Re: [vdr] Does anyone see this or is the VDR mailing list broken?

2013-02-08 Thread Marx

On 08.02.2013 02:46, Torgeir Veimo wrote:

I would be very interested in having the vanilla VDR gui available all
the time in XBMC, but this is just for accessing settings through the
menus.
What you miss besides settings? Playing functions, EPG etc are quite 
good in XBMC via VNSI

Marx


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Re: [vdr] Does anyone see this or is the VDR mailing list broken?

2013-02-08 Thread Torgeir Veimo
Functionality is there, but it's just not as smooth sailing with the
remote in hand, eg. green button for schedule, red for recordings.



On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Marx acc.for.n...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 08.02.2013 02:46, Torgeir Veimo wrote:

 I would be very interested in having the vanilla VDR gui available all
 the time in XBMC, but this is just for accessing settings through the
 menus.

 What you miss besides settings? Playing functions, EPG etc are quite good in
 XBMC via VNSI
 Marx



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Re: [vdr] Does anyone see this or is the VDR mailing list broken?

2013-02-08 Thread Brian-Imap

On 08.02.2013 10:38, Torgeir Veimo wrote:

Functionality is there, but it's just not as smooth sailing with the
remote in hand, eg. green button for schedule, red for recordings.



On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Marx acc.for.n...@gmail.com wrote:

On 08.02.2013 02:46, Torgeir Veimo wrote:


I would be very interested in having the vanilla VDR gui available all
the time in XBMC, but this is just for accessing settings through the
menus.


What you miss besides settings? Playing functions, EPG etc are quite good in
XBMC via VNSI
Marx



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I use XVDR and miss in some ways the plain old Vanilla VDR GUI.
Maybe its possible with configuration, but I would like to push
XBMC to the background and be able to use all remote keys in XVDR as if 
I was working natively with VDR, then maybe a single key press to get 
back to normal XBMC functionality. Its a WAF thing.


Cheers

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Re: [vdr] Does anyone see this or is the VDR mailing list broken?

2013-02-08 Thread Marx

On 08.02.2013 11:00, Brian-Imap wrote:

I use XVDR and miss in some ways the plain old Vanilla VDR GUI.
Maybe its possible with configuration, but I would like to push
XBMC to the background and be able to use all remote keys in XVDR as if
I was working natively with VDR, then maybe a single key press to get
back to normal XBMC functionality. Its a WAF thing.


It's probably possible with XMBC Advanced launcher plugin. I hovewer 
didn't succeed in compiling softhddevice to check it

Marx


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Re: [vdr] Does anyone see this or is the VDR mailing list broken?

2013-02-08 Thread Morfsta
 I use XVDR and miss in some ways the plain old Vanilla VDR GUI.
 Maybe its possible with configuration, but I would like to push
 XBMC to the background and be able to use all remote keys in XVDR as if I
 was working natively with VDR, then maybe a single key press to get back to
 normal XBMC functionality. Its a WAF thing.

Look at yavdr, it provides that but the other way around and for me
that is preferable as we watch TV / recordings much more than using
XBMC to listen to music or watch videos.

You use vanilla VDR as the base, then when you need XBMC you call it
either via the desktop/mouse or via the VDR menu
(Applications/Media/XBMC). When you exit XBMC it seamlessly goes back
into VDR.

I found that remote control and sound (including AC3 and DTS) work
seamlessly out of the box now with the latest version.

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Re: [vdr] Does anyone see this or is the VDR mailing list broken?

2013-02-08 Thread Torgeir Veimo
The purpose for me would be to run a VDR client on a raspberry pi.
XBMC already runs there and I've used it a bit with VNSI, but until I
can get the native GUI running on XBMC, it's not WAF ready. I assume
whenever libxine is finally able to make use of the hw accelerated
decoding, xinelibplugin will supply what's needed.

On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Morfsta morf...@gmail.com wrote:
 I use XVDR and miss in some ways the plain old Vanilla VDR GUI.
 Maybe its possible with configuration, but I would like to push
 XBMC to the background and be able to use all remote keys in XVDR as if I
 was working natively with VDR, then maybe a single key press to get back to
 normal XBMC functionality. Its a WAF thing.

 Look at yavdr, it provides that but the other way around and for me
 that is preferable as we watch TV / recordings much more than using
 XBMC to listen to music or watch videos.

