Re: [Veritas-bu] Help importing expired backups

2006-08-02 Thread WEAVER, Simon

Steve
EOF - Oh dear :-( It sounds like a case I had before and basically, its
looking for images on the tapes (from the PHASE1 import) that do not appear
to be there!

Unless something else has recently overwritten images on the tape, or the
tape has expired, or there may be another tape to be imported for phase 1
(but I assume you have all the tapes right?)

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

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-Original Message-
From: Steve Giessler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 01 August 2006 15:54
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Help importing expired backups


Greetings,

I have Veritas Netbackup 3.4.1 running on a Win 2K box. It has a robot 
unit connected directly to it - works fine, but I need to restore some 
files from an expired full backup and am having difficulty. I started by 
importing all of the expired tapes with the Phase 1 import as follows:

bpimport - create_db_info -id Ax

I then looked at the dates and found the tape that contained the first 
part of the image I needed to restore the full backup. I then tried the 
Phase 2 import as follows:

bpimport -id A00011 -backupid host.name.image_1149400138
It begins the Phase 2 import and after a long time of reading the tape, 
it gives the error:

Unexpected EOF reading image, the image information is not complete.

And then something about the import being partially successful.

What should I do now?

I also tried importing from the Administration GUI - import window - it 
gives no errors, but when I go to browse my files to see what I can 
restore - none of the files appear for the date of the full backup that 
I thought I just imported.

I then tried to go to a previous date's full backup (week before) and I 
have the same results (different tape).

Any suggestions?

-- 

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West Virginia University
Eberly College of Arts and Sciences
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Morgantown, WV 26506
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring entire servers (Windows)

2006-08-02 Thread WEAVER, Simon
Title: Message



Tim
Well you can buy the IDR Add-on for NetBackup if you 
want!

Your "meant" to be able to :-)


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  -Original Message-From: Wilkinson, Tim 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 August 2006 
  05:27To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: 
  [Veritas-bu] Restoring entire servers (Windows)
  I'm just reviewing 
  disaster recovery at the moment and have found a paragraph or 2 recommending 
  that all system files and application files are backed up. We generally run 
  A_L_D in our policies 'just in case' but I've been thinking about restoring 
  system and application files and wonder how most people approach this sort of 
  thing.
  We don't use BMR 
  so I figure the best way to restore an entire server is to rebuild the OS, 
  install any applications then restore actual 'data'; I've always considered if 
  you try to restore 'everything' it could get a bit messy and confused if some 
  of it doesn't get restored exactly as it was before. 
  Without using BMR, 
  can you restore the contents of an entire server in Windows (I'm talking the 
  whole show including system files, system_state data, applications and 
  everything)?
  
  Cheers,
  
- 
Tim Wilkinson I.T. Support Officer Science 
Corporate Information Systems Defence 
Science  Technology Organisation Department of Defence 
Tel: (02) 96921484 Fax: (02) 96921562 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  

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Re: [Veritas-bu] ACS error

2006-08-02 Thread Clooney, David
Title: Message



Thanks Simon

Will have to investigate how long they have been 
happening for, in a new contract and trying to clean up.

Seems as though you are leaning to hardware 
?

Going to enable the the ACS logs to get a better 
understanding of what is happening at the time. 

Regards

Dave


From: WEAVER, Simon 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 August 2006 
10:02To: Clooney, David; 
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] ACS 
error

Dave
Have the errors recently been reported on the 
Master?

If a specific start date, any changed to hardware / software on or 
around that date?

Also, depending on the other connections, I would guess check all 
settings to ensure NetBackup can see the devices 
ok.


Regards
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Domain Administrator 
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  -Original Message-From: Clooney, David 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 August 2006 
  10:00To: WEAVER, Simon; 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] ACS 
  error
  Thanks Simon 
  
  The errors are being logged in the messages file on 
  the master server which links to a designated ACS server.
  
  ACS server's messages file reports zilch 
  
  
  Regards
  
  Dave
  
  
  From: WEAVER, Simon 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 August 2006 
  09:56To: Clooney, David; 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] ACS 
  error
  
  David
  First thing is to power it all down, check and re-seat the 
  cables and then try again.
  
  I assume you are seeing the errors on the 
  ACS??
  
  
  Regards
  Simon 
  Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows Domain 
  Administrator 
  EADS Astrium 
  Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 
  5PU
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-Original Message-From: Clooney, David 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 August 2006 
09:49To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: 
[Veritas-bu] ACS error

Hi everyone
We seem to be getting an 
alarming amount of scsi errors, what I'm trying to fathom out is the ACS 
error , sure its a write error but any idea on how to investigate this 
further ?
Thanks in 
advance
Dave
Jul 31 18:17:23 master scsi: [ID 107833 kern.warning] WARNING: 
/[EMAIL PROTECTED],70/SUNW,[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0 (st12):
Jul 31 18:17:23 master Error for Command: write Error Level: Fatal
Jul 31 18:17:23 master scsi: [ID 107833 kern.notice] Requested Block: 
71661 Error Block: 71661
Jul 31 18:17:23 master scsi: [ID 107833 kern.notice] Vendor: STK Serial 
Number:.408
Jul 31 18:17:23 master scsi: [ID 107833 kern.notice] Sense Key: Media 
Error
Jul 31 18:17:23 master scsi: [ID 107833 kern.notice] ASC: 0xc 
(write error), ASCQ: 0x0, FRU: 0x0



