Re: [vdr] Windows remote client

2008-11-24 Thread jori.hamalainen
 If you want to play H264 and/or HD content, this is not a good solution 
 and you cannot consider use a light client to do that

There is a good solution but it needs work. Popcorn Hour (and compatible)
networked media tanks can replay SD/HD content, on there has been work 
ongoing to fix vdr-streamdev to provide proper TS-stream. 

PCH is light client, some people has measured 12W power on HDD spun up 
and playing stream. PCH is a Linux based settop-box where you can get 
access to shell level and even crosscompile programs with toolchains. 
Box is about 27x13x3cm. HDD is optional but you should install it for
best benefit.

(http://www.popcornhour.com/onlinestore/index.php?pluginoption=catalogtask=
infoitem_id=6main_id=0)

What is needed is Vomp-like or VDRadmin-am-like user interface for streams
and files. It would make PCH as a top alternative of todays front-end for
VDR, and in general a front end to all media you have.

For GB-PVR there is already some work done.
http://gbpvr.com/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Hardware/NMT

With this device you can discard HTPC's at once unless you do web browsing
with your TV-set.



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Re: [vdr] Windows remote client

2008-11-22 Thread Matthias Fechner
Hi,

[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
 The best solution, at my opinion, is to use the plugin vomp under vdr and run
 the vompclient under windows, you will have access to channels, records and
 timers
 
 http://www.loggytronic.com/vomp.php

thanks a lot for that tip.
I tried it and now I can watch my recordings and live view from my
windows PC :)
Great software!

Bye
Matthias

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Re: [vdr] Windows remote client

2008-11-21 Thread Theunis Potgieter
VLC runs on *nix and Windows, I've read where streamdev is combined with vlc
enables the stream to be multicast.

On 20/11/2008, Alex Betis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello all,

 Is there a plugin for VDR (I use 1.7.1) that allows a windows based client
 to watch the channels remotely?
 What windows based clients can I use in that case?

 Is there a network overhead for watching a stream? I mean if the stream is
 5Mbit, will it take 5Mbit of my network or the traffic will take more?
 In case the client is used with a small window that can't show the whole
 picture, will the network load be reduced?

 Thanks.


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Re: [vdr] Windows remote client

2008-11-21 Thread Alex Betis
I've decided to use VLC with streamdev, works fine for now.
Not sure about multicast, it works with unicast streams, but since I have
only one remote client it doesn't matter for me.

Thanks everybody for replies.

On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Theunis Potgieter 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 VLC runs on *nix and Windows, I've read where streamdev is combined with
 vlc enables the stream to be multicast.


 On 20/11/2008, Alex Betis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello all,

 Is there a plugin for VDR (I use 1.7.1) that allows a windows based client
 to watch the channels remotely?
 What windows based clients can I use in that case?

 Is there a network overhead for watching a stream? I mean if the stream is
 5Mbit, will it take 5Mbit of my network or the traffic will take more?
 In case the client is used with a small window that can't show the whole
 picture, will the network load be reduced?

 Thanks.



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[vdr] Windows remote client

2008-11-20 Thread Alex Betis
Hello all,

Is there a plugin for VDR (I use 1.7.1) that allows a windows based client
to watch the channels remotely?
What windows based clients can I use in that case?

Is there a network overhead for watching a stream? I mean if the stream is
5Mbit, will it take 5Mbit of my network or the traffic will take more?
In case the client is used with a small window that can't show the whole
picture, will the network load be reduced?

Thanks.
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Re: [vdr] Windows remote client

2008-11-20 Thread dplu
Hi

The best solution, at my opinion, is to use the plugin vomp under vdr and run
the vompclient under windows, you will have access to channels, records and
timers

http://www.loggytronic.com/vomp.php

Best regards

Selon Alex Betis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hello all,

 Is there a plugin for VDR (I use 1.7.1) that allows a windows based client
 to watch the channels remotely?
 What windows based clients can I use in that case?

 Is there a network overhead for watching a stream? I mean if the stream is
 5Mbit, will it take 5Mbit of my network or the traffic will take more?
 In case the client is used with a small window that can't show the whole
 picture, will the network load be reduced?

 Thanks.




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Re: [vdr] Windows remote client

2008-11-20 Thread Laz
On Thursday 20 Nov 2008, Alex Betis wrote:
 Hello all,

 Is there a plugin for VDR (I use 1.7.1) that allows a windows based
 client to watch the channels remotely?
 What windows based clients can I use in that case?

 Is there a network overhead for watching a stream? I mean if the stream
 is 5Mbit, will it take 5Mbit of my network or the traffic will take
 more? In case the client is used with a small window that can't show
 the whole picture, will the network load be reduced?

One option is the vomp plugin which has a client built to run under 
windows.

See: http://www.loggytronic.com/vomp.php

I've only had a quick play with the windows client but it worked 
reasonably well. I _think_ it will do both live TV and recordings but, as 
I say, it was a while back that I tried the windows client (I regularly 
use the MediaMVP client, though, and it works really well).

Other options might be streamdev and vlc?

