Re: [vdr] projects.vdr-developer.org might come to an end

2022-05-25 Thread Manuel Reimer

In the end each individual developer has to decide where he wants to
continue his development.

Years ago a small group of VDR users already created a possible
alternative here:

https://vdr-projects.github.io/
https://github.com/vdr-projects

This GitHub organization has a similar goal as
projects.vdr-developer.org had. Somewhat "organize" VDR related
development and (if the developer wants that) hosting repositories in
context of this GitHub organization to make it possible to hand over the
whole project to a new maintainer if the current maintainer, for
whatever reason, no longer continues to maintain his project for a
considerable amount of time or actively abandons it.

If one of the developers, who is still active on
projects.vdr-developer.org, wants to continue his work in context of the
vdr-projects GitHub organization, then I could migrate his project over.
Best starting point for this would be to create an Issue here:

https://github.com/vdr-projects/vdr-projects.github.io/issues

Then I would also directly have the GitHub user name to give full
permissions on the newly created project.

Manuel


On 24.05.22 21:33, Tobi wrote:

Hi!

Over the last years, the projects.vdr-developer.org site was hosted on a
server sponsored by Xeatre.tv. This server will now go offline on June, 7'th.

Currently there are about 10 projects with activity in the last 12 months.

I haven't made a final decision on how to proceed, but I'm leaning towards
taking the site offline. In this case I will archive the git repositories
on gitlab or github and possibly keep a read-only instance of Redmine on
my private vServer for a while.

Let me know, what you think. If there are many comments in favor of
keeping the site online, I'm sure I can find a solution.

BR,

Tobias

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Re: [vdr] projects.vdr-developer.org might come to an end

2022-05-25 Thread Richard F
I find it regularly useful, and refer to the pages from some of the 
plugins I use. So sad to see these things that look thousands of hours 
to create and debug now falling by the wayside.  And once you get used 
to it, the Redmine markdown is actually quite a good workmanlike 
solution for documenting stuff, a lot better than GitHub typical pages 
anyway.  Pity to lose that. A big vote for keeping it from me !


I was contemplating a new release of my transcoder 
(https://projects.vdr-developer.org/projects/vdr-convert/wiki), but 
perhaps that will need to wait. Quite a few additional features ready.


cheers

Richard


On 24/05/2022 20:33, Tobi wrote:

Hi!

Over the last years, the projects.vdr-developer.org site was hosted on a
server sponsored by Xeatre.tv. This server will now go offline on June, 7'th.

Currently there are about 10 projects with activity in the last 12 months.

I haven't made a final decision on how to proceed, but I'm leaning towards
taking the site offline. In this case I will archive the git repositories
on gitlab or github and possibly keep a read-only instance of Redmine on
my private vServer for a while.

Let me know, what you think. If there are many comments in favor of
keeping the site online, I'm sure I can find a solution.

BR,

Tobias




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Re: [vdr] projects.vdr-developer.org might come to an end

2022-05-26 Thread Manuel Reimer

On 25.05.22 20:11, Richard F wrote:

I find it regularly useful, and refer to the pages from some of the
plugins I use. So sad to see these things that look thousands of hours
to create and debug now falling by the wayside.  And once you get used
to it, the Redmine markdown is actually quite a good workmanlike
solution for documenting stuff, a lot better than GitHub typical pages
anyway.  Pity to lose that. A big vote for keeping it from me !


Out of curiosity I had a look at how Redmine syntax looks like and for
me this looked a lot like "not Markdown". I did some search and the
syntax seems to be actually called "Textile":
https://www.redmine.org/boards/2/topics/41244

And there even exists a way to convert this to actual Markdown
automatically:
https://github.blog/2016-03-01-upgrading-your-textile-posts-to-markdown/

I did a try with the pandoc "try it out" page and this seems to work
just fine: https://pandoc.org/try/

GitHub Wikis (and GitHub pages, too) use actual Markdown and there is a
nice online editor to have direct feedback on how the result will look
like (you can still write plain Markdown text but get a rendering
immediately):

https://stackedit.io/app#


Manuel

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Re: [vdr] projects.vdr-developer.org might come to an end

2022-06-16 Thread Manuel Reimer

On 24.05.22 21:33, Tobi wrote:

Over the last years, the projects.vdr-developer.org site was hosted on a
server sponsored by Xeatre.tv. This server will now go offline on June, 7'th.


At least for now it still seems to run...