 You use vanilla VDR as the base, then when you need XBMC you call it
 either via the desktop/mouse or via the VDR menu
 (Applications/Media/XBMC). When you exit XBMC it seamlessly goes back
 into VDR.

 I found that remote control and sound (including AC3 and DTS) work
 seamlessly out of the box now with the latest version.

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Re: [vdr] Does anyone see this or is the VDR mailing list broken?

2013-02-08 Thread Morfsta
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Torgeir Veimo torg...@pobox.com wrote:
 The purpose for me would be to run a VDR client on a raspberry pi.
 XBMC already runs there and I've used it a bit with VNSI, but until I
 can get the native GUI running on XBMC, it's not WAF ready. I assume
 whenever libxine is finally able to make use of the hw accelerated
 decoding, xinelibplugin will supply what's needed.

Yes, I have a few Pis too, I posted awhile ago as to whether anyone
had had any joy with getting a VDR client running on it but didn't get
a response.

I would much prefer to use a Pi as a client, rather than run it
through XBMC which seems very laggy as a PVR on a Pi.

Is anyone working on xine acceleration for the Pi do you know?

Thanks

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Re: [vdr] Does anyone see this or is the VDR mailing list broken?

2013-02-08 Thread Torgeir Veimo
Not using xine i think. There's the vompclient, which uses a different
OSD altogether from vanilla VDR. It works fairly well. XBMC with PVR
addition using VNSI also works fairly well. Both have some glitches
currently though, eg when you get a window overlay in XBMC (eg. the
schedule), video playback starts to stutter and move along at half
speed.

On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Morfsta morf...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Torgeir Veimo torg...@pobox.com wrote:
 The purpose for me would be to run a VDR client on a raspberry pi.
 XBMC already runs there and I've used it a bit with VNSI, but until I
 can get the native GUI running on XBMC, it's not WAF ready. I assume
 whenever libxine is finally able to make use of the hw accelerated
 decoding, xinelibplugin will supply what's needed.

 Yes, I have a few Pis too, I posted awhile ago as to whether anyone
 had had any joy with getting a VDR client running on it but didn't get
 a response.

 I would much prefer to use a Pi as a client, rather than run it
 through XBMC which seems very laggy as a PVR on a Pi.

 Is anyone working on xine acceleration for the Pi do you know?

 Thanks

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Re: [vdr] Does anyone see this or is the VDR mailing list broken?

2013-02-08 Thread Torgeir Veimo
Maybe someone should to donate a Raspberry Pi to Klaus so that he is
caught by that pi-fever as well..

On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Torgeir Veimo torg...@pobox.com wrote:
 Not using xine i think. There's the vompclient, which uses a different
 OSD altogether from vanilla VDR. It works fairly well. XBMC with PVR
 addition using VNSI also works fairly well. Both have some glitches
 currently though, eg when you get a window overlay in XBMC (eg. the
 schedule), video playback starts to stutter and move along at half
 speed.

 On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Morfsta morf...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Torgeir Veimo torg...@pobox.com wrote:
 The purpose for me would be to run a VDR client on a raspberry pi.
 XBMC already runs there and I've used it a bit with VNSI, but until I
 can get the native GUI running on XBMC, it's not WAF ready. I assume
 whenever libxine is finally able to make use of the hw accelerated
 decoding, xinelibplugin will supply what's needed.

 Yes, I have a few Pis too, I posted awhile ago as to whether anyone
 had had any joy with getting a VDR client running on it but didn't get
 a response.

 I would much prefer to use a Pi as a client, rather than run it
 through XBMC which seems very laggy as a PVR on a Pi.

 Is anyone working on xine acceleration for the Pi do you know?

 Thanks

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Re: [vdr] Does anyone see this or is the VDR mailing list broken?

2013-02-08 Thread Torgeir Veimo
Which devices are you thinking about, that can be had for $35, uses
less than 5w power and which can do accelerated playback of
mpeg2/h.264 with open source software?

On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 1:46 AM, VDR User user@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 6:15 AM, Torgeir Veimo torg...@pobox.com wrote:
 Maybe someone should to donate a Raspberry Pi to Klaus so that he is
 caught by that pi-fever as well..

 I have an extra Raspberry Pi sitting here but I don't see what good
 sending it to Klaus would do. The Raspberry Pi is very slow doing
 everything besides hardware accelerated h264 and mpeg2 (if you paid
 for the codec) decoding. Compiling on it, updating it, etc... is
 terrible! There are other similar devices with far better capabilities
 and speed to be honest.

