RE: [Veritas-bu] Assistance Required
Justin It takes longer than 1 week - still use them after months !! Simon Weaver Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Tel: 02392-708598 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Justin Durrant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 February 2006 21:15 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Assistance Required Simon / Ed Thanks very much for your replies. They have been most informative. I have now got myself a copy of the NetBackup Admin Guide; I just have to find a spare week to read it ;-) Thanks again J - Original Message - From: "WEAVER, Simon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Justin Durrant'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 12:58 PM Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Assistance Required > > Justin > Your welcome. As Netbackup is going to be the corporate standard, then > you may want to make suggestions and evaluate the needs for your > clients. > > For example, if you backup SQL, Oracle or Exchange DB, you are going > to require add-ons - which are effectively license keys. > > These factors are to be considered when pricing up the Netbackup > Family. > > If you have over 300, then chances are your backing up HUGE amounts of > Data, > most likely in the 20+TB area by now I would hope (or even more!!) > > Netbackup does allow backups to be carried out across the WAN and > through firewalls if the need is required. An alternative would be to > implement Netbackup Media Servers. > > In essence, these are servers that backup themselves locally using a > shared > tape drive(s). Do you happen to have any of the Netbackup System > Administrator guides, as there are some pretty good useful information > articles in there that talks about the planning and installation and > tuning > of Netbackup. > > As mentioned from the start, I do not know your exact setup, so I can > only guide you, but one would think that someone at your site has > knowledge of what has been done, and what they are now looking to do > :-) > > Hope this is of some help - again, NOT trying to push you into doing > any > of > the above, just advising you what can be done. > > In an example here, I have 2 master servers, and 2 media servers, > which > are > treated as SAN MEDIA servers, sharing a larger Tape Robotic Library and > backing up the disks through "fibre" channel cards. > > The reason; To improve the backup performance for our larger systems > that holds TB's of Data. You may wish to just implement Media Server > or servers at your sites and backup to a tape drive or drives. > > Wish you good luck Justin. But if you get time, I would strongly > recommend doing some research. Not only will this benefit you as the > person responsible for the infrastructure, but you also take part > responsibility for implementing the kit / software as you see fit :-) > > Greetings > > Simon Weaver > Technical Support > Windows Domain Administrator > > EADS Astrium > Tel: 02392-708598 > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -Original Message- > From: Justin Durrant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 01 February 2006 11:18 > To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu > Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Assistance Required > > > Hi Simon > > Thanks for the response. > >> Well, bit of a tough question to answer, as there are SO many >> questions I would probably want to ask you, one of them being "Is >> Netbackup the > product >> for you" !? > > I dont believe I have a choice in this as we already have this in > place. > >> How many client machines are you backing up? > Over 300 hundred boxes. Most of them are on site locally but there was > mention that perhaps we should be backing up our various remote sites. > However, our Windows admin has suggested that we could possibly use > DFS for this; so this may be the route we take on remote sites. > >> Are they a variety of operating systems? (ie: Unix, NT, 2003) > We have a selection. We're only backing up servers (Solaris, RHEL and > Windows), a NetApp filer and our SAN. I'd like to be able to backup > the SAN data directly; it is currently being backed up via the machine > that uses the > space but I'm sure that this is the wrong way to do it. > >> Is Netbackup going to be the corporate backup product and part of >> your > business strategy? > Yes, almost certainly. > >> In terms of what you backup, you may be able to find this out from >> the "Images on Media" report tool - most of the information about the >> clients and size of data on tape can come from the Reports applet. > Thankyou, I'll take a look at these reports. > >> Netbackup is scalable, there is no doubt about that - In my own >> personal view, some of the add-on's appear to be very expensive (ie >> SQL license, >> Oracle) so you need to take costs into account. > Phew, that kinda answers part of the issue. Not sure about add-on's > that we'd require. I havent heard mention of costs yet so I wont be > losing any sl
Re: [Veritas-bu] Sun GigaSwift (ce) cards
> On the Sol10 network inquiry. They have rearchitected the stack so that > UDP and TCP are not separate STREAMS between IP. They have combined them > to improve on efficiency by about 20% on network transactions. > Lots of info here: http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/content/networkperf/ > Has anyone used jumbo frames? We are thinking about doing this on our > backup network but I believe that ALL the clients that use that network > would have to be configured for jumbo frames. Does anyone know this for > sure? Everyone on the LAN should be configured for jumbo frames. One way around this would be to create a separate subnet/vlan that uses jumbos. I'm not sure that routers can handle different MTUs on different VLANs on the same interface. I couldn't figure out how to do it on my Juniper M10 but have not really investigated fully. You should get improved performance with jumbos. Whether you'll notice any actual application-level improvement or not of course depends on where the bottleneck in your network is. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] No response concerning tape alert?
On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 01:24:15PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In general, I've heard nothing bad about tape alert cleaning. The mistake, > usually, is library-based cleaning. If you use library-based cleaning, then > the library, without any alert to Netbackup, can chose to clean a tape > drive, usually using a pseudo-hidden cleaning tape from a reserved slot. If > the library cleans the tape drive & Netbackup doesn't know about it, then NB > can try to use the drive when a cleaning is occurring. The tape mount will > fail & NB will down the drive. > > For an SSO environment, your only NB-based option is tape alert cleaning. > Frequency-based (at least in v5.x & down) doesn't work in SSO because the > media servers make no attempt to coordinate hours of run time for each > drive. We're in an SSO environment and we use library-based cleaning. We've been doing for about 3-4 years and have not had issues. YMMV. .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Exchange SP2
Does anyone know (or have a document) detailing which versions of the Exchange Agent for NBU will support Exchange SP2? Thanks, -Jonathan ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Re: Backing up Solaris 10 Zones
We have a few Solaris 10 machines with zones and they backup fine. Our zones are on local disk. Are your zones on an NFS partition? We run 5.1MP3 but Solaris 10 is supported on 5.0MP4 and up (for Sparc client). Have a look at the backup error logs, they might say why it's not doing your zone partitions. We didn't have to change any settings in our policy to get it to work. >Hello, > > I have added 2 Solaris machines to a policy (System Backups) and >this policy has been backing up "All_Local_drives" for several machines running Solaris 9. The new machines are Solaris 10. Now the >1st one that I added went smooth. Its backing up all data. On the >second machine they seem to have set up multiple zones. I ran the back >up and then restored and went looking through thins and found that the >zones were missing. I had a backup of only 3.0G Any thoughts as to how >to get the policy to back up all data on the local drive following >these soft partitions for each zone. > >I seem to get the Zones directory under / however the soft partitions >for each zone are missing Im only able to get the global zone. > >Im am running Veritas NBU 5.0GA MP6 Enterprise under a solaris 9 >environment -- Jeff Bryer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systems Administrator (604) 291-4935 Academic Computing, Simon Fraser University ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Assistance Required
Simon / Ed Thanks very much for your replies. They have been most informative. I have now got myself a copy of the NetBackup Admin Guide; I just have to find a spare week to read it ;-) Thanks again J - Original Message - From: "WEAVER, Simon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Justin Durrant'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 12:58 PM Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Assistance Required Justin Your welcome. As Netbackup is going to be the corporate standard, then you may want to make suggestions and evaluate the needs for your clients. For example, if you backup SQL, Oracle or Exchange DB, you are going to require add-ons - which are effectively license keys. These factors are to be considered when pricing up the Netbackup Family. If you have over 300, then chances are your backing up HUGE amounts of Data, most likely in the 20+TB area by now I would hope (or even more!!) Netbackup does allow backups to be carried out across the WAN and through firewalls if the need is required. An alternative would be to implement Netbackup Media Servers. In essence, these are servers that backup themselves locally using a shared tape drive(s). Do you happen to have any of the Netbackup System Administrator guides, as there are some pretty good useful information articles in there that talks about the planning and installation and tuning of Netbackup. As mentioned from the start, I do not know your exact setup, so I can only guide you, but one would think that someone at your site has knowledge of what has been done, and what they are now looking to do :-) Hope this is of some help - again, NOT trying to push you into doing any of the above, just advising you what can be done. In an example here, I have 2 master servers, and 2 media servers, which are treated as SAN MEDIA servers, sharing a larger Tape Robotic Library and backing up the disks through "fibre" channel cards. The reason; To improve the backup performance for our larger systems that holds TB's of Data. You may wish to just implement Media Server or servers at your sites and backup to a tape drive or drives. Wish you good luck Justin. But if you get time, I would strongly recommend doing some research. Not only will this benefit you as the person responsible for the infrastructure, but you also take part responsibility for implementing the kit / software as you see fit :-) Greetings Simon Weaver Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Tel: 02392-708598 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Justin Durrant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 February 2006 11:18 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Assistance Required Hi Simon Thanks for the response. Well, bit of a tough question to answer, as there are SO many questions I would probably want to ask you, one of them being "Is Netbackup the product for you" !? I dont believe I have a choice in this