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Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring entire servers (Windows)

2006-08-02 Thread Spearman, David
Title: Message



Tim,

Windows is the easiest restore in the entire venue. From scratch, load 
the OS (patched to whatever level your version of NBU requires) and leave it in 
the workgroup mode with a workgroup having the same name as the domain it was 
in.Load the nbu agent, partition the drive, thendo a FULL resore, 
reboot, done. I have actually done this across disimiliar platforms, albeit you 
have to be a bit tricky. In short we will never waste money on windows bmr, it's 
just to easy to do it the old fashioned way. The only caveats 
are
1. 
Domain Comtrollers require a reboot into domain controller restore 
mode
2. 
NB5.1 mp2 had a major bug with w2k3. Just make sure you are higher (or lower) 
than that.

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Wilkinson, TimSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 12:27 
  AMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: 
  [Veritas-bu] Restoring entire servers (Windows)
  I'm just reviewing 
  disaster recovery at the moment and have found a paragraph or 2 recommending 
  that all system files and application files are backed up. We generally run 
  A_L_D in our policies 'just in case' but I've been thinking about restoring 
  system and application files and wonder how most people approach this sort of 
  thing.
  We don't use BMR 
  so I figure the best way to restore an entire server is to rebuild the OS, 
  install any applications then restore actual 'data'; I've always considered if 
  you try to restore 'everything' it could get a bit messy and confused if some 
  of it doesn't get restored exactly as it was before. 
  Without using BMR, 
  can you restore the contents of an entire server in Windows (I'm talking the 
  whole show including system files, system_state data, applications and 
  everything)?
  
  Cheers,
  
- 
Tim Wilkinson I.T. Support Officer Science 
Corporate Information Systems Defence 
Science  Technology Organisation Department of Defence 
Tel: (02) 96921484 Fax: (02) 96921562 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
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Re: [Veritas-bu] ACS error

2006-08-02 Thread ida3248b
Hello David

Have you tried to start the acssi deamon by hand ?

I think there is an appendix in the Media Manager Guide about ACSLS and how 
to troubleshoot the connection to it.

Regards
Michael

On Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:49:05 +0100, Clooney, David wrote
 

 Hi everyone
 We seem to be getting an alarming amount of scsi errors, what I'm trying to 
fathom out is the ACS error , sure its a write error but any idea on how to 
investigate this further ?
 Thanks in advance
 Dave
 Jul 31 18:17:23 master scsi: [ID 107833 kern.warning] 
WARNING: /[EMAIL PROTECTED],70/SUNW,[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED],0/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0 (st12):
 Jul 31 18:17:23 master Error for Command: write Error Level: Fatal
 Jul 31 18:17:23 master scsi: [ID 107833 kern.notice] Requested Block: 71661 
Error Block: 71661
 Jul 31 18:17:23 master scsi: [ID 107833 kern.notice] Vendor: STK Serial 
Number:.408
 Jul 31 18:17:23 master scsi: [ID 107833 kern.notice] Sense Key: Media Error
 Jul 31 18:17:23 master scsi: [ID 107833 kern.notice] ASC: 0xc (write 
error), ASCQ: 0x0, FRU: 0x0

 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring entire servers (Windows)

2006-08-02 Thread WEAVER, Simon
Title: Message



David
What is the bug, as we use MP2 NBU 
5.1

can you provide details on this?

Thanks
Regards
Simon Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows 
Domain Administrator 
EADS Astrium 
Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 
5PU
Email: 
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  -Original Message-From: Spearman, David 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 August 2006 
  11:33To: Wilkinson, Tim; 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] 
  Restoring entire servers (Windows)
  Tim,
  
  Windows is the easiest restore in the entire venue. From scratch, load 
  the OS (patched to whatever level your version of NBU requires) and leave it 
  in the workgroup mode with a workgroup having the same name as the domain it 
  was in.Load the nbu agent, partition the drive, thendo a FULL 
  resore, reboot, done. I have actually done this across disimiliar platforms, 
  albeit you have to be a bit tricky. In short we will never waste money on 
  windows bmr, it's just to easy to do it the old fashioned way. The only 
  caveats are
  1. 
  Domain Comtrollers require a reboot into domain controller restore 
  mode
  2. 
  NB5.1 mp2 had a major bug with w2k3. Just make sure you are higher (or lower) 
  than that.
  

-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Wilkinson, TimSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 12:27 
AMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: 
[Veritas-bu] Restoring entire servers (Windows)
I'm just 
reviewing disaster recovery at the moment and have found a paragraph or 2 
recommending that all system files and application files are backed up. We 
generally run A_L_D in our policies 'just in case' but I've been thinking 
about restoring system and application files and wonder how most people 
approach this sort of thing.
We don't use BMR 
so I figure the best way to restore an entire server is to rebuild the OS, 
install any applications then restore actual 'data'; I've always considered 
if you try to restore 'everything' it could get a bit messy and confused if 
some of it doesn't get restored exactly as it was before. 

Without using 
BMR, can you restore the contents of an entire server in Windows (I'm 
talking the whole show including system files, system_state data, 
applications and everything)?

