Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 Backup selections browsing

[Wilkinson, Tim]

Title: Message



I suppose in the greater scope of my original question, I'm 
talking about both.
 
I only use Windows console and it's the first one that you 
mention but it can be installed on other computers (go through server install 
and install 'Remote Administration console'); it doesn't have to be run on 
the Master itself.
 
To reiterate, the Master is Unix (on this site; on other 
sites we have a Windows Master), the computer I'm accessing it from is Windows 
using a Remote Administration Console (not the java one). Windows Master can 
browse Unix/Linux clients but Unix Master cannot browse Windows clients (in the 
policies).


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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RichardSent: Friday, 14 July 2006 11:16 AMTo: 
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 
Backup selections browsing

I have only ever used NetBackup 6 (on a Windows 
server) and the only consoles I have discovered so far are the 
'NetBackup Administration Console which gets installed as part of the server 
install and the 'NetBackup - Java Console' which can be installed separately. 
Are you referring to one of these or is there another one I haven't discovered 
yet?
 
Regards
 
Richard

  
  
  From: Wilkinson, Tim 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 14 July 
  2006 12:06 pmTo: Mansell, Richard; 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 
  Backup selections browsing
  
  It's the Windows Netbackup remote admin console; this is 
  different from the Java console isn't it (at least the CDs seem to think it 
  is)?
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Mansell, RichardSent: Friday, 14 July 2006 9:58 
  AMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: 
  [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 Backup selections browsing
  
  Huh, is there a non java remote admin console or is 
  that something you get with a UNIX Master?
   
  Regards
   
  Richard
  


From: Wilkinson, Tim 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 14 July 
2006 11:47 amTo: Mansell, Richard; 
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 
Backup selections browsing

This is the thing though; with a remote admin console 
(non Java version) on Windows-based machine (connecting to a Unix Master), I 
can't browse either, so it doesn't look like it's an issue with using the 
Java GUI.
 
Cheers,
 
Tim


From: 
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Mansell, RichardSent: Friday, 14 July 2006 7:41 
AMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: 
[Veritas-bu] NBU 6 Backup selections browsing

Paul
 
The browsing Tim appears to be talking about is on 
the backup selections tab in a policy so the server must get a list of 
file systems and files via the agent on the client, not physically mount 
file systems.
 
I think it is just a feature (or lack of) of the 
Java GUI. We are mainly a Windows based shop and I can't browse any client 
file systems using the Java GUI whereas I can browse both UNIX and 
Windows clients with the Windows GUI.
 
Regards
 
Richard

  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Paul KeatingSent: Friday, 14 July 2006 12:24 
  amTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: 
  [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 Backup selections browsing
  
   been like that as long as I can 
  remember.
   
  a unix host can't natively mount a windows share.(ie NFS 
  vs CIFS) so a unix master/media cannot inspect the filesystem of the 
  windows client to "browse".
   
  Paul
   
   
  -- 
  

-Original Message-From: 
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Wilkinson, TimSent: July 12, 2006 11:30 PMTo: 
Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 
Backup selections browsing
Hi,
 
We've found some differing behaviour in 
regards to browsing backup selections using NBU6; A Windows Master 
appears to be able to browse Unix\Linux files systems on clients, 
whereas a Unix Master does not appear to be able to browse Windows (the 
path has to be entered manually).
Is this as expected? Does anyone know 
why?
I'd guess it has something to do with the 
GUI; on Unix (java GUI), there is no button to browse, and although a 
remote admin console in Windows (connecting to Unix Master) has a browse 
button, it isn't actually an active operation on the Unix Master (or 
something like that).
 
Cheers,
 
Tim**This 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 Backup selections browsing

[Mansell, Richard]

Title: Message



I have only ever used NetBackup 6 (on a Windows 
server) and the only consoles I have discovered so far are the 
'NetBackup Administration Console which gets installed as part of the server 
install and the 'NetBackup - Java Console' which can be installed separately. 
Are you referring to one of these or is there another one I haven't discovered 
yet?
 
Regards
 
Richard

  
  
  From: Wilkinson, Tim 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 14 July 
  2006 12:06 pmTo: Mansell, Richard; 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 
  Backup selections browsing
  
  It's the Windows Netbackup remote admin console; this is 
  different from the Java console isn't it (at least the CDs seem to think it 
  is)?
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Mansell, RichardSent: Friday, 14 July 2006 9:58 
  AMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: 
  [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 Backup selections browsing
  
  Huh, is there a non java remote admin console or is 
  that something you get with a UNIX Master?
   
  Regards
   
  Richard
  


From: Wilkinson, Tim 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 14 July 
2006 11:47 amTo: Mansell, Richard; 
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 
Backup selections browsing

This is the thing though; with a remote admin console 
(non Java version) on Windows-based machine (connecting to a Unix Master), I 
can't browse either, so it doesn't look like it's an issue with using the 
Java GUI.
 
Cheers,
 
Tim


From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Mansell, RichardSent: Friday, 14 July 2006 7:41 
AMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: 
[Veritas-bu] NBU 6 Backup selections browsing

Paul
 
The browsing Tim appears to be talking about is on 
the backup selections tab in a policy so the server must get a list of 
file systems and files via the agent on the client, not physically mount 
file systems.
 
I think it is just a feature (or lack of) of the 
Java GUI. We are mainly a Windows based shop and I can't browse any client 
file systems using the Java GUI whereas I can browse both UNIX and 
Windows clients with the Windows GUI.
 
Regards
 
Richard

  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Paul KeatingSent: Friday, 14 July 2006 12:24 
  amTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: 
  [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 Backup selections browsing
  
   been like that as long as I can 
  remember.
   
  a unix host can't natively mount a windows share.(ie NFS 
  vs CIFS) so a unix master/media cannot inspect the filesystem of the 
  windows client to "browse".
   
  Paul
   
   
  -- 
  

-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Wilkinson, TimSent: July 12, 2006 11:30 PMTo: 
Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 
Backup selections browsing
Hi,
 
We've found some differing behaviour in 
regards to browsing backup selections using NBU6; A Windows Master 
appears to be able to browse Unix\Linux files systems on clients, 
whereas a Unix Master does not appear to be able to browse Windows (the 
path has to be entered manually).
Is this as expected? Does anyone know 
why?
I'd guess it has something to do with the 
GUI; on Unix (java GUI), there is no button to browse, and although a 
remote admin console in Windows (connecting to Unix Master) has a browse 
button, it isn't actually an active operation on the Unix Master (or 
something like that).
 
Cheers,
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 Backup selections browsing

[Wilkinson, Tim]

Title: Message



It's the Windows Netbackup remote admin console; this is 
different from the Java console isn't it (at least the CDs seem to think it 
is)?


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mansell, 
RichardSent: Friday, 14 July 2006 9:58 AMTo: 
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 
Backup selections browsing

Huh, is there a non java remote admin console or is 
that something you get with a UNIX Master?
 
Regards
 
Richard

  
  
  From: Wilkinson, Tim 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 14 July 
  2006 11:47 amTo: Mansell, Richard; 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 
  Backup selections browsing
  
  This is the thing though; with a remote admin console 
  (non Java version) on Windows-based machine (connecting to a Unix Master), I 
  can't browse either, so it doesn't look like it's an issue with using the Java 
  GUI.
   
  Cheers,
   
  Tim
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Mansell, RichardSent: Friday, 14 July 2006 7:41 
  AMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: 
  [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 Backup selections browsing
  
  Paul
   
  The browsing Tim appears to be talking about is on 
  the backup selections tab in a policy so the server must get a list of 
  file systems and files via the agent on the client, not physically mount file 
  systems.
   
  I think it is just a feature (or lack of) of the Java 
  GUI. We are mainly a Windows based shop and I can't browse any client file 
  systems using the Java GUI whereas I can browse both UNIX and Windows 
  clients with the Windows GUI.
   
  Regards
   
  Richard
  


From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul 
KeatingSent: Friday, 14 July 2006 12:24 amTo: 
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 
Backup selections browsing

 been like that as long as I can 
remember.
 
a 
unix host can't natively mount a windows share.(ie NFS vs CIFS) so 
a unix master/media cannot inspect the filesystem of the windows client to 
"browse".
 
Paul
 
 
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  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Wilkinson, TimSent: July 12, 2006 11:30 PMTo: 
  Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 
  Backup selections browsing
  Hi,
   
  We've found some differing behaviour in 
  regards to browsing backup selections using NBU6; A Windows Master appears 
  to be able to browse Unix\Linux files systems on clients, whereas a Unix 
  Master does not appear to be able to browse Windows (the path has to be 
  entered manually).
  Is this as expected? Does anyone know 
  why?
  I'd guess it has something to do with the 
  GUI; on Unix (java GUI), there is no button to browse, and although a 
  remote admin console in Windows (connecting to Unix Master) has a browse 
  button, it isn't actually an active operation on the Unix Master (or 
  something like that).
   
  Cheers,
   
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[Veritas-bu] NBDB upgrade

[Brandon Zermeno]

FYI, If you are running NBU6 and followed
the instruction on page 557 of the Admin guide and changed the NBDB database
password, the installation of MP2 and MP3 will fail. I would like to thank
Veritas for that little “feature”. The update works  after you set
the password back to the default.




 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 Backup selections browsing

[Mansell, Richard]

Title: Message



Huh, is there a non java remote admin console or is 
that something you get with a UNIX Master?
 
Regards
 
Richard

  
  
  From: Wilkinson, Tim 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 14 July 
  2006 11:47 amTo: Mansell, Richard; 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 
  Backup selections browsing
  
  This is the thing though; with a remote admin console 
  (non Java version) on Windows-based machine (connecting to a Unix Master), I 
  can't browse either, so it doesn't look like it's an issue with using the Java 
  GUI.
   