as we already have this in place. How many client machines are you backing up? Over 300 hundred boxes. Most of them are on site locally but there was mention that perhaps we should be backing up our various remote sites. However, our Windows admin has suggested that we could possibly use DFS for this; so this may be the route we take on remote sites. Are they a variety of operating systems? (ie: Unix, NT, 2003) We have a selection. We're only backing up servers (Solaris, RHEL and Windows), a NetApp filer and our SAN. I'd like to be able to backup the SAN data directly; it is currently being backed up via the machine that uses the space but I'm sure that this is the wrong way to do it. Is Netbackup going to be the corporate backup product and part of your business strategy? Yes, almost certainly. In terms of what you backup, you may be able to find this out from the "Images on Media" report tool - most of the information about the clients and size of data on tape can come from the Reports applet. Thankyou, I'll take a look at these reports. Netbackup is scalable, there is no doubt about that - In my own personal view, some of the add-on's appear to be very expensive (ie SQL license, Oracle) so you need to take costs into account. Phew, that kinda answers part of the issue. Not sure about add-on's that we'd require. I havent heard mention of costs yet so I wont be losing any sleep over this. Not sure if I am being much help here ? :-( Any help is more than I had to start with. Thanks muchly Justin -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by DFK Systems Limited, and is believed to be clean. To report this message as spam, please click on this link - https://secure.dfk-systems.com/quarantine/spam.php?id=k11BIx4N015734 ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email is for the intended addressee only. If you have re
[Veritas-bu] Re: Veritas-bu digest, Vol 1 #4816 - 9 msgs
Shawn, Here is a snip from a Sun sight on the subject of backing up Zones. I think I got it off of the Sun Big Admin sight. I hope it helps. Using Network Backup Software to Back Up and Restore Your System You can use a product such as Symantec/VERITAS NetBackup to back up or restore your Solaris system. Symantec/VERITAS NetBackup enables enterprise-wide coordination of backups, archives, and restores. A description of NetBackup support for Solaris 10 systems with installed zones is available at http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/275107.htm. The NetBackup client software is supported in a non-global zone. The NetBackup master server and media server are supported in the global zone. The NetBackup master server manages backups, archives, and restores. Media servers provide additional storage by allowing NetBackup to use the storage devices that they control, such as 4-mm tape drives. You can restore entire systems or specific files and directories. NetBackup locates the selected files and directories and restores them to the disk on the client. You do not have to change standard NetBackup architecture to apply it to a system with zones installed. You can treat each non-global zone as though it is a standalone server running the NetBackup client software. The backup should be performed when the zone and its applications have quiesced the data to be backed up. Note: Your network backup software should be configured to skip all inherited LOFS file systems if possible. Tip: If you would like to consolidate servers or take advantage of the higher-network bandwidth between non-global zones on the same system as compared to wired networks, you can also co-locate the media server on the same system. The connection between the server and the storage device must have sufficient bandwidth for all backup streams. From: Shawn Guillemette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: nbu mailing list Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backing up Solaris 10 Zones Hello, I have added 2 Solaris machines to a policy (System Backups) and this policy has been backing up "All_Local_drives" for several machines running Solaris 9. The new machines are Solaris 10. Now the 1st one that I added went smooth. Its backing up all data. On the second machine they seem to have set up multiple zones. I ran the back up and then restored and went looking through thins and found that the zones were missing. I had a backup of only 3.0G Any thoughts as to how to get the policy to back up all data on the local drive following these soft partitions for each zone. I seem to get the Zones directory under / however the soft partitions for each zone are missing Im only able to get the global zone. Im am running Veritas NBU 5.0GA MP6 Enterprise under a solaris 9 environment Shawn Guillemette MetroCast Cablevision Infrastructure Engineering Richard Mickle UNIX Systems and Storage Administrator Moore Wallace Response Marketing Services An RR Donnelley Company E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 920-339-1695 Cell Phone: 920-366-1987 Fax: 920-339-1807
RE: [Veritas-bu] 2 backup masters in one environment.
#2, no problem. I do it today. #1, backups might work but I'll bet restores will fail. If you initiate a client-side restore, it contacts the master server, the first "SERVER = " in the bp.conf file. If you have two master servers, I don't see how you could easily decide which one to contact in a restore situation. Another option would be to do away with NB as a backup. If you just mount a bunch of disks on your DB servers, then RMAN can just do a backup to disk - it doesn't have to send it's backups to tape drives. The OPEN SBT_TAPE FOR BACKUP can be OPEN DISK FOR BACKUP. Get yourself a big NAS device, mount it to each DB server & you're golden. If you love NB, then you could make one of the DB servers a media server, mount disk to it, then backup to a disk storage unit defined off your new DB/media server. HTH - M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 11:40 AM To: veritas-bu veritas-bu Subject: [Veritas-bu] 2 backup masters in one environment. hello all, The problem I am having is architectural. here it goes. I have 4 oracle db servers running Solaris 8 netbackup client version 4.5FP7. Our Netbackup environment is outsourced to our hosting provider and they currently are backing up to tape. I would like to purchase netbackup 6 (only because it's the latest, it doesn't have to be this version) and backup the same 4 db servers to disk. the problem is that the outsourced hosting provider who manages the netbackup 'network' will not add my disk based backup solution into the mix. What are my options if I want to keep their setup and add another environment on my own and backup the same 4 db servers. 1. can I have 2 backup master servers backing up the same client (as long as the schedules don't conflict) with the 2 servers NOT knowing about each other. 2. if not, can I have 2 media servers backing up the same client? I could probably get away with asking the hosting provider to add my server in their mix as a media server and I'll connect my disk based hardware appliance to it. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] No response concerning tape alert?
In general, I've heard nothing bad about tape alert cleaning. The mistake, usually, is library-based cleaning. If you use library-based cleaning, then the library, without any alert to Netbackup, can chose to clean a tape drive, usually using a pseudo-hidden cleaning tape from a reserved slot. If the library cleans the tape drive & Netbackup doesn't know about it, then NB can try to use the drive when a cleaning is occurring. The tape mount will fail & NB will down the drive. For an SSO environment, your only NB-based option is tape alert cleaning. Frequency-based (at least in v5.x & down) doesn't work in SSO because the media servers make no attempt to coordinate hours of run time for each drive. -M -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Justin PiszczSent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 11:45 AMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] No response concerning tape alert? Anyone have any response to this e-mail concerning the tape alert flag? Hi, I have recently moved to new environment, which actively uses the tape alert setting in Veritas and has cleaning tapes assigned etc. The drives used are HP-Ultrium2-LTO2, the same in the previous environment, which I was responsible for. As I recall in the NetBackup with LTO2 drives I read somewhere or a previous thread on this mailing list, it is not recommended to turn this feature on as it causes more probolems than it fixes? Can using the TapeAlert settings cause more drives to go down than normal? I am trying to figure that part out as my previous main environment had 8 LTO2 drives which did not use tapealert. The new environment has many more drives but they all use tape alert, does anyone have any experience in large or small environments using tape alert? I've always seen and followed the standard placing the NO_TAPE_ALERT file in /usr/openv/volmgr/somewhere as it had never run in the past in the previous environment so I saw no reason to run it. I realize the drives will get dirty after a certain amount of use and need to be cleaned. However, I have spoken with StorageTek in the past and they do not recommend cleaning the drives very often; although I guess that would depend on the use the drives see as well. Ultimately, I'd like to know: 1) Who uses tape alert? 2) Have you tried backups for an extended period of time with it on and off? 3) Does it create more problems than it fixes? Thanks,
RE: [Veritas-bu] No response concerning tape alert?
Hello Justin, If you are using an ACS library you have to turn off the use of tape alert flag. We had problems with the library hanging up, and found a veritas tech note that called for turning off cleaning of the tape drives with netbackup. The library handles the task. We also have an IBM 3584 library with the ALMS feature, and this calls for controlling the cleaning of tape drives by the library and not netbackup. len From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Justin PiszczSent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 1:45 PMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] No response concerning tape alert? Anyone have any response to this e-mail concerning the tape alert flag? Hi, I have recently moved to new environment, which actively uses the tape alert setting in Veritas and has cleaning tapes assigned etc. The drives used are HP-Ultrium2-LTO2, the same in the previous environment, which I was responsible for. As I recall in the NetBackup with LTO2 drives I read somewhere or a previous thread on this mailing list, it is not recommended to turn this feature on as it causes more probolems than it fixes? Can using the TapeAlert settings cause more drives to go down than normal? I am trying to figure that part out as my previous main environment had 8 LTO2 drives which did not use tapealert. The new environment has many more drives but they all use tape alert, does anyone have any experience in large or small environments using tape alert? I've always seen and followed the standard placing the NO_TAPE_ALERT file in /usr/openv/volmgr/somewhere as it had never run in the past in the previous environment so I saw no reason to run it. I realize the drives will get dirty after a certain amount of use and need to be cleaned. However, I have spoken with StorageTek in the past and they do not recommend cleaning the drives very often; although I guess that would depend on the use the drives see as well. Ultimately, I'd like to know: 1) Who uses tape alert? 2) Have you tried backups for an extended period of time with it on and off? 3) Does it create more problems than it fixes? Thanks,
[Veritas-bu] No response concerning tape alert?
