RE: [Veritas-bu] slow catalog backups with 5.1
Title: Message depends on your shop. if your backups run betwen 20:00 and 06:00, and any vaulting/duplicating is done by 11:00-12:00, then you've got all afternoon to backup your catalog, providing you don't have any restores to do, or backup jobs to respool. basically, anytime yourcatalog backup is running, nothing else is. Paul -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: December 19, 2005 12:11 PMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: WEAVER, SimonSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] slow catalog backups with 5.1 Is there any significant problem associated with increasing the catalog backup time (ie, do we run into any problems if it takes longer to back up)? Regards,Abhishek DhingraStorage and Backup AdministrationCBS IT Operations "Tschida, Tom (C)(STP)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/19/2005 10:46 AM To: "WEAVER, Simon" [EMAIL PROTECTED], veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc: Subject:RE: [Veritas-bu] slow catalog backups with 5.1Our catalogue is 248 GB. I upgraded on Thursday. On Friday I noticed the elapsed time for the catalogue was over 9 hours. In looking through the Activity monitor, prior to the upgrade it finished in just under 7 hours for roughly the same size catalogue. I haven't notices a definite pattern for regular backups. Tom From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 9:09 AMTo: Tschida, Tom (C)(STP); veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] slow catalog backups with 5.1Tom How large is the catalogue backup when you view it in Activity Monitor? I use 5.1 and time wise, it depends on the size of the catalogue mainly. Are you seeing any other slowness with the backups itself? Simon WeaverTechnical SupportWindows Domain Administrator EADS AstriumTel: 02392-708598 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: Tschida, Tom (C)(STP) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 December 2005 15:04To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] slow catalog backups with 5.1We've recently upgraded our environment to 5.1 MP 4, and I've noticed that our catalog backup has slowed by over 30%. Has anyone seen similar things with 5.1? Thanks, Tom Tschida Guidant Corp This email is for the intended addressee only.If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it.Please notify the sender by return email.The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of EADS Astrium Limited.Nothing in this email shall bind EADS Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation.EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England__This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System.For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __
[Veritas-bu] bpcoverage is core dumping
Not sure if anyone else has mentioned/discovered this, but on my master server, an HP-UX 11.11 (not itanium) server, running NB5.1 MP 4, bpcoverage -c client-name is core dumping but only on certain clients. And the clients that are failing don't have anything in common. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] slow catalog backups with 5.1
Title: Message the issue would be not having the catalog complete before our off-site providor shows up to swap tapes, which would stretch a previous RPO of 24 hours to 48. Tom From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul KeatingSent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 6:57 AMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] slow catalog backups with 5.1 depends on your shop. if your backups run betwen 20:00 and 06:00, and any vaulting/duplicating is done by 11:00-12:00, then you've got all afternoon to backup your catalog, providing you don't have any restores to do, or backup jobs to respool. basically, anytime yourcatalog backup is running, nothing else is. Paul -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: December 19, 2005 12:11 PMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: WEAVER, SimonSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] slow catalog backups with 5.1 Is there any significant problem associated with increasing the catalog backup time (ie, do we run into any problems if it takes longer to back up)? Regards,Abhishek DhingraStorage and Backup AdministrationCBS IT Operations "Tschida, Tom (C)(STP)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/19/2005 10:46 AM To: "WEAVER, Simon" [EMAIL PROTECTED], veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc: Subject:RE: [Veritas-bu] slow catalog backups with 5.1Our catalogue is 248 GB. I upgraded on Thursday. On Friday I noticed the elapsed time for the catalogue was over 9 hours. In looking through the Activity monitor, prior to the upgrade it finished in just under 7 hours for roughly the same size catalogue. I haven't notices a definite pattern for regular backups. Tom From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 9:09 AMTo: Tschida, Tom (C)(STP); veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] slow catalog backups with 5.1Tom How large is the catalogue backup when you view it in Activity Monitor? I use 5.1 and time wise, it depends on the size of the catalogue mainly. Are you seeing any other slowness with the backups itself? Simon WeaverTechnical SupportWindows Domain Administrator EADS AstriumTel: 02392-708598 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: Tschida, Tom (C)(STP) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 December 2005 15:04To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] slow catalog backups with 5.1We've recently upgraded our environment to 5.1 MP 4, and I've noticed that our catalog backup has slowed by over 30%. Has anyone seen similar things with 5.1? Thanks, Tom Tschida Guidant Corp This email is for the intended addressee only.If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it.Please notify the sender by return email.The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of EADS Astrium Limited.Nothing in this email shall bind EADS Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation.EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England__This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System.For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __
RE: [Veritas-bu] More Media Fun!