  Cheers,
   
  Tim
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Mansell, RichardSent: Friday, 14 July 2006 7:41 
  AMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: 
  [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 Backup selections browsing
  
  Paul
   
  The browsing Tim appears to be talking about is on 
  the backup selections tab in a policy so the server must get a list of 
  file systems and files via the agent on the client, not physically mount file 
  systems.
   
  I think it is just a feature (or lack of) of the Java 
  GUI. We are mainly a Windows based shop and I can't browse any client file 
  systems using the Java GUI whereas I can browse both UNIX and Windows 
  clients with the Windows GUI.
   
  Regards
   
  Richard
  


From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul 
KeatingSent: Friday, 14 July 2006 12:24 amTo: 
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 
Backup selections browsing

 been like that as long as I can 
remember.
 
a 
unix host can't natively mount a windows share.(ie NFS vs CIFS) so 
a unix master/media cannot inspect the filesystem of the windows client to 
"browse".
 
Paul
 
 
-- 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Wilkinson, TimSent: July 12, 2006 11:30 PMTo: 
  Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 
  Backup selections browsing
  Hi,
   
  We've found some differing behaviour in 
  regards to browsing backup selections using NBU6; A Windows Master appears 
  to be able to browse Unix\Linux files systems on clients, whereas a Unix 
  Master does not appear to be able to browse Windows (the path has to be 
  entered manually).
  Is this as expected? Does anyone know 
  why?
  I'd guess it has something to do with the 
  GUI; on Unix (java GUI), there is no button to browse, and although a 
  remote admin console in Windows (connecting to Unix Master) has a browse 
  button, it isn't actually an active operation on the Unix Master (or 
  something like that).
   
  Cheers,
   
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 Backup selections browsing

[Wilkinson, Tim]

Title: Message



This is the thing though; with a remote admin console (non 
Java version) on Windows-based machine (connecting to a Unix Master), I can't 
browse either, so it doesn't look like it's an issue with using the Java 
GUI.
 
Cheers,
 
Tim


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mansell, 
RichardSent: Friday, 14 July 2006 7:41 AMTo: 
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 
Backup selections browsing

Paul
 
The browsing Tim appears to be talking about is on the 
backup selections tab in a policy so the server must get a list of file 
systems and files via the agent on the client, not physically mount file 
systems.
 
I think it is just a feature (or lack of) of the Java 
GUI. We are mainly a Windows based shop and I can't browse any client file 
systems using the Java GUI whereas I can browse both UNIX and Windows 
clients with the Windows GUI.
 
Regards
 
Richard

  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul 
  KeatingSent: Friday, 14 July 2006 12:24 amTo: 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 
  Backup selections browsing
  
   been like that 
  as long as I can 
  remember.
   
  a 
  unix host can't natively mount a windows share.(ie NFS vs CIFS) so a 
  unix master/media cannot inspect the filesystem of the windows client to 
  "browse".
   
  Paul
   
   
  -- 
  

-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Wilkinson, TimSent: July 12, 2006 11:30 PMTo: 
Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 
Backup selections browsing
Hi,
 
We've found some differing behaviour in regards 
to browsing backup selections using NBU6; A Windows Master appears to be 
able to browse Unix\Linux files systems on clients, whereas a Unix Master 
does not appear to be able to browse Windows (the path has to be entered 
manually).
Is this as expected? Does anyone know 
why?
I'd guess it has something to do with the GUI; 
on Unix (java GUI), there is no button to browse, and although a remote 
admin console in Windows (connecting to Unix Master) has a browse button, it 
isn't actually an active operation on the Unix Master (or something like 
that).
 
Cheers,
 
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[Veritas-bu] Getting Media Manger error(s) on atleast 13 client systems....

[Joseph Despres]

NBU = 4.5 fp9  Solaris 9 on both
the master and the media servers in question.

Master = 440r  Media = 240r..

All failures are on windows systems..
and most are Lotus Notes systems..

I have seen this error on other media
server...  but I think they are getting hit by the "nocanput"
issue

I'm getting the following error(s):

$ bperror -U -problems -client AMER-EX01-bu
    TIME      
     SERVER/CLIENT            
         TEXT
07/12/2006 22:32:46 cscbk03 AMER-EX01-bu
 attempted to write 104 gigabytes,
           
        1962619040 bytes, it is not a multiple of 512
07/12/2006 22:32:48 cscbk03 AMER-EX01-bu
 backup of client AMER-EX01-bu exited
           
        with status 174 (media manager - system error
occurred)
07/13/2006 00:39:12 cscbk03 AMER-EX01-bu
 attempted to write 104 gigabytes,
           
        206984 bytes, it is not a multiple of 512
07/13/2006 00:39:25 cscbk03 AMER-EX01-bu
 suspending further backup attempts for
           
        client AMER-EX01-bu, policy
           
        cscbk04_CSC_GDAC-Domino_TEST_jdespres, schedule
           
        Daily_Incremental because it has exceeded the
configured
           
        number of tries
07/13/2006 00:39:25 cscbk03 AMER-EX01-bu
 backup of client AMER-EX01-bu exited
           
        with status 174 (media manager - system error
occurred)

$ bperror -U -problems -client AMER-EX02-bu
    TIME      
     SERVER/CLIENT            
         TEXT
07/12/2006 22:13:11 cscbk03 AMER-EX02-bu
 attempted to write 94 gigabytes,
           
        1101648724 bytes, it is not a multiple of 512
07/12/2006 22:13:12 cscbk03 AMER-EX02-bu
 backup of client AMER-EX02-bu exited
           
        with status 174 (media manager - system error
occurred)
07/13/2006 00:07:13 cscbk03 AMER-EX02-bu
 attempted to write 94 gigabytes,
           
        1199050912 bytes, it is not a multiple of 512
07/13/2006 00:07:16 cscbk03 AMER-EX02-bu
 suspending further backup attempts for
           
        client AMER-EX02-bu, policy
           
        cscbk04_CSC_GDAC-Domino_TEST_jdespres, schedule
           
        Daily_Incremental because it has exceeded the
configured
           
        number of tries
07/13/2006 00:07:16 cscbk03 AMER-EX02-bu
 backup of client AMER-EX02-bu exited
           
        with status 174 (media manager - system error
occurred)

Logs have been sent to Symantec:  They
are reporting the following:

109.731346801 GB sent by bpbkar process on
the client
108.1812944268 GB received by the bptm process on the Media server

Note:  Media server is receiving fewer
bytes than what was sent!

I have done or checked the following:

1.  Adjusted buffer setting on client
& media server
2.  Check to see if the nic's are in
66mhz slots...
3.  Windows clients nic drivers have
been updated!
4.  Checked and see if the bge nics
on the media servers drivers are up to date...
5.  Clients fail on multiple media servers...
6.  Check for nocanput error(s)
7.  Checked to see if we are taking
error(s) on the network ports
8.  There are no routers on backup network...
9.  Applied the fix for Lotus Notes
 but this nukes the Java console the Lotus notes 
support team uses to manage their app...
10.  I have run the sas app and
turned in the results

And after all this  it's still
failing!

I'm at the end of my rope

Joe Despres...

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 Backup selections browsing

[Mansell, Richard]

Title: Message



Paul
 
The browsing Tim appears to be talking about is on the 
backup selections tab in a policy so the server must get a list of file 
systems and files via the agent on the client, not physically mount file 
systems.
 
I think it is just a feature (or lack of) of the Java 
GUI. We are mainly a Windows based shop and I can't browse any client file 
systems using the Java GUI whereas I can browse both UNIX and Windows 
clients with the Windows GUI.
 
Regards
 
Richard

  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul 
  KeatingSent: Friday, 14 July 2006 12:24 amTo: 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 
  Backup selections browsing
  
   been like that 
  as long as I can 
  remember.
   
  a 
  unix host can't natively mount a windows share.(ie NFS vs CIFS) so a 
  unix master/media cannot inspect the filesystem of the windows client to 
  "browse".
   
  Paul
   
   
  -- 
  

-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Wilkinson, TimSent: July 12, 2006 11:30 PMTo: 
Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 
Backup selections browsing
Hi,
 
We've found some differing behaviour in regards 
to browsing backup selections using NBU6; A Windows Master appears to be 
able to browse Unix\Linux files systems on clients, whereas a Unix Master 
does not appear to be able to browse Windows (the path has to be entered 
manually).
Is this as expected? Does anyone know 
why?
I'd guess it has something to do with the GUI; 
on Unix (java GUI), there is no button to browse, and although a remote 
admin console in Windows (connecting to Unix Master) has a browse button, it 
isn't actually an active operation on the Unix Master (or something like 
that).
 
Cheers,
 
Tim

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Sun branded Emulex SG-XPCI2FC-EM2 problems?

[Chapman, Scott]

Title: Message



Does anyone know if this issue exists if 
Solaris 8 is the OS, not Solaris 10?  I was planning on installing one of 
these cards next week . . .
 
Thanks! 
 
 -Original 
Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob 
StumpSent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 1:12 PMTo: 
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; Bob StumpSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] 
Sun branded Emulex SG-XPCI2FC-EM2 problems?

  The fix was found by a UNIX admin using google.
  symantec dropped the ticket after saying, "It's a Sun problem"
  VERITAS would have done the google, discovered the patch, downloaded it, 
  and set it up for me to download.
   
  Is that why VERITAS Software was in all uppercase letters while 
  symantec uses all small letters?
   