Anyone have any response to this e-mail concerning the tape alert flag? Hi, I have recently moved to new environment, which actively uses the tape alert setting in Veritas and has cleaning tapes assigned etc. The drives used are HP-Ultrium2-LTO2, the same in the previous environment, which I was responsible for. As I recall in the NetBackup with LTO2 drives I read somewhere or a previous thread on this mailing list, it is not recommended to turn this feature on as it causes more probolems than it fixes? Can using the TapeAlert settings cause more drives to go down than normal? I am trying to figure that part out as my previous main environment had 8 LTO2 drives which did not use tapealert. The new environment has many more drives but they all use tape alert, does anyone have any experience in large or small environments using tape alert? I've always seen and followed the standard placing the NO_TAPE_ALERT file in /usr/openv/volmgr/somewhere as it had never run in the past in the previous environment so I saw no reason to run it. I realize the drives will get dirty after a certain amount of use and need to be cleaned. However, I have spoken with StorageTek in the past and they do not recommend cleaning the drives very often; although I guess that would depend on the use the drives see as well. Ultimately, I'd like to know: 1) Who uses tape alert? 2) Have you tried backups for an extended period of time with it on and off? 3) Does it create more problems than it fixes? Thanks,
[Veritas-bu] 2 backup masters in one environment.
hello all, The problem I am having is architectural. here it goes. I have 4 oracle db servers running Solaris 8 netbackup client version 4.5FP7. Our Netbackup environment is outsourced to our hosting provider and they currently are backing up to tape. I would like to purchase netbackup 6 (only because it's the latest, it doesn't have to be this version) and backup the same 4 db servers to disk. the problem is that the outsourced hosting provider who manages the netbackup 'network' will not add my disk based backup solution into the mix. What are my options if I want to keep their setup and add another environment on my own and backup the same 4 db servers. 1. can I have 2 backup master servers backing up the same client (as long as the schedules don't conflict) with the 2 servers NOT knowing about each other. 2. if not, can I have 2 media servers backing up the same client? I could probably get away with asking the hosting provider to add my server in their mix as a media server and I'll connect my disk based hardware appliance to it. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] snmp?
Title: Message anyone using SNMP to monitor drives/libraries? a co-working keeps referencing our old system (vefore my time with the company) where he used to use SNMP to monitor realtime I/O errors, and "lots of other stuff" using Compaq Insight Manager and our old libraries (Compaq rebranded ATL P1000 ) Paul La version française suit le texte anglais. This email message from the Bank of Canada is given in good faith, and shall not be binding or construed as constituting any obligation on the part of the Bank. This email may contain privileged and/or confidential information, and the Bank of Canada does not waive any related rights. Any distribution, use, or copying of this email or the information it contains by other than the intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this email in error please delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by email that you have done so. Recipients are advised to apply their own virus checks to this message upon receipt. L'information communiquée dans les courriels en provenance de la Banque du Canada est soumise de bonne foi, mais elle ne saurait lier la Banque et ne doit aucunement être interprétée comme constituant une obligation de sa part. Le présent courriel peut contenir de l'information privilégiée ou confidentielle. La Banque du Canada ne renonce pas aux droits qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, utilisation ou copie de ce courriel ou des renseignements qu'il contient par une personne autre que le ou les destinataires désignés est interdite Si vous recevez ce courriel par erreur, veuillez le supprimer immédiatement et envoyer sans délai à l'expéditeur un message électronique pour l'aviser que vous avez éliminé de votre ordinateur toute copie du courriel reçu. Dès la réception du présent message, le ou les destinataires doivent activer leur programme de détection de virus pour éviter toute contamination possible.
[Veritas-bu] NDMP File History Mode
Hi All, I am reviewing NAS support for NDMP DAR - direct access restore. DAR is dependent on the NAS filer sending File History information so that NBU can generate the backup catalog from which file can be individually selected for DAR. Does NBU support both NDMP File History modes (ie path based and dir/node based)? If so is there a performance preference of one over the other. Any input would be great. Thanks, Shai ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] BCV's on windows systems
Any one using TimeFinder/BCV for windows systems ? Here is the situation. I have a Solaris Master/media server. I need to backup a CVS server(Windows) and it connects to an Oracle database ( Unix). I am using notify scripts to shutdown the CVS services. I do a database export after the shutdown. Here is few questions. 1) WHere do you mount the BCV ? 2) What volume manager software you use ? 3) The database export is not linked to the shutting down CVS services. I am making guess and doing an export during the backup. Is there a way to pass a command to shutdown database on Unix server using the WIndows servers Notify scripts ? I am hoping I can achieve this using CygWin. I currently Use BCV's for backing up Oracle databases on Unix but not on Windows. I would appreciate y'r insights. Thanx -Shyam
Re: [Veritas-bu] How to determine which drive was used for backup
On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 09:42:32AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > A backup can use more than one tape drive, as the fragments are written, > they can span tapes. Netbackup makes no attempt to mount the next tape to be > written on the same device as the previous tape. Not only does NetBackup make no attempt to mount the next tape on the same tape drive, it actually appears to make explicit attempts *NOT* to do that. We've always seen NetBackup rotate jobs to the next drive so that you don't end up beating your first tape drive into the ground. .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Backing up Solaris 10 Zones
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I have added 2 Solaris machines to a policy (System Backups) and this policy has been backing up "All_Local_drives" for several machines running Solaris 9. The new machines are Solaris 10. Now the 1st one that I added went smooth. Its backing up all data. On the second machine they seem to have set up multiple zones. I ran the back up and then restored and went looking through thins and found that the zones were missing. I had a backup of only 3.0G Any thoughts as to how to get the policy to back up all data on the local drive following these soft partitions for each zone. I seem to get the Zones directory under / however the soft partitions for each zone are missing Im only able to get the global zone. Im am running Veritas NBU 5.0GA MP6 Enterprise under a solaris 9 environment Shawn Guillemette MetroCast Cablevision Infrastructure Engineering -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFD4kmHnOBTBAmR9iwRAmTpAJ4tBZQM4X4DQaB4bJeW8pvS3kiVwwCfQtKr 7wPq3IEHISsN66hTwuR/EJ4= =rWPx -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Rsync'ing the Netbackup Catalog?
I haven't used rsync specifically, but am using Veritas Volume Replicator. Works well, without shutting down the daemons, but it's an always active appliaction, rather than moving changed files, like rsync.,,so I don't think that's much help. I've thought about using exporting an FS via NFS from my standby server, and using netbackup's catalog backup to disk, to back the catalog up to the standby server directly.or, backing it up to one of my filers, and letting it get synced to my other site using truecopy on the filer. Paul > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Mike Haslam > Sent: February 2, 2006 10:56 AM > To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu > Subject: [Veritas-bu] Rsync'ing the Netbackup Catalog? > > > > Has anyone had any experience using rsync to replicate their NetBackup > catalog to a recovery site? I am investigating this option > at the moment. > I would be grateful for some help on how best to go about > this, whether > anything has to be taken offline within netbackup whilst > rsync is running > for the catalog, what command line options should be used for > best results, > the files backed up and if any exlcludes should be used? > > Has anyone succesfully, or otherwise, used an rsync'ed > NetBackup catalog? > La version française suit le texte anglais. This email message from the Bank of Canada is given in good faith, and shall not be binding or construed as constituting any obligation on the part of the Bank. This email may contain privileged and/or confidential information, and the Bank of Canada does not waive any related rights. Any distribution, use, or copying of this email or the information it contains by other than the intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this email in error please delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by email that you have done so. Recipients are advised to apply their own virus checks to this message upon receipt. L'information communiquée dans les courriels en provenance de la Banque du Canada est soumise de bonne foi, mais elle ne saurait lier la Banque et ne doit aucunement être interprétée comme constituant une obligation de sa part. Le présent courriel peut contenir de l'information privilégiée ou confidentielle. La Banque du Canada ne renonce pas aux droits qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, utilisation ou copie de ce courriel ou des renseignements qu'il contient par une personne autre que le ou les destinataires désignés est interdite Si vous recevez ce courriel par erreur, veuillez le supprimer immédiatement et envoyer sans délai à l'expéditeur un message électronique pour l'aviser que vous avez éliminé de votre ordinateur toute copie du courriel reçu. Dès la réception du présent message, le ou les destinataires doivent activer leur programme de détection de virus pour éviter toute contamination possible.