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Re: [vdr] Does anyone see this or is the VDR mailing list broken?

2013-02-08 Thread VDR User
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Torgeir Veimo torg...@pobox.com wrote:
 Which devices are you thinking about, that can be had for $35, uses
 less than 5w power and which can do accelerated playback of
 mpeg2/h.264 with open source software?

If you want a low-power device for $35 that does hw-accel decoding of
h264, and additionally mpeg2 if you purchase the codec, then you
should buy a Raspberry Pi. If you want a device with sata, a faster
cpu, hw-accel h264  mpeg2 standard, dedicated ethernet that doesn't
piggyback the usb bus, run linux (ubuntu, debian, and arch seems to be
common) or android, don't have issues with Netflix, etc... then look
into all the alternatives available now. Most are in a similar price
range or ball park. Some are more expensive like the Minix NEO-G4-108A
($61.99 at newegg) but you also get more for your money; hdmi adapter,
usb cable, power adapter, remote control, 8gb storage..

There's nothing special about the Raspberry Pi. It was somewhat unique
when it first came out but there are several (most are ARM/Mali400)
boards out. Of all these types of devices that have hit the market
recently, the Raspberry Pi is probably the least powerful of them all.
Some people even refer to it as crippled because of design choices.
BTW, you should remember that the $35 Raspberry Pi isn't usable
out-of-the-box. It doesn't come with any cables, any storage, any
power source, nothing but the board itself. You aren't paying $35 for
a usable device -- it's $35 + $sd card + $cables (usb/hdmi) + $power
supply at a minimum.

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Re: [vdr] Does anyone see this or is the VDR mailing list broken?

2013-02-07 Thread Marx

On 07.02.2013 01:07, Lars Hanisch wrote:

Am 07.02.2013 00:40, schrieb VDR User:

A few people have expressed concern now so I'm sending a test posting out.


  Everything fine here, last post was from 2013-01-31...
  Or have I missed something...? :)


yes it works. But I also had some concerns because nobody were 
interested in GUI integration of VDR into XBMC

Marx


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Re: [vdr] Does anyone see this or is the VDR mailing list broken?

2013-02-07 Thread VDR User
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 11:51 PM, Marx acc.for.n...@gmail.com wrote:
 A few people have expressed concern now so I'm sending a test posting
 out.

   Everything fine here, last post was from 2013-01-31...
   Or have I missed something...? :)

 yes it works. But I also had some concerns because nobody were interested in
 GUI integration of VDR into XBMC

I've heard people mention a desire for that many times, I'm surprised
nobody replied!

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Re: [vdr] Does anyone see this or is the VDR mailing list broken?

2013-02-07 Thread Brian-Imap

On 07.02.2013 08:51, Marx wrote:

On 07.02.2013 01:07, Lars Hanisch wrote:

Am 07.02.2013 00:40, schrieb VDR User:

A few people have expressed concern now so I'm sending a test posting
out.


  Everything fine here, last post was from 2013-01-31...
  Or have I missed something...? :)


yes it works. But I also had some concerns because nobody were
interested in GUI integration of VDR into XBMC
Marx


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Hi, I'm very interested, just ill at the moment. Finally ironed out the 
last kinks in XBMC using XVDR before I got ill.


Cheers Brian

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Re: [vdr] Does anyone see this or is the VDR mailing list broken?

2013-02-06 Thread Lars Hanisch
Am 07.02.2013 00:40, schrieb VDR User:
 A few people have expressed concern now so I'm sending a test posting out.

 Everything fine here, last post was from 2013-01-31...
 Or have I missed something...? :)

Lars.

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Re: [vdr] Does anyone see this or is the VDR mailing list broken?

2013-02-06 Thread Scott Waye
Received ok here.

-Original Message-
From: VDR User user@gmail.com
Sent: ‎06/‎02/‎2013 23:43
To: mailing list: vdr vdr@linuxtv.org
Subject: [vdr] Does anyone see this or is the VDR mailing list broken?


A few people have expressed concern now so I'm sending a test posting out.

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Re: [vdr] Does anyone see this or is the VDR mailing list broken?

2013-02-06 Thread VDR User
Thanks for the replies. The ml must be working ok so I guess the
inactivity the last week or so was just a false alarm. :)

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