Cheers,

  - 
  Tim Wilkinson I.T. Support Officer Science 
  Corporate Information Systems Defence 
  Science  Technology Organisation Department of Defence 
  Tel: (02) 96921484 Fax: (02) 96921562 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone using VTL

2006-08-02 Thread briandiven
Title: Message





or Diligent, STK, IBM, Copan 
Systems, etc.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
on behalf of Jim HoralekSent: Tue 8/1/2006 5:23 PMTo: 
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone 
using VTL

Unfortunately no 
one has answered Juan's question.
Any Data Domain, 
Reo, Septon, Falcon Storusers out there?

Jim

  
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  KeatingSent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 12:52 PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone 
  using VTL
  Some 
  VTL products' de-duplication technology is eons beyond compression, with low 
  level pattern matching, etc, etc, enabling upt to 25:1 effective 
  "compression".
  
  VTL 
  allows you to pool disk on a single VTL that can be shared to multiple media 
  servers asvirtual tape drives, whereas DSSU cannot be shared, so you 
  must pre determine how many jobs per storage unit/media serveryou will 
  run in a given night, and allocate the appropriate amount of disk per media 
  server.
  
  if 
  you have an operations group that is accustomed to tape, it maintains the tape 
  paradigm they're familiar with.
  
  VTLs 
  can be clustered, so you can have a second VTL at a second site, replicated 
  over IP, without getting into duplication, vaulting, or any sort of DR copy 
  within the backup app.
  
  other stuff, but I'm outta here for the day, and that's all that on the 
  top of my mind at the moment.
  :o)
  
  Paul
  
  
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using VTL
I guess this begs the question to the audience and the 
people that have put in VTL's ... what problems does a VTL solve that D2D 
can not? 

I think the list so far is:

1. Administration is easier
2. Possibly performance
3. Compression (1/2 the disk of 
D2D)
4. I can use it to stress test a new NBU 
release

Anything 
else?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring entire servers (Windows)

2006-08-02 Thread Shyam Hazari
Check this tech note.

http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/251163.htm
I had to recover a production server after crash few weeks back. What I did was to restore system_state and C: drive at one go. Make sure you have enough space in the C: drive. Otherwise it will not restore all the required files and will cause the system reboot continuously. I have seen this happen before.


-Shyam
On 8/2/06, Spearman, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





Sorry one and All, made a mistake, it was 5.1mp3 that had the problem.My support call is below




I tried restoring a w2k3 server as a test and got an lssas error on 
reboot, with the machine constantly rebooting. After going to your support 
page I ran in to the following document

Document ID: 274353 
http://support.veritas.com/docs/274353


It essentially says contact veritas. So what now?
RESPONSE
David,

As we had discussed, this is a known issue, so there wasn't any configurationmistakes on your end. There is a technote with troubleshooting steps to try and remedy the issue. This isn't a 100% guaranteed fix, as we had discussed regarding the use of the Win2Koption.


http://support.veritas.com/docs/262411

To reiterate what's occurring:

What is happening is that Windows 2003 Shadow Copy Components have changed so that there is a slip in recovering some registry hives. (see the Microsoft link at the bottom of the technote) For us to keep up with these changes, we need to modify our software with new patch releases. The new release for this issue is due out soon, but no concrete date that I can release. In the meantime, I will create an escalations task and will inform you on what I can get from backline, and what they may request from you for additional information.


At any rate it was definately fixed with mp4, for your sake Simon I would test your MP2 or upgradeyour master/media servers to mp4.


dds


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[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 6:56 AMTo: Spearman, David; Wilkinson, Tim; 
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David
What is the bug, as we use MP2 NBU 5.1

can you provide details on this?

Thanks
Regards
Simon Weaver3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 
EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

Email: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-From: Spearman, David [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 August 2006 11:33To: Wilkinson, Tim; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring entire servers (Windows)
Tim,

Windows is the easiest restore in the entire venue. From scratch, load the OS (patched to whatever level your version of NBU requires) and leave it in the workgroup mode with a workgroup having the same name as the domain it was in.Load the nbu agent, partition the drive, thendo a FULL resore, reboot, done. I have actually done this across disimiliar platforms, albeit you have to be a bit tricky. In short we will never waste money on windows bmr, it's just to easy to do it the old fashioned way. The only caveats are

1. Domain Comtrollers require a reboot into domain controller restore mode
2. NB5.1 mp2 had a major bug with w2k3. Just make sure you are higher (or lower) than that.


-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
] On Behalf Of Wilkinson, TimSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 12:27 AMTo: 
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Restoring entire servers (Windows)
I'm just reviewing disaster recovery at the moment and have found a paragraph or 2 recommending that all system files and application files are backed up. We generally run A_L_D in our policies 'just in case' but I've been thinking about restoring system and application files and wonder how most people approach this sort of thing.

We don't use BMR so I figure the best way to restore an entire server is to rebuild the OS, install any applications then restore actual 'data'; I've always considered if you try to restore 'everything' it could get a bit messy and confused if some of it doesn't get restored exactly as it was before. 

Without using BMR, can you restore the contents of an entire server in Windows (I'm talking the whole show including system files, system_state data, applications and everything)?


