Re: [vdr] Media (.mkv) player on Raspberry Pi2 VDR client

2016-02-10 Thread VDR User
Gerald,

You freak out because I suggested an easier solution to yours, and
then call me a troll for correcting you on your own nonsense. I hope
you don't think you're fooling anyone with that fake b.s. Take your
temper tantrums somewhere else, or get lost.

==

Nicolas,

Sorry your thread got polluted with this garbage. Gerald has a history
of lashing out at people who disagree with him or have any criticism
about yavdr. It's pathetic but hopefully in all the nonsense you've
found a solution that suits you.

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Re: [vdr] Media (.mkv) player on Raspberry Pi2 VDR client

2016-02-10 Thread Gerald Dachs
Am 10.02.2016 um 23:45 schrieb VDR User:
> I haven't said any solution to his problem is bad and I have said I
> don't like anything. Once again I have to point out that Kodi is
> unnecessary to play mkvs. It's idiotic to even question that fact but
> if you really need "proof" then go ahead and install the vdr-mplayer
> plugin and prove it to yourself.
Of course not. You told that my solution is too complicated, you have to
prove it. I did not judge about your solution.

> It's really starting to seem teenage girl'ish so maybe you should give
> it a rest.
My fault, I should have learned over the years that you are just a troll.

Gerald

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Re: [vdr] Media (.mkv) player on Raspberry Pi2 VDR client

2016-02-10 Thread VDR User
>> He's not asking about HDMI-CEC so this is irrelevant. Additionally,
>> HDMI-CEC support can be very limited on the device end so just because
>> a device technically supports it, that doesn't automatically mean you
>> can do what you want using HDMI-CEC. And plenty of people like me
>> already use multi-device remotes so we don't have to bother with
>> configuring HDMI-CEC at all.
> I can't see why it is a problem to mention other features he would get
> with another solution.

I didn't say it was a problem, I said it's not what he's asking for.
And since you put it that way, not everybody likes a salesman who
tries to "upgrade" or "upsell" the customer to a bunch of stuff they
didn't ask for in the first place. Why is it so difficult for you to
accept there's an simple answer to his simple question that doesn't
involve Kodi.

> On an RPi? With hardware support? I don't believe that.

I didn't say anything about hardware support.

>> I'm only stating the obvious, that Kodi is absolutely unnecessary to
>> give the OP what he's asking for. There is no denying this. And, he
>> can decide if he wants to bother adding Kodi to his setup just to play
>> mkvs, or if something less extreme makes more sense.
>
> If you let him really decide you shouldn't make solutions bad without
> any proof, only
> because you don't like them.

I haven't said any solution to his problem is bad and I have said I
don't like anything. Once again I have to point out that Kodi is
unnecessary to play mkvs. It's idiotic to even question that fact but
if you really need "proof" then go ahead and install the vdr-mplayer
plugin and prove it to yourself. If you don't want to do that then you
can install the vdr-play plugin as an alternative.

> I asked you already before to explain what makes OpenELEC more
> complicated, you
> didn't answer.

Yes, I have answered that question. Feel free to refer to my previous
posts and perhaps pay better attention to what's being said.

> The only thing that is really obvious that you have no idea what you are
> talking about.

Do you have any idea how completely foolish that sounds?

> As the founder of yaVDR I have some experiences how complicated a vdr
> setup can be.
> As a contributor to OpenELEC I know how simple the setup in OE currently is.

If I'm supposed to be impressed by that, it's not working. I've been a
VDR user for nearly 15 years and have never relied on anyones
pre-compiled packages. I've automated practically every aspect from OS
install to fully working VDR, including auto-configuring things
outside of VDR. So what, who cares? This isn't about how big my
johnson is or how tiny yours seems to be. This started out with a guy
asking a simple question - how can I play mkvs in VDR? If you want to
act butthurt because someone pointed out that all it takes is the
vdr-mplayer or vdr-play plugin then start a new thread about it. I
doubt he posted to the ML in hopes of seeing someone get all sensitive
over Kodi and start acting like its' honor must be defended at all
cost.. It's really starting to seem teenage girl'ish so maybe you
should give it a rest.