   
   
  >>> "Bob Stump" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7/13/2006 
  10:32 AM >>>
  
  There is a potential for data loss. I experienced it.
  It is possible for the entire tape to become corrupted.
  Thankfully, this was on a new NetBackup installation so I was able to 
  catch up with new full backups.
  The fix is a Sun patch 120222-10
   
  http://sunsolve.sun.com/search/document.do?assetkey=1-21-120222-10-1
   >>> "Bob Stump" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  7/10/2006 11:35 AM >>>
  
  I am experiencing media position errors on a new master/media server 
  using 6.0 MP3. I opened up a support call with symantec and they referred to 
  an internal symantec technote on a known problem. The hardware is Sun branded 
  Emulex SG-XPCI2FC-EM2 on an 890 platform running Solaris 10. They told me 
  to contact Sun for a replacement card.
   
  Has anyone experienced this and what did you do to correct it? 
  Is there a new driver available or does there need to 
  be hardware replacement?
   
  Bob 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Vault Catalog?

[Liddle, Stuart]

yes.and it works quite well.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barber, 
Layne (Contractor)Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:00 
AMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: 
[Veritas-bu] Vault Catalog?

Is it possible to 
setup a vault to only do a catalog backup and eject it w/o it doing anything 
else? (vaulting other backups etc.)
 
Thank You,
 
Layne Barber
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Sun branded Emulex SG-XPCI2FC-EM2 problems?

[Bob Stump]

The fix was found by a UNIX admin using google.
symantec dropped the ticket after saying, "It's a Sun problem"
VERITAS would have done the google, discovered the patch, downloaded it, and set it up for me to download.
 
Is that why VERITAS Software was in all uppercase letters while symantec uses all small letters?
 
 
 
>>> "Bob Stump" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7/13/2006 10:32 AM >>>

There is a potential for data loss. I experienced it.
It is possible for the entire tape to become corrupted.
Thankfully, this was on a new NetBackup installation so I was able to catch up with new full backups.
The fix is a Sun patch 120222-10
 
http://sunsolve.sun.com/search/document.do?assetkey=1-21-120222-10-1
 >>> "Bob Stump" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7/10/2006 11:35 AM >>>

I am experiencing media position errors on a new master/media server using 6.0 MP3. I opened up a support call with symantec and they referred to an internal symantec technote on a known problem. The hardware is Sun branded Emulex SG-XPCI2FC-EM2 on an 890 platform running Solaris 10. They told me to contact Sun for a replacement card.
 
Has anyone experienced this and what did you do to correct it? 
Is there a new driver available or does there need to be hardware replacement?
 
Bob 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Moving media from one master to another.

[Mark.Donaldson]

One master to another is a "bpimport" procedure, I'm afraid.  "bpmedia"
is only for media-server to media-server.

-M 

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Horalek
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 1:44 PM
To: Veritas-Bu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Moving media from one master to another.

Anyone know how to move media from on mastet to another master?
Cavat old server is an Sgi(Unix) New server is Windows.
Note: I'm not trying to keep the same hostname for the master.
Bpmedia ?? NBU 5.0

Thanks.

Jim

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[Veritas-bu] Moving media from one master to another.

[Jim Horalek]

Anyone know how to move media from on mastet to another master?
Cavat old server is an Sgi(Unix) New server is Windows.
Note: I'm not trying to keep the same hostname for the master.
Bpmedia ?? NBU 5.0

Thanks.

Jim

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[Veritas-bu] NB6 MP3 Linux :: Services not starting

[Dustin D'Amour]

Anybody ever have services not starting if the master server
gets rebooted?  

 

I get all the same ones which are the ones listed in the
following image http://www.imagereality.com/Images/Veritas/servicesNotStarting.JPG


 

 

 

Dustin D'Amour
Coyote Solutions Group

505.742.0066

www.coyotesolutions.com

 

"Relax...it's just an update for
the patch to fix the nerf that nerfed the fix for the update of the patch that
broke the fix that was fixed."

 






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Re: [Veritas-bu] Vault Catalog?

[Ed Wilts]

On Thu, Jul 13, 2006 at 01:00:06PM -0500, Barber, Layne (Contractor) wrote:
> Is it possible to setup a vault to only do a catalog backup and eject it
> w/o it doing anything else? (vaulting other backups etc.)

Yup.  When you create the vault profile, just check the box beside "skip
duplication step".  In the first step, just make sure you set up a
selection criteria that doesn't match anything you want ejected.

.../Ed


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[Veritas-bu] Vault Catalog?

[Barber, Layne \(Contractor\)]

Is it possible to 
setup a vault to only do a catalog backup and eject it w/o it doing anything 
else? (vaulting other backups etc.)
 
Thank You,
 
Layne Barber
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited

[Ed Wilts]

On Thu, Jul 13, 2006 at 12:34:16PM -0400, Brooks, Jason wrote:
> Paul,
>   You must be a seer, or highly experience. :-)
> 
>   What we found was that with the move, all the switch ports were
> set to Auto, but my master & media were at 100-Full.  Had a network
> engineer correct the port and it's all good!  I will soon look at moving
> to auto, since we have Gig cards and a Gig switch.

We've all been there.  First blame the network.  Works for me :-).  I've
seen the issues on Windows, Solaris, HP-UX, OpenVMS, but not Linux
(yet).  You'd think we would have learned after the first dozen or so
times we've across it.

.../Ed

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited

[Paul Keating]

*raises hand*

I've seen linux too.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Wilts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: July 13, 2006 12:46 PM
> To: Brooks, Jason
> Cc: Paul Keating; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited
> 
> 
> We've all been there.  First blame the network.  Works for me 
> :-).  I've
> seen the issues on Windows, Solaris, HP-UX, OpenVMS, but not Linux
> (yet).  You'd think we would have learned after the first dozen or so
> times we've across it.
> 
> .../Ed

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited

[Paul Keating]

*shrug*

Well my grandmother and her sisters tell fortunes, but I don't think
I've inherited their abilities.

Seen plenty of these issues...one or two a week on the client
side.if I come in at 8am and there's a backup job still running,
pushing data at sub 100KB/s , I'd say better than 99 in 100, it's
running at half duplex.

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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
> Of Brooks, Jason
> Sent: July 13, 2006 12:34 PM
> To: Paul Keating; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited
> 
> 
> Paul,
>   You must be a seer, or highly experience. :-)
> 
>   What we found was that with the move, all the switch ports were
> set to Auto, but my master & media were at 100-Full.  Had a network
> engineer correct the port and it's all good!  I will soon 
> look at moving
> to auto, since we have Gig cards and a Gig switch.
> 
> Thanks to all,
> Jason 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited

[Brooks, Jason]

Yep, we're predominantly a Windows shop, but we do have a few dozen
linux servers.

jason 

> -Original Message-
> From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 9:53 AM
> To: Brooks, Jason; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited
> 
> 
> Jason
> No worries - Also, do you have a lot of Windows clients? 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Simon Weaver
> 3rd Line Technical Support
> Windows Domain Administrator 
> 
> EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
> Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
> 
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Brooks, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 13 July 2006 14:44
> To: WEAVER, Simon; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited
> 
> 
> Simon,
>   Thanks.  I've confirmed with our Networking group, and 
> it does seem
> that something was misconfigured, or missed.  I'm waiting for 
> a test job to
> run and see if the speeds are any better.  Lately, this one has ran at
> 18K/sec.  We'll see.  I'll let the list know what I find, to 
> either 'close'
> the issue or offer more info.
> 
>   As for the Master/Media servers, nothing odd outside of 
> needing an
> occasional reboot to refresh.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jason 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 9:29 AM
> > To: Brooks, Jason; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> > Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited
> > 
> > 
> > Jason
> > First things first - Network infrastructure! Something
> > definetely sounds a little "off" here.
> > Also, ensure all Network related clients are talking at 
> > correct maximum speed, as if they were before the move. (ie: 
> > Say you were running at 1GB Full, ensure the backbone runs at 
> > this type of speed or can cope with the capacity).
> > 
> > When performing the backups, what is the behaviour of the
> > Master - does anything seem odd in terms of performance with 
> > the Server itself?
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > Simon Weaver
> > 3rd Line Technical Support
> > Windows Domain Administrator
> > 
> > EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
> > Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
> > 
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Brooks, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 13 July 2006 13:56
> > To: WEAVER, Simon; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> > Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited
> > 
> > 
> > We have the following:
> > 
> > Master - Win2k3 SP1, NBU 6.0MP2
> > Media (1) - Win2K3 SP1, NBU6.0MP2
> > 
> > We backup everything to the media server on their 
> respective subnet to 
> > either SAN disk for DSSU, or some go straight to tape.  Our tape 
> > library is an ADIC Scalar i2K with 2 fibre LTO3s connected 
> to our SAN.
> > Clients go
> > through the LAN to get to the media server and then to disk or tape.
> > 
> > Before our relocation, we were generally getting speeds on
> > disk at about 1-5
> > MB/sec.  I don't know what changes were made to the LAN, but 
> > very little
> > with the clients.  And it's affecting all clients - Windows, 
> > Linux, NDMP.
> > So, maybe I need to talk with our Networking group?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Jason
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> > > Of WEAVER, Simon
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 8:47 AM
> > > To: Brooks, Jason; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> > > Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Can you give any further clearer details as to what your setup is?
> > > What was the speeds BEFORE the move?
> > > 
> > > Is there anything differently configured compared to how it was 
> > > before the move?
> > > 
> > > What about clients - are the clients with slow throughput are SAN 
> > > Clients or LAN ?
> > > 
> > > Regards
> > > 
> > > Simon Weaver
> > > 3rd Line Technical Support
> > > Windows Domain Administrator
> > > 
> > > EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
> > > Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
> > > 
> > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Brooks, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 13 July 2006 13:33
> > > To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> > > Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Okay folks.  I have a sort of shotgun question - it's big and all 
> > > kinds of places/ways to approach, but I need some 
> pointers of where 
> > > to start.
> > > 
> > > In late June, we physically relocated our NBU Master and Media 
> > > servers. Their fibre was reconnected to the SAN, and 
> additionally, 
> > > we activated a
> > > policy to do BMR on four Linux servers.  Since that time, 
> > > we've started
> > > receiving backup speeds/throughput at about 19K/sec.  Last 
> > > night, to remove
> > > BMR from the equation, I deactivated the BMR policy a

Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited

[Brooks, Jason]

Paul,
You must be a seer, or highly experience. :-)

What we found was that with the move, all the switch ports were
set to Auto, but my master & media were at 100-Full.  Had a network
engineer correct the port and it's all good!  I will soon look at moving
to auto, since we have Gig cards and a Gig switch.

