[vdr] FF card A/V sync suggestion

[C.Y.M]

Since it has been several years now and I have never been able to solve the a/v
desync issues with my Nexus-S FF card when playing back recordings, I was
thinking about what could be done.  As of now, I have been using xine with my FF
card to fix the problem.  But, if I use xine, then even live tv is played back
over software.  The problem was never with live tv, only playing back
recordings.  What if the mplayer plugin was modified to replace the default vdr
playback for recordings.  It currently works as is, but it has problems with
split files (ie; 001.vdr, 002.vdr, etc.).  Also, it would be nice if there was
an option to replace the default playback in vdr for recordings (so we wouldnt
have to select the mplayer plugin first every time).  Just a suggestion, but
using mplayer over mpegpes would definitely be a better solution for fixing the
a/v desync instead of having to use xine for everything (since there never was a
problem with live tv).

Best Regards.

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Re: [vdr] VDR to Xine playback -- no Audio?

[C.Y.M]

mlists wrote:
> I'm running VDR 1.4.3 with hoochster's patches.  
> 
> I've install xine but I'm not getting any audio.  When vdr starts up and
> then xine -- I'm getting this:
> vdr-xine: Client connecting ...
> vdr-xine: Client connected!
> [VM]buffered 50.2 frames (v:50.2, a:0.0)
> buffered 51.5 frames (v:51.5, a:0.0)
> 
> Is this what I should see?
> 

That looks right, but it seems like alot of buffered frames.  I think mine is
set to buffer only 4 frames with a hysteric of 4.

About the sound, what i did was loop the audio output of the nexus-s back into
the line-in on my soundcard using that 1/8" stereo jack plug coming out of the
nexus.  Next, make sure you have your mixer settings correct.

Good luck..

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[vdr] VDR to Xine playback -- no Audio?

[mlists]

I'm running VDR 1.4.3 with hoochster's patches.  

I've install xine but I'm not getting any audio.  When vdr starts up and
then xine -- I'm getting this:
vdr-xine: Client connecting ...
vdr-xine: Client connected!
[VM]buffered 50.2 frames (v:50.2, a:0.0)
buffered 51.5 frames (v:51.5, a:0.0)

Is this what I should see?

Norm


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AW: [vdr] VDR (xine?) playback

[martin]

Hi Juza,

are you sure that xine actually utilizes xxmc? 10% for your system seems a
bit high CPU load. I've a Pentium M running at 1.2GHz with 3% CPU load. It's
really tricky to find the right settings in xine, where to set a checkmark
without breaking the xxmc driver. 

Start xine --verbose=1
It should report something like this. If not, you need to doublecheck your
settings.
..
video_out_xxmc: using Xv port 181 from adaptor NV17 Video Overlay for
hardware colorspace conversion and scaling.
video_out_xxmc: ignoring broken XV_HUE settings on NVidia cards
video_out_xxmc: this adaptor supports the yuy2 format.
video_out_xxmc: this adaptor supports the yv12 format.
video_out_xxmc: Unichrome CPU saving is off.
audio_alsa_out : supported modes are 8bit 16bit 24bit 32bit mono stereo
(4-channel not enabled in xine config) (4.1-channel not enabled in xine
config) (5-channel not enabled in xine config) 5.1-channel a/52 and DTS
pass-through
video_out_xxmc: VO_PROP_ASPECT_RATIO(2)
..
=== CLEAR(-5.3)
=== CLEAR(-5.4)
=== CLEAR(-5.5)
--- CLEAR(-5b)
libmpeg2: output port has XxMC capability
libmpeg2: output port has XxMC capability

* (I was searching for the reference, but it's too late for today). As far
as I remember correctly, Hardware mpeg2 can only do interlaced or bob
deinterlaced streams. So if you want hardware support, deinterlacing support
is very limited.

* I am wondering, why you want to deinterlace - since a TV set is perfectly
accepting interlaced PAL! It's its native format.

* Have you checked your X config? You will need a handcrafted modeline to
have 50Hz refresh rate.