Cheers,

- Tim Wilkinson I.T. Support Officer
 Science Corporate Information Systems Defence Science  Technology Organisation Department of Defence
 
Tel: (02) 96921484 Fax: (02) 96921562 Email: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 




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Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring entire servers (Windows)

2006-08-02 Thread WEAVER, Simon
Title: Message



I 
heard about this - does anyone know why the restore needs MORE disk space to 
recover the OS ?
Regards
Simon Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows 
Domain Administrator 
EADS Astrium 
Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 
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  -Original Message-From: Shyam Hazari 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 August 2006 13:09To: 
  Spearman, DavidCc: 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] 
  Restoring entire servers (Windows)
  Check this tech note.
  
  http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/251163.htm
  I had to recover a production server after crash few weeks back. What I 
  did was to restore system_state and C: drive at one go. Make sure you have 
  enough space in the C: drive. Otherwise it will not restore all the required 
  files and will cause the system reboot continuously. I have seen this happen 
  before. 
  
  -Shyam
  On 8/2/06, Spearman, 
  David [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote: 
  



  
  Sorry one and All, made a 
  mistake, it was 5.1mp3 that had the problem.My support call is 
  below 
  
  
  
  I tried restoring a w2k3 server as a test and got an lssas 
  error on 
  reboot, with the machine constantly rebooting. After going 
  to your support 
  page I ran in to the following document
  
  Document ID: 274353 
  http://support.veritas.com/docs/274353 
  
  
  It essentially says contact veritas. So what 
  now?
  RESPONSE
  David,
  
  As we had discussed, this is a known 
  issue, so there wasn't any configurationmistakes on your end. There 
  is a technote with troubleshooting steps to try and remedy the 
  issue. This isn't a 100% guaranteed fix, as we had discussed 
  regarding the use of the Win2Koption. 
  
  http://support.veritas.com/docs/262411
  
  To reiterate what's 
  occurring:
  
  What is happening is that Windows 
  2003 Shadow Copy Components have changed so that there is a slip in 
  recovering some registry hives. (see the Microsoft link at the bottom of 
  the technote) For us to keep up with these changes, we need to 
  modify our software with new patch releases. The new release for 
  this issue is due out soon, but no concrete date that I can release. 
  In the meantime, I will create an escalations task and will inform you on 
  what I can get from backline, and what they may request from you for 
  additional information. 
  
  At any 
  rate it was definately fixed with mp4, for your sake Simon I would test 
  your MP2 or upgradeyour master/media servers to 
  mp4. 
  
  dds
  
  
  -Original Message-From: 
  WEAVER, Simon [mailto: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 
  2006 6:56 AMTo: Spearman, David; Wilkinson, Tim; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: 
  [Veritas-bu] Restoring entire servers 
(Windows)

David
What is the bug, as we 
use MP2 NBU 5.1

can you provide 
details on this?

Thanks
Regards
Simon 
Weaver3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain 
Administrator 
EADS Astrium 
Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU 

Email: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  
  -Original 
  Message-From: Spearman, David [mailto: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 August 2006 
  11:33To: Wilkinson, Tim; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: 
  Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring entire servers (Windows)
  Tim,
  
  Windows is the easiest 
  restore in the entire venue. From scratch, load the OS (patched to 
  whatever level your version of NBU requires) and leave it in the workgroup 
  mode with a workgroup having the same name as the domain it was 
  in.Load the nbu agent, partition the drive, thendo a FULL 
  resore, reboot, done. I have actually done this across disimiliar 
  platforms, albeit you have to be a bit tricky. In short we will never 
  waste money on windows bmr, it's just to easy to do it the old fashioned 
  way. The only caveats are 
  1. Domain Comtrollers 
  require a reboot into domain controller restore mode
  2. NB5.1 mp2 had a major 
  bug with w2k3. Just make sure you are higher (or lower) than 
  that.
  

-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On 
Behalf Of Wilkinson, TimSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 
12:27 AMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: 
[Veritas-bu] Restoring entire servers (Windows)
I'm just reviewing disaster recovery 
at the moment and have found a paragraph or 2 recommending that all 
system files and application files are backed up. We generally run A_L_D 
in our policies 

Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring entire servers (Windows)

2006-08-02 Thread Paul Keating
Title: Message



From 
what I understand, any "in use" files, such as system files, are not over 
written in situ, but rather are restored to an alternate namesort of, and 
tagged for the OS to swap it after reboot.

so 
since the file in use, and the new restored file both exist, you need "some" 
extra space.

shouldn't be a whole lot extra.

Paul

I 
should set up a filter to move Steve Wineman's "out of office" messages direct 
to the the trash

-- 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WEAVER, 
  SimonSent: August 2, 2006 8:38 AMTo: 'Shyam Hazari'; 
  Spearman, DavidCc: 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] 
  Restoring entire servers (Windows)
  I heard about this - does anyone know why the 
  restore needs MORE disk space to recover the OS 
  ?
  Regards
  Simon 
  Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows Domain 
  Administrator 



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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone using VTL

2006-08-02 Thread Jeff Lightner
You might want to in order to do database refreshes by restoring one
machines database backup to another's database.  We currently do that
with tape using the FORCE_MEDIA_RESTORE option in our SSO setup.  I
don't think having separate disks would eliminate this need unless you
wanted to do a 2 stage operation where you first copied an existing
backup disk to disk then did the restore.  Haven't used VTL so perhaps
I'm missing something.

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But why would you have to?

Just create more virtual drives on the VTL, and give each media server
its own drives.

