[Discuss] Graduation ? next steps

2012-01-30 Thread Aaron Peeler
Hi Folks,

We are getting close to being able to ask for graduation. Based on the
checklist:
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#checklist

We've meet many of the goals:
- the community is growing
- cut official releases, soon to be another one
- good communication on user/dev mailing lists and irc channel.
- more diversity in committers, hopefully over next month or so we can
bring one or two more.

Our current active committers are:
Andy kurth - NCSU
Josh Thompson - NCSU
David Hutchins -  Not-NCSU
Aaron Coburn - Not-NCSU
myself(Aaron Peeler) - NCSU

Part of our challenge in not graduating yet has been the diversity
among our committers. It is/was heavily weighted with NCSU only
committers. In order to move quicker to graduation, it would be great
to attract one more committer. Which means being active on the list
and submitting code for review. Other areas to be a committer can be
with the web site or documentation, in case you are not comfortable
with writing code.

Mentors, Can you advise on other areas or issues that your think we
need to address before we apply for graduation?

Best Regards,
Aaron


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Program Manager
Virtual Computing Lab
NC State University

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Re: [Discuss] Graduation ? next steps

2012-01-30 Thread Kevan Miller

On Jan 30, 2012, at 1:52 PM, Aaron Peeler wrote:

> Hi Folks,
> 
> We are getting close to being able to ask for graduation. Based on the
> checklist:
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#checklist
> 
> We've meet many of the goals:
> - the community is growing
> - cut official releases, soon to be another one
> - good communication on user/dev mailing lists and irc channel.
> - more diversity in committers, hopefully over next month or so we can
> bring one or two more.
> 
> Our current active committers are:
> Andy kurth - NCSU
> Josh Thompson - NCSU
> David Hutchins -  Not-NCSU
> Aaron Coburn - Not-NCSU
> myself(Aaron Peeler) - NCSU
> 
> Part of our challenge in not graduating yet has been the diversity
> among our committers. It is/was heavily weighted with NCSU only
> committers. In order to move quicker to graduation, it would be great
> to attract one more committer. Which means being active on the list
> and submitting code for review. Other areas to be a committer can be
> with the web site or documentation, in case you are not comfortable
> with writing code.
> 
> Mentors, Can you advise on other areas or issues that your think we
> need to address before we apply for graduation?

Diversity is the only sticking point that I have. 

I've been happy with the increased communication (one minor point -- try not to 
substitute Jira posts with mailing list communication) and overall progress of 
the community. I'd recommend that you continue to encourage and mentor new 
contributors. So that they can become committers on the project.

--kevan



Re: [Discuss] Graduation ? next steps

2012-01-30 Thread Alan D. Cabrera

On Jan 30, 2012, at 10:52 AM, Aaron Peeler wrote:

> Hi Folks,
> 
> We are getting close to being able to ask for graduation. Based on the
> checklist:
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#checklist
> 
> We've meet many of the goals:
> - the community is growing
> - cut official releases, soon to be another one
> - good communication on user/dev mailing lists and irc channel.
> - more diversity in committers, hopefully over next month or so we can
> bring one or two more.
> 
> Our current active committers are:
> Andy kurth - NCSU
> Josh Thompson - NCSU
> David Hutchins -  Not-NCSU
> Aaron Coburn - Not-NCSU
> myself(Aaron Peeler) - NCSU
> 
> Part of our challenge in not graduating yet has been the diversity
> among our committers. It is/was heavily weighted with NCSU only
> committers. In order to move quicker to graduation, it would be great
> to attract one more committer. Which means being active on the list
> and submitting code for review. Other areas to be a committer can be
> with the web site or documentation, in case you are not comfortable
> with writing code.
> 
> Mentors, Can you advise on other areas or issues that your think we
> need to address before we apply for graduation?

I think this is a great podling.  Diversity is the only sticking point that I 
have.  