* You also need to check your settings with nvidia-settings for "*Sync"
entries.

* Check xine while playing for stating, that frames are dropped.



So, for today I will stop here, since there are so many things which have to
be set correctly, to have a perfect picture.


Regards,
Martin


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Gesendet: Montag, 16. Oktober 2006 17:32
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Betreff: [vdr] VDR (xine?) playback 

 Hi!

I am looking for a best solution for live TV playback for VDR.
I have PC with Celeron 2.26 GHz, 512 MB RAM, nVidia FX 5200, SkyStar2
and software MPEG2 by xine (vdr-xine 0.7.9). PC is connected do
TV using SVideo TV-Out.

Now I'm using xxmc driver for xine (nVidia hardware acc.) - playback
is smooth, without jerking, but deinterlacing is low quality (both
OneField and BOB are not ideal solution). CPU usage is about 10%.

When I have tried xine xv driver with deinterlacing, picture was nice
- clear and sharp, but the playback jerking - mostly in sports programs.
CPU usage was about 30-40%

So both solutions are not perfect. Are there any other solution?
Maybe the xine should buffer some decomperessed frames? Are there any 
possibilities to set it?

Im afraid, that only FF card will work beter... If I will decide to buy 
one, which one to choose?

I have ony one PCI slot and one AGP slot (small barebone PC), so I can't
install dxr3 card...


Boguslaw Juza

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AW: [vdr] Problem with audio sync in playback - maybe caused by ntpd stepping local clock?

[martin]

Not sure, if this may relate to your problem, but ..

I use xine plugin and every once in a while I had a short interruption of
sound. Today I was tail-ing -f syslog for another reason and there was this
little glitch again! Just a very short interruption with no sound. I spent
several weekends to find out, why xine always tells me, that "fixing sound
card drift". I was p***ed by my hardware, but now I found out, what cause
the problem. It's my ntpd, that steps the clock on my VDR hardware. To fix
this, I now start ntpd with the "-x" option.

For Reference from man ntpd:
-x Ordinarily,  if  the time is to be adjusted more than 128 ms, it
  is stepped, not gradually slewed.  This option forces  the
time
  to be slewed in all cases.

Regards,
Martin

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Betreff: Re: [vdr] Problem with audio sync in playback

Tero Siironen wrote:
> On 14.10.2006 23.20, "Pasi Juppo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> This problem is yet to be fixed to my understanding. Now I have a good
>> recording (one episode from Lost) where this happens very often. The
>> problem seems to be related to situations where the scene fades black
>> before new scene. There is something strange in those situations..
>>
>> If someone has the knowledge/talent to start debugging the problem I can
>> put the recording available for downloading.
> 
> Well, I don't have knowledge for debugging, but I ran some tests. I took
few
> minutes crop from a recording of same episodes and tried it with different
> AV7110 firmwares. (TT DVB-C FF 2.1 card)
> 
> I tested with VDR 1.4.3 and test_av app included in 22623 test firmware
> package, with firmwares 261a, 261f, 2622 and that test version 22623.
> Everytime playback stuttered and lost a/v sync after scene change
situation.
> 
> So I think this is more like dvb firmware/driver problem than VDR problem.
> However this is very annoying.
> 
> 

The only way i know how to fix that is to run your FF card with some kind of
software playback (ie; xine).  I wish we had a version of firmware that
didn't
have this problem.. or at least a way for it to recover itself.

Regards.

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Re: [vdr] Problem with audio sync in playback

[Pasi Juppo]

Tero Siironen wrote:
> On 14.10.2006 23.20, "Pasi Juppo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> This problem is yet to be fixed to my understanding. Now I have a good
>> recording (one episode from Lost) where this happens very often. The
>> problem seems to be related to situations where the scene fades black
>> before new scene. There is something strange in those situations..
>>
>> If someone has the knowledge/talent to start debugging the problem I can
>> put the recording available for downloading.
> 
> Well, I don't have knowledge for debugging, but I ran some tests. I took few
> minutes crop from a recording of same episodes and tried it with different
> AV7110 firmwares. (TT DVB-C FF 2.1 card)
> 
> I tested with VDR 1.4.3 and test_av app included in 22623 test firmware
> package, with firmwares 261a, 261f, 2622 and that test version 22623.
> Everytime playback stuttered and lost a/v sync after scene change situation.
> 
> So I think this is more like dvb firmware/driver problem than VDR problem.
> However this is very annoying.

