Re: [vdr] [patch] channels with same pids+channels update

2008-04-18 Thread Thiemo
Am Samstag 12 April 2008 schrieb Udo Richter:
 Peter Evertz wrote:
  I am very interested in this feature. My providers (astra/hotbird) are
  smart enough not to send not to much garbage, but deleting of unused
  channels is really a pain. I am at 4500 Channels in my channels.conf and
  I am pretty sure that at least 30 % of them are long gone.

 I'm using a (not yet published) small patch and a (also not yet
 published) plugin to keep track of channels:

 The patch keeps a time stamp whenever a channel announcement is seen,
 and the plugin tracks the first-seen and last-seen time of all channels
Is this timestamp stored in the channels.conf? If so, what about 
compatibility?

 If there's interest in this, I can publish these two.
Yes, i would be interested. Please post it.

regards,
Thiemo

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Re: [vdr] [patch] channels with same pids+channels update

2008-04-18 Thread Udo Richter
Thiemo wrote:
 The patch keeps a time stamp whenever a channel announcement is seen,
 and the plugin tracks the first-seen and last-seen time of all channels
 Is this timestamp stored in the channels.conf? If so, what about 
 compatibility?

No, it is not, to preserve compatibility and to keep the patch minimal. 
The patch keeps this information only on a per-session base. The plugin 
then stores the information in a separate file across sessions.

 If there's interest in this, I can publish these two.
 Yes, i would be interested. Please post it.

I'll see what I can do.

Cheers,

Udo


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Re: [vdr] [patch] channels with same pids+channels update

2008-04-12 Thread Udo Richter
Peter Evertz wrote:
 I am very interested in this feature. My providers (astra/hotbird) are 
 smart enough not to send not to much garbage, but deleting of unused 
 channels is really a pain. I am at 4500 Channels in my channels.conf and 
 I am pretty sure that at least 30 % of them are long gone.

I'm using a (not yet published) small patch and a (also not yet 
published) plugin to keep track of channels:

The patch keeps a time stamp whenever a channel announcement is seen, 
and the plugin tracks the first-seen and last-seen time of all channels 
persistently. If a channel was not seen for some time, the channel name 
gets marked, and the channel can easily be deleted manually later.

If there's interest in this, I can publish these two.

Cheers,

Udo

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Re: [vdr] [patch] channels with same pids+channels update

2008-04-10 Thread Peter Evertz
ua0lnj schrieb:
 Hi
 If it's interecting for anybody.
...
 And other feature, this is deleting absent channels. If provider was 
 deleted channels, you need delete it from channels.conf manually. 
 After this patch, vdr auto deleting channels, which not present on 
 transponder in sdt. Need select delete absent channels in dvb 
 settings menu, but if you selected channels update or transponder update.
I am very interested in this feature. My providers (astra/hotbird) are 
smart enough not to send not to much garbage, but deleting of unused 
channels is really a pain. I am at 4500 Channels in my channels.conf and 
I am pretty sure that at least 30 % of them are long gone.

Is it possible to have that feature seperated ?
@kls ... and include it in the mainline ?

Best regards
Peter


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Re: [vdr] [patch] channels with same pids+channels update

2008-04-10 Thread Luca Olivetti
En/na Peter Evertz ha escrit:

 I am very interested in this feature. My providers (astra/hotbird) are 
 smart enough not to send not to much garbage, but deleting of unused 
 channels is really a pain. I am at 4500 Channels in my channels.conf and 
 I am pretty sure that at least 30 % of them are long gone.

Beware, though, that there are providers that don't advertise channels 
in the sdt even if the channels are currently broadcasting.
In the actuator plugin I have an option to prefix a '+' to all channels 
in the current satellite, then you start a channel scan which will 
update all active channels (i.e removing the '+').
At the end of the scan you can tell it to delete all channels marked 
with '+'.
It's clumsier but it's safer, since you can revise the channels that are 
going to be deleted before actually deleting them.
Of course all of this wouldn't be necessary if all broadcasters 
respected the standards

Bye
-- 
Luca


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Re: [vdr] [patch] channels with same pids+channels update

2008-04-10 Thread Dave P
On Thursday 10 Apr 2008, Peter Evertz wrote:
 ua0lnj schrieb:

  And other feature, this is deleting absent channels. If provider was
  deleted channels, you need delete it from channels.conf manually.
  After this patch, vdr auto deleting channels, which not present on
  transponder in sdt. Need select delete absent channels in dvb
  settings menu, but if you selected channels update or transponder
  update.

 I am very interested in this feature. My providers (astra/hotbird) are
 smart enough not to send not to much garbage, but deleting of unused
 channels is really a pain. I am at 4500 Channels in my channels.conf and
 I am pretty sure that at least 30 % of them are long gone.

 Is it possible to have that feature seperated ?
 @kls ... and include it in the mainline ?

Beware...
VDRadmin (and maybe other applications) uses the line number in 
channels.conf to decide whether to display a channel. Deleting defunct 
channels would mess this up.
-- 
Dave

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