Thanks to all,
Jason 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
> Of Paul Keating
> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 9:41 AM
> To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited
> 
> Verify that your network ports are configured properly, and 
> that you're running at FULL duplex.
> 
> If you're running GigE, then boths sides should be configured 
> as Auto-Speed/Auto-Duplex, and when you mouse over the little 
> network icons on your system tray, you should get 1000Mb/s-Full.
> 
> If one side is hardcoded and the other side "auto negotiate", 
> your link will most likely come up at 100/Half, which will 
> give almost exactly what you're seeing.
> 
> Get Network to check for CRC errors on your switch ports, and 
> if there are any, the interswitch links.
> Verify that you're not connected to an edge switch that is 
> half duplex to the coresome Cisco Gigastacks interconnect 
> at half-duplex...nothing you can do there but get moved to 
> another switch.
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> > Brooks, Jason
> > Sent: July 13, 2006 8:56 AM
> > To: WEAVER, Simon; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> > Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited
> > 
> > 
> > We have the following:
> > 
> > Master - Win2k3 SP1, NBU 6.0MP2
> > Media (1) - Win2K3 SP1, NBU6.0MP2
> > 
> > We backup everything to the media server on their 
> respective subnet to 
> > either SAN disk for DSSU, or some go straight to tape.  Our tape 
> > library is an ADIC Scalar i2K with 2 fibre LTO3s connected 
> to our SAN.  
> > Clients go through the LAN to get to the media server and 
> then to disk 
> > or tape.
> > 
> > Before our relocation, we were generally getting speeds on disk at 
> > about
> > 1-5 MB/sec.  I don't know what changes were made to the 
> LAN, but very 
> > little with the clients.  And it's affecting all clients - Windows, 
> > Linux, NDMP.  So, maybe I need to talk with our Networking group?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Jason
> 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 & Library Based Tape License

[Jimh]

Title: Message




Thanks, your 
correct.
 
You didn't see my second 
post which immediately followed correcting myself. (it was stuck in my outbox)
 
Here's right out of the 
6.0 p&p guide.(same statement is in the 5.0 and 4.5 
guides.)

NetBackup Library Based Tape 
Drive
NetBackup support for tape drives controlled 
by a robotic library is licensed per tape drive; regardless of the 
manufacturer,
type of device, or number of servers attached 
to the library. There is no charge for stand-alone, non-robotic tape drives 
directly
attached to a NetBackup Master/Media Server or 
NetBackup Server.

  
  -Original Message-From: 
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wright, 
  Mike (IT)Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 3:47 AMTo: Jimh; 
  Wilkinson, Tim; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 
  & Library Based Tape License
  
  Jim,
   
  I think you're getting confused with Backup Exec 
  licensing where more than 1 tape drive per media server requires an additional 
  license. 
   
  NBU Enterprise/Data Centre (which is ALL I've ever seen 
  running across 100s of sites in Europe) allows you to use as many standalone 
  tape drives as you wish. For library based tape drives you need one Library 
  Based Tape Drive license PER TAPE DRIVE. If you are sharing tape drives 
  you need one SSO license PER "physical" TAPE DRIVE.
   
  You are correct that backups to DSU are included in the 
  base license.
   
  Backups to disk are MORE FLEXIBLE than to tape, hence 
  better for slow clients, but very few disk arrays/VTLs will match the speed of 
  more than a handful of LTO3 drives running well into their ATS/streaming speed 
  range (given clients and infrastructure that can deliver continuous data at 
  the required rates).
   
  Hope that helps.
   
  
  Mike 
  Wright
   
  Data 
  Protection Engineering
  20 Cabot 
  Square | 
  Canary Wharf | London W14 4QW
  Tel +44 
  207 6774728 | Mob +44 7921 777992
   
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  JimhSent: 12 July 2006 22:38To: 'Wilkinson, Tim'; 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 
  & Library Based Tape License
  
  One standalone tape license comes with the 
  mediaserver.
  A standalone 
  tape license is the same license as for a Tape Library."Library Based Tape 
  License"
  You can run 
  your backups to disk for free.
  I can argue 
  that disk is better than tape.(though not cheaper yet)
   
  There are a lot 
  of misconfigured configurations do to reseller ignorance(In the past licensing 
  was not strictly enforced)
  Also 
  Symantec/Veritas has not always configured a system 
  correctly.
   
  If you run 
  without a correct license it will catch up with you or your 
  organization.(hopefully you have retired)
   
  Jim
   
  

-Original Message-From: 
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Wilkinson, TimSent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:14 
PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 
& Library Based Tape License

Is it just a licnesing 
thing or does it add any actual value to NBU?


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tue 11/07/2006 11:42 
PMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduCc: Wilkinson, 
TimSubject: RE:NBU 6 & Library Based Tape 
License
Tim, The 
License Key "Library Based Tape License" may not be needed to run NetBackup, 
but it is a legal requirement to be properly licensed for it if you use a 
tape library of any kind.  There may be a different license for stand 
alone tape drives, I am not sure about this.  It is my understanding 
that you need 1 license for every tape drive you want to use. 
>Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 10:52:06 
+1000>From: "Wilkinson, Tim" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 
& Library Based Tape License>To: 
>>Hi,> 
>I've asked a few people about this but never had what I'd call a 
complete answer (I've been quoted from the admin >guide but it's not 
hugely helpful as I've already read this and doesn't answer my question) so 
hopefully someone >knows a bit more about this on this mailing 
list.>We have NBU 6 (Ent) and have a license key for a 'Library Based 
Tape License'. We use robotic tape libraries (SL500 >among others) but 
have never added the LBT license and it all runs fine so the question is 
what is this license >actually required for? Is it perhaps a legacy 
thing?> >Cheers,> >Tim Richard MickleUNIX Systems and Storage 
AdministratorMoore Wallace Response Marketing ServicesAn RR 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 Backup selections browsing

[Ed Wilts]

On Thu, Jul 13, 2006 at 08:24:12AM -0400, Paul Keating wrote:
> a unix host can't natively mount a windows share.(ie NFS vs CIFS) so
> a unix master/media cannot inspect the filesystem of the windows client
> to "browse".

>From the master:

# bpdir -M 

Browse away!

.../Ed

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Sun branded Emulex SG-XPCI2FC-EM2 problems?

[Bob Stump]

There is a potential for data loss. I experienced it.
It is possible for the entire tape to become corrupted.
Thankfully, this was on a new NetBackup installation so I was able to catch up with new full backups.
The fix is a Sun patch 120222-10
 
http://sunsolve.sun.com/search/document.do?assetkey=1-21-120222-10-1
 >>> "Bob Stump" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7/10/2006 11:35 AM >>>

I am experiencing media position errors on a new master/media server using 6.0 MP3. I opened up a support call with symantec and they referred to an internal symantec technote on a known problem. The hardware is Sun branded Emulex SG-XPCI2FC-EM2 on an 890 platform running Solaris 10. They told me to contact Sun for a replacement card.
 
Has anyone experienced this and what did you do to correct it? 
Is there a new driver available or does there need to be hardware replacement?
 
Bob 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited

[WEAVER, Simon]

LOL ok so I made a mistake with a name :-)
Not once... Not twice but 3 times!!

Justin I am sorry :-)

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

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-Original Message-
From: Jeff Lightner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2006 14:51
To: WEAVER, Simon; Brooks, Jason; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited


Are you sure you didn't intend THIS one for "Justin" :-)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WEAVER,
Simon
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 9:29 AM
To: 'Brooks, Jason'; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited


Jason
First things first - Network infrastructure! Something definetely sounds a
little "off" here. Also, ensure all Network related clients are talking at
correct maximum speed, as if they were before the move. (ie: Say you were
running at 1GB Full, ensure the backbone runs at this type of speed or can
cope with the capacity).

When performing the backups, what is the behaviour of the Master - does
anything seem odd in terms of performance with the Server itself?

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: Brooks, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2006 13:56
To: WEAVER, Simon; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited


We have the following:

Master - Win2k3 SP1, NBU 6.0MP2 
Media (1) - Win2K3 SP1, NBU6.0MP2

We backup everything to the media server on their respective subnet to
either SAN disk for DSSU, or some go straight to tape.  Our tape library is
an ADIC Scalar i2K with 2 fibre LTO3s connected to our SAN.  Clients go
through the LAN to get to the media server and then to disk or tape.

Before our relocation, we were generally getting speeds on disk at about 1-5
MB/sec.  I don't know what changes were made to the LAN, but very little
with the clients.  And it's affecting all clients - Windows, Linux, NDMP.
So, maybe I need to talk with our Networking group?