I agree, this is not VDR problem but firmware. However, I don't know
which mailing list is better to report this problem: vdr or dvb thus
I've sent this here.

Br, Pasi

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[vdr] stable version of burn

[Leo Márquez]

Hi,

I like to know what version of the burn plugin you recommend to me.
I have tested without exit the cvs and vdr-burn-0.1.0-pre21.tgz
The problem is the same, vdr crash with a boost issue related (I think)
I have been seen the 0.0.5 version. It's too old this branch?

Which version you have installed and running without problems?
My vdr is 1.4.3

Thanks.

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[vdr] VDR (xine?) playback

[Boguslaw Juza]

Hi!

I am looking for a best solution for live TV playback for VDR.
I have PC with Celeron 2.26 GHz, 512 MB RAM, nVidia FX 5200, SkyStar2
and software MPEG2 by xine (vdr-xine 0.7.9). PC is connected do
TV using SVideo TV-Out.

Now I'm using xxmc driver for xine (nVidia hardware acc.) - playback
is smooth, without jerking, but deinterlacing is low quality (both
OneField and BOB are not ideal solution). CPU usage is about 10%.

When I have tried xine xv driver with deinterlacing, picture was nice
- clear and sharp, but the playback jerking - mostly in sports programs.
CPU usage was about 30-40%

So both solutions are not perfect. Are there any other solution?
Maybe the xine should buffer some decomperessed frames? Are there any 
possibilities to set it?


Im afraid, that only FF card will work beter... If I will decide to buy 
one, which one to choose?


I have ony one PCI slot and one AGP slot (small barebone PC), so I can't
install dxr3 card...


   Boguslaw Juza

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Re: [vdr] DVD plugin - CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TEST FOR ME?

[Simon Baxter]

Could someone please confirm something for me?

Can you run the DVD plugin with VDR debugging running with various DVDs, and 
tell me if you're seeing these messages ?



PSetDigitalAudioDevice: 0
PPPClear(12)!
Play

SetDigitalAudioDevice: 0
PPPClear(13)!
Play



- Original Message - 
From: "Simon Baxter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "VDR Mailing List" 
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: [vdr] DVD plugin - sound jerky??



Is there any support for the DVD plugin?

The sourceforge site forums seem to be empty as well !


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From: "Simon Baxter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "VDR Mailing List" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: [vdr] DVD plugin - sound jerky??


It's been several months - and I never had a reply to this but it's still 
happening.


I've rebuilt several times - but it's still the same.  The dvd plugin 
works fine, except intermittently the sound disappears for about a second 
at the end of a scene.  With debugging running I get these messages when 
the sound disappears:


PPPClear(4)!
Play
Clear(5)!
SetAudioChannelDevice: 0
Clear(6)!
SetAudioChannelDevice: 0
SetDigitalAudioDevice: 0
SetDigitalAudioDevice: 0
Clear(7)!
SetDigitalAudioDevice: 0
SetDigitalAudioDevice: 0
Clear(8)!
SetDigitalAudioDevice: 0
SetDigitalAudioDevice: 0
Clear(9)!
Clear(10)!
SetAudioChannelDevice: 0
SetDigitalAudioDevice: 0
SetDigitalAudioDevice: 0
Clear(11)!
Play
SetDigitalAudioDevice: 0
P

PSetDigitalAudioDevice: 0
PPPClear(12)!
Play

SetDigitalAudioDevice: 0
PPPClear(13)!
Play


Each time the sound disappears, I get another 3-lines as per above.  If 
it's relevant, I'm using vdr-1.4.1 with vdr-xine-0.7.9.