I haven't made a final decision on how to proceed, but I'm leaning towards
taking the site offline. In this case I will archive the git repositories
on gitlab or github and possibly keep a read-only instance of Redmine on
my private vServer for a while.


I have not checked in detail but I think most of Redmine is already
archived by archive.org.

If you have a definitive date where the server will shut down, then I
could make sure that all repos are archived over to
https://github.com/vdr-projects where many projects are already mirrored
to (many probably outdated as at some point the automated mirror service
was disabled).

Manuel

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Re: [vdr] projects.vdr-developer.org might come to an end

2022-07-06 Thread Tobi
Hello!

The projects.vdr-developer.org server has been shut down tonight. RIP!

I will provide a readonly-mirror of the Redmine projects, tickets and
downloads as well as all the git repositories on:

https://vdr-projects.e-tobi.net
https://vdr-projects.e-tobi.net/git

This is still work in progress, but I will have everything up and running
by the end of the week.

BR,
Tobias


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Re: [vdr] projects.vdr-developer.org might come to an end

2022-07-07 Thread Richard F
RIP as you say, but many thanks for keeping it going r/o. I'm actually 
still maintaining vdr-convert for my own use + using it quite a lot. I 
plan to recover the wiki pages which represented quite a lot of work.  
Has code been copied to github ?  Who's owning / maintaining it there ?


Thanks

On 7/07/2022 0:59, Tobi wrote:

Hello!

The projects.vdr-developer.org server has been shut down tonight. RIP!

I will provide a readonly-mirror of the Redmine projects, tickets and
downloads as well as all the git repositories on:

https://vdr-projects.e-tobi.net
https://vdr-projects.e-tobi.net/git

This is still work in progress, but I will have everything up and running
by the end of the week.

BR,
Tobias





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Re: [vdr] projects.vdr-developer.org might come to an end

2022-07-07 Thread Martin Dummer

Am 07.07.22 um 17:02 schrieb Richard F:

Has code been copied to github ?  Who's owning / maintaining it there ?


Please use this

https://vdr-projects.github.io/

as a first info page. Although this list has not been updated,
vdr-convert has been mirrored to https://github.com/vdr-projects/vdr-convert

If you want to add more code etc.. place a pull request, or "want your
repo back", tell us on

https://www.vdr-portal.de/forum/index.php?thread/135173-migration-von-projects-vdr-developer-org-auf-alternative-plattformen/

what your plans are.


Bye

Martin


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Re: [vdr] projects.vdr-developer.org might come to an end

2022-07-07 Thread Tobi
If this helps: Heres the vdr-convert wiki exported via the redmine to
gitlab migrator, including the full edit history as a git repo:

https://psitransfer.home.e-tobi.net/35312b371c42

Tobias

On 07.07.22 17:02, Richard F wrote:
> RIP as you say, but many thanks for keeping it going r/o. I'm actually
> still maintaining vdr-convert for my own use + using it quite a lot. I
> plan to recover the wiki pages which represented quite a lot of work.  Has
> code been copied to github ?  Who's owning / maintaining it there ?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> On 7/07/2022 0:59, Tobi wrote:
>> Hello!
>>
>> The projects.vdr-developer.org server has been shut down tonight. RIP!
>>
>> I will provide a readonly-mirror of the Redmine projects, tickets and
>> downloads as well as all the git repositories on:
>>
>> https://vdr-projects.e-tobi.net
>> https://vdr-projects.e-tobi.net/git
>>
>> This is still work in progress, but I will have everything up and running
>> by the end of the week.
>>
>> BR,
>> Tobias
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [vdr] projects.vdr-developer.org might come to an end

2022-07-10 Thread Manuel Reimer

On 07.07.22 17:02, Richard F wrote:

RIP as you say, but many thanks for keeping it going r/o. I'm actually
still maintaining vdr-convert for my own use + using it quite a lot. I
plan to recover the wiki pages which represented quite a lot of work.
Has code been copied to github ?  Who's owning / maintaining it there ?


If you like, I could try to import the Wiki pages, Tobi has exported, to
https://github.com/vdr-projects/vdr-convert

I think all repos should be mirrored into context of
https://github.com/vdr-projects where they now more or less stay
unchanged as long as no one provides pull requests, patches, or "wants
his project back".

If you like to maintain your project here:
https://github.com/vdr-projects/vdr-convert then I could make you the
owner of this repo. But it would also be totally OK if you prefer to
host somewhere else. In this case I would replace the repository
description with information about where the project is maintained and
mark the whole repo as "archived" so no none thinks that this is the
official home of the project.