Thanks,
Jason

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of WEAVER, Simon
> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 8:47 AM
> To: Brooks, Jason; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited
> 
> 
> Can you give any further clearer details as to what your setup is?
> What was the speeds BEFORE the move?
> 
> Is there anything differently configured compared to how it was before 
> the move?
> 
> What about clients - are the clients with slow throughput are SAN 
> Clients or LAN ?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Simon Weaver
> 3rd Line Technical Support
> Windows Domain Administrator
> 
> EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
> Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
> 
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Brooks, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 13 July 2006 13:33
> To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited
> 
> 
> Okay folks.  I have a sort of shotgun question - it's big and all 
> kinds of places/ways to approach, but I need some pointers of where to 
> start.
> 
> In late June, we physically relocated our NBU Master and Media 
> servers. Their fibre was reconnected to the SAN, and additionally, we
> activated a
> policy to do BMR on four Linux servers.  Since that time, 
> we've started
> receiving backup speeds/throughput at about 19K/sec.  Last 
> night, to remove
> BMR from the equation, I deactivated the BMR policy and had 
> the clients
> backing up normally.  Still, 19K/sec.
> 
> So, does anyone have any suggestions of where to start looking?  Most 
> of my failures are 196s because the backups take so long.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jason
> 
> 
> Jason Brooks
> Computer Systems Engineer
> IITS - Longwood University
> voice - (434) 395-2916
> fax - (434) 395-2035
> mailto:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited

[WEAVER, Simon]

Jason
No worries - Also, do you have a lot of Windows clients? 

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

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-Original Message-
From: Brooks, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2006 14:44
To: WEAVER, Simon; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited


Simon,
Thanks.  I've confirmed with our Networking group, and it does seem
that something was misconfigured, or missed.  I'm waiting for a test job to
run and see if the speeds are any better.  Lately, this one has ran at
18K/sec.  We'll see.  I'll let the list know what I find, to either 'close'
the issue or offer more info.

As for the Master/Media servers, nothing odd outside of needing an
occasional reboot to refresh.

Thanks,
Jason 

> -Original Message-
> From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 9:29 AM
> To: Brooks, Jason; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited
> 
> 
> Jason
> First things first - Network infrastructure! Something
> definetely sounds a little "off" here.
> Also, ensure all Network related clients are talking at 
> correct maximum speed, as if they were before the move. (ie: 
> Say you were running at 1GB Full, ensure the backbone runs at 
> this type of speed or can cope with the capacity).
> 
> When performing the backups, what is the behaviour of the
> Master - does anything seem odd in terms of performance with 
> the Server itself?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Simon Weaver
> 3rd Line Technical Support
> Windows Domain Administrator
> 
> EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
> Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
> 
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Brooks, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 13 July 2006 13:56
> To: WEAVER, Simon; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited
> 
> 
> We have the following:
> 
> Master - Win2k3 SP1, NBU 6.0MP2
> Media (1) - Win2K3 SP1, NBU6.0MP2
> 
> We backup everything to the media server on their respective subnet to 
> either SAN disk for DSSU, or some go straight to tape.  Our tape 
> library is an ADIC Scalar i2K with 2 fibre LTO3s connected to our SAN.
> Clients go
> through the LAN to get to the media server and then to disk or tape.
> 
> Before our relocation, we were generally getting speeds on
> disk at about 1-5
> MB/sec.  I don't know what changes were made to the LAN, but 
> very little
> with the clients.  And it's affecting all clients - Windows, 
> Linux, NDMP.
> So, maybe I need to talk with our Networking group?
> 
> Thanks,
> Jason
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> > Of WEAVER, Simon
> > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 8:47 AM
> > To: Brooks, Jason; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> > Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited
> > 
> > 
> > Can you give any further clearer details as to what your setup is?
> > What was the speeds BEFORE the move?
> > 
> > Is there anything differently configured compared to how it was 
> > before the move?
> > 
> > What about clients - are the clients with slow throughput are SAN 
> > Clients or LAN ?
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > Simon Weaver
> > 3rd Line Technical Support
> > Windows Domain Administrator
> > 
> > EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
> > Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
> > 
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Brooks, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 13 July 2006 13:33
> > To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> > Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited
> > 
> > 
> > Okay folks.  I have a sort of shotgun question - it's big and all 
> > kinds of places/ways to approach, but I need some pointers of where 
> > to start.
> > 
> > In late June, we physically relocated our NBU Master and Media 
> > servers. Their fibre was reconnected to the SAN, and additionally, 
> > we activated a
> > policy to do BMR on four Linux servers.  Since that time, 
> > we've started
> > receiving backup speeds/throughput at about 19K/sec.  Last 
> > night, to remove
> > BMR from the equation, I deactivated the BMR policy and had 
> > the clients
> > backing up normally.  Still, 19K/sec.
> > 
> > So, does anyone have any suggestions of where to start looking?  
> > Most of my failures are 196s because the backups take so long.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Jason
> > 
> > 
> > Jason Brooks
> > Computer Systems Engineer
> > IITS - Longwood University
> > voice - (434) 395-2916
> > fax - (434) 395-2035
> > mailto:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited

[Jeff Lightner]

Are you sure you didn't intend THIS one for "Justin" :-)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WEAVER,
Simon
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 9:29 AM
To: 'Brooks, Jason'; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited


Jason
First things first - Network infrastructure! Something definetely sounds
a
little "off" here.
Also, ensure all Network related clients are talking at correct maximum
speed, as if they were before the move. (ie: Say you were running at 1GB
Full, ensure the backbone runs at this type of speed or can cope with
the
capacity).

When performing the backups, what is the behaviour of the Master - does
anything seem odd in terms of performance with the Server itself?

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: Brooks, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2006 13:56
To: WEAVER, Simon; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited


We have the following:

Master - Win2k3 SP1, NBU 6.0MP2 
Media (1) - Win2K3 SP1, NBU6.0MP2

We backup everything to the media server on their respective subnet to
either SAN disk for DSSU, or some go straight to tape.  Our tape library
is
an ADIC Scalar i2K with 2 fibre LTO3s connected to our SAN.  Clients go
through the LAN to get to the media server and then to disk or tape.

Before our relocation, we were generally getting speeds on disk at about
1-5
MB/sec.  I don't know what changes were made to the LAN, but very little
with the clients.  And it's affecting all clients - Windows, Linux,
NDMP.
So, maybe I need to talk with our Networking group?

Thanks,
Jason

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
> Of WEAVER, Simon
> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 8:47 AM
> To: Brooks, Jason; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited
> 
> 
> Can you give any further clearer details as to what your setup is? 
> What was the speeds BEFORE the move?
> 
> Is there anything differently configured compared to how it
> was before the move?
> 
> What about clients - are the clients with slow throughput are
> SAN Clients or LAN ?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Simon Weaver
> 3rd Line Technical Support
> Windows Domain Administrator
> 
> EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
> Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
> 
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Brooks, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 13 July 2006 13:33
> To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited
> 
> 
> Okay folks.  I have a sort of shotgun question - it's big and
> all kinds of
> places/ways to approach, but I need some pointers of where to start.
> 
> In late June, we physically relocated our NBU Master and
> Media servers.
> Their fibre was reconnected to the SAN, and additionally, we 
> activated a
> policy to do BMR on four Linux servers.  Since that time, 
> we've started
> receiving backup speeds/throughput at about 19K/sec.  Last 
> night, to remove
> BMR from the equation, I deactivated the BMR policy and had 
> the clients
> backing up normally.  Still, 19K/sec.
> 
> So, does anyone have any suggestions of where to start
> looking?  Most of my
> failures are 196s because the backups take so long.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jason
> 
> 
> Jason Brooks
> Computer Systems Engineer
> IITS - Longwood University
> voice - (434) 395-2916
> fax - (434) 395-2035
> mailto:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited

[Paul Keating]

Verify that your network ports are configured properly, and that you're
running at FULL duplex.

If you're running GigE, then boths sides should be configured as
Auto-Speed/Auto-Duplex, and when you mouse over the little network icons
on your system tray, you should get 1000Mb/s-Full.

If one side is hardcoded and the other side "auto negotiate", your link
will most likely come up at 100/Half, which will give almost exactly
what you're seeing.

Get Network to check for CRC errors on your switch ports, and if there
are any, the interswitch links.
Verify that you're not connected to an edge switch that is half duplex
to the coresome Cisco Gigastacks interconnect at
half-duplex...nothing you can do there but get moved to another switch.

Paul





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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
> Of Brooks, Jason
> Sent: July 13, 2006 8:56 AM
> To: WEAVER, Simon; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited
> 
> 
> We have the following:
> 
> Master - Win2k3 SP1, NBU 6.0MP2 
> Media (1) - Win2K3 SP1, NBU6.0MP2
> 
> We backup everything to the media server on their respective subnet to
> either SAN disk for DSSU, or some go straight to tape.  Our 
> tape library
> is an ADIC Scalar i2K with 2 fibre LTO3s connected to our 
> SAN.  Clients
> go through the LAN to get to the media server and then to 
> disk or tape.
> 
> Before our relocation, we were generally getting speeds on 
> disk at about
> 1-5 MB/sec.  I don't know what changes were made to the LAN, but very
> little with the clients.  And it's affecting all clients - Windows,
> Linux, NDMP.  So, maybe I need to talk with our Networking group?
> 
> Thanks,
> Jason

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited

[Brooks, Jason]

Simon,
Thanks.  I've confirmed with our Networking group, and it does
seem that something was misconfigured, or missed.  I'm waiting for a
test job to run and see if the speeds are any better.  Lately, this one
has ran at 18K/sec.  We'll see.  I'll let the list know what I find, to
either 'close' the issue or offer more info.

