RE: VCL w/ Netapp thin provisioning

2011-08-09 Thread Hartl, Gerhard L.
I'm interested

- Gerhard

-Original Message-
From: Aaron Peeler [mailto:aaron_pee...@ncsu.edu] 
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 2:16 PM
To: vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: VCL w/ Netapp thin provisioning

Hi Gerhard,

Correct, this provisioning module did not get included in the latest release 
because it wasn't maintained by the original creator. Since the current active 
committers don't have a way to test and validate it, we had to drop it from the 
2.1.1 version.

If I recall correctly, this module was created as a proof of concept to test 
how fast VCL could provision thousands of vms on the higher end netapp storage 
arrays at the NetApp DataCenter here in NC.

If your interested in maintaining it, we'd love to discuss bringing you in as 
an official committer. Just let us know if your interested.

Cheers,
Aaron



On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Hartl, Gerhard L. gha...@odu.edu wrote:
 I've noticed that the Netapp (esxthin.pm) portion of the available 
 provisioning engines was not included in the latest 2.1.1 version of VCL as 
 it was in previous versions and was just curious if there are any updated 
 versions of it.  I have been able to get it working properly after a bit of 
 tinkering, as things like multi core provisioning was not included in the 
 version I currently have, however I would like to stick to a tried and true 
 version.

 If it hasn't been updated in awhile, I'd be happy to add a fews lines in it.

 - Gerhard
 Old Dominion University | occs.odu.edu





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Re: VCL w/ Netapp thin provisioning

2011-08-09 Thread Aaron Peeler
Hi Gerhard,

This is great. The next step is for you to submit your ICLA. Here is
some more info:
http://www.apache.org/licenses/#clas

http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.pdf

Fill the icla out and send to secret...@apache.org. If you would let
me know when you've submitted it.

On our end, I'll recommend you for committer status on the vcl private
list and we'll go from there.

Thanks and look forward to working more with you.
Aaron



On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Hartl, Gerhard L. gha...@odu.edu wrote:
 I'm interested

 - Gerhard

 -Original Message-
 From: Aaron Peeler [mailto:aaron_pee...@ncsu.edu]
 Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 2:16 PM
 To: vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: Re: VCL w/ Netapp thin provisioning

 Hi Gerhard,

 Correct, this provisioning module did not get included in the latest release 
 because it wasn't maintained by the original creator. Since the current 
 active committers don't have a way to test and validate it, we had to drop it 
 from the 2.1.1 version.

 If I recall correctly, this module was created as a proof of concept to test 
 how fast VCL could provision thousands of vms on the higher end netapp 
 storage arrays at the NetApp DataCenter here in NC.

 If your interested in maintaining it, we'd love to discuss bringing you in as 
 an official committer. Just let us know if your interested.

 Cheers,
 Aaron



 On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Hartl, Gerhard L. gha...@odu.edu wrote:
 I've noticed that the Netapp (esxthin.pm) portion of the available 
 provisioning engines was not included in the latest 2.1.1 version of VCL as 
 it was in previous versions and was just curious if there are any updated 
 versions of it.  I have been able to get it working properly after a bit of 
 tinkering, as things like multi core provisioning was not included in the 
 version I currently have, however I would like to stick to a tried and true 
 version.

 If it hasn't been updated in awhile, I'd be happy to add a fews lines in it.

 - Gerhard
 Old Dominion University | occs.odu.edu





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Re: Fwd: VCL w/ Netapp thin provisioning

2011-08-09 Thread Josh Thompson
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Brian,

The ASF has a very clearly defined release process.  We have it specifically 
documented for the ASF VCL community here:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/VCL/VCL+Release+Procedures

Part of that process is to create a release candidate.  Then, a vote is called 
for on the vcl-dev list that includes information about where to download the 
release candidate for examination.

As the release manager, I create the release candidate and call for the vote.  
I removed the esx and esxthin provisioning modules from the release
candidate - the esx module because it is very out of date and its 
functionality has been replaced by the vmware module, and the esxthin module 
because (a) it requires physical hardware for testing that none of the active 
VCL committers have access to and (b) it had not been touched by the original 
author (you) in over a year.