Save some cash on SSO licenses, and buy more disk. ;o)

Paul

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 The biggest one that no-one has mentioned yet is the ability to share
 resources between media servers.  With VTL, you can use SSO to allow
 multiple media servers access to the same resources just like 
 real tape
 drives.  DSSUs are still confined to the one media server that has
 access to the disk.
 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring entire servers (Windows)

2006-08-02 Thread Shyam Hazari
The system files are queued up when you do the restore(it will not replace when the system is running). The files are replaced when you do a reboot.

-Shyam
On 8/2/06, WEAVER, Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I heard about this - does anyone know why the restore needs MORE disk space to recover the OS ?
Regards
Simon Weaver3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 
EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

Email: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-From: Shyam Hazari [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 August 2006 13:09To: Spearman, DavidCc: 
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring entire servers (Windows)
Check this tech note.

http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/251163.htm
I had to recover a production server after crash few weeks back. What I did was to restore system_state and C: drive at one go. Make sure you have enough space in the C: drive. Otherwise it will not restore all the required files and will cause the system reboot continuously. I have seen this happen before. 


-Shyam
On 8/2/06, Spearman, David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote: 





Sorry one and All, made a mistake, it was 5.1mp3 that had the problem.My support call is below
 



I tried restoring a w2k3 server as a test and got an lssas error on 
reboot, with the machine constantly rebooting. After going to your support 
page I ran in to the following document

Document ID: 274353 
http://support.veritas.com/docs/274353
 

It essentially says contact veritas. So what now?
RESPONSE
David,

As we had discussed, this is a known issue, so there wasn't any configurationmistakes on your end. There is a technote with troubleshooting steps to try and remedy the issue. This isn't a 100% guaranteed fix, as we had discussed regarding the use of the Win2Koption. 


http://support.veritas.com/docs/262411

To reiterate what's occurring:

What is happening is that Windows 2003 Shadow Copy Components have changed so that there is a slip in recovering some registry hives. (see the Microsoft link at the bottom of the technote) For us to keep up with these changes, we need to modify our software with new patch releases. The new release for this issue is due out soon, but no concrete date that I can release. In the meantime, I will create an escalations task and will inform you on what I can get from backline, and what they may request from you for additional information. 


At any rate it was definately fixed with mp4, for your sake Simon I would test your MP2 or upgradeyour master/media servers to mp4.
 

dds


-Original Message-From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 6:56 AMTo: Spearman, David; Wilkinson, Tim; 
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Restoring entire servers (Windows)

David
What is the bug, as we use MP2 NBU 5.1

can you provide details on this?

Thanks
Regards
Simon Weaver3rd Line Technical Support 
Windows Domain Administrator 
EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU 

Email: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-From: Spearman, David [mailto:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 August 2006 11:33To: Wilkinson, Tim; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring entire servers (Windows)
Tim,

Windows is the easiest restore in the entire venue. From scratch, load the OS (patched to whatever level your version of NBU requires) and leave it in the workgroup mode with a workgroup having the same name as the domain it was in.Load the nbu agent, partition the drive, thendo a FULL resore, reboot, done. I have actually done this across disimiliar platforms, albeit you have to be a bit tricky. In short we will never waste money on windows bmr, it's just to easy to do it the old fashioned way. The only caveats are 

1. Domain Comtrollers require a reboot into domain controller restore mode
2. NB5.1 mp2 had a major bug with w2k3. Just make sure you are higher (or lower) than that.


-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
] On Behalf Of Wilkinson, TimSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 12:27 AMTo: 
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Restoring entire servers (Windows)
I'm just reviewing disaster recovery at the moment and have found a paragraph or 2 recommending that all system files and application files are backed up. We generally run A_L_D in our policies 'just in case' but I've been thinking about restoring system and application files and wonder how most people approach this sort of thing. 

We don't use BMR so I figure the best way to restore an entire server is to rebuild the OS, install any applications then restore actual 'data'; I've always considered if you try to restore 'everything' it could get a bit messy and confused if some of it doesn't get restored exactly as it was before. 

Without using BMR, can you restore the contents of an entire server in Windows (I'm talking 

Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring entire servers (Windows)

2006-08-02 Thread Martin, Jonathan \(Contractor\)
Title: Message



The open file writes don't occur until after reboot. 
So essentially you've got multiple copies of many window files just sitting 
around in temporary locations waiting for the next reboot to replace the 
original file. IMO if you are THAT strapped for space on your C: you've 
got a worse problem then needing a restore. =P

-Jonathan


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WEAVER, 
SimonSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 8:38 AMTo: 'Shyam 
Hazari'; Spearman, DavidCc: 
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring 
entire servers (Windows)

I 
heard about this - does anyone know why the restore needs MORE disk space to 
recover the OS ?
Regards
Simon Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows 
Domain Administrator 
EADS Astrium 
Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 
5PU
Email: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  
  -Original Message-From: Shyam Hazari 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 August 2006 13:09To: 
  Spearman, DavidCc: 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] 
  Restoring entire servers (Windows)
  Check this tech note.
  
  http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/251163.htm
  I had to recover a production server after crash few weeks back. What I 
  did was to restore system_state and C: drive at one go. Make sure you have 
  enough space in the C: drive. Otherwise it will not restore all the required 
  files and will cause the system reboot continuously. I have seen this happen 
  before. 
  