Any clues??



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To: "VDR Mailing List" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 9:30 AM
Subject: [vdr] DVD plugin - sound jerky??


I've had this problem for ages and never found any resolution to it as 
it's really only a problem with DVDs that have a lot of chapters.


When it get towards the end of a chapter, the sound disappears.  The 
video is still fine, but the sound stops.


Are there any debugs I can run to get more info out of dvd-plugin?


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Re: [vdr] Problem with audio sync in playback

[C.Y.M]

Tero Siironen wrote:
> On 14.10.2006 23.20, "Pasi Juppo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> This problem is yet to be fixed to my understanding. Now I have a good
>> recording (one episode from Lost) where this happens very often. The
>> problem seems to be related to situations where the scene fades black
>> before new scene. There is something strange in those situations..
>>
>> If someone has the knowledge/talent to start debugging the problem I can
>> put the recording available for downloading.
> 
> Well, I don't have knowledge for debugging, but I ran some tests. I took few
> minutes crop from a recording of same episodes and tried it with different
> AV7110 firmwares. (TT DVB-C FF 2.1 card)
> 
> I tested with VDR 1.4.3 and test_av app included in 22623 test firmware
> package, with firmwares 261a, 261f, 2622 and that test version 22623.
> Everytime playback stuttered and lost a/v sync after scene change situation.
> 
> So I think this is more like dvb firmware/driver problem than VDR problem.
> However this is very annoying.
> 
> 

The only way i know how to fix that is to run your FF card with some kind of
software playback (ie; xine).  I wish we had a version of firmware that didn't
have this problem.. or at least a way for it to recover itself.

Regards.

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Re: [vdr] Problem with audio sync in playback

[Tero Siironen]

On 14.10.2006 23.20, "Pasi Juppo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This problem is yet to be fixed to my understanding. Now I have a good
> recording (one episode from Lost) where this happens very often. The
> problem seems to be related to situations where the scene fades black
> before new scene. There is something strange in those situations..
> 
> If someone has the knowledge/talent to start debugging the problem I can
> put the recording available for downloading.

Well, I don't have knowledge for debugging, but I ran some tests. I took few
minutes crop from a recording of same episodes and tried it with different
AV7110 firmwares. (TT DVB-C FF 2.1 card)

I tested with VDR 1.4.3 and test_av app included in 22623 test firmware
package, with firmwares 261a, 261f, 2622 and that test version 22623.
Everytime playback stuttered and lost a/v sync after scene change situation.

So I think this is more like dvb firmware/driver problem than VDR problem.
However this is very annoying.


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Re: [vdr] burn make crash vdr -> boost::too_many_args

[Steffen Barszus]

Leo Márquez schrieb:


Steffen thanks for your answer.

I have not found a topic with this exactly problem on this list and 
either in mantis.

I undertand that using cvs I exposed to these problems.
I try to use more stable version (vdr-burn-0.1.0-pre21.tgz 
 )


Thanks

Ok just seen that it seems to be known, but not yet fixed, i'm not sure 
if this has something to do with the cut pathname settings. I'm still on 
an older version.



Steffen Barszus wrote:


Leo Márquez schrieb:


Hi,

The burn plugins don't work for me and makes vdr crash. I have 
compiled the burn plugin with the boost-for-burn-1.33.0.tgz source 
inside buen plugins sources.

The error I see in VDR (not daemon mode) is:

terminate called after throwing an instance of 
'boost::io::too_many_args'
 what():  boost::too_many_args: format-string refered to less 
arguments than were passed

 Avortat

The last lines of dvd.log are:

[burn] + growisofs -use-the-force-luke=tty -dvd-compat -Z /dev/hdd 
-V 'SABER Y GANAR~ ' -dvd-video 
/videoteca/v0/vdr-burn.SABER_Y_GANAR__.1ENKI5/DVDAUTHOR

[burn] WARNING: /dev/hdd already carries isofs!
[burn] About to execute 'mkisofs -V SABER Y GANAR~  -dvd-video 
/videoteca/v0/vdr-burn.SABER_Y_GANAR__.1ENKI5/DVDAUTHOR | builtin_dd 
of=/dev/hdd obs=32k seek=0'



Anyone knows this problem?



