins for codecs which clearly is another level of what is a bad plugin and a good plugin compared to bindings. Bindings are all the same, a text file with public stuff. Perhaps, keep only a useful list of bindings inside vala-core (like the GTK+ stack) and move all the rest to vala-bindings? Or simply everything to vala-bindings, in fact distros are splitting the vala bindings in even smaller packages usually. My 2 cents -- Mike PS: I sent the first time to Jerry only, sorry ___ Vala-list mailing list Vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] when will vala 0.8 be released?
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:14 PM, Frederik wrote: > > I have another hackathon idea: A documentation "hackathon". That's > something where everyone can help. For example, one thing that lacks > documentation are code attributes used for bindings ([CCode] et al.) -- > a tutorial for writing bindings by hand. And there are still some > language features not documented in the tutorial (e.g. stack allocated > arrays, dynamic growth for dynamically allocated arrays, static > initialization, generic methods, hiding methods, inline methods, extern > methods). The "Working with Collections" section is still for libgee < 0.5. > Seconded - Sudharsh ___ Vala-list mailing list Vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] when will vala 0.8 be released?
Hi, 2009/11/19 Daniel Svensson : > > Got curious, how do you make stack allocated arrays? > I think it is : TypeName identifier[array_length]; btw, I second the idea of a hackaton. Abderrahim ___ Vala-list mailing list Vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] when will vala 0.8 be released?
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Frederik wrote: > I have another hackathon idea: A documentation "hackathon". That's > something where everyone can help. For example, one thing that lacks > documentation are code attributes used for bindings ([CCode] et al.) -- > a tutorial for writing bindings by hand. And there are still some > language features not documented in the tutorial (e.g. stack allocated > arrays, dynamic growth for dynamically allocated arrays, static > initialization, generic methods, hiding methods, inline methods, extern > methods). The "Working with Collections" section is still for libgee < 0.5. Got curious, how do you make stack allocated arrays? -- Daniel Svensson ___ Vala-list mailing list Vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] when will vala 0.8 be released?
pancake wrote: > I have about 5 patches to be reviewed since two weeks ago, > and i'm waiting to have them in mainstream to continue fixing other bugs. > > I understand that the patches must be reviewed before being included, > but I also understand > that if the main developer is busy in other projects, but the community > gets locked which is not good. > > --pancake You must be patient, two weeks are nothing. In other projects patches may exist years without getting reviewed ;). Juergbi usually catches up with patches before he releases a new version. I have another hackathon idea: A documentation "hackathon". That's something where everyone can help. For example, one thing that lacks documentation are code attributes used for bindings ([CCode] et al.) -- a tutorial for writing bindings by hand. And there are still some language features not documented in the tutorial (e.g. stack allocated arrays, dynamic growth for dynamically allocated arrays, static initialization, generic methods, hiding methods, inline methods, extern methods). The "Working with Collections" section is still for libgee < 0.5. The goal is that no one should be able to say "That was not mentioned in the tutorial" any longer. :) And some English mother-tongue speaker could look for grammar and spelling mistakes in the tutorial and on other Vala wiki pages. Best regards, Frederik ___ Vala-list mailing list Vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] when will vala 0.8 be released?
Jerry Tan wrote: Michael 'Mickey' Lauer : Am Mittwoch, den 18.11.2009, 09:48 +0100 schrieb pancake: I hope not. 0.7.8 was released the past week and IMHO there are so many bugs, patches to review before a new release. There are not so many commits these days and I dislike to see version bumps without so many changes. To be fair, this are not regression bugs, but bugs that have been there since long. Yep, I was not trying to blame Vala :P Just to show that most of the commits after 0.7.8 are related to .vapi and not the compiler itself. I have about 15 test cases of invalid C code generated with partial patches waiting to be reviewed and waiting to have more spare time to fix those bugs in a better way (im learning the vala internals at train trips). This is why I am looking for the vala hackaton. I think Vala core need more maintainers. While that may be true as well, I think even more important would be a split into -language and -bindings, since Vala bindings could and should be more often released than Vala language. yes, I agree. split vala into vala-core and vala-bindings. or just like gstreamer, gstreamer project has gstreamer , gst-plugin-base, gst-plugin-good, gst-plugin-bad. vala can also have vala-core, vala-binding-base, vala-binding-experimental. Yes, this takes sense, because vala-core and vala-bindings doesnt need to have the same release ratio. And now that there are separated developers to maintain the bindings it takes even more sense. Btw few weeks ago I got the idea about to organize bugfixing hackaton for vala. I think it will be good to specify a scheduled hackaton every N months via irc to fix as much bugs as possible, learn moreabout the language, the compiler internals, etc. Splendid idea! Any proposal for the initial date? Who has commit rights on the vala-core? Because looks like juerg is the blocking, because he has not much time and I have about 5 patches to be reviewed since two weeks ago, and i'm waiting to have them in mainstream to continue fixing other bugs. I understand that the patches must be reviewed before being included, but I also understand that if the main developer is busy in other projects, but the community gets locked which is not good. --pancake ___ Vala-list mailing list Vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] when will vala 0.8 be released?
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer : Am Mittwoch, den 18.11.2009, 09:48 +0100 schrieb pancake: I hope not. 0.7.8 was released the past week and IMHO there are so many bugs, patches to review before a new release. There are not so many commits these days and I dislike to see version bumps without so many changes. To be fair, this are not regression bugs, but bugs that have been there since long. I think Vala core need more maintainers. While that may be true as well, I think even more important would be a split into -language and -bindings, since Vala bindings could and should be more often released than Vala language. yes, I agree. split vala into vala-core and vala-bindings. or just like gstreamer, gstreamer project has gstreamer , gst-plugin-base, gst-plugin-good, gst-plugin-bad. vala can also have vala-core, vala-binding-base, vala-binding-experimental. Btw few weeks ago I got the idea about to organize bugfixing hackaton for vala. I think it will be good to specify a scheduled hackaton every N months via irc to fix as much bugs as possible, learn moreabout the language, the compiler internals, etc. Splendid idea! :M: ___ Vala-list mailing list Vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list ___ Vala-list mailing list Vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] when will vala 0.8 be released?
Am Mittwoch, den 18.11.2009, 09:48 +0100 schrieb pancake: > I hope not. > > 0.7.8 was released the past week and IMHO there are so many bugs, > patches to review before a new release. There are not so many commits > these days and I dislike to see version bumps without so many changes. To be fair, this are not regression bugs, but bugs that have been there since long. > I think Vala core need more maintainers. While that may be true as well, I think even more important would be a split into -language and -bindings, since Vala bindings could and should be more often released than Vala language. > > Btw few weeks ago I got the idea about to organize bugfixing hackaton > for vala. I think it will be good to specify a scheduled hackaton > every N months via irc to fix as much bugs as possible, learn > moreabout the language, the compiler internals, etc. Splendid idea! :M: ___ Vala-list mailing list Vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
Re: [Vala] when will vala 0.8 be released?
I hope not. 0.7.8 was released the past week and IMHO there are so many bugs, patches to review before a new release. There are not so many commits these days and I dislike to see version bumps without so many changes. I think Vala core need more maintainers. Btw few weeks ago I got the idea about to organize bugfixing hackaton for vala. I think it will be good to specify a scheduled hackaton every N months via irc to fix as much bugs as possible, learn moreabout the language, the compiler internals, etc. Juergbi which date do you think is good to do it? What do the rest of people of the ml think think about? On Nov 18, 2009, at 8:42 AM, Jerry Tan wrote: I heard that it will be released soon, right? ___ Vala-list mailing list Vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list ___ Vala-list mailing list Vala-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