Title: Message Well, the tape you've queried is already deassigned (see the "assigned" field below). "deassignbyid" is a big hammer of command options - I try to do everything I can before I resort to this. -MA common "not found in NB media database" is the need to specify the media server for the tape on the command line, usually a "-h mediaserver" option. You can find the media server for a tape with "bpmedialist -m mediaid". -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Martin, Jonathan (Contractor)Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 6:44 AMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] More Media Fun! I'm trying to expire some long offsite media from my UNIX Netbackup media server and I get the following: bpexpdate -m SU440S -d 0 -host backitup -forcerequested media id was not found in NB media database and/or MM volume database So I try... vmquery -deassignbyid SU440S 6 0media ID: SU440Smedia type: DLT cartridge tape 2 (16)barcode: BSU440Smedia description: SuperDLT 220 Tapevolume pool: SUPER_POOL (6)robot type: NONE - Not Robotic (0)volume group: ---vault name: ---vault sent date: ---vault return date: ---vault slot: ---vault session id: ---created: Thu Oct 30 15:33:52 2003assigned: ---last mounted: Sat Nov 01 01:39:42 2003first mount: Sat Nov 01 01:39:42 2003expiration date: ---number of mounts: 1max mounts allowed: --- This always works in my NT Environment.. what am I doing wrong / any ideas on where to go from here? Thanks as always, -Jonathan
RE: [Veritas-bu] bpcoverage is core dumping
Thanks, just got off the phone, known issue, didn't really want to send me the binary for MP3 bpcoverage in case it broke something else, but I said I would assume responsibility for it -Original Message- From: James Pattinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 9:08 AM To: Lewick, Taylor; Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] bpcoverage is core dumping Lewick, Taylor wrote: Not sure if anyone else has mentioned/discovered this, but on my master server, an HP-UX 11.11 (not itanium) server, running NB5.1 MP 4, bpcoverage -c client-name is core dumping but only on certain clients. And the clients that are failing don't have anything in common. Known issue, will be fixed in MP5. I have had an answer from Veritas saying that the MP3 binary works with no issues on MP4. Cheers James -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Administration very slow
Title: Message You can always UP the memory allocation values for the Java interface in /usr/openv/java/nbj.conf INITIAL_MEMORY=36MMAX_MEMORY=256M The base valuesare those above. Modify them UP based on the system's configuration. HTH, Kate -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kilpatrick, MarkSent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 12:44 PMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Administration very slow Hi, I am working with a Netbackup Adminstration Interface on a solaris server that is very slow. I am working from the master server so there should be no issues. I have checked that disk space is sufficient and there is no netbackup logging happening at present. Any tips or suggestions to solve the performance issue. Thanks Mark Due to continued expansion Sabeo Technologies have moved office to The Courtyard, Carmanhall Road, Sandyford, Dublin 18. Our telephone and fax numbers remain unchanged. A location map is available on our website www.sabeo.com. ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify Sabeo Technologies. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ** This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If youthink you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the senderbyreply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you.Aetna
[Veritas-bu] sharing tape drives
Will NBU6 allow multiple media servers to write to a single tape drive simulaneously? A customer of mine is going to using STK T1 drives and their media servers each can't supply enough data to keep the drive fully fed so we're hoping to be able to multiplex that way. Any other ideas besides making the media servers faster? Unfortunately that's not an option due to a software limitation. -- -Jason - Jason K. Schechner --- There are no ABSOLUTE STATEMENTS I'm very probably wrong. --- The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. - Albert Einstein ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] sharing tape drives
Definitely not, and I can't see it ever happening with SCSI-based tape drives. Your options really come down to: 1. Tune up the OS and NetBackup in great detail to make certain you have the very best you can get from the media servers. 2. Look closely at how the data is coming to the media servers - if they are coming from network backups, consider DSSUs to separate the slow network backup from destaging from local disk to tape. However, make sure you use fast disks and tune them up- I've seen reports on this list that suggest cheap SATA arrays cannot do this very well. There are quite a few ways to break down the process of the data getting from the client to the tape into separate sections that you can measure and tune up. If you are using UNIX servers Veritas have quite a bit of accumulated wisdom on tuning the OS - they just don't seem to publish it, and 1st line support don't know it either - but it is there. There are plenty on TCP/IP measuring tools and tuning advice for various kinds of NIC. You can run bpbkar with the -nocont option to see how quickly NBU is getting data off the disks. William D L Brown jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20-Dec-2005 18:36 Please respond to jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject [Veritas-bu] sharing tape drives Will NBU6 allow multiple media servers to write to a single tape drive simulaneously? A customer of mine is going to using STK T1 drives and their media servers each can't supply enough data to keep the drive fully fed so we're hoping to be able to multiplex that way. Any other ideas besides making the media servers faster? Unfortunately that's not an option due to a software limitation. -- -Jason - Jason K. Schechner --- There are no ABSOLUTE STATEMENTS I'm very probably wrong. --- The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. - Albert Einstein ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Netbackup Tutorial's
Symantec put up some netbackup flash tutotrials. 1.) How to view logs for a specific originator ID using the vxlogview -o command 2.) How to create and configure a Disk Storage Unit 3.) How to configure Hot Catalog Backups They can be found here: http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Server