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Re: [vdr] Media (.mkv) player on Raspberry Pi2 VDR client

2016-02-10 Thread Gerald Dachs
Sorry for the empty answer before.

Am 10.02.2016 um 16:58 schrieb VDR User:
>> No, absolutely not. The setup of OpenELEC is much less complicated and
>> dependencies are no problem.
>> The vdr-addon and the vnsi-addon gets installed by some clicks on the remote
>> and a first channel scan
>> needs only some clicks more.
> It's always no problem until something breaks..
That is irrelevant, because that can happen with your solution too
>> The raspberry pi has superior HDMI-CEC support that is used automatically by
>> Kodi, so in most cases
>> there is even no need for an IR receiver and an extra remote. The remote of
>> the TV is just enough. That
>> simplifies the setup even more.
> He's not asking about HDMI-CEC so this is irrelevant. Additionally,
> HDMI-CEC support can be very limited on the device end so just because
> a device technically supports it, that doesn't automatically mean you
> can do what you want using HDMI-CEC. And plenty of people like me
> already use multi-device remotes so we don't have to bother with
> configuring HDMI-CEC at all.
I can't see why it is a problem to mention other features he would get
with another solution.

>> The topic is about playing .mkv. That is just a container. What about the
>> used codecs? In the upcoming OpenELEC
>> 0.7 there will even be support of H265 on the RPi. The Kodi GUI has no
>> problems with playing 3D content.
>> Is this working with your solution too?
> I use the vdr-mplayer plugin with mpv-player (rather than mplayer).
> Yes, it works great. I've already played plenty of h265 content.
On an RPi? With hardware support? I don't believe that.

I'm only stating the obvious, that Kodi is absolutely unnecessary to
give the OP what he's asking for. There is no denying this. And, he
can decide if he wants to bother adding Kodi to his setup just to play
mkvs, or if something less extreme makes more sense.

If you let him really decide you shouldn't make solutions bad without
any proof, only
because you don't like them.
I asked you already before to explain what makes OpenELEC more
complicated, you
didn't answer.
The only thing that is really obvious that you have no idea what you are
talking about.
As the founder of yaVDR I have some experiences how complicated a vdr
setup can be.
As a contributor to OpenELEC I know how simple the setup in OE currently is.

Gerald


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Re: [vdr] Media (.mkv) player on Raspberry Pi2 VDR client

2016-02-10 Thread Gerald Dachs
Am 10.02.2016 um 16:58 schrieb VDR User:
>> No, absolutely not. The setup of OpenELEC is much less complicated and
>> dependencies are no problem.
>> The vdr-addon and the vnsi-addon gets installed by some clicks on the remote
>> and a first channel scan
>> needs only some clicks more.
> It's always no problem until something breaks..
>
>> The raspberry pi has superior HDMI-CEC support that is used automatically by
>> Kodi, so in most cases
>> there is even no need for an IR receiver and an extra remote. The remote of
>> the TV is just enough. That
>> simplifies the setup even more.
> He's not asking about HDMI-CEC so this is irrelevant. Additionally,
> HDMI-CEC support can be very limited on the device end so just because
> a device technically supports it, that doesn't automatically mean you
> can do what you want using HDMI-CEC. And plenty of people like me
> already use multi-device remotes so we don't have to bother with
> configuring HDMI-CEC at all.
>
>> The topic is about playing .mkv. That is just a container. What about the
>> used codecs? In the upcoming OpenELEC
>> 0.7 there will even be support of H265 on the RPi. The Kodi GUI has no
>> problems with playing 3D content.
>> Is this working with your solution too?
> I use the vdr-mplayer plugin with mpv-player (rather than mplayer).
> Yes, it works great. I've already played plenty of h265 content. I
> don't have a 3D capable card or tv but that works fine too. Very
> simple, very lightweight. Adding Kodi is adding a whole other layer of
> software and it's completely unnecessary. He's asking for something
> very simple, the solution should also be the same. There's no point in
> bloating his system and adding a whole other layer of software on top
> of VDR that he never asked for in the first place. You don't have to
> defend Kodi, I'm not trashing it. Kodi is nice when it's not broken.
> I'm only stating the obvious, that Kodi is absolutely unnecessary to
> give the OP what he's asking for. There is no denying this. And, he
> can decide if he wants to bother adding Kodi to his setup just to play
> mkvs, or if something less extreme makes more sense.
>
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Re: [vdr] Media (.mkv) player on Raspberry Pi2 VDR client