Manuel

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Re: [vdr] projects.vdr-developer.org might come to an end

2022-07-10 Thread Richard F
Yes, please make me owner of the repo + import the wiki pages, as I 
actually have some updates to do.


My login on github is "keynet". Let me know if you need any more info - 
Thanks


On 10/07/2022 12:48, Manuel Reimer wrote:

On 07.07.22 17:02, Richard F wrote:

RIP as you say, but many thanks for keeping it going r/o. I'm actually
still maintaining vdr-convert for my own use + using it quite a lot. I
plan to recover the wiki pages which represented quite a lot of work.
Has code been copied to github ?  Who's owning / maintaining it there ?


If you like, I could try to import the Wiki pages, Tobi has exported, to
https://github.com/vdr-projects/vdr-convert

I think all repos should be mirrored into context of
https://github.com/vdr-projects where they now more or less stay
unchanged as long as no one provides pull requests, patches, or "wants
his project back".

If you like to maintain your project here:
https://github.com/vdr-projects/vdr-convert then I could make you the
owner of this repo. But it would also be totally OK if you prefer to
host somewhere else. In this case I would replace the repository
description with information about where the project is maintained and
mark the whole repo as "archived" so no none thinks that this is the
official home of the project.

Manuel




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Re: [vdr] projects.vdr-developer.org might come to an end

2022-07-31 Thread Manuel Reimer

Hi Richard,

Sorry for the late response. I finally found the time to port over your
wiki pages.

I've sent you an invite that you just have to accept. This should give
you full permissions on the repository.

Unfortunately I was late for downloading the files, shared by Tobi. So I
tried to find a simple way to port the wiki pages without this.

If someone else wants to port wiki pages:
Forget about pandoc. It tries to migrate everything but the kitchen sink
including class names used by redmine internally. It sucks to edit all
that out.

The surprisingly easy way to port wiki page content:

- Copy the whole wiki page content on the readonly mirror hosted by Tobi
- Open https://stackedit.io/
- Click "START WRITING" there
- Now delete the whole example markdown on the left side
- Paste the copied wiki content
- StackEdit converts the pasted content to surprisingly nice markdown
- Now do minor fixes like adding code blocks, fix links, ...
- Copy the resulting markdown over to whatever hosting platform you like

Manuel


On 10.07.22 22:20, Richard F wrote:

Yes, please make me owner of the repo + import the wiki pages, as I
actually have some updates to do.

My login on github is "keynet". Let me know if you need any more info -
Thanks

On 10/07/2022 12:48, Manuel Reimer wrote:

On 07.07.22 17:02, Richard F wrote:

RIP as you say, but many thanks for keeping it going r/o. I'm actually
still maintaining vdr-convert for my own use + using it quite a lot. I
plan to recover the wiki pages which represented quite a lot of work.
Has code been copied to github ?  Who's owning / maintaining it there ?


If you like, I could try to import the Wiki pages, Tobi has exported, to
https://github.com/vdr-projects/vdr-convert

I think all repos should be mirrored into context of
https://github.com/vdr-projects where they now more or less stay
unchanged as long as no one provides pull requests, patches, or "wants
his project back".

If you like to maintain your project here:
https://github.com/vdr-projects/vdr-convert then I could make you the
owner of this repo. But it would also be totally OK if you prefer to
host somewhere else. In this case I would replace the repository
description with information about where the project is maintained and
mark the whole repo as "archived" so no none thinks that this is the
official home of the project.

Manuel




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Re: [vdr] projects.vdr-developer.org might come to an end

2022-07-31 Thread Manuel Reimer

Just a small follow up. I've also fixed the links in your Readme.txt and
as your syntax actually is valid markdown, I renamed it to "README.md"
to show how the project landing page can look like if the markdown is
actually parsed as such.

Feel free to drop my commits if you don't like it.

Manuel

On 31.07.22 11:04, Manuel Reimer wrote:

Hi Richard,

Sorry for the late response. I finally found the time to port over your
wiki pages.

I've sent you an invite that you just have to accept. This should give
you full permissions on the repository.

Unfortunately I was late for downloading the files, shared by Tobi. So I
tried to find a simple way to port the wiki pages without this.

If someone else wants to port wiki pages:
Forget about pandoc. It tries to migrate everything but the kitchen sink
including class names used by redmine internally. It sucks to edit all
that out.