[Veritas-bu] using vmoprcmd to configure media server
There is an undocumented usage of vmoprcmd to configure a remote media server from the master server. It will add the robot and drives to a window server if you do not otherwise have access to the server. as root on the master server # vmoprcmd something -host remote media server tpsomething anyone know? ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] using vmoprcmd to configure media server
it is -h not -host # vmoprcmd -h servername -autoconfig -a Bob Stump [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/20/2005 3:48 PM There is an undocumented usage of vmoprcmd to configure a remote media server from the master server. It will add the robot and drives to a window server if you do not otherwise have access to the server. as root on the master server # vmoprcmd something -host remote media server tpsomething anyone know? ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] using vmoprcmd to configure media server
Here's the extended command syntax below. It says just to include the tpconfig command options in the quoted string for -devconfig. I tested using a simple -l for one of my configured servers and it looked just fine. That suggests, therefore: vmoprcmd -h mediasvr -devconfig tpconfig options HTH -M $ vmoprcmd -Q UNSUPPORTED OPTIONS -M master_server Same as -h. -verbose Not implemented. -display Obsolete. See -d. -xd [pr|ds] If none of the following parameters are specified, all information is displayed. pr - Display pending requests in a format intended for the X GUI. ds - Display the status of drives under control of Media Manager in a format intended for the X GUI. -xdisplay Obsolete. See -xd. -xdraw [pr|ds] If none of the following parameters are specified, all information is displayed. This option is used by java. pr - Display pending requests in a raw format. ds - Display the status of drives under control of Media Manager in a raw format. -scanbyname drive_name Get scan information for a drive, specified by drive_name. This option is for testing use only. -startltid Start ltid. This option is used by java. -stopltid Stop ltid. This option is used by java. -devconfig tpconfig command options Send device configuration commands to tpconfig. This option is used by java. -autoconfig tpautoconf command options Send device configuration commands to tpautoconf. This option is used by java. -format tpformat command options Send media configuration commands to tpformat. This option is used by java. -cleanlist Display drive cleaning information. -clean Send media configuration commands to tpclean. This option is used by java. -xdpa mount_request_index Display the text of the pending action for the mount_request_index. -extrob Display the external_robotics file. -extden Display the external_densities file. -extdt Display the external_drivetypes file. -extmt Display the external_mediatypes file. -extall Display the external_robotics, external_densities, external_drivetypes, and external_mediatypes files. -hosttype Get the host type and status of ltid. This option is used by java. -releaseversion Get the Media Manager release version string. -SSOupbyname drive_name UP all host-drive instances of this SSO drive. -SSOdownbyname drive_name DOWN all host-drive instances of this SSO drive. -SSOdisplay drive_name Display the drive status of all host-drive instances of this SSO drive. -timeout value Timeout to use during device discovery. Defaults is 300 seconds. -ctimeout value Connection timeout to use when connecting to vmd. Defaults is 60 seconds. -hostinfo Get the host type, status of ltid, and Media Manager release version string. -set_ndmp_attr set_ndmp_attr command options Send commands to set_ndmp_attr. -tlmtest tlm robotic test utility command options Send commands tlmtest. -tlhtest tlh robotic test utility command options Send commands to tlhtest. -extattr Display external attributes. -shmreq Display requests in shared memory. -shmdrive Display drives in shared memory. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Stump Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 1:48 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] using vmoprcmd to configure media server There is an undocumented usage of vmoprcmd to configure a remote media server from the master server. It will add the robot and drives to a window server if you do not otherwise have access to the server. as root on the master server # vmoprcmd something -host remote media server tpsomething anyone know? ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Browsing the catalog for old hosts
Every client has its own directory entry under ../db/images so every client ever backed up would be: ls /usr/openv/netbackup/db/images/ -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Freels Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 2:07 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Browsing the catalog for old hosts Greetings and Mele Kalikimaka! This might have been covered before, but is there a way to browse the catalog and pull out a list of all the hosts that have ever been backed up from the beginning of time? I've gotten a request from someone for a restore, but they are uncertain of the name of the host. Since the backups took place over three years ago, it's before my time at this company and the backups could quite possibly have been done on a different host, hostname, network, or even a different backup system (which I need to find out). Since I don't know the name of the host, I have no way to enter it in the Source Client field to browse the backups. Maybe something like bpcatlist, but that seems to still require host or policy names NB 4.51_FP6, Solaris Thanks, as always. k -==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==- Kevin Freels [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior UNIX SysAdmin 510.985.7444 Ask Jeeves ask.com We keep you alive to serve this ship. Row well and live. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Administration very slow
* Kilpatrick, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-12-20 17:43]: Hi, I am working with a Netbackup Adminstration Interface on a solaris server that is very slow. I am working from the master server so there should be no issues. I have checked that disk space is sufficient and there is no netbackup logging happening at present. Any tips or suggestions to solve the performance issue. Actually, working from the master may be the problem. The Java GUI is a real pig. Try running the GUI from a different system instead. -- David Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpNRqv8zDndQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