As for the Master/Media servers, nothing odd outside of needing
an occasional reboot to refresh.

Thanks,
Jason 

> -Original Message-
> From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 9:29 AM
> To: Brooks, Jason; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited
> 
> 
> Jason
> First things first - Network infrastructure! Something 
> definetely sounds a little "off" here.
> Also, ensure all Network related clients are talking at 
> correct maximum speed, as if they were before the move. (ie: 
> Say you were running at 1GB Full, ensure the backbone runs at 
> this type of speed or can cope with the capacity).
> 
> When performing the backups, what is the behaviour of the 
> Master - does anything seem odd in terms of performance with 
> the Server itself?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Simon Weaver
> 3rd Line Technical Support
> Windows Domain Administrator 
> 
> EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
> Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
> 
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Brooks, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 13 July 2006 13:56
> To: WEAVER, Simon; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited
> 
> 
> We have the following:
> 
> Master - Win2k3 SP1, NBU 6.0MP2 
> Media (1) - Win2K3 SP1, NBU6.0MP2
> 
> We backup everything to the media server on their respective subnet to
> either SAN disk for DSSU, or some go straight to tape.  Our 
> tape library is
> an ADIC Scalar i2K with 2 fibre LTO3s connected to our SAN.  
> Clients go
> through the LAN to get to the media server and then to disk or tape.
> 
> Before our relocation, we were generally getting speeds on 
> disk at about 1-5
> MB/sec.  I don't know what changes were made to the LAN, but 
> very little
> with the clients.  And it's affecting all clients - Windows, 
> Linux, NDMP.
> So, maybe I need to talk with our Networking group?
> 
> Thanks,
> Jason
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
> > Of WEAVER, Simon
> > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 8:47 AM
> > To: Brooks, Jason; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> > Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited
> > 
> > 
> > Can you give any further clearer details as to what your setup is? 
> > What was the speeds BEFORE the move?
> > 
> > Is there anything differently configured compared to how it
> > was before the move?
> > 
> > What about clients - are the clients with slow throughput are
> > SAN Clients or LAN ?
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > Simon Weaver
> > 3rd Line Technical Support
> > Windows Domain Administrator
> > 
> > EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
> > Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
> > 
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
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> > -Original Message-
> > From: Brooks, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> > Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited
> > 
> > 
> > Okay folks.  I have a sort of shotgun question - it's big and
> > all kinds of
> > places/ways to approach, but I need some pointers of where to start.
> > 
> > In late June, we physically relocated our NBU Master and
> > Media servers.
> > Their fibre was reconnected to the SAN, and additionally, we 
> > activated a
> > policy to do BMR on four Linux servers.  Since that time, 
> > we've started
> > receiving backup speeds/throughput at about 19K/sec.  Last 
> > night, to remove
> > BMR from the equation, I deactivated the BMR policy and had 
> > the clients
> > backing up normally.  Still, 19K/sec.
> > 
> > So, does anyone have any suggestions of where to start
> > looking?  Most of my
> > failures are 196s because the backups take so long.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Jason
> > 
> > 
> > Jason Brooks
> > Computer Systems Engineer
> > IITS - Longwood University
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> > fax - (434) 395-2035
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited

[WEAVER, Simon]

Jason
First things first - Network infrastructure! Something definetely sounds a
little "off" here.
Also, ensure all Network related clients are talking at correct maximum
speed, as if they were before the move. (ie: Say you were running at 1GB
Full, ensure the backbone runs at this type of speed or can cope with the
capacity).

When performing the backups, what is the behaviour of the Master - does
anything seem odd in terms of performance with the Server itself?

Regards

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3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
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-Original Message-
From: Brooks, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2006 13:56
To: WEAVER, Simon; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited


We have the following:

Master - Win2k3 SP1, NBU 6.0MP2 
Media (1) - Win2K3 SP1, NBU6.0MP2

We backup everything to the media server on their respective subnet to
either SAN disk for DSSU, or some go straight to tape.  Our tape library is
an ADIC Scalar i2K with 2 fibre LTO3s connected to our SAN.  Clients go
through the LAN to get to the media server and then to disk or tape.

Before our relocation, we were generally getting speeds on disk at about 1-5
MB/sec.  I don't know what changes were made to the LAN, but very little
with the clients.  And it's affecting all clients - Windows, Linux, NDMP.
So, maybe I need to talk with our Networking group?

Thanks,
Jason

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
> Of WEAVER, Simon
> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 8:47 AM
> To: Brooks, Jason; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited
> 
> 
> Can you give any further clearer details as to what your setup is? 
> What was the speeds BEFORE the move?
> 
> Is there anything differently configured compared to how it
> was before the move?
> 
> What about clients - are the clients with slow throughput are
> SAN Clients or LAN ?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Simon Weaver
> 3rd Line Technical Support
> Windows Domain Administrator
> 
> EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
> Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
> 
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Brooks, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 13 July 2006 13:33
> To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited
> 
> 
> Okay folks.  I have a sort of shotgun question - it's big and
> all kinds of
> places/ways to approach, but I need some pointers of where to start.
> 
> In late June, we physically relocated our NBU Master and
> Media servers.
> Their fibre was reconnected to the SAN, and additionally, we 
> activated a
> policy to do BMR on four Linux servers.  Since that time, 
> we've started
> receiving backup speeds/throughput at about 19K/sec.  Last 
> night, to remove
> BMR from the equation, I deactivated the BMR policy and had 
> the clients
> backing up normally.  Still, 19K/sec.
> 
> So, does anyone have any suggestions of where to start
> looking?  Most of my
> failures are 196s because the backups take so long.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jason
> 
> 
> Jason Brooks
> Computer Systems Engineer
> IITS - Longwood University
> voice - (434) 395-2916
> fax - (434) 395-2035
> mailto:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited

[Brooks, Jason]

We have the following:

Master - Win2k3 SP1, NBU 6.0MP2 
Media (1) - Win2K3 SP1, NBU6.0MP2

We backup everything to the media server on their respective subnet to
either SAN disk for DSSU, or some go straight to tape.  Our tape library
is an ADIC Scalar i2K with 2 fibre LTO3s connected to our SAN.  Clients
go through the LAN to get to the media server and then to disk or tape.

Before our relocation, we were generally getting speeds on disk at about
1-5 MB/sec.  I don't know what changes were made to the LAN, but very
little with the clients.  And it's affecting all clients - Windows,
Linux, NDMP.  So, maybe I need to talk with our Networking group?

Thanks,
Jason

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
> Of WEAVER, Simon
> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 8:47 AM
> To: Brooks, Jason; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited
> 
> 
> Can you give any further clearer details as to what your setup is?
> What was the speeds BEFORE the move?
> 
> Is there anything differently configured compared to how it 
> was before the move?
> 
> What about clients - are the clients with slow throughput are 
> SAN Clients or LAN ?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Simon Weaver
> 3rd Line Technical Support
> Windows Domain Administrator 
> 
> EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
> Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
> 
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Brooks, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 13 July 2006 13:33
> To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited
> 
> 
> Okay folks.  I have a sort of shotgun question - it's big and 
> all kinds of
> places/ways to approach, but I need some pointers of where to start.
> 
> In late June, we physically relocated our NBU Master and 
> Media servers.
> Their fibre was reconnected to the SAN, and additionally, we 
> activated a
> policy to do BMR on four Linux servers.  Since that time, 
> we've started
> receiving backup speeds/throughput at about 19K/sec.  Last 
> night, to remove
> BMR from the equation, I deactivated the BMR policy and had 
> the clients
> backing up normally.  Still, 19K/sec.
> 
> So, does anyone have any suggestions of where to start 
> looking?  Most of my
> failures are 196s because the backups take so long.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jason
> 
> 
> Jason Brooks
> Computer Systems Engineer
> IITS - Longwood University
> voice - (434) 395-2916
> fax - (434) 395-2035
> mailto:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited

[WEAVER, Simon]

Can you give any further clearer details as to what your setup is?
What was the speeds BEFORE the move?

Is there anything differently configured compared to how it was before the
move?

What about clients - are the clients with slow throughput are SAN Clients or
LAN ?

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

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-Original Message-
From: Brooks, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2006 13:33
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited


Okay folks.  I have a sort of shotgun question - it's big and all kinds of
places/ways to approach, but I need some pointers of where to start.

In late June, we physically relocated our NBU Master and Media servers.
Their fibre was reconnected to the SAN, and additionally, we activated a
policy to do BMR on four Linux servers.  Since that time, we've started
receiving backup speeds/throughput at about 19K/sec.  Last night, to remove
BMR from the equation, I deactivated the BMR policy and had the clients
backing up normally.  Still, 19K/sec.

So, does anyone have any suggestions of where to start looking?  Most of my
failures are 196s because the backups take so long.

Thanks,
Jason


Jason Brooks
Computer Systems Engineer
IITS - Longwood University
voice - (434) 395-2916
fax - (434) 395-2035
mailto:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

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[Veritas-bu] Backup Speeds Revisited

[Brooks, Jason]

Okay folks.  I have a sort of shotgun question - it's big and all kinds
of places/ways to approach, but I need some pointers of where to start.

In late June, we physically relocated our NBU Master and Media servers.
Their fibre was reconnected to the SAN, and additionally, we activated a
policy to do BMR on four Linux servers.  Since that time, we've started
receiving backup speeds/throughput at about 19K/sec.  Last night, to
remove BMR from the equation, I deactivated the BMR policy and had the
clients backing up normally.  Still, 19K/sec.

So, does anyone have any suggestions of where to start looking?  Most of
my failures are 196s because the backups take so long.