  -Shyam
  On 8/2/06, Spearman, 
  David [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote: 
  



  
  Sorry one and All, made a 
  mistake, it was 5.1mp3 that had the problem.My support call is 
  below 
  
  
  
  I tried restoring a w2k3 server as a test and got an lssas 
  error on 
  reboot, with the machine constantly rebooting. After going 
  to your support 
  page I ran in to the following document
  
  Document ID: 274353 
  http://support.veritas.com/docs/274353 
  
  
  It essentially says contact veritas. So what 
  now?
  RESPONSE
  David,
  
  As we had discussed, this is a known 
  issue, so there wasn't any configurationmistakes on your end. There 
  is a technote with troubleshooting steps to try and remedy the 
  issue. This isn't a 100% guaranteed fix, as we had discussed 
  regarding the use of the Win2Koption. 
  
  http://support.veritas.com/docs/262411
  
  To reiterate what's 
  occurring:
  
  What is happening is that Windows 
  2003 Shadow Copy Components have changed so that there is a slip in 
  recovering some registry hives. (see the Microsoft link at the bottom of 
  the technote) For us to keep up with these changes, we need to 
  modify our software with new patch releases. The new release for 
  this issue is due out soon, but no concrete date that I can release. 
  In the meantime, I will create an escalations task and will inform you on 
  what I can get from backline, and what they may request from you for 
  additional information. 
  
  At any 
  rate it was definately fixed with mp4, for your sake Simon I would test 
  your MP2 or upgradeyour master/media servers to 
  mp4. 
  
  dds
  
  
  -Original Message-From: 
  WEAVER, Simon [mailto: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 
  2006 6:56 AMTo: Spearman, David; Wilkinson, Tim; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: 
  [Veritas-bu] Restoring entire servers 
(Windows)

David
What is the bug, as we 
use MP2 NBU 5.1

can you provide 
details on this?

Thanks
Regards
Simon 
Weaver3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain 
Administrator 
EADS Astrium 
Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU 

Email: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  
  -Original 
  Message-From: Spearman, David [mailto: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 August 2006 
  11:33To: Wilkinson, Tim; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: 
  Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring entire servers (Windows)
  Tim,
  
  Windows is the easiest 
  restore in the entire venue. From scratch, load the OS (patched to 
  whatever level your version of NBU requires) and leave it in the workgroup 
  mode with a workgroup having the same name as the domain it was 
  in.Load the nbu agent, partition the drive, thendo a FULL 
  resore, reboot, done. I have actually done this across disimiliar 
  platforms, albeit you have to be a bit tricky. In short we will never 
  waste money on windows bmr, it's just to easy to do it the old fashioned 
  way. The only caveats are 
  1. Domain Comtrollers 
  require a reboot into domain controller restore mode
  2. NB5.1 mp2 had a major 
  bug 

Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring entire servers (Windows)

2006-08-02 Thread WEAVER, Simon
Title: Message



Jonathan
I 
am assuming its only for files in use - because lets assume you have an 8GB 
Partition and 6GB is filled with apps / OS.

If NetBackup needs MORE than 2GB, that is going to be a 
problem.
Regards
Simon Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows 
Domain Administrator 
EADS Astrium 
Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 
5PU
Email: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  
  -Original Message-From: Martin, Jonathan 
  (Contractor) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 August 2006 
  14:03To: WEAVER, Simon; Shyam Hazari; Spearman, DavidCc: 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] 
  Restoring entire servers (Windows)
  The open file writes don't occur until after 
  reboot. So essentially you've got multiple copies of many window files 
  just sitting around in temporary locations waiting for the next reboot to 
  replace the original file. IMO if you are THAT strapped for space on 
  your C: you've got a worse problem then needing a restore. 
  =P
  
  -Jonathan
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WEAVER, 
  SimonSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 8:38 AMTo: 'Shyam 
  Hazari'; Spearman, DavidCc: 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] 
  Restoring entire servers (Windows)
  
  I heard about this - does anyone know why the 
  restore needs MORE disk space to recover the OS 
  ?
  Regards
  Simon 
  Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows Domain 
  Administrator 
  EADS Astrium 
  Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 
  5PU
  Email: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  

-Original Message-From: Shyam Hazari 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 August 2006 
13:09To: Spearman, DavidCc: 
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] 
Restoring entire servers (Windows)
Check this tech note.

http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/251163.htm
I had to recover a production server after crash few weeks back. What I 
did was to restore system_state and C: drive at one go. Make sure you have 
enough space in the C: drive. Otherwise it will not restore all the required 
files and will cause the system reboot continuously. I have seen this happen 
before. 

-Shyam
On 8/2/06, Spearman, 
David [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote: 

  
  
  

Sorry one and All, made a 
mistake, it was 5.1mp3 that had the problem.My support call is 
below 



I tried restoring a w2k3 server as a test and got an 
lssas error on 
reboot, with the machine constantly rebooting. After 
going to your support 
page I ran in to the following document

Document ID: 274353 
http://support.veritas.com/docs/274353 


It essentially says contact veritas. So what 
now?
RESPONSE
David,

As we had discussed, this is a known 
issue, so there wasn't any configurationmistakes on your end. 
There is a technote with troubleshooting steps to try and remedy the 
issue. This isn't a 100% guaranteed fix, as we had discussed 
regarding the use of the Win2Koption. 

http://support.veritas.com/docs/262411

To reiterate what's 
occurring:

What is happening is that 
Windows 2003 Shadow Copy Components have changed so that there is a slip 
in recovering some registry hives. (see the Microsoft link at the bottom 
of the technote) For us to keep up with these changes, we need to 
modify our software with new patch releases. The new release for 
this issue is due out soon, but no concrete date that I can 
release. In the meantime, I will create an escalations task and 
will inform you on what I can get from backline, and what they may 
request from you for additional information. 