RE: [Veritas-bu] Move /usr/openv to NFS mount coming from NetApps
Algo You could also archive older portions of the catalog to reduce it’s size. Lookup catarc in the admin guide and it will describe the process. I have tested it and archive and recovery works well. Monte From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Justin Piszcz Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 7:52 AM To: Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Cc: Algo Seeker; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Move /usr/openv to NFS mount coming from NetApps You could also compress the catalog, not a good thing to do, but the option is available. I see no problem though moving it to a NAS, as long as you shutdown all of the NB services, etc before you move the /usr/openv/netbackup/../db directory to the NAS. Justin. On 2/2/06, Peter DrakeUnderkoffler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I would think veritas support would not recommend this or condone it, but if you have no other choice, make sure you have the underlying network infrastructure/arch worked out. So the network connection to the netapp from the master server, can it be on a different link than how the NDMP backups take place (unless the drives are on the filer). Is that link resilient, if solaris ipmp, if linux bonding, if Windows ???. Bottom line is that you are going to tie your backup, or more importantly, restore to a separate infrastructure, not that this is right or wrong, you just need to think about the ramifications. Is the NetApp clustered? Replicated? Also, on nbu server startup, make sure that the mount is there before NBU starts. If you are running out of catalog space, then take note of how that catalog backups run and what impact that will have. Also, there may need to be some tuning if this is NFS for the mount, such as turning off acl checks, making it run over tcp, make sure the mount is hard but intr, etc... If this were to work, then it would give you clustering capabilities as well as an interesting DR solution. Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 Algo Seeker wrote: > I am running out of space on my internal drives. I am also thinking > about migrating to a new server. Anybody moved from local file system to > shared storage. Almost all of my backups are NDMP (Netapps), and as the > number of files are growing so is the Catalog. What are the pros and cons? > > Any input? > > Thanks, > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFD4iZql+lekZRM55oRAggvAKDNVX6WdkXf9ojMp6Z5k84vLAr3RgCfXBvw aiLqHalM4mld2GRRY4f11Tw= =wFJf -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Help with a Report request
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 He is only looking for this once.. where we have added a new machine to the policy he wants to scan through and look for a few key things. Thanks for you r assistance. Shawn Guillemette MetroCast Cablevision Infrastructure Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > bplist will show the files backed-up from a client & given > time-frame (lots of options). If you want to see the files in a > specific backup image name, then you'll need to use bpflist. > > This is one of those report, IMO, that have no meaning. You boss > intends to scan every line and try to identify which files weren't > backed up? > > -M > > -Original Message- From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Shawn > Guillemette Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 9:45 AM To: nbu > mailing list Subject: [Veritas-bu] Help with a Report request > > > Hello, > > Im new to NBU and looking to learning as much as possible about the > product. > > My boss has requested that I generate a report for him to show the > file names included in a backup of a new client including full path > if possible. He would like this in a digital format also if > possible. I have looked through the reports section on the GUI and > was unable to locate something that resembled what I (he) is > looking for. Im not so familuar with the CLI so Im sure their may > be a way to get this from he CLI as well. > > Im am running Veritas NBU 5.0GA MP6 Enterprise under a solaris 9 > environment. > ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFD4j0bnOBTBAmR9iwRAubHAJ9czFDcFbZqvofXr0HYaZEQMcOHQgCfXjJ7 hANmGvOqxbbsrL8Nm+1IM9k= =hNOv -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Help with a Report request
bplist will show the files backed-up from a client & given time-frame (lots of options). If you want to see the files in a specific backup image name, then you'll need to use bpflist. This is one of those report, IMO, that have no meaning. You boss intends to scan every line and try to identify which files weren't backed up? -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Shawn Guillemette Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 9:45 AM To: nbu mailing list Subject: [Veritas-bu] Help with a Report request -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, Im new to NBU and looking to learning as much as possible about the product. My boss has requested that I generate a report for him to show the file names included in a backup of a new client including full path if possible. He would like this in a digital format also if possible. I have looked through the reports section on the GUI and was unable to locate something that resembled what I (he) is looking for. Im not so familuar with the CLI so Im sure their may be a way to get this from he CLI as well. Im am running Veritas NBU 5.0GA MP6 Enterprise under a solaris 9 environment. - -- Shawn Guillemette MetroCast Cablevision Infrastructure Engineering -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFD4jcQnOBTBAmR9iwRAkdPAKCM+S0ljfKx2TMHk/0sOeyMvbt/BwCfS6yw NQdqj7qC2TADfjQV01CFe44= =TW1u -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Help with a Report request
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, Im new to NBU and looking to learning as much as possible about the product. My boss has requested that I generate a report for him to show the file names included in a backup of a new client including full path if possible. He would like this in a digital format also if possible. I have looked through the reports section on the GUI and was unable to locate something that resembled what I (he) is looking for. Im not so familuar with the CLI so Im sure their may be a way to get this from he CLI as well. Im am running Veritas NBU 5.0GA MP6 Enterprise under a solaris 9 environment. - -- Shawn Guillemette MetroCast Cablevision Infrastructure Engineering -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFD4jcQnOBTBAmR9iwRAkdPAKCM+S0ljfKx2TMHk/0sOeyMvbt/BwCfS6yw NQdqj7qC2TADfjQV01CFe44= =TW1u -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] How to determine which drive was used for backup
A backup can use more than one tape drive, as the fragments are written,
they can span tapes. Netbackup makes no attempt to mount the next tape to be
written on the same device as the previous tape.
Therefore the drive information is related to the image fragments, not
simply the image.
Tape number written to is field 9 of the bpimagelist "FRAG" lines.
Device-written-on (DWO) is field 14 of the same record (note, this is the
drive index number for the media server that wrote this image.
Example (client, image, &policy with copy, fragment, tape & DWO).
This could, of course, be made much prettier:
>bpimagelist -hoursago 1 | \
awk '$1=="IMAGE" {print "Client:",$2,"Policy:",$7,"Image:",$6}
$1=="FRAG"{print "Copy:",$2,"Frag:",$3,"Media:",$9,"DWO:",$14}'
Client: sg-09 Policy: NT_2 Image: sg-09_1138895840
Copy: 1 Frag: 1 Media: 003541 DWO: 6
Copy: 1 Frag: 2 Media: 003541 DWO: 6
Copy: 1 Frag: 3 Media: 003541 DWO: 6
Copy: 1 Frag: 4 Media: 003541 DWO: 6
Copy: 1 Frag: 5 Media: 003541 DWO: 6
Copy: 1 Frag: 6 Media: 003541 DWO: 6
Copy: 2 Frag: 1 Media: 005017 DWO: 3
Copy: 2 Frag: 2 Media: 005017 DWO: 3
Copy: 2 Frag: 3 Media: 005017 DWO: 3
Copy: 2 Frag: 4 Media: 005017 DWO: 3
Copy: 2 Frag: 5 Media: 005017 DWO: 3
Copy: 2 Frag: 6 Media: 005017 DWO: 3
Client: ap-61 Policy: P_NAS2_FS Image: ap-61_1138887927
Copy: 1 Frag: 1 Media: 003615 DWO: 8
Copy: 1 Frag: 2 Media: 003615 DWO: 8
Copy: 1 Frag: 3 Media: 003615 DWO: 8
Copy: 1 Frag: 4 Media: 003615 DWO: 8
Copy: 1 Frag: 5 Media: 003615 DWO: 8
Copy: 1 Frag: 6 Media: 003615 DWO: 8
Copy: 1 Frag: 7 Media: 005175 DWO: 2
Copy: 1 Frag: 8 Media: 005175 DWO: 2
Copy: 1 Frag: 9 Media: 005175 DWO: 2
Copy: 1 Frag: 10 Media: 005175 DWO: 2
Copy: 1 Frag: 11 Media: 005175 DWO: 2
Copy: 1 Frag: 12 Media: 005175 DWO: 2
The second example, if you notice, spanned tapes & switched drives in the
process.
-M
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Warren Hulley
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 1:39 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] How to determine which drive was used for backup
Hi All
I would just like to know if there is a way to see which drive was used for
a specific policy / backup.
I know that if you get an error, say and 84 error it gives you the drive
index. But with successful backups it doesn't give you the drive index.
Any help would be fantastic.
Kind Regards
Warren
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Rsync'ing the Netbackup Catalog?