Thanks,
Jason


Jason Brooks
Computer Systems Engineer
IITS - Longwood University
voice - (434) 395-2916
fax - (434) 395-2035
mailto:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 Backup selections browsing

[Paul Keating]

Title: Message



been 
like that as long as I can remember.
 
a unix 
host can't natively mount a windows share.(ie NFS vs CIFS) so a unix 
master/media cannot inspect the filesystem of the windows client to 
"browse".
 
Paul
 
 
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Wilkinson, TimSent: July 12, 2006 11:30 PMTo: 
  Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 Backup 
  selections browsing
  Hi,
   
  We've found some differing behaviour in regards 
  to browsing backup selections using NBU6; A Windows Master appears to be able 
  to browse Unix\Linux files systems on clients, whereas a Unix Master does not 
  appear to be able to browse Windows (the path has to be entered 
  manually).
  Is this as expected? Does anyone know 
  why?
  I'd guess it has something to do with the GUI; on 
  Unix (java GUI), there is no button to browse, and although a remote admin 
  console in Windows (connecting to Unix Master) has a browse button, it isn't 
  actually an active operation on the Unix Master (or something like 
  that).
   
  Cheers,
   
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Re: [Veritas-bu] 6.0 Upgrade Checklist

[WEAVER, Simon]

~Ed
Well that's not strictly correct - what you could do is perform a
"migration" to 6.0 rather than an upgrade :-)

1) Implement new NBU Server
2) upgrade old NBU Clients to latest version and ensure they can communicate
with your new Master
3) Configure with your existing hardware tape robotic library
4) Attempt backups.

I was fortunate enough to migrate 3.4 to 5.1 as the 3.4 master used a very
old robot and 5.1 used LTO HP ESL Library.

Its another option - Upgrade may be a problem, especially if there are
issues with the DB (I think I may have mentioned this!)

Regards

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Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
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Sent: 13 July 2006 12:54
To: WEAVER, Simon
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] 6.0 Upgrade Checklist


On Thu, Jul 13, 2006 at 08:23:47AM +0100, WEAVER, Simon wrote:
> Steve
> There is a Veritas Installation Guide (PDF) that is well worth a read. 
> It is not long, and gives some good clear breakdowns as to how to 
> upgrade or move or install a clean version of 6.0
>  
> >From my perspective (and being a Win2k3 setup) my checklist would be
>  
> 1) Ensure FULL compatability with current setup

One thing we noticed was that 3.4 clients now fail with 6.  We had a few old
NT4 systems still running 3.4 that never got upgraded.  They should be
upgraded before you upgrade if you have any still out there.

> As for MP. dodgy one really - MP3 is (I think the latest) readily 
> available, however concerns about bugs and being a bit unreliable 
> makes me wonder what is the best MP to use.

MP3 is better than the previous MPs. However, that doesn't mean it's good
enough yet.

> If you have a veritas support agreement, go with MP3

If you don't, don't even think about going to 6!

.../Ed

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Re: [Veritas-bu] 6.0 Upgrade Checklist

[Ed Wilts]

On Thu, Jul 13, 2006 at 08:23:47AM +0100, WEAVER, Simon wrote:
> Steve
> There is a Veritas Installation Guide (PDF) that is well worth a read. It is
> not long, and gives some good clear breakdowns as to how to upgrade or move
> or install a clean version of 6.0
>  
> >From my perspective (and being a Win2k3 setup) my checklist would be
>  
> 1) Ensure FULL compatability with current setup

One thing we noticed was that 3.4 clients now fail with 6.  We had a few
old NT4 systems still running 3.4 that never got upgraded.  They should
be upgraded before you upgrade if you have any still out there.

> As for MP. dodgy one really - MP3 is (I think the latest) readily
> available, however concerns about bugs and being a bit unreliable makes me
> wonder what is the best MP to use.

MP3 is better than the previous MPs. However, that doesn't mean it's
good enough yet.

> If you have a veritas support agreement, go with MP3

If you don't, don't even think about going to 6!

.../Ed

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 & Library Based Tape License

[Wright, Mike \(IT\)]

Title: Message




Jim,
 
I think you're getting confused with Backup Exec licensing 
where more than 1 tape drive per media server requires an additional license. 

 
NBU Enterprise/Data Centre (which is ALL I've ever seen 
running across 100s of sites in Europe) allows you to use as many standalone 
tape drives as you wish. For library based tape drives you need one Library 
Based Tape Drive license PER TAPE DRIVE. If you are sharing tape drives you 
need one SSO license PER "physical" TAPE DRIVE.
 
You are correct that backups to DSU are included in the 
base license.
 
Backups to disk are MORE FLEXIBLE than to tape, hence 
better for slow clients, but very few disk arrays/VTLs will match the speed of 
more than a handful of LTO3 drives running well into their ATS/streaming speed 
range (given clients and infrastructure that can deliver continuous data at the 
required rates).
 
Hope that helps.
 

Mike 
Wright
 
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Protection Engineering
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JimhSent: 12 July 2006 22:38To: 'Wilkinson, Tim'; 
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veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 
& Library Based Tape License

One standalone tape license comes with the 
mediaserver.
A standalone tape 
license is the same license as for a Tape Library."Library Based Tape License"
You can run your 
backups to disk for free.
I can argue that 
disk is better than tape.(though not cheaper yet)
 
There are a lot 
of misconfigured configurations do to reseller ignorance(In the past licensing 
was not strictly enforced)
Also 
Symantec/Veritas has not always configured a system 
correctly.
 
If you run 
without a correct license it will catch up with you or your 
organization.(hopefully you have retired)
 
Jim
 

  
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  & Library Based Tape License
  
  Is it just a licnesing 
  thing or does it add any actual value to NBU?
  
  
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  TimSubject: RE:NBU 6 & Library Based Tape 
  License
  Tim, The 
  License Key "Library Based Tape License" may not be needed to run NetBackup, 
  but it is a legal requirement to be properly licensed for it if you use a tape 
  library of any kind.  There may be a different license for stand alone 
  tape drives, I am not sure about this.  It is my understanding that you 
  need 1 license for every tape drive you want to use. >Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 10:52:06 +1000>From: 
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  [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 & Library Based Tape License>To: 
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  complete answer (I've been quoted from the admin >guide but it's not hugely 
  helpful as I've already read this and doesn't answer my question) so hopefully 
  someone >knows a bit more about this on this mailing list.>We have 
  NBU 6 (Ent) and have a license key for a 'Library Based Tape License'. We use 
  robotic tape libraries (SL500 >among others) but have never added the LBT 
  license and it all runs fine so the question is what is this license 
  >actually required for? Is it perhaps a legacy thing?> 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] 6.0 Upgrade Checklist

[bob944]

> Looking to take the plunge to 6.0, we need to for SPS2003 
> backups.  I am looking for a checklist for the upgrade
> process.  We are a Windows shop, I have a 2003 Master,
> 1 x Win2k3 Media server and 4 x Win2k SAN media servers
> that I need to upgrade.  All servers are at 5.1 MP4.
> 
> The 6.0 installation guides are a pain to navigate, and try to
> put a process together, I do not want to re-invent the wheel
> and just looking to see if anyone out there has developed a
> checklist, to guide through the upgrade.

Customers (those with support, at least) have been recommended to open a
case with support before upgrading 5.x to 6.  a) case is already open if
you have a problem, b) support has their own checklist to make sure
nothing gets missed and c) they will want to help you check and clean up
database consistency issues while you're still at 5.x.

> Additionally, there is a lot of thrash about MP's out there, 
> wondering if I should go to 6.0 MP3, or is there a better
> place to be at, i.e. MP2, or MP1?

Since MPs include previous fixes, there would have to be a mondo bug in
the latest MP to make me want to use an earlier one.  You can also go to
the Software and Security Alerts page (off of Software Updates and
Downloads) and select any release/MP as a rough gauge.


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Roll back to previous MP

[WEAVER, Simon]

LOL sorry I meant Justin :-)

The Add / Remove - part of Windows Clients (Or Windoze as Paul refers to
it!!) 

Thanks Justin

Regards

Simon Weaver
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Windows Domain Administrator 

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-Original Message-
From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2006 09:08
To: WEAVER, Simon
Cc: Dustin D'Amour; Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Roll back to previous MP


Jason? :)

It might, I have not tried it..  Or perhaps Add/Remove programs -> and do 
it that way?