Thats a known problem, and a fix/patch allready exists for that. I 
believe, that exactly this problem was discussed just a few days ago 
here on the list. As i don't use cvs at the moment , i can point you 
directly to the patch, maybe someone else can point out the location 
? If nowhere else, please have a look in the mantis bugtracker 
website of the burn plugin, it should be attached there.


Kind Regards

Steffen


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Re: [vdr] burn make crash vdr -> boost::too_many_args

[Leo Márquez]

Steffen thanks for your answer.

I have not found a topic with this exactly problem on this list and 
either in mantis.

I undertand that using cvs I exposed to these problems.
I try to use more stable version (vdr-burn-0.1.0-pre21.tgz 
 )


Thanks

Steffen Barszus wrote:

Leo Márquez schrieb:


Hi,

The burn plugins don't work for me and makes vdr crash. I have 
compiled the burn plugin with the boost-for-burn-1.33.0.tgz source 
inside buen plugins sources.

The error I see in VDR (not daemon mode) is:

terminate called after throwing an instance of 
'boost::io::too_many_args'
 what():  boost::too_many_args: format-string refered to less 
arguments than were passed

 Avortat

The last lines of dvd.log are:

[burn] + growisofs -use-the-force-luke=tty -dvd-compat -Z /dev/hdd -V 
'SABER Y GANAR~ ' -dvd-video 
/videoteca/v0/vdr-burn.SABER_Y_GANAR__.1ENKI5/DVDAUTHOR

[burn] WARNING: /dev/hdd already carries isofs!
[burn] About to execute 'mkisofs -V SABER Y GANAR~  -dvd-video 
/videoteca/v0/vdr-burn.SABER_Y_GANAR__.1ENKI5/DVDAUTHOR | builtin_dd 
of=/dev/hdd obs=32k seek=0'



Anyone knows this problem?


Thats a known problem, and a fix/patch allready exists for that. I 
believe, that exactly this problem was discussed just a few days ago 
here on the list. As i don't use cvs at the moment , i can point you 
directly to the patch, maybe someone else can point out the location ? 
If nowhere else, please have a look in the mantis bugtracker website 
of the burn plugin, it should be attached there.


Kind Regards

Steffen


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Re: [vdr] burn make crash vdr -> boost::too_many_args

[Steffen Barszus]

Leo Márquez schrieb:


Hi,

The burn plugins don't work for me and makes vdr crash. I have 
compiled the burn plugin with the boost-for-burn-1.33.0.tgz source 
inside buen plugins sources.

The error I see in VDR (not daemon mode) is:

terminate called after throwing an instance of 'boost::io::too_many_args'
 what():  boost::too_many_args: format-string refered to less 
arguments than were passed

 Avortat

The last lines of dvd.log are:

[burn] + growisofs -use-the-force-luke=tty -dvd-compat -Z /dev/hdd -V 
'SABER Y GANAR~ ' -dvd-video 
/videoteca/v0/vdr-burn.SABER_Y_GANAR__.1ENKI5/DVDAUTHOR

[burn] WARNING: /dev/hdd already carries isofs!
[burn] About to execute 'mkisofs -V SABER Y GANAR~  -dvd-video 
/videoteca/v0/vdr-burn.SABER_Y_GANAR__.1ENKI5/DVDAUTHOR | builtin_dd 
of=/dev/hdd obs=32k seek=0'



Anyone knows this problem?


Thats a known problem, and a fix/patch allready exists for that. I 
believe, that exactly this problem was discussed just a few days ago 
here on the list. As i don't use cvs at the moment , i can point you 
directly to the patch, maybe someone else can point out the location ? 
If nowhere else, please have a look in the mantis bugtracker website of 
the burn plugin, it should be attached there.


Kind Regards

Steffen


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