Are their any lurkers out there who would be willing to step up?  :)

Sometimes writing or re-writing a sub-system is enough to attract fresh blood.  
What kinds of things would people like to see added to VCL?


Regards,
Alan
 



Re: [Discuss] Graduation ? next steps

2012-02-01 Thread Mike Haudenschild
Hi, Aaron et al. --

I'm heavily invested in VCL for two large production projects.  I'm not a
developer, but I have extensive experience writing documentation and would
be happy to help in that regard.

Most of my recent technical writing is proprietary, but a couple years ago
I wrote a Moodle install doc that you could review here:

http://mhauden.com/moodle

Regards,
Mike
--
*Mike Haudenschild*
Education Systems Manager
Longsight Group
(740) 599-5005 x809
m...@longsight.com
www.longsight.com



On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 13:52, Aaron Peeler  wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> We are getting close to being able to ask for graduation. Based on the
> checklist:
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#checklist
>
> We've meet many of the goals:
> - the community is growing
> - cut official releases, soon to be another one
> - good communication on user/dev mailing lists and irc channel.
> - more diversity in committers, hopefully over next month or so we can
> bring one or two more.
>
> Our current active committers are:
> Andy kurth - NCSU
> Josh Thompson - NCSU
> David Hutchins -  Not-NCSU
> Aaron Coburn - Not-NCSU
> myself(Aaron Peeler) - NCSU
>
> Part of our challenge in not graduating yet has been the diversity
> among our committers. It is/was heavily weighted with NCSU only
> committers. In order to move quicker to graduation, it would be great
> to attract one more committer. Which means being active on the list
> and submitting code for review. Other areas to be a committer can be
> with the web site or documentation, in case you are not comfortable
> with writing code.
>
> Mentors, Can you advise on other areas or issues that your think we
> need to address before we apply for graduation?
>
> Best Regards,
> Aaron
>
>
> --
> Aaron Peeler
> Program Manager
> Virtual Computing Lab
> NC State University
>
> All electronic mail messages in connection with State business which
> are sent to or received by this account are subject to the NC Public
> Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties.
>


Re: [Discuss] Graduation ? next steps

2012-02-01 Thread Kevan Miller

On Feb 1, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Mike Haudenschild wrote:

> Hi, Aaron et al. --
> 
> I'm heavily invested in VCL for two large production projects.  I'm not a
> developer, but I have extensive experience writing documentation and would
> be happy to help in that regard.
> 
> Most of my recent technical writing is proprietary, but a couple years ago
> I wrote a Moodle install doc that you could review here:
> 
> http://mhauden.com/moodle

Cool! Your contributions would be most welcome. I multiple Apache projects with 
committers who have earned their commit karma via documentation contributions 
(not code).

--kevan

Re: [Discuss] Graduation ? next steps

2012-02-01 Thread Mike Haudenschild
I'm all about good karma.  I owe the VCL guys.  Besides, I'm one of the
sick ones that actually ENJOY writing documentation.  Don't judge me!

--
*Mike Haudenschild*
Education Systems Manager
Longsight Group
(740) 599-5005 x809
m...@longsight.com
www.longsight.com



On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 14:30, Kevan Miller  wrote:

>
> On Feb 1, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Mike Haudenschild wrote:
>
> > Hi, Aaron et al. --
> >
> > I'm heavily invested in VCL for two large production projects.  I'm not a
> > developer, but I have extensive experience writing documentation and
> would
> > be happy to help in that regard.
> >
> > Most of my recent technical writing is proprietary, but a couple years
> ago
> > I wrote a Moodle install doc that you could review here:
> >
> > http://mhauden.com/moodle
>
> Cool! Your contributions would be most welcome. I multiple Apache projects
> with committers who have earned their commit karma via documentation
> contributions (not code).
>
> --kevan


Re: [Discuss] Graduation ? next steps

2012-02-02 Thread Aaron Peeler
Hi Mike,

This is great. Thank you, thank you, thank you

So the next steps (I think) are for you to file your ICLA.