I rsync my entire NBU installation. My DR strategy for my master server is to promote a media server to the master server. It goes like this: - rsync master:/opt/openv to media:/nbu/master/backup daily after backups complete - In the event that I lose my master server: I shut down NBU on my media server (all of them, actually) move media:/opt/openv to media://nbu/media/openv move media:/nbu/master/backup to media:/opt/openv rename/re-ip the media serve to that of the master server add FORCE_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVER = server hostname> reboot This takes about 30-45 minutes to do, and has been tested frequently. Works like a charm! Mike Haslam wrote: Has anyone had any experience using rsync to replicate their NetBackup catalog to a recovery site? I am investigating this option at the moment. I would be grateful for some help on how best to go about this, whether anything has to be taken offline within netbackup whilst rsync is running for the catalog, what command line options should be used for best results, the files backed up and if any exlcludes should be used? Has anyone succesfully, or otherwise, used an rsync'ed NetBackup catalog? --- This message and any attachment are confidential and may be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please telephone or email the sender and delete this message and any attachment from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy this message or attachment or disclose the contents to any other person. --- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -- === Steven L. Sesar Senior Operating Systems Programmer/Analyst UNIX Application Services R10A The MITRE Corporation 202 Burlington Road - KS101 Bedford, MA 01730 tel: (781) 271-7702 fax: (781) 271-2600 mobile: (617) 893-9635 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] === ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Move /usr/openv to NFS mount coming from NetApps
Thankyou very much, this is what I was looking for, I was too lazy for guide. Really appreciate the response.On 2/2/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is from the v5.1 install guide (p20):Because the product uses file locking, VERITAS recommends thatyou not install NetBackup in an NFS mounted directory. Filelocking in NFS mounted file systems can be unreliable. May not be a good idea, then.We had trouble running one of our large media servers on NFS, strange errorsbe blamed on performance problems. Moving the application dir to local diskcleared the issues. -M-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Algo SeekerSent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 7:51 AMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Move /usr/openv to NFS mount coming from NetApps I am running out of space on my internal drives. I am also thinking aboutmigrating to a new server. Anybody moved from local file system to sharedstorage. Almost all of my backups are NDMP (Netapps), and as the number of files are growing so is the Catalog. What are the pros and cons?Any input?Thanks,
RE: [Veritas-bu] Move /usr/openv to NFS mount coming from NetApps
This is from the v5.1 install guide (p20): Because the product uses file locking, VERITAS recommends that you not install NetBackup in an NFS mounted directory. File locking in NFS mounted file systems can be unreliable. May not be a good idea, then. We had trouble running one of our large media servers on NFS, strange errors be blamed on performance problems. Moving the application dir to local disk cleared the issues. -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Algo Seeker Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 7:51 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Move /usr/openv to NFS mount coming from NetApps I am running out of space on my internal drives. I am also thinking about migrating to a new server. Anybody moved from local file system to shared storage. Almost all of my backups are NDMP (Netapps), and as the number of files are growing so is the Catalog. What are the pros and cons? Any input? Thanks, ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Move /usr/openv to NFS mount coming from NetApps
We are a big netapp shop in hosting business. We do server tons of pages thru NFS mounts. The NFS link from reliable, and even a private-gig connection can be established for mount. I was hoping may be somebody has done it, and how was their experience. Now are the days when Oracle over NFS is supported and works great. It can be really a great thing to have for DR, if this can be done. Once again what I am trying to do is 0)Stop netbackup/remove from startup etc etc 1) mount netapp:/mountpoint /mnt 2) tar or cp of whatever i.e cp -pr /usr/openv /mnt 3) umount /mnt; mount netapp:/mountpoint /usr/openv 4)start netbackup It seems that simple and tempting Thanks, On 2/2/06, Greenberg, Katherine A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think I might've mis-interpreted the original question Are you moving this to SAN/SCSI attached disk? Or NAS? I thought you were saying you're backing up a lot of NDMP and that is filling the catalog, ergo, you want to move it to SAN/SCSI disk. Also, if you don't want to move the whole application, you can just move /usr/openv/netbackup/db to external disk and link it back in. I've also set things up that way in the past. ~Kate -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Justin PiszczSent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 10:52 AMTo: Peter DrakeUnderkofflerCc: Algo Seeker; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Move /usr/openv to NFS mount coming from NetApps You could also compress the catalog, not a good thing to do, but the option is available. I see no problem though moving it to a NAS, as long as you shutdown all of the NB services, etc before you move the /usr/openv/netbackup/../db directory to the NAS. Justin. On 2/2/06, Peter DrakeUnderkoffler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-Hash: SHA1I would think veritas support would not recommend this or condone it, but if you have no other choice, make sure you have the underlying network infrastructure/archworked out. So the network connection to the netapp from the master server, canit be on a different link than how the NDMP backups take place (unless the drives are on the filer). Is that link resilient, if solaris ipmp, if linux bonding, if Windows ???.Bottom line is that you are going to tie your backup, or more importantly, restoreto a separate infrastructure, not that this is right or wrong, you just need to think about the ramifications. Is the NetApp clustered? Replicated?Also, on nbu server startup, make sure that the mount is there before NBUstarts. If you are running out of catalog space, then take note of how that catalog backups run and what impact that will have. Also, there mayneed to be some tuning if this is NFS for the mount, such as turning offacl checks, making it run over tcp, make sure the mount is hard but intr, etc... If this were to work, then it would give you clustering capabilities as well asan interesting DR solution.Peter DrakeUnderkofflerXinupro, LLC617-834-2352Algo Seeker wrote:> I am running out of space on my internal drives. I am also thinking > about migrating to a new server. Anybody moved from local file system to> shared storage. Almost all of my backups are NDMP (Netapps), and as the> number of files are growing so is the Catalog. What are the pros and cons? >> Any input?>> Thanks,>-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD)iD8DBQFD4iZql+lekZRM55oRAggvAKDNVX6WdkXf9ojMp6Z5k84vLAr3RgCfXBvwaiLqHalM4mld2GRRY4f11Tw= =wFJf-END PGP SIGNATURE-___Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If youthink you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the senderbyreply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna
RE: [Veritas-bu] Move /usr/openv to NFS mount coming from NetApps
Algo Last I new placing the catalog on a mount from NetApp was not supported and can cause serious performance issues especially on large catalogs. In my past job as a VERITAS consultant I worked on an account that had a serious performance problem on a 1TB + catalog mounted from a NetApp. It wasn’t supported then (about a year ago) and we did see significant performance improvements when we did tests on the site on SAN attached disk Versus the NFS mounted file system. Monte From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Algo Seeker Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 7:12 AM To: Greenberg, Katherine A Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Move /usr/openv to NFS mount coming from NetApps I am talking about NAS attached and not SAN. Believe me there is a difference between these two. Thanks, On 2/2/06, Greenberg, Katherine A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You should be fine All my master servers have SAN attached storage for /usr/openv. ~Kate -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Algo Seeker Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 9:51 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Move /usr/openv to NFS mount coming from NetApps I am running out of space on my internal drives. I am also thinking about migrating to a new server. Anybody moved from local file system to shared storage. Almost all of my backups are NDMP (Netapps), and as the number of files are growing so is the Catalog. What are the pros and cons? Any input? Thanks, This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna
RE: [Veritas-bu] Move /usr/openv to NFS mount coming from NetApps
Title: Message Yes, this could work, just make sure you have a good DR plan or a fallback just in case :-) Simon WeaverTechnical SupportWindows Domain Administrator EADS AstriumTel: 02392-708598 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 February 2006 15:52To: Peter DrakeUnderkofflerCc: Algo Seeker; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Move /usr/openv to NFS mount coming from NetApps You could also compress the catalog, not a good thing to do, but the option is available. I see no problem though moving it to a NAS, as long as you shutdown all of the NB services, etc before you move the /usr/openv/netbackup/../db directory to the NAS. Justin. On 2/2/06, Peter DrakeUnderkoffler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-Hash: SHA1I would think veritas support would not recommend this or condone it, but if you have no other choice, make sure you have the underlying network infrastructure/archworked out. So the network connection to the netapp from the master server, canit be on a different link than how the NDMP backups take place (unless the drives are on the filer). Is that link resilient, if solaris ipmp, if linux bonding, if Windows ???.Bottom line is that you are going to tie your backup, or more importantly, restoreto a separate infrastructure, not that this is right or wrong, you just need to think about the ramifications. Is the NetApp clustered? Replicated?Also, on nbu server startup, make sure that the mount is there before NBUstarts. If you are running out of catalog space, then take note of how that catalog backups run and what impact that will have. Also, there mayneed to be some tuning if this is NFS for the mount, such as turning offacl checks, making it run over tcp, make sure the mount is hard but intr, etc... If this were to work, then it would give you clustering capabilities as well asan interesting DR solution.Peter DrakeUnderkofflerXinupro, LLC617-834-2352Algo Seeker wrote:> I am running out of space on my internal drives. I am also thinking > about migrating to a new server. Anybody moved from local file system to> shared storage. Almost all of my backups are NDMP (Netapps), and as the> number of files are growing so is the Catalog. What are the pros and cons? >> Any input?>> Thanks,>-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD)iD8DBQFD4iZql+lekZRM55oRAggvAKDNVX6WdkXf9ojMp6Z5k84vLAr3RgCfXBvwaiLqHalM4mld2GRRY4f11Tw= =wFJf-END PGP SIGNATURE-___Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduhttp://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email is for the intended addressee only. If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. Please notify the sender by return email. The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of EADS Astrium Limited. Nothing in this email shall bind EADS Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation. EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England