At 
any rate it was definately fixed with mp4, for your sake Simon I would 
test your MP2 or upgradeyour master/media servers to 
mp4. 

dds


-Original Message-From: 
WEAVER, Simon [mailto: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 
02, 2006 6:56 AMTo: Spearman, David; Wilkinson, Tim; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: 
RE: [Veritas-bu] Restoring entire servers 
(Windows)
  
  David
  What is the bug, as 
  we use MP2 NBU 5.1
  
  can you provide 
  details on this?
  
  Thanks
  Regards
  Simon 
  Weaver3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain 
  Administrator 
  EADS Astrium 
  Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU 
  
  Email: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  

-Original Message-From: Spearman, David 
   

Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring entire servers (Windows)

2006-08-02 Thread WEAVER, Simon
Title: Message



Same here Paul 

I 
get them ALL the time!! I think its more of an AUTO RESPONSE, rather than Out Of 
Office (This should only appear once and no 
more!)


Regards
Simon Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows 
Domain Administrator 
EADS Astrium 
Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 
5PU
Email: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  
  -Original Message-From: Paul Keating 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 August 2006 
  13:44To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: 
  [Veritas-bu] Restoring entire servers (Windows)
  From 
  what I understand, any "in use" files, such as system files, are not over 
  written in situ, but rather are restored to an alternate namesort of, and 
  tagged for the OS to swap it after reboot.
  
  so 
  since the file in use, and the new restored file both exist, you need "some" 
  extra space.
  
  shouldn't be a whole lot extra.
  
  Paul
  
  I 
  should set up a filter to move Steve Wineman's "out of office" messages direct 
  to the the trash
  
  -- 
  

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Restoring entire servers (Windows)
I heard about this - does anyone know why the 
restore needs MORE disk space to recover the OS 
?
Regards
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Jobs won't go active

2006-08-02 Thread Barber, Layne \(Contractor\)
If you created a new stu on these, did you restart netbackup? Usually
that will happen on a new storage unit if you don't stop and restart
NBU. You can also try the following commands if you can't stop NBU right
now. Sometimes it will work and sometimes you just have to restart NBU.
 
bprdreq -rereadconfig
bpschedreq -read_stunits
bpschedreq -read_stu_config 

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Forester, Jack L
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 10:11
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Jobs won't go active

I've recently added a few new SAN media servers to my environment NBU
5.1MP5) and we are trying to run some test backups from these servers.
The job gets submitted and shows up queued in the activity monitor and
stays that way.  I left one like that overnight, and it was still queued
this morning.  The media servers are HPUX with a Solaris master.

I've checked bpsched, bprd, and bpcd logs on the master server as well
as the bprd and bpcd logs on the media server.  Nothing is screaming out
as to why jobs from these new media servers will not go active.  Other
jobs to other media servers are going active almost immediately.

What other things should I look into?  I've checked name resolution,
traceroutes in both directions, and have a support call open with
Symantec.  These new servers are supposed to go live this weekend.

Argh!

Jack L. Forester, Jr.
UNIX Systems Administrator, Stf
Lockheed Martin Information Technology
(304) 625-3946
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[Veritas-bu] Jobs won't go active

2006-08-02 Thread Forester, Jack L
I've recently added a few new SAN media servers to my environment NBU
5.1MP5) and we are trying to run some test backups from these servers.
The job gets submitted and shows up queued in the activity monitor and
stays that way.  I left one like that overnight, and it was still queued
this morning.  The media servers are HPUX with a Solaris master.

I've checked bpsched, bprd, and bpcd logs on the master server as well
as the bprd and bpcd logs on the media server.  Nothing is screaming out
as to why jobs from these new media servers will not go active.  Other
jobs to other media servers are going active almost immediately.

What other things should I look into?  I've checked name resolution,
traceroutes in both directions, and have a support call open with
Symantec.  These new servers are supposed to go live this weekend.

Argh!

Jack L. Forester, Jr.
UNIX Systems Administrator, Stf
Lockheed Martin Information Technology
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[Veritas-bu] How many days back can Advanced Reporter report on?

2006-08-02 Thread Kilpatrick, Mark








How many days back can advanced reporter report on? It
currently reports on 28 days. Can this number of days be configured to record
history for the previous 365 days?



Thanks, Mark









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[Veritas-bu] bpstart/bpend_notify - any way to run them from the master server?

2006-08-02 Thread Shane Liebling
Hey all, I am looking to run some scripts on the master server when
jobs kick off and/or end.  I know about the bpstart/bpend scripts, but
they run on the client-side AFAIK.  I also know about
backup_exit_notify, but I also need the start info as well.

Any suggestions?