Then we can discuss how we want the documentation and website to go.

Confluence is our current wiki, but that is fading. So we may want to
take this time to request a new CMS and start migrating. When we
graduate, we'll need to migrate anyway so might as well start thinking
about it now.

Aaron


On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Mike Haudenschild  wrote:
> I'm all about good karma.  I owe the VCL guys.  Besides, I'm one of the
> sick ones that actually ENJOY writing documentation.  Don't judge me!
>
> --
> *Mike Haudenschild*
> Education Systems Manager
> Longsight Group
> (740) 599-5005 x809
> m...@longsight.com
> www.longsight.com
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 14:30, Kevan Miller  wrote:
>
>>
>> On Feb 1, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Mike Haudenschild wrote:
>>
>> > Hi, Aaron et al. --
>> >
>> > I'm heavily invested in VCL for two large production projects.  I'm not a
>> > developer, but I have extensive experience writing documentation and
>> would
>> > be happy to help in that regard.
>> >
>> > Most of my recent technical writing is proprietary, but a couple years
>> ago
>> > I wrote a Moodle install doc that you could review here:
>> >
>> > http://mhauden.com/moodle
>>
>> Cool! Your contributions would be most welcome. I multiple Apache projects
>> with committers who have earned their commit karma via documentation
>> contributions (not code).
>>
>> --kevan



-- 
Aaron Peeler
Program Manager
Virtual Computing Lab
NC State University

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are sent to or received by this account are subject to the NC Public
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Re: [Discuss] Graduation ? next steps

2012-02-02 Thread Mike Haudenschild
Hi Aaron,

No problem, I'm looking forward to this work!  I submitted my contributor
agreement this morning to Apache and asked that they notify you.

If you're getting close to a 2.3 release, this will be a great time to
start developing and revising docs.  We should probably set up a time to
talk offline...?

Regards,
Mike

--
*Mike Haudenschild*
Education Systems Manager
Longsight Group
(740) 599-5005 x809
m...@longsight.com
www.longsight.com



On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 10:40, Aaron Peeler  wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> This is great. Thank you, thank you, thank you
>
> So the next steps (I think) are for you to file your ICLA.
>
> Then we can discuss how we want the documentation and website to go.
>
> Confluence is our current wiki, but that is fading. So we may want to
> take this time to request a new CMS and start migrating. When we
> graduate, we'll need to migrate anyway so might as well start thinking
> about it now.
>
> Aaron
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Mike Haudenschild 
> wrote:
> > I'm all about good karma.  I owe the VCL guys.  Besides, I'm one of the
> > sick ones that actually ENJOY writing documentation.  Don't judge me!
> >
> > --
> > *Mike Haudenschild*
> > Education Systems Manager
> > Longsight Group
> > (740) 599-5005 x809
> > m...@longsight.com
> > www.longsight.com
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 14:30, Kevan Miller 
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On Feb 1, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Mike Haudenschild wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi, Aaron et al. --
> >> >
> >> > I'm heavily invested in VCL for two large production projects.  I'm
> not a
> >> > developer, but I have extensive experience writing documentation and
> >> would
> >> > be happy to help in that regard.
> >> >
> >> > Most of my recent technical writing is proprietary, but a couple years
> >> ago
> >> > I wrote a Moodle install doc that you could review here:
> >> >
> >> > http://mhauden.com/moodle
> >>
> >> Cool! Your contributions would be most welcome. I multiple Apache
> projects
> >> with committers who have earned their commit karma via documentation
> >> contributions (not code).
> >>
> >> --kevan
>
>
>
> --
> Aaron Peeler
> Program Manager
> Virtual Computing Lab
> NC State University
>
> All electronic mail messages in connection with State business which
> are sent to or received by this account are subject to the NC Public
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>