The surprisingly easy way to port wiki page content:

- Copy the whole wiki page content on the readonly mirror hosted by Tobi
- Open https://stackedit.io/
- Click "START WRITING" there
- Now delete the whole example markdown on the left side
- Paste the copied wiki content
- StackEdit converts the pasted content to surprisingly nice markdown
- Now do minor fixes like adding code blocks, fix links, ...
- Copy the resulting markdown over to whatever hosting platform you like

Manuel


On 10.07.22 22:20, Richard F wrote:

Yes, please make me owner of the repo + import the wiki pages, as I
actually have some updates to do.

My login on github is "keynet". Let me know if you need any more info -
Thanks

On 10/07/2022 12:48, Manuel Reimer wrote:

On 07.07.22 17:02, Richard F wrote:

RIP as you say, but many thanks for keeping it going r/o. I'm actually
still maintaining vdr-convert for my own use + using it quite a lot. I
plan to recover the wiki pages which represented quite a lot of work.
Has code been copied to github ?  Who's owning / maintaining it there ?


If you like, I could try to import the Wiki pages, Tobi has exported, to
https://github.com/vdr-projects/vdr-convert

I think all repos should be mirrored into context of
https://github.com/vdr-projects where they now more or less stay
unchanged as long as no one provides pull requests, patches, or "wants
his project back".

If you like to maintain your project here:
https://github.com/vdr-projects/vdr-convert then I could make you the
owner of this repo. But it would also be totally OK if you prefer to
host somewhere else. In this case I would replace the repository
description with information about where the project is maintained and
mark the whole repo as "archived" so no none thinks that this is the
official home of the project.

Manuel




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Re: [vdr] projects.vdr-developer.org might come to an end

2022-07-31 Thread Richard F
Brilliant - thanks. I have some updates to do, but summer dictates some 
other priorities right now   I've accepted the invite, and will make 
edits and updates in a while


Thanks again

Richard

On 31/07/2022 10:22, Manuel Reimer wrote:

Just a small follow up. I've also fixed the links in your Readme.txt and
as your syntax actually is valid markdown, I renamed it to "README.md"
to show how the project landing page can look like if the markdown is
actually parsed as such.

Feel free to drop my commits if you don't like it.

Manuel

On 31.07.22 11:04, Manuel Reimer wrote:

Hi Richard,

Sorry for the late response. I finally found the time to port over your
wiki pages.

I've sent you an invite that you just have to accept. This should give
you full permissions on the repository.

Unfortunately I was late for downloading the files, shared by Tobi. So I
tried to find a simple way to port the wiki pages without this.

If someone else wants to port wiki pages:
Forget about pandoc. It tries to migrate everything but the kitchen sink
including class names used by redmine internally. It sucks to edit all
that out.

The surprisingly easy way to port wiki page content:

- Copy the whole wiki page content on the readonly mirror hosted by Tobi
- Open https://stackedit.io/
- Click "START WRITING" there
- Now delete the whole example markdown on the left side
- Paste the copied wiki content
- StackEdit converts the pasted content to surprisingly nice markdown
- Now do minor fixes like adding code blocks, fix links, ...
- Copy the resulting markdown over to whatever hosting platform you like

Manuel


On 10.07.22 22:20, Richard F wrote:

Yes, please make me owner of the repo + import the wiki pages, as I
actually have some updates to do.

My login on github is "keynet". Let me know if you need any more info -
Thanks

On 10/07/2022 12:48, Manuel Reimer wrote:

On 07.07.22 17:02, Richard F wrote:
RIP as you say, but many thanks for keeping it going r/o. I'm 
actually
still maintaining vdr-convert for my own use + using it quite a 
lot. I

plan to recover the wiki pages which represented quite a lot of work.
Has code been copied to github ?  Who's owning / maintaining it 
there ?


If you like, I could try to import the Wiki pages, Tobi has 
exported, to

https://github.com/vdr-projects/vdr-convert

I think all repos should be mirrored into context of
https://github.com/vdr-projects where they now more or less stay
unchanged as long as no one provides pull requests, patches, or "wants
his project back".

If you like to maintain your project here:
https://github.com/vdr-projects/vdr-convert then I could make you the
owner of this repo. But it would also be totally OK if you prefer to
host somewhere else. In this case I would replace the repository
description with information about where the project is maintained and
mark the whole repo as "archived" so no none thinks that this is the
official home of the project.

Manuel




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