On Thu, 13 Jul 2006, WEAVER, Simon wrote:

>
> Excellent Jason - I will retain this even though I don't know unix! I 
> assume this method would work on other Unix platforms?
>
> Regards
>
> Simon Weaver
> 3rd Line Technical Support
> Windows Domain Administrator
>
> EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
> Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
>
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 12 July 2006 17:36
> To: Dustin D'Amour
> Cc: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Roll back to previous MP
>
>
> Make sure you uninstall all of the related 51 patches, not just the 
> CLT ones.
>
> Justin.
>
> On Wed, 12 Jul 2006, Dustin D'Amour wrote:
>
>> Justin,
>>
>> Thanks for the step by step on the roll back procedure.
>>
>> Dustin D'Amour
>> Coyote Solutions Group
>> 505.742.0066
>> www.coyotesolutions.com
>>
>> "Relax...it's just an update for the patch to fix the nerf that 
>> nerfed the fix for the update of the patch that broke the fix that 
>> was fixed."
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:00 AM
>> To: Dustin D'Amour
>> Cc: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
>> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Roll back to previous MP
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 12 Jul 2006, Dustin D'Amour wrote:
>>
>>> How do I roll back to a previous maintenance pack?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We figured out what our problem was with the Staging not showing up 
>>> in the GUI.  Symantec gave us an old Data Center 3.4 license key 
>>> instead
>> of
>>> a NetBackup version 6.0 key.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dustin D'Amour
>>>
>>> Coyote Solutions Group
>>>
>>> 505.742.0066
>>>
>>> www.coyotesolutions.com 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Relax...it's just an update for the patch to fix the nerf that 
>>> nerfed the fix for the update of the patch that broke the fix that 
>>> was
>> fixed."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Like so:
>>
>> master% cd /usr/openv
>> master% ls
>> bin  java  local  man  NB-Java.install  netbackup  share tmp  volmgr
>> db   lib   logs   msg  NB-Java.tar.Zpack   software  var
>> master% cd pack
>> master% ls
>> NB_51_1_M  NB_DMP_51_1_M  NB_JAV_51_3_M  NB_VLT_51_1_M  pack.summary
>> NB_CLT_51_1_M  NB_JAV_51_1_M  NB_ORA_51_1_M  pack.history master% cd 
>> NB_CLT_51_1_M master% ls save
>> master% cd save
>> master% ls
>> pre_NB_CLT_51_1_M.110504_201835.tar  VrtsNB_CLT_51_1_M.README
>> VrtsNB_CLT_51_1_M.postuninstall  Vrts_pack.uninstall
>> master% ./Vrts_pack.uninstall
>>
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Roll back to previous MP

[Justin Piszcz]

Jason? :)

It might, I have not tried it..  Or perhaps Add/Remove programs -> and do 
it that way?

On Thu, 13 Jul 2006, WEAVER, Simon wrote:

>
> Excellent Jason - I will retain this even though I don't know unix!
> I assume this method would work on other Unix platforms?
>
> Regards
>
> Simon Weaver
> 3rd Line Technical Support
> Windows Domain Administrator
>
> EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
> Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
>
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 12 July 2006 17:36
> To: Dustin D'Amour
> Cc: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Roll back to previous MP
>
>
> Make sure you uninstall all of the related 51 patches, not just the CLT
> ones.
>
> Justin.
>
> On Wed, 12 Jul 2006, Dustin D'Amour wrote:
>
>> Justin,
>>
>> Thanks for the step by step on the roll back procedure.
>>
>> Dustin D'Amour
>> Coyote Solutions Group
>> 505.742.0066
>> www.coyotesolutions.com
>>
>> "Relax...it's just an update for the patch to fix the nerf that nerfed
>> the fix for the update of the patch that broke the fix that was
>> fixed."
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:00 AM
>> To: Dustin D'Amour
>> Cc: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
>> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Roll back to previous MP
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 12 Jul 2006, Dustin D'Amour wrote:
>>
>>> How do I roll back to a previous maintenance pack?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We figured out what our problem was with the Staging not showing up
>>> in the GUI.  Symantec gave us an old Data Center 3.4 license key
>>> instead
>> of
>>> a NetBackup version 6.0 key.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dustin D'Amour
>>>
>>> Coyote Solutions Group
>>>
>>> 505.742.0066
>>>
>>> www.coyotesolutions.com 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Relax...it's just an update for the patch to fix the nerf that
>>> nerfed the fix for the update of the patch that broke the fix that
>>> was
>> fixed."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Like so:
>>
>> master% cd /usr/openv
>> master% ls
>> bin  java  local  man  NB-Java.install  netbackup  share tmp  volmgr
>> db   lib   logs   msg  NB-Java.tar.Zpack   software  var
>> master% cd pack
>> master% ls
>> NB_51_1_M  NB_DMP_51_1_M  NB_JAV_51_3_M  NB_VLT_51_1_M  pack.summary
>> NB_CLT_51_1_M  NB_JAV_51_1_M  NB_ORA_51_1_M  pack.history master% cd
>> NB_CLT_51_1_M master% ls
>> save
>> master% cd save
>> master% ls
>> pre_NB_CLT_51_1_M.110504_201835.tar  VrtsNB_CLT_51_1_M.README
>> VrtsNB_CLT_51_1_M.postuninstall  Vrts_pack.uninstall
>> master% ./Vrts_pack.uninstall
>>
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Re: [Veritas-bu] 6.0 Upgrade Checklist

[WEAVER, Simon]

Title: Message



Steve
There is a Veritas Installation Guide (PDF) that is well worth a
read. It is not long, and gives some good clear breakdowns as to how to upgrade
or move or install a clean version of 6.0
 
From my perspective (and being a Win2k3 setup) my checklist would
be
 
1) Ensure FULL compatability with current
setup
2) Verify your Master / Media Servers Databases are all
ok
3) Perform a CLEAN Catalog Backup and remove from the
Robot
4) Ensure sufficient disk space
available
5) SAN NBU 5.1 can CO-EXIST with 6 - therefore you dont need to
upgrade them straight away :-) Although its worth doing the whole lot in my
view
6) Ensure Server is well specced to cope with the upgrade (RAM,
Processer)
 
As for MP. dodgy one really - MP3 is (I think the latest)
readily available, however concerns about bugs and being a bit unreliable makes
me wonder what is the best MP to use.
 
If you have a veritas support agreement, go with
MP3
 
Most issues I have seen all seem to relate with using the
BMPUSHDATA command - if the Database is not consistent or has issues, the
upgrade may fail - to which you either have to troubleshoot it (like Justin did
on his Unix Server) or revert back to your current
setup.
 
In my own PERSONAL experience, please please please setup a TEST
LAB, and check if everything is ok - where possible, install your current NBU on
a test server, then attempt an upgrade and see what
happens!
 
Hope this is of some help!
 
 
Regards
Simon Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows
Domain Administrator 
EADS Astrium
Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3
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  All,
   
  Looking to take the plunge to 6.0,
  we need to for SPS2003 backups.  I am looking for a checklist for the
  upgrade process.  We are a Windows shop, I have a 2003 Master, 1 x Win2k3
  Media server and 4 x Win2k SAN media servers that I need to upgrade.  All
  servers are at 5.1 MP4.
   
  The 6.0 installation guides are a
  pain to navigate, and try to put a process together, I do not want to
  re-invent the wheel and just looking to see if anyone out there has developed
  a checklist, to guide through the upgrade.
   
  Additionally, there is a lot of
  thrash about MP's out there, wondering if I should go to 6.0 MP3, or is there
  a better place to be at, i.e. MP2, or MP1?
   
  All feedback is welcome, and
  thanks in advance.
   
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Roll back to previous MP

[WEAVER, Simon]

Excellent Jason - I will retain this even though I don't know unix!
I assume this method would work on other Unix platforms?

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

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-Original Message-
From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 12 July 2006 17:36
To: Dustin D'Amour
Cc: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Roll back to previous MP


Make sure you uninstall all of the related 51 patches, not just the CLT 
ones.

Justin.

On Wed, 12 Jul 2006, Dustin D'Amour wrote:

> Justin,
>
> Thanks for the step by step on the roll back procedure.
>
> Dustin D'Amour
> Coyote Solutions Group
> 505.742.0066
> www.coyotesolutions.com
>
> "Relax...it's just an update for the patch to fix the nerf that nerfed 
> the fix for the update of the patch that broke the fix that was 
> fixed."
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:00 AM
> To: Dustin D'Amour
> Cc: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Roll back to previous MP
>
>
>
> On Wed, 12 Jul 2006, Dustin D'Amour wrote:
>
>> How do I roll back to a previous maintenance pack?
>>
>>
>>
>> We figured out what our problem was with the Staging not showing up 
>> in the GUI.  Symantec gave us an old Data Center 3.4 license key 
>> instead
> of
>> a NetBackup version 6.0 key.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dustin D'Amour
>>
>> Coyote Solutions Group
>>
>> 505.742.0066
>>
>> www.coyotesolutions.com 
>>
>>
>>
>> "Relax...it's just an update for the patch to fix the nerf that 
>> nerfed the fix for the update of the patch that broke the fix that 
>> was
> fixed."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Like so:
>
> master% cd /usr/openv
> master% ls
> bin  java  local  man  NB-Java.install  netbackup  share tmp  volmgr
> db   lib   logs   msg  NB-Java.tar.Zpack   software  var
> master% cd pack
> master% ls
> NB_51_1_M  NB_DMP_51_1_M  NB_JAV_51_3_M  NB_VLT_51_1_M  pack.summary
> NB_CLT_51_1_M  NB_JAV_51_1_M  NB_ORA_51_1_M  pack.history master% cd 
> NB_CLT_51_1_M master% ls
> save
> master% cd save
> master% ls
> pre_NB_CLT_51_1_M.110504_201835.tar  VrtsNB_CLT_51_1_M.README
> VrtsNB_CLT_51_1_M.postuninstall  Vrts_pack.uninstall
> master% ./Vrts_pack.uninstall
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Roll back to previous MP

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Title: Message



If its Windows, it should have created an uninstall 
option to remove it.
 
If not, I am afraid its either:
 
1) call to Veritas to manually remove 
it
2) Reinstall NBU and recover from last known NBU Catalog Backups 
(assuming they have not been used AFTER the MP was 
applied).
 
 
Regards
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  -Original Message-From: Dustin D'Amour 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 July 2006 
  15:57To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: 
  [Veritas-bu] Roll back to previous MP
  
  How do I roll back to a previous 
  maintenance pack?  
   
  We figured out what our problem 
  was with the Staging not showing up in the GUI.  Symantec gave us an old 
  Data Center 3.4 license key instead of a NetBackup version 6.0 key. 
  
   
  Dustin 
  D'Amour
  Coyote Solutions 
  Group
  505.742.0066
  www.coyotesolutions.com
   
  "Relax...it's just an update for the 
  patch to fix the nerf that nerfed the fix for the update of the patch that 
  broke the fix that was fixed."
   

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