The release candidate voting for 2.2.1 took place on the vcl-dev list from 
3/18/11 to 4/4/11.  The call for the initial vote is archived here:

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-vcl-
dev/201103.mbox/%3c201103181630.04848.josh_thomp...@ncsu.edu%3E

The vote result is archived here:

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-vcl-
dev/201104.mbox/%3c201104041331.07285.josh_thomp...@ncsu.edu%3E

You had ample opportunity to review the release candidates during that time 
and bring up an objection to esxthin being removed.  That is why the ASF is so 
emphatic about releases taking place through a community voting process - so 
that community members have the opportunity to express any objections to a 
release.

In your email below, you stated that It is very well tested.  I'll draw your 
attention to your last email to the vcl-dev list that is archived here (sent 
on 2/3/2010):

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-vcl-
dev/201002.mbox/%3c4606b6551002030755x4dd6166cw718b2b57e4f...@mail.gmail.com%3E

In that email, you asked Andy to do some updates to the esxthin module because 
you didn't have a good way of testing it.  That was over a year before the 
2.2.1 release.  You also expressed interest in helping to keep the module 
updated better in the future.  However, that is not reflected in the code 
repository nor by any emails to the vcl-dev list.

So, at the time of the 2.2.1 release:
- -no active committers had a way to test the esxthin module
- -the author of the esxthin module (you) had expressed over a year earlier 
that 
he didn't have a good way to test the module
- -the author of the esxthin module (you) had not contacted the list in over a 
year, even when users had asked questions about using it on the list (implies 
author is not interested in maintaining module)
- -no one expressed concern about the esxthin module not being included during 
the voting process

As the release maintainer, I felt it was the more responsible action to remove 
the module from the release rather than release something that could lead 
people to problems using it because they would assume it is up to date and 
well tested.  Additionally, the module is still in the code repository for 
anyone that would like to download it and try it from there.  I most certainly 
did not selectively overlook the esxthin module during the release process.

If you have disappointment with it not being included in the 2.2.1 release, I 
suggest that you step up your level of involvement - with the code by keeping 
the module up to date, and with the community by being more active on the vcl-
dev and vcl-user lists (you didn't even vote for the 2.2 release, much less 
the 2.2.1 release).

Josh
Apache VCL release manager

On Tuesday August 09, 2011, Brian Bouterse wrote:
 I am the original author of this work and am extremely disappointed that it
 has been dis-included from the release process.  It is very well tested,
 and was proven to work.  As an open source project, it is very *unfair* to
 selectively overlook
 contributions that have been made out in the open and according to the
 process.
 
 This is an example of why the VCL commit and release process is broken.
 
 Brian
 
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 From: Aaron Peeler aaron_pee...@ncsu.edu
 Date: Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 2:15 PM
 Subject: Re: VCL w/ Netapp thin provisioning
 To: vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org
 
 
 Hi Gerhard,
 
 Correct, this provisioning module did not get included in the latest
 release because it wasn't maintained by the original creator. Since
 the current active committers don't have a way to test and validate
 it, we had to drop it from the 2.1.1 version.
 
 If I recall correctly, this module was created as a proof of concept
 to test how fast VCL could provision thousands of vms on the higher
 end netapp storage arrays at the NetApp DataCenter here in NC.
 
 If your interested in maintaining it, we'd love to discuss bringing
 you in as an official committer. Just let us know if your interested.
 
 Cheers,
 

Re: Board report due -- reminder

2011-08-09 Thread Aaron Peeler
This has been created:

http://cwiki.apache.org/VCL/2011-08-incubator-vcl-report.html

If anyone has suggestions/updates or corrections please let me know or
update the page.

I'll add the report to the Incubator page first thing in the morning.

Aaron

On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Aaron Peeler aaron_pee...@ncsu.edu wrote:
 Any one want to take stab at our August board report?

 It's due this Wednesday.


 Aaron

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Re: Board report due -- reminder

2011-08-09 Thread Josh Thompson
It looks good to me.  Thanks for writing it up.

Josh

On Tue August 9 2011 2:06:33 pm Aaron Peeler wrote:
 This has been created:
 
 http://cwiki.apache.org/VCL/2011-08-incubator-vcl-report.html
 
 If anyone has suggestions/updates or corrections please let me know or
 update the page.
 
 I'll add the report to the Incubator page first thing in the morning.
 
 Aaron
 
 On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Aaron Peeler aaron_pee...@ncsu.edu wrote:
  Any one want to take stab at our August board report?
  