-Shane
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[Veritas-bu] archiving for restore without netbackup

2006-08-02 Thread Kris Reiss
All - Wondering if I can archive a few large directories to tape, 
assuring that someone without NetBackup would be able to access the 
files.  Basically I need to mail someone their 500g home directory. I 
have searched docs and the list and found nothing relatied to this, but 
if it is there and I searched poorly, apologies.

-- 
Kris Reiss
Systems Administrator
Institute of Marine  Coastal Sciences 
Rutgers University 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Jobs won't go active

2006-08-02 Thread Ed Wilts
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 04:34:31PM +0100, Whelan, Patrick wrote:
 I have found that if you run 
 bprdreq -rereadconfig; bpschedreq -read_stunits; bpschedreq
 -read_stu_config 

And I've run into a case where doing this killed NetBackup to the point
that no jobs ran.  Safer to restart NBU IMO.  NBU 6 does allow you to
create STUs on the fly though.

.../Ed

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[Veritas-bu] Oracle Hot Backups using TimeFinder BCV

2006-08-02 Thread Shyam Hazari
Anyone out there using BCV's to do hot backups of Oracle databases ? I have few questions

After mounting the BCV's on the backup host

1) Do you backup the filesystems ?

or

Start the database on the backup host and do a hot backup using RMAN ?

2) Also how you backup the archive logs and how often ?

Much appreciated

-Shyam
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Re: [Veritas-bu] archiving for restore without netbackup

2006-08-02 Thread Lee, Kenneth \(SBS US\)
If you want someone without NetBackup to access the files, use tar, dd,
or cpio.  I am assuming you are on a Unix box.

Ken

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] archiving for restore without netbackup

All - Wondering if I can archive a few large directories to tape, 
assuring that someone without NetBackup would be able to access the 
files.  Basically I need to mail someone their 500g home directory. I 
have searched docs and the list and found nothing relatied to this, but 
if it is there and I searched poorly, apologies.

-- 
Kris Reiss
Systems Administrator
Institute of Marine  Coastal Sciences 
Rutgers University 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle Hot Backups using TimeFinder BCV

2006-08-02 Thread Lee, Kenneth \(SBS US\)








There is no need to do RMAN on the backup
host, just do a file system backup. I am assuming that you are doing
something to put Oracle in backup mode before you do your split. As for
the archive logs, it depends on how your file system was set up. If your
archive logs are on the BCV volumes, then that will be moved to tape when you
backup the file system. The problem with having archive logs on the BCV
volumes is, when you do a restore of the BCV, you will overlay your current
logs on the file system, which is very bad. What I do is make sure the
Oracle archive logs are not on the BCV volumes and crontab a script to backup
the logs using NetBackup and delete them when it has been backed up.



Ken



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Backups using TimeFinder BCV





Anyone out there using BCV's to do hot backups of
Oracle databases ? I have few questions











After mounting the BCV's on the backup host











1) Do you backup the filesystems ?











or











Start the database on the backup host and do a hot
backup using RMAN ?











2) Also how you backup the archive logs and how often
?











Much appreciated











-Shyam








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[Veritas-bu] NDMP restore problem - NDMP_HALT_INTERNAL_ERROR Type 5 on Solaris Server with 5.1 MP4

2006-08-02 Thread JAJA \(Jamie Jamison\)



I'm trying to 
restore a file from an NDMP volume and it fails with 'status 5 - 
NDMP_HALT_INTERNAL_ERROR'. When this happens nothing shows in the console of my 
NetApp filer and the message I get on the backup/restore console 
is

WRN - Cannot restore 
from filepath /vol/volW5a, NDMP_HALT_INTERNAL_ERROR 
occurred.

I've forced the 
restore from another drive and see the same error message. I am ordering back 
another tape with the same file on it to see if I can restore from it before I 
submit a ticket. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thank 
You,


Jamie 
Jamison
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP restore problem - NDMP_HALT_INTERNAL_ERROR Type 5on Solaris Server with 5.1 MP4

2006-08-02 Thread Len Boyle



You have to look at the logs on the netapp. You can look in 
the /etc/messages file, but I suspect that you will not find anything. 

There is also an ndmplog (watch my spelling) If memory 
serve me you issue the command on the netapp of ndmpd debug xx 

where the higher the number the more detail. so 50 is good, 
I think 70 is the highest. A good chance that this will give you the info you 
require.

After the restore can you see the file you are restoring. 
We have one set ofdata that always gets a return code of 5, but it is 
after the restore is finishedwhen it is trying to change the permissions 
on the file, which fails.But the filewas 
restored.

len


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JAJA 
(Jamie Jamison)Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 8:46 PMTo: 
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] NDMP restore 
problem - NDMP_HALT_INTERNAL_ERROR Type 5on Solaris Server with 5.1 
MP4

I'm trying to 
restore a file from an NDMP volume and it fails with 'status 5 - 
NDMP_HALT_INTERNAL_ERROR'. When this happens nothing shows in the console of my 
NetApp filer and the message I get on the backup/restore console 
is

WRN - Cannot restore 
from filepath /vol/volW5a, NDMP_HALT_INTERNAL_ERROR 
occurred.

I've forced the 
restore from another drive and see the same error message. I am ordering back 
another tape with the same file on it to see if I can restore from it before I 
submit a ticket. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thank 
You,


Jamie 
Jamison
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