Re: [Veritas-bu] Move /usr/openv to NFS mount coming from NetApps
You could also compress the catalog, not a good thing to do, but the option is available. I see no problem though moving it to a NAS, as long as you shutdown all of the NB services, etc before you move the /usr/openv/netbackup/../db directory to the NAS. Justin. On 2/2/06, Peter DrakeUnderkoffler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-Hash: SHA1I would think veritas support would not recommend this or condone it, but if you have no other choice, make sure you have the underlying network infrastructure/archworked out. So the network connection to the netapp from the master server, canit be on a different link than how the NDMP backups take place (unless the drives are on the filer). Is that link resilient, if solaris ipmp, if linux bonding, if Windows ???.Bottom line is that you are going to tie your backup, or more importantly, restoreto a separate infrastructure, not that this is right or wrong, you just need to think about the ramifications. Is the NetApp clustered? Replicated?Also, on nbu server startup, make sure that the mount is there before NBUstarts. If you are running out of catalog space, then take note of how that catalog backups run and what impact that will have. Also, there mayneed to be some tuning if this is NFS for the mount, such as turning offacl checks, making it run over tcp, make sure the mount is hard but intr, etc... If this were to work, then it would give you clustering capabilities as well asan interesting DR solution.Peter DrakeUnderkofflerXinupro, LLC617-834-2352Algo Seeker wrote:> I am running out of space on my internal drives. I am also thinking > about migrating to a new server. Anybody moved from local file system to> shared storage. Almost all of my backups are NDMP (Netapps), and as the> number of files are growing so is the Catalog. What are the pros and cons? >> Any input?>> Thanks,>-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD)iD8DBQFD4iZql+lekZRM55oRAggvAKDNVX6WdkXf9ojMp6Z5k84vLAr3RgCfXBvwaiLqHalM4mld2GRRY4f11Tw= =wFJf-END PGP SIGNATURE-___Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Move /usr/openv to NFS mount coming from NetApps
Title: Message I think I might've mis-interpreted the original question Are you moving this to SAN/SCSI attached disk? Or NAS? I thought you were saying you're backing up a lot of NDMP and that is filling the catalog, ergo, you want to move it to SAN/SCSI disk. Also, if you don't want to move the whole application, you can just move /usr/openv/netbackup/db to external disk and link it back in. I've also set things up that way in the past. ~Kate -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Justin PiszczSent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 10:52 AMTo: Peter DrakeUnderkofflerCc: Algo Seeker; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Move /usr/openv to NFS mount coming from NetApps You could also compress the catalog, not a good thing to do, but the option is available. I see no problem though moving it to a NAS, as long as you shutdown all of the NB services, etc before you move the /usr/openv/netbackup/../db directory to the NAS. Justin. On 2/2/06, Peter DrakeUnderkoffler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-Hash: SHA1I would think veritas support would not recommend this or condone it, but if you have no other choice, make sure you have the underlying network infrastructure/archworked out. So the network connection to the netapp from the master server, canit be on a different link than how the NDMP backups take place (unless the drives are on the filer). Is that link resilient, if solaris ipmp, if linux bonding, if Windows ???.Bottom line is that you are going to tie your backup, or more importantly, restoreto a separate infrastructure, not that this is right or wrong, you just need to think about the ramifications. Is the NetApp clustered? Replicated?Also, on nbu server startup, make sure that the mount is there before NBUstarts. If you are running out of catalog space, then take note of how that catalog backups run and what impact that will have. Also, there mayneed to be some tuning if this is NFS for the mount, such as turning offacl checks, making it run over tcp, make sure the mount is hard but intr, etc... If this were to work, then it would give you clustering capabilities as well asan interesting DR solution.Peter DrakeUnderkofflerXinupro, LLC617-834-2352Algo Seeker wrote:> I am running out of space on my internal drives. I am also thinking > about migrating to a new server. Anybody moved from local file system to> shared storage. Almost all of my backups are NDMP (Netapps), and as the> number of files are growing so is the Catalog. What are the pros and cons? >> Any input?>> Thanks,>-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD)iD8DBQFD4iZql+lekZRM55oRAggvAKDNVX6WdkXf9ojMp6Z5k84vLAr3RgCfXBvwaiLqHalM4mld2GRRY4f11Tw= =wFJf-END PGP SIGNATURE-___Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduhttp://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If youthink you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the senderbyreply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you.Aetna
[Veritas-bu] Rsync'ing the Netbackup Catalog?
Has anyone had any experience using rsync to replicate their NetBackup catalog to a recovery site? I am investigating this option at the moment. I would be grateful for some help on how best to go about this, whether anything has to be taken offline within netbackup whilst rsync is running for the catalog, what command line options should be used for best results, the files backed up and if any exlcludes should be used? Has anyone succesfully, or otherwise, used an rsync'ed NetBackup catalog? --- This message and any attachment are confidential and may be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please telephone or email the sender and delete this message and any attachment from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy this message or attachment or disclose the contents to any other person. --- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Tape Alert Setting (Open for discussion)
Hi, I have recently moved to new environment, which actively uses the tape alert setting in Veritas and has cleaning tapes assigned etc. The drives used are HP-Ultrium2-LTO2, the same in the previous environment, which I was responsible for. As I recall in the NetBackup with LTO2 drives I read somewhere or a previous thread on this mailing list, it is not recommended to turn this feature on as it causes more probolems than it fixes? Can using the TapeAlert settings cause more drives to go down than normal? I am trying to figure that part out as my previous main environment had 8 LTO2 drives which did not use tapealert. The new environment has many more drives but they all use tape alert, does anyone have any experience in large or small environments using tape alert? I've always seen and followed the standard placing the NO_TAPE_ALERT file in /usr/openv/volmgr/somewhere as it had never run in the past in the previous environment so I saw no reason to run it. I realize the drives will get dirty after a certain amount of use and need to be cleaned. However, I have spoken with StorageTek in the past and they do not recommend cleaning the drives very often; although I guess that would depend on the use the drives see as well. Ultimately, I'd like to know: 1) Who uses tape alert? 2) Have you tried backups for an extended period of time with it on and off? 3) Does it create more problems than it fixes? Thanks, Justin.
Re: [Veritas-bu] Move /usr/openv to NFS mount coming from NetApps
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I would think veritas support would not recommend this or condone it, but if you have no other choice, make sure you have the underlying network infrastructure/arch worked out. So the network connection to the netapp from the master server, can it be on a different link than how the NDMP backups take place (unless the drives are on the filer). Is that link resilient, if solaris ipmp, if linux bonding, if Windows ???. Bottom line is that you are going to tie your backup, or more importantly, restore to a separate infrastructure, not that this is right or wrong, you just need to think about the ramifications. Is the NetApp clustered? Replicated? Also, on nbu server startup, make sure that the mount is there before NBU starts. If you are running out of catalog space, then take note of how that catalog backups run and what impact that will have. Also, there may need to be some tuning if this is NFS for the mount, such as turning off acl checks, making it run over tcp, make sure the mount is hard but intr, etc... If this were to work, then it would give you clustering capabilities as well as an interesting DR solution. Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 Algo Seeker wrote: > I am running out of space on my internal drives. I am also thinking > about migrating to a new server. Anybody moved from local file system to > shared storage. Almost all of my backups are NDMP (Netapps), and as the > number of files are growing so is the Catalog. What are the pros and cons? > > Any input? > > Thanks, > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFD4iZql+lekZRM55oRAggvAKDNVX6WdkXf9ojMp6Z5k84vLAr3RgCfXBvw aiLqHalM4mld2GRRY4f11Tw= =wFJf -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] AIX - tcp packets not timing out
Hi, I have a peculiar TCP/IP problem: AIX 5.1 Master and media servers SOlaris client (E15k) If the client goes down to single user, the media/master server process appears to hang, then when the client comes back up to multiuser, the process carries on as if nothing happened. If I try a ping "client"... from the master/media server - no response or timeout - just nothing . If I try the ping from a Solaris box, then a timeout will occur and the command exits. The same applies to a telnet session. Any similar issues encountered and if so - what fix? Cheers JdS
Re: [Veritas-bu] Move /usr/openv to NFS mount coming from NetApps
I am talking about NAS attached and not SAN. Believe me there is a difference between these two. Thanks, On 2/2/06, Greenberg, Katherine A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You should be fine All my master servers have SAN attached storage for /usr/openv. ~Kate -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Algo SeekerSent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 9:51 AMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Move /usr/openv to NFS mount coming from NetAppsI am running out of space on my internal drives. I am also thinking about migrating to a new server. Anybody moved from local file system to shared storage. Almost all of my backups are NDMP (Netapps), and as the number of files are growing so is the Catalog. What are the pros and cons?Any input?Thanks, This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If youthink you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the senderbyreply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna
RE: [Veritas-bu] Move /usr/openv to NFS mount coming from NetApps
Title: Message You should be fine All my master servers have SAN attached storage for /usr/openv. ~Kate -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Algo SeekerSent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 9:51 AMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Move /usr/openv to NFS mount coming from NetAppsI am running out of space on my internal drives. I am also thinking about migrating to a new server. Anybody moved from local file system to shared storage. Almost all of my backups are NDMP (Netapps), and as the number of files are growing so is the Catalog. What are the pros and cons?Any input?Thanks, This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If youthink you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the senderbyreply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you.Aetna
[Veritas-bu] Move /usr/openv to NFS mount coming from NetApps
I am running out of space on my internal drives. I am also thinking about migrating to a new server. Anybody moved from local file system to shared storage. Almost all of my backups are NDMP (Netapps), and as the number of files are growing so is the Catalog. What are the pros and cons? Any input? Thanks,
RE: [Veritas-bu] How to recover data from overwrited tape?