2016-02-10 Thread VDR User
> No, absolutely not. The setup of OpenELEC is much less complicated and
> dependencies are no problem.
> The vdr-addon and the vnsi-addon gets installed by some clicks on the remote
> and a first channel scan
> needs only some clicks more.

It's always no problem until something breaks..

> The raspberry pi has superior HDMI-CEC support that is used automatically by
> Kodi, so in most cases
> there is even no need for an IR receiver and an extra remote. The remote of
> the TV is just enough. That
> simplifies the setup even more.

He's not asking about HDMI-CEC so this is irrelevant. Additionally,
HDMI-CEC support can be very limited on the device end so just because
a device technically supports it, that doesn't automatically mean you
can do what you want using HDMI-CEC. And plenty of people like me
already use multi-device remotes so we don't have to bother with
configuring HDMI-CEC at all.

> The topic is about playing .mkv. That is just a container. What about the
> used codecs? In the upcoming OpenELEC
> 0.7 there will even be support of H265 on the RPi. The Kodi GUI has no
> problems with playing 3D content.
> Is this working with your solution too?

I use the vdr-mplayer plugin with mpv-player (rather than mplayer).
Yes, it works great. I've already played plenty of h265 content. I
don't have a 3D capable card or tv but that works fine too. Very
simple, very lightweight. Adding Kodi is adding a whole other layer of
software and it's completely unnecessary. He's asking for something
very simple, the solution should also be the same. There's no point in
bloating his system and adding a whole other layer of software on top
of VDR that he never asked for in the first place. You don't have to
defend Kodi, I'm not trashing it. Kodi is nice when it's not broken.
I'm only stating the obvious, that Kodi is absolutely unnecessary to
give the OP what he's asking for. There is no denying this. And, he
can decide if he wants to bother adding Kodi to his setup just to play
mkvs, or if something less extreme makes more sense.

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Re: [vdr] Media (.mkv) player on Raspberry Pi2 VDR client

2016-02-10 Thread Gerald Dachs

Am 2016-02-09 22:55, schrieb VDR User:

You don't need to bother with Kodi (unless you actually want to use
it). VDR + the mplayer plugin work perfectly fine. There's no point 
in

unnecessarily complicating a persons setup if that's not what they
want.
I know nothing in OpenELEC that is complicating a persons setup, what 
do

you have in mind?
At least his current setup is complicated enough so that he has no 
idea

what to do next.


He has no idea what to do next because he lacks information, not
because his setup is complicated. And, any time you bundle additional
software along with all of the dependencies that come with it, it's
just more to maintain and more that can break. What sense does that
make when all he wants to do is play mkvs? Kodi is completely
unnecessary, surely you agree.


No, absolutely not. The setup of OpenELEC is much less complicated and 
dependencies are no problem.
The vdr-addon and the vnsi-addon gets installed by some clicks on the 
remote and a first channel scan

needs only some clicks more.

The raspberry pi has superior HDMI-CEC support that is used 
automatically by Kodi, so in most cases
there is even no need for an IR receiver and an extra remote. The remote 
of the TV is just enough. That

simplifies the setup even more.

The topic is about playing .mkv. That is just a container. What about 
the used codecs? In the upcoming OpenELEC
0.7 there will even be support of H265 on the RPi. The Kodi GUI has no 
problems with playing 3D content.

Is this working with your solution too?

Gerald


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