  It's due this Wednesday.
  
  
  Aaron
  
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Re: Board report due -- reminder

2011-08-09 Thread Aaron Peeler
Thanks. I just noticed the incubator wiki for August states it's due
by Wednesday. So I'll go ahead and submit it later today so we're not
tardy. :)

Aaron

On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Josh Thompson josh_thomp...@ncsu.edu wrote:
 It looks good to me.  Thanks for writing it up.

 Josh

 On Tue August 9 2011 2:06:33 pm Aaron Peeler wrote:
 This has been created:

 http://cwiki.apache.org/VCL/2011-08-incubator-vcl-report.html

 If anyone has suggestions/updates or corrections please let me know or
 update the page.

 I'll add the report to the Incubator page first thing in the morning.

 Aaron

 On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Aaron Peeler aaron_pee...@ncsu.edu wrote:
  Any one want to take stab at our August board report?
 
  It's due this Wednesday.
 
 
  Aaron
 
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Re: Board report due -- reminder

2011-08-09 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
Looks good.  Thanks!  Can you add this to the Incubator Wiki?


Regards,
Alan

On Aug 9, 2011, at 11:06 AM, Aaron Peeler wrote:

 This has been created:
 
 http://cwiki.apache.org/VCL/2011-08-incubator-vcl-report.html
 
 If anyone has suggestions/updates or corrections please let me know or
 update the page.
 
 I'll add the report to the Incubator page first thing in the morning.
 
 Aaron
 
 On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Aaron Peeler aaron_pee...@ncsu.edu wrote:
 Any one want to take stab at our August board report?
 
 It's due this Wednesday.
 
 
 Aaron
 
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Re: Board report due -- reminder

2011-08-09 Thread Aaron Peeler
Yes. It's added and ready for sign off.
Aaron

On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote:
 Looks good.  Thanks!  Can you add this to the Incubator Wiki?


 Regards,
 Alan

 On Aug 9, 2011, at 11:06 AM, Aaron Peeler wrote:

 This has been created:

 http://cwiki.apache.org/VCL/2011-08-incubator-vcl-report.html

 If anyone has suggestions/updates or corrections please let me know or
 update the page.

 I'll add the report to the Incubator page first thing in the morning.

 Aaron

 On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Aaron Peeler aaron_pee...@ncsu.edu wrote:
 Any one want to take stab at our August board report?

 It's due this Wednesday.


 Aaron

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Re: Board report due -- reminder

2011-08-09 Thread Aaron Peeler
Sorry - I see you signed off already in the vcl wiki.
I'll copy that into the incubator wiki.
Aaron

On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Aaron Peeler aaron_pee...@ncsu.edu wrote:
 Yes. It's added and ready for sign off.
 Aaron

 On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote:
 Looks good.  Thanks!  Can you add this to the Incubator Wiki?


 Regards,
 Alan

 On Aug 9, 2011, at 11:06 AM, Aaron Peeler wrote:

 This has been created:

 http://cwiki.apache.org/VCL/2011-08-incubator-vcl-report.html

 If anyone has suggestions/updates or corrections please let me know or
 update the page.

 I'll add the report to the Incubator page first thing in the morning.

 Aaron

 On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Aaron Peeler aaron_pee...@ncsu.edu wrote:
 Any one want to take stab at our August board report?

 It's due this Wednesday.


 Aaron

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Remove.

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On Aug 9, 2011, at 12:44 PM, Aaron Peeler aaron_pee...@ncsu.edu wrote:

 Yes. It's added and ready for sign off.
 Aaron
 
 On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote:
 Looks good.  Thanks!  Can you add this to the Incubator Wiki?
 
 
 Regards,
 Alan
 
 On Aug 9, 2011, at 11:06 AM, Aaron Peeler wrote:
 
 This has been created:
 
 http://cwiki.apache.org/VCL/2011-08-incubator-vcl-report.html
 
 If anyone has suggestions/updates or corrections please let me know or
 update the page.
 
 I'll add the report to the Incubator page first thing in the morning.
 
 Aaron
 
 On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Aaron Peeler aaron_pee...@ncsu.edu wrote:
 Any one want to take stab at our August board report?
 
 It's due this Wednesday.
 
 
 Aaron
 
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