This won't work, as when the tape is starting to be overwritten, the EOM marker will be back towards the beginning of the tape. You won't be able to MT the tape past the EOM marker. -- M > Hello Jay > > If they have a unix media server, you may be able to extract the data with > tar, from the not yet overwritten part of the tapes. > > Regards > Michael ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] How to change NetBackup's TMP directory?
Do you know where this option is using the Windows NetBackup Restore tool and not the Veritas NetBackup Java GUI? Thanks, Justin. On 2/2/06, Len Boyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Justin If you are using one of the netbackup gui's programs to set up the restore, they each have a method to choose the name of the log file. This includes the full path. The exact location of this option depends on which gui program you are using. len From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Justin PiszczSent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 6:08 AMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] How to change NetBackup's TMP directory? During restores with millions of files, NetBackup saves the restore status to: 1) /tmp/bplog.rest.001 2) /tmp/bplog.rest.002 In which the current (or newest) bplog.rest file is 002, which continually grows, showing the status as each of the millions of files are restored to the server. This file as you can imagine will grow indefinitely with millions of files until the restoration is completed. Is there a way to re-direct NetBackup's bplog restore status to log to a partition OTHER THAN /tmp? NOTE: I am not using the NetBackup Advanced Client, the restore simply spans multiple weeks of data, which is why there are so many files. Thanks,
RE: [Veritas-bu] Licensing Question
I believe they will be available for the data to be restored onto the newly added server. The images will have an infinite retenion ok? As long as Netbackup knows about the images, you should be able to restore this data onto another server, and another location. (from the backup, archive, restore utility). I don't think Netbackup will complain as long as it has access to the data, media and a client to place the data back onto! That is how I see it at least. Simon -Original Message- From: Harry Tirrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 February 2006 13:26 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Licensing Question This is a question I have come across many times with my customers, and I can not find a documented answer, The customer has 100 client licenses and 100 clients, the customer decides to decommission 1 of those clients, and wants to reuse the client license. If the customer deletes all references to that client from the configuration, but puts an infinite retention time on the last full backup of the client. Will the catalog entries for that last backup be deleted, or will they remain in the DB for recovery to an alternate client. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email is for the intended addressee only. If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. Please notify the sender by return email. The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of EADS Astrium Limited. Nothing in this email shall bind EADS Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation. EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] How to recover data from overwrited tape?
Hi I also found this document, although reading through this, I am starting to wonder if its worth proceeding with! http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/205940.htm Hope its of some help! Simon Weaver Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Tel: 02392-708598 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 February 2006 13:27 To: Jay Cheon; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] How to recover data from overwrited tape? Hello Jay If they have a unix media server, you may be able to extract the data with tar, from the not yet overwritten part of the tapes. Regards Michael On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 14:59:12 +0900, Jay Cheon wrote > Hi All > > A few days ago, one of my customer had some mistake during manual > expire tapes. Some tape are needed for restore the data but the tape was already overwritten by other backup job. > How to restore the data from overwritten tape? > Anybody has experience about it? > > Any information would be appreciated. -- Cybercity Webhosting (http://www.cybercity.dk) ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email is for the intended addressee only. If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. Please notify the sender by return email. The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of EADS Astrium Limited. Nothing in this email shall bind EADS Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation. EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] How to recover data from overwrited tape?
Hello Jay If they have a unix media server, you may be able to extract the data with tar, from the not yet overwritten part of the tapes. Regards Michael On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 14:59:12 +0900, Jay Cheon wrote > Hi All > > A few days ago, one of my customer had some mistake during manual expire tapes. Some tape are needed for restore the data but the tape was already overwritten by other backup job. > How to restore the data from overwritten tape? > Anybody has experience about it? > > Any information would be appreciated. -- Cybercity Webhosting (http://www.cybercity.dk) ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Licensing Question
This is a question I have come across many times with my customers, and I can not find a documented answer, The customer has 100 client licenses and 100 clients, the customer decides to decommission 1 of those clients, and wants to reuse the client license. If the customer deletes all references to that client from the configuration, but puts an infinite retention time on the last full backup of the client. Will the catalog entries for that last backup be deleted, or will they remain in the DB for recovery to an alternate client. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup issues with NDMP restores
Title: Message due to the nature of NDMP "dump" backups, netbackup has to search the entire image before extracting the neccessary files to be restored, or at least that's how I understand it. In my experience, for a ~1.4TB volume that takes about 8+ hours to backup a single file restore takes about 1.5-2.0 hours a directory restore containing a few small files takes about 5-6 hours. a full filesystem restore however, probably only takes 10% longer than the full backup, so for DR purposes, it works quite well. given the option of taking 20+ hours to do a full backup via NFS, we decided to stick with NDMP. Also, if you have windows style Qtrees on your filer, you don't want to back them up via a unix NFS client, as the extended ACLs will not be preserved. Basically, for day to day restores, we're following the logic that we'll use snapshots for recovery of data lost in the last month, and go to tape for restores longer thna that (extended SLA, anyway) for a DR situation where we lose a volume, we'll either sync back from our truecopy, or we'll go to tapesince a DR has a different SLA again. Paul -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bhangui, Sandeep - BLS CTRSent: February 1, 2006 8:57 PMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup issues with NDMP restores Hi We backup tons of data on the filer we have using Veritas Netbackup using NDMP. Our NDMP backups are for all volumes coming from the filer which are NFS mounted on UNIX hosts primarily used for oracle and weblogic. I have read lot of posts on the forum that "NDMP restore sucks" can someone please elaborate on this is what is the real issue/concern. Can we not restore a single file or directory if recovered and does the whole volume has to be restored back for this??? We have not had a situation where we have to restore from tapes but after reading so many posts on the forum regarding "NDMP restores" I am little concerned. And all reviopus posts on this seem to say that the NDMP restore sucks and follks recommend to do NFS mount backups from the server for easy restore. Can someone throw some light on this. Thanks Sandeep La version française suit le texte anglais. This email message from the Bank of Canada is given in good faith, and shall not be binding or construed as constituting any obligation on the part of the Bank. This email may contain privileged and/or confidential information, and the Bank of Canada does not waive any related rights. Any distribution, use, or copying of this email or the information it contains by other than the intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this email in error please delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by email that you have done so. Recipients are advised to apply their own virus checks to this message upon receipt. L'information communiquée dans les courriels en provenance de la Banque du Canada est soumise de bonne foi, mais elle ne saurait lier la Banque et ne doit aucunement être interprétée comme constituant une obligation de sa part. Le présent courriel peut contenir de l'information privilégiée ou confidentielle. La Banque du Canada ne renonce pas aux droits qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, utilisation ou copie de ce courriel ou des renseignements qu'il contient par une personne autre que le ou les destinataires désignés est interdite Si vous recevez ce courriel par erreur, veuillez le supprimer immédiatement et envoyer sans délai à l'expéditeur un message électronique pour l'aviser que vous avez éliminé de votre ordinateur toute copie du courriel reçu. Dès la réception du présent message, le ou les destinataires doivent activer leur programme de détection de virus pour éviter toute contamination possible.
RE: [Veritas-bu] How to change NetBackup's TMP directory?
Justin If you are using one of the netbackup gui's programs to set up the restore, they each have a method to choose the name of the log file. This includes the full path. The exact location of this option depends on which gui program you are using. len From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Justin PiszczSent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 6:08 AMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] How to change NetBackup's TMP directory? During restores with millions of files, NetBackup saves the restore status to: 1) /tmp/bplog.rest.001 2) /tmp/bplog.rest.002 In which the current (or newest) bplog.rest file is 002, which continually grows, showing the status as each of the millions of files are restored to the server. This file as you can imagine will grow indefinitely with millions of files until the restoration is completed. Is there a way to re-direct NetBackup's bplog restore status to log to a partition OTHER THAN /tmp? NOTE: I am not using the NetBackup Advanced Client, the restore simply spans multiple weeks of data, which is why there are so many files. Thanks,
[Veritas-bu] How to change NetBackup's TMP directory?
