Re: [vdr] How to keep the channel list tidy automatically
I have that autosort and i tworks with 1.7.7 however it has always been a problem causing segfaults regularly.Let me know if its ok for you. Mike ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
[vdr] How to keep the channel list tidy automatically (was: Timeouts and lost locks)
On Sat, 2009-05-23 at 11:47 +0200, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: ... You could also remove all unwanted channels from your list and set DVB/Update channels to names and PIDs. Then the EPG scan would only switch through the desired transponders. I believe there is room for improvement. Of course I want *all* channels I can use and I want new channels, too, if can use them. And I do not want to go through my list of channels manually all the time, find those that I cannot view and delete them manually. I believe VDR could do a much better (more thorough, less error-prone) job at that than I ever could. Here is a list of improvements that would greatly help maintaining a clean and useful channel list: 1) When VDR does its EPG scan, it switches to all channels anyway. Why not test each channel and see if it actually delivers data? If it does, set a new configuration field to 0. If it does not, increment that field by one. Lets call this field the absent value. The reason why we do not get any data does not matter. Maybe the channel is temporarily not broadcasting. Maybe it has ceased to exist. Maybe I do not have a cam for it. Maybe I have a suitable cam, but no subscription. 2) When zapping, automatically skip channels that have an absent value of 5 (maybe that value should be configurable). 3) Do not display channels anywhere that have an absent value of 5 (maybe that value should be configurable. If you set it to zero, all useless channels will show up again). 4) A cleanup run could remove all channels that have an absent value that exceeds a certain number (maybe 50). 5) You could define additional criteria that would increment the absent value during an EPG scan. For example: 5a) the channel does not broadcast one of the audio languages that I have configured as the set of languages that I can understand. 5b) the channel broadcasts video, but with less than 1 Mbit/s. (That would get rid of all those advertising channels which only broadcast slide shows). Cheers, Carsten. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] How to keep the channel list tidy automatically
On 05/23/09 12:44, Carsten Koch wrote: On Sat, 2009-05-23 at 11:47 +0200, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: ... You could also remove all unwanted channels from your list and set DVB/Update channels to names and PIDs. Then the EPG scan would only switch through the desired transponders. I believe there is room for improvement. Of course I want *all* channels I can use and I want new channels, too, if can use them. And I do not want to go through my list of channels manually all the time, find those that I cannot view and delete them manually. I believe VDR could do a much better (more thorough, less error-prone) job at that than I ever could. Here is a list of improvements that would greatly help maintaining a clean and useful channel list: 1) When VDR does its EPG scan, it switches to all channels anyway. Why not test each channel and see if it actually delivers data? Actually it only tunes to *transponders*, not individual channels. If it does, set a new configuration field to 0. If it does not, increment that field by one. Lets call this field the absent value. The reason why we do not get any data does not matter. Maybe the channel is temporarily not broadcasting. Maybe it has ceased to exist. Maybe I do not have a cam for it. Maybe I have a suitable cam, but no subscription. 2) When zapping, automatically skip channels that have an absent value of 5 (maybe that value should be configurable). 3) Do not display channels anywhere that have an absent value of 5 (maybe that value should be configurable. If you set it to zero, all useless channels will show up again). 4) A cleanup run could remove all channels that have an absent value that exceeds a certain number (maybe 50). 5) You could define additional criteria that would increment the absent value during an EPG scan. For example: 5a) the channel does not broadcast one of the audio languages that I have configured as the set of languages that I can understand. 5b) the channel broadcasts video, but with less than 1 Mbit/s. (That would get rid of all those advertising channels which only broadcast slide shows). Sounds like a perfect task for a plugin - with tons of config parameters and endless threads about what makes sense and what doesn't ;-) (SCNR). At any rate, it's way too complex for the core VDR code, and goes against the KISS principle. Klaus ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] How to keep the channel list tidy automatically
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: On 05/23/09 12:44, Carsten Koch wrote: On Sat, 2009-05-23 at 11:47 +0200, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: ... You could also remove all unwanted channels from your list and set DVB/Update channels to names and PIDs. Then the EPG scan would only switch through the desired transponders. I believe there is room for improvement. Of course I want *all* channels I can use and I want new channels, too, if can use them. And I do not want to go through my list of channels manually all the time, find those that I cannot view and delete them manually. I believe VDR could do a much better (more thorough, less error-prone) job at that than I ever could. Here is a list of improvements that would greatly help maintaining a clean and useful channel list: 1) When VDR does its EPG scan, it switches to all channels anyway. Why not test each channel and see if it actually delivers data? Actually it only tunes to *transponders*, not individual channels. If it does, set a new configuration field to 0. If it does not, increment that field by one. Lets call this field the absent value. The reason why we do not get any data does not matter. Maybe the channel is temporarily not broadcasting. Maybe it has ceased to exist. Maybe I do not have a cam for it. Maybe I have a suitable cam, but no subscription. 2) When zapping, automatically skip channels that have an absent value of 5 (maybe that value should be configurable). 3) Do not display channels anywhere that have an absent value of 5 (maybe that value should be configurable. If you set it to zero, all useless channels will show up again). 4) A cleanup run could remove all channels that have an absent value that exceeds a certain number (maybe 50). 5) You could define additional criteria that would increment the absent value during an EPG scan. For example: 5a) the channel does not broadcast one of the audio languages that I have configured as the set of languages that I can understand. 5b) the channel broadcasts video, but with less than 1 Mbit/s. (That would get rid of all those advertising channels which only broadcast slide shows). Sounds like a perfect task for a plugin - with tons of config parameters and endless threads about what makes sense and what doesn't ;-) (SCNR). There used to be a plugin ,'autosort' i believe, which did some of those things. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] How to keep the channel list tidy automatically
There used to be a plugin ,'autosort' i believe, which did some of those things. http://www.vdr-wiki.de/wiki/index.php/Autosort-plugin http://www.copypointburscheid.de/linux/autosort.htm home page of that plugin doesn't work where is it possible to download that plugin for vdr 1.7.7 ? Goga ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] How to keep the channel list tidy automatically
Goga777 wrote: There used to be a plugin ,'autosort' i believe, which did some of those things. http://www.vdr-wiki.de/wiki/index.php/Autosort-plugin http://www.copypointburscheid.de/linux/autosort.htm home page of that plugin doesn't work where is it possible to download that plugin for vdr 1.7.7 ? I have no idea, I have vdr-autosort-0.1.3.tgz file, dated 1.4.2007 so I'm sure it needs work, to run with vdr-1.7.7 I can mail it to you if you like, its only 40kb file. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] How to keep the channel list tidy automatically
There used to be a plugin ,'autosort' i believe, which did some of those things. http://www.vdr-wiki.de/wiki/index.php/Autosort-plugin http://www.copypointburscheid.de/linux/autosort.htm home page of that plugin doesn't work where is it possible to download that plugin for vdr 1.7.7 ? I have no idea, I have vdr-autosort-0.1.3.tgz file, dated 1.4.2007 so I'm sure it needs work, to run with vdr-1.7.7 I can mail it to you if you like, its only 40kb file. thanks I found it here http://www.copypointburscheid.de/linux/vdr-autosort-0.1.3.tgz Goga ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