Cheers,

Laz

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Re: [vdr] Windows remote client

2008-11-20 Thread Alex Betis
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 7:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi

 The best solution, at my opinion, is to use the plugin vomp under vdr and
 run
 the vompclient under windows, you will have access to channels, records and
 timers

 http://www.loggytronic.com/vomp.php

Thanks. Nice project. I'll try to use it, few questions still bother me.
What is MVP that that client was intended to use?
Why creating its own GUI and not pass the output of VDR (with all the menus)
on the network to the client as VLC and streamdev do it?
Maybe the intention was to pass only DVB traffic...

Anyone tried to use the VOMP client as an output device on Linux instead of
xine or softdevice?

Thanks!




 Best regards

 Selon Alex Betis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Hello all,
 
  Is there a plugin for VDR (I use 1.7.1) that allows a windows based
 client
  to watch the channels remotely?
  What windows based clients can I use in that case?
 
  Is there a network overhead for watching a stream? I mean if the stream
 is
  5Mbit, will it take 5Mbit of my network or the traffic will take more?
  In case the client is used with a small window that can't show the whole
  picture, will the network load be reduced?
 
  Thanks.
 


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Re: [vdr] Windows remote client

2008-11-20 Thread Gavin Hamill
On Thu, 2008-11-20 at 21:04 +0200, Alex Betis wrote:

 
 Thanks. Nice project. I'll try to use it, few questions still bother
 me.
 What is MVP that that client was intended to use?

Hauppauge MediaMVP - small hardware device that was supposed to use its
own Hauppauge Windows software as its 'server' - the vomp plugins allow
VDR to be the server for these devices.

 Why creating its own GUI and not pass the output of VDR (with all the
 menus) on the network to the client as VLC and streamdev do it?
 Maybe the intention was to pass only DVB traffic...

The vomp windows client seems to be a software implementation of the
MediaMVP hardware, so hence it's using the same protocols :) There is no
standard method by which to 'pass all the menus on the network'... 

 Anyone tried to use the VOMP client as an output device on Linux
 instead of xine or softdevice?

Yes, works fine. I use it from time to time with a full-featured card.
Mainly I just stream a single channel with VLC, tho :)

gdh




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Re: [vdr] Windows remote client

2008-11-20 Thread Peer Oliver Schmidt
Alex Betis wrote:

 http://www.loggytronic.com/vomp.php

 Thanks. Nice project. I'll try to use it, few questions still bother me.
 What is MVP that that client was intended to use?

The Hauppauge MediaMVP is a small settop box.

 Why creating its own GUI and not pass the output of VDR (with all the 
 menus) on the network to the client as VLC and streamdev do it?

Because it is faster to create a text GUI on the box, instead of 
transferring the OSD over the wire.

 Maybe the intention was to pass only DVB traffic...
 
 Anyone tried to use the VOMP client as an output device on Linux instead 
 of xine or softdevice?

I am using it with the MediaMVP box, and LOVE it. Recently looked at 
the Windows version, and it was quite usable as well. The Qt port is 
very early, but might already be usable (not tested).
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Re: [vdr] Windows remote client

2008-11-20 Thread dplu
Hi

No it does not play H264 .. but latest release of mpv plugin can play mp3 trough
media menu .. never test it personnaly but heard it work.

If you want to play H264 and/or HD content, this is not a good solution and you
cannot consider use a light client to do that

Best regards

Selon Alex Betis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Any ideas if it can decode MPEG4 and playback mp3?


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Re: [vdr] Windows remote client

2008-11-20 Thread Alex Betis
Any ideas if it can decode MPEG4 and playback mp3?

On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Gavin Hamill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 2008-11-20 at 21:04 +0200, Alex Betis wrote:

 
  Thanks. Nice project. I'll try to use it, few questions still bother
  me.
  What is MVP that that client was intended to use?

 Hauppauge MediaMVP - small hardware device that was supposed to use its
 own Hauppauge Windows software as its 'server' - the vomp plugins allow
 VDR to be the server for these devices.

  Why creating its own GUI and not pass the output of VDR (with all the
  menus) on the network to the client as VLC and streamdev do it?
  Maybe the intention was to pass only DVB traffic...

 The vomp windows client seems to be a software implementation of the
 MediaMVP hardware, so hence it's using the same protocols :) There is no
 standard method by which to 'pass all the menus on the network'...

  Anyone tried to use the VOMP client as an output device on Linux
  instead of xine or softdevice?

 Yes, works fine. I use it from time to time with a full-featured card.
 Mainly I just stream a single channel with VLC, tho :)

 gdh




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[vdr] Windows remote client

2008-11-20 Thread jean-paul
Please  use the multiproto drivers from manu and vdr 1.7.0 and patches  
. incl streamdev. For windows vdr zapper for remote controle and EPG.  
The client it self is MPC  Media Player classic. 6.4.9.0. Do not use  
newer versions they are not compatible. Gabest mpreg splitter doesn?t  
recognize 1080I streams any more. The best quatility can get with  
coreavc(HDTV  and powerdvd/SD decoders.



JP



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