During restores with millions of files, NetBackup saves the restore status to: 1) /tmp/bplog.rest.001 2) /tmp/bplog.rest.002 In which the current (or newest) bplog.rest file is 002, which continually grows, showing the status as each of the millions of files are restored to the server. This file as you can imagine will grow indefinitely with millions of files until the restoration is completed. Is there a way to re-direct NetBackup's bplog restore status to log to a partition OTHER THAN /tmp? NOTE: I am not using the NetBackup Advanced Client, the restore simply spans multiple weeks of data, which is why there are so many files. Thanks,
RE: [Veritas-bu] test email
Title: Message seems to work ! Simon WeaverTechnical SupportWindows Domain Administrator EADS AstriumTel: 02392-708598 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 February 2006 10:58To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] test email This email is for the intended addressee only. If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. Please notify the sender by return email. The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of EADS Astrium Limited. Nothing in this email shall bind EADS Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation. EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England
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RE: [Veritas-bu] duplication speed
The MPX is the killer. You can kick off multiple duplication processes, but Murphy's Law will catch you and multiple jobs will end up waiting for the same tape. You may as well shut it all down and carry the tapes with you by hand in a well padded box. Bobby Williams 2205 Peterson Drive Chattanooga, Tennessee 37421 423-296-8200 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Markham Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 9:27 AM To: Ed Wilts Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] duplication speed I have 4 drives and am multiplexing things so all drives are in use which i suppose is how i backed things up in 8 hours and yes i gave 2048 set for frag size ( which i've just thought is 2 meg not 2 gig isnt itone to change ) I have worked out the duplication has picked its first image, then mounted that tape and found other images on that and has started duplicating them. What it hasnt done is realize other images to be duplicated ( found with the bpduplicate -PM option ) are on different tapes and then mount them in the other drive. What i have done is to launch another bpduplicate with the -policy flag as i have worked out they are on different tapes than the ones already in progress. I assume when the original job tries to duplicate ones further down the list it will realize a job has already begun to do that.I hope so anyway. The percentage figure jumped from 1% to 6% when it had finished the first tape on the sets it is doing. That still was going to be out of time however as 6% in 140 minutes meant it would take 38 hours for the whole thing to complete. ((100/6) * 140) / 60 This is bad as im moving everything tomorrow at 4pm eek. D Ed Wilts wrote: >On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 12:14:25PM +, Dave Markham wrote: > > >>People i am moving an infrastructure from one site to the other. As >>part of this we are splitting things between different trucks for resilience. >> >> >> >How long did this backup take? > > > >>I am slightly concerned as it reckons the job is only 1% through on >>the gui. >> >> > >I never trust the % complete. It's rarely right. > > > >>When i run iostat -xn |egrep "rmt/0|rmt/2" i can see around 5mb/s >>which is about right for the DLT7000 drives i have in the L1000. >> >> > > > >>There are 32 images in total to duplicated and the backups took around >>8 hours to complete 290 gig. >> >> > >At 5MB/sec, that's 18GB per hour. To back up 290GB would take 16 hours. >I don't see how you completed this in 8 hours unless you were doing a >lot of compression. > >I need the duplications to be finished by > > >>tomorrow and as it has been nearly 2 hours now and saying only 1% >>complete im worried it wont be done. >> >> > >Can you estimate the actual speed by how fast it's changing tapes? A >DLT7000 is only 80GB compressed so you should be changing tapes every >few hours. 290GB in 8 hours is 36GB per hour so that would be a fresh >tape every 2 hours tops. > > > >>I am wondering what file num = Surely its not actually a file number >>and its only written 23 files in 2 hours. >> >> > >Are those 2GB file fragments? If so, that's about right - 46GB in 2 >hours or 23 GB per hour - that's better than 5MB/sec. That would put >your total time to complete at about 13 hours. > >.../Ed > > > ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] How to determine which drive was used for backup
Try: egrep "read| write_backup: media id" /usr/openv/netbackup/logs/bptm/* | grep -w drive | egrep -v "header|Number|mpx" Hi All I would just like to know if there is a way to see which drive was used for a specific policy / backup. I know that if you get an error, say and 84 error it gives you the drive index. But with successful backups it doesn't give you the drive index. Any help would be fantastic. Kind Regards Warren ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] How to determine which drive was used for backup
Title: How to determine which drive was used for backup Warren, One way would be to get the list of tapes written by backup and then look in the log files for mounts of those tapes (on Solaris, this is recorded in /var/adm/messages). Good Luck! Richard. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Warren Hulley Sent: 02 February 2006 08:39 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] How to determine which drive was used for backup Hi All I would just like to know if there is a way to see which drive was used for a specific policy / backup. I know that if you get an error, say and 84 error it gives you the drive index. But with successful backups it doesn't give you the drive index. Any help would be fantastic. Kind Regards Warren
RE: [Veritas-bu] client host properties not connecting
Title: Message Mark Are the clients on the same LAN as the Host Server? From the Host can you ping the client by Name, IP or make a connection to the client ? Is name resolution working ok (DNS for example)? Are the client machines running the correct version of the Netbackup client software that is used on the Netbackup Master Server? Simon WeaverTechnical SupportWindows Domain Administrator EADS AstriumTel: 02392-708598 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: Kilpatrick, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 February 2006 09:28To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] client host properties not connecting I can backup and restore to a server but when I try to access the client host properties I get a network connection timeout. This happens on about half of my clients but the others connect immediately. How do this connection take place and how can the connectivity be troubleshooted. Telnet, ftp host entries etc seem ok. Thanks, Mark Due to continued expansion Sabeo Technologies have moved office - to The Courtyard, Carmanhall Road, Sandyford, Dublin 18. Our telephone and fax numbers remain unchanged. A location map is available on our website www.sabeo.com. ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify Sabeo Technologies. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ** This email is for the intended addressee only. If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. Please notify the sender by return email. The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of EADS Astrium Limited. Nothing in this email shall bind EADS Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation. EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England
RE: [Veritas-bu] How to determine which drive was used for backup
Title: Message Warren My guess is the logs on \program files\veritas\netbackup\logs would give you a drive index number and you could reference this to the properties of the drive through the GUI perhaps? Simon WeaverTechnical SupportWindows Domain Administrator EADS AstriumTel: 02392-708598 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: Warren Hulley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 February 2006 08:39To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] How to determine which drive was used for backup Hi All I would just like to know if there is a way to see which drive was used for a specific policy / backup. I know that if you get an error, say and 84 error it gives you the drive index. But with successful backups it doesn't give you the drive index. Any help would be fantastic. Kind Regards Warren This email is for the intended addressee only. If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. Please notify the sender by return email. The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of EADS Astrium Limited. Nothing in this email shall bind EADS Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation. EADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England
[Veritas-bu] client host properties not connecting
I can backup and restore to a server but when I try to access the client host properties I get a network connection timeout. This happens on about half of my clients but the others connect immediately. How do this connection take place and how can the connectivity be troubleshooted. Telnet, ftp host entries etc seem ok. Thanks, Mark Due to continued expansion Sabeo Technologies have moved office – to The Courtyard, Carmanhall Road, Sandyford, Dublin 18. Our telephone and fax numbers remain unchanged. A location map is available on our website www.sabeo.com. ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify Sabeo Technologies. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. **
[Veritas-bu] How to determine which drive was used for backup
Title: How to determine which drive was used for backup Hi All I would just like to know if there is a way to see which drive was used for a specific policy / backup. I know that if you get an error, say and 84 error it gives you the drive index. But with successful backups it doesn't give you the drive index. Any help would be fantastic. Kind Regards Warren
Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup issues with NDMP restores
As Len said, it works fine in general with the caveat about DAR. How much of a problem that is depends on the skill of your backup staff. It is very easy when a call comes in to a helpdesk to 'restore folder xyz' to just do it the same as any other non-NDMP restore. This is a bad idea, as if you select a folder to restore DAR is switched off and the restore typically takes as long as the backup - for some of ours that could be 18 hours. Tying up drives doing restores that are required for the next backup causes knock-on effects. Provided the operators are trained to know which are NDMP restores, and then only ever select files to restore, it is OK. If you need more than 1024 files back you can break it into several restores. It is possible to use bplist to get the list of files, treat it to prefix the path lengths to each line, and feed it to bprestore as a file with the 'file list' in it. More thought up front pays dividends later. Also - not all appliances are equal in terms of performance. NetApp are OK but you cannot adjust the tape block size above 64k, so they don't get full performance from any LTO drive. EMC Celerra since DART 5.3 are better, not good though - but there is a lot you can tune now. Others I don't know about. William D L Brown "Bhangui, Sandeep - BLS CTR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02-Feb-2006 01:57 To veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject [Veritas-bu] Netbackup issues with NDMP restores Hi We backup tons of data on the filer we have using Veritas Netbackup using NDMP. Our NDMP backups are for all volumes coming from the filer which are NFS mounted on UNIX hosts primarily used for oracle and weblogic. I have read lot of posts on the forum that "NDMP restore sucks" can someone please elaborate on this is what is the real issue/concern. Can we not restore a single file or directory if recovered and does the whole volume has to be restored back for this??? We have not had a situation where we have to restore from tapes but after reading so many posts on the forum regarding "NDMP restores" I am little concerned. And all reviopus posts on this seem to say that the NDMP restore sucks and follks recommend to do NFS mount backups from the server for easy restore. Can someone throw some light on this. Thanks Sandeep ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
