Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO-3 and MPX

2006-11-23 Thread Justin Piszcz


On Thu, 23 Nov 2006, Hampus Lind wrote:

 Hi all,
 
  
 
 How good/bad are LTO-3 drives when it comes to multiplexing? Would we see
 great performance degradation if we set MPX to 4 on 1 LTO-3 drive and the
 run 4 simulations backups to that drive?
 
  
 
 I understand it can depend a lot on our clients as well.
 
  
 
 Thanks and regards,
 
  
 
 Hampus Lind
 Rikspolisstyrelsen
 National Police Board
 Tel dir: +46 (0)8 - 401 99 43
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I wouldn't run them without it.  Do benchmarking.  Level 3 was the fastest 
for backups  restores in my testing, as MPX increases by 1, 
backup/restore speed decreased by 2MB/s.

Justin.
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[Veritas-bu] Upgrade to NBU 6.0 or wait for 6.5...

2006-11-23 Thread Hampus Lind
Hi all,

 

We run NBU 5.1 and are considering to upgrade to 6.0 in Q1 next year.. But
what I have understood Symantec will release NBU 6.5 in summer time 2007. 

Of course there can be delays in 6.5 delivery and it may or may not bee
unstable.. But anyhow, what are your plans if you run 5.1?

 

Thanks and regards, 

 

Hampus Lind
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Tel mob: +46 (0)70 - 217 92 66
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Upgrade to NBU 6.0 or wait for 6.5...

2006-11-23 Thread WEAVER, Simon

6.5 !! you may want to review documents for 6.0 - dont think this would be
out until late 2007 surely!
 
As for easy upgrade to this version again, could not tell you or even
comment on this!
 
If 5.1 does what you want it to do, then you may want to stick with this.
 
If version 6.0 offers extra benefits that you need, then review the
possibility of upgrade or migrate to a clean install.

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

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Hi all,

 

We run NBU 5.1 and are considering to upgrade to 6.0 in Q1 next year.. But
what I have understood Symantec will release NBU 6.5 in summer time 2007. 

Of course there can be delays in 6.5 delivery and it may or may not bee
unstable.. But anyhow, what are your plans if you run 5.1?

 

Thanks and regards, 

 

Hampus Lind
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Multithreaded / Multicore CPUs

2006-11-23 Thread Peter Marelas
NBU forks multiple processes per job so you should benefit from
multi-core CPU's.

However, since backup/restore depends greatly on data input (network)
and output (tape/disk) you should ensure everything in the data path
(drivers, etc) can utilise multiple processes.

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Hi,

Does anyone have any experience of running NetBackup on Multithreaded /
Multicore CPUs, or knowledge of whether NetBackup can multithread to
take advantage of such hardware?  Maybe more important is how the OS
would allocate CPU resources to the tape drives  NICs ... any
ideas/experience would be helpful.

Thinking of upgrading media servers to Sun T2000s, but getting
conflicting opinions of whether it would perform.
Would be NetBackup 5.1, Solaris 10.

thanks, Phil

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Upgrade to NBU 6.0 or wait for 6.5...

2006-11-23 Thread Len Boyle
Phil, 
 
6.0 is the release that did the multithreading thing. I am not sure if all of 
netbackup is now multithreaded, but much of it is. 
For us the early 6.0 was really unstable, but  we had several problems with 5.1 
that were fixed with 6.0. (Because netbackup 5 was not multithreaded we had 
timeouts which lead to different socket errors when running more then one 
backup stream to a client).
 
The 6.0 MP3 patch fixed many of the multithreading issues and MP4 added many 
more fixes. 
 
As 5.1 was not perfect, it may be to the point where 6.0 MP4 is better. It all 
depends on the options you are using, the hardware you are using, and the 
attributes of your workload. 
 
len



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Due to the emails I've seen on this list about 6.0 issues, I plan to stay on 
5.1 until I have a pressing need to upgrade or 6.0 seems to have settled down.  
Apparently 6.5 may be multithreaded, which might influence my decision based on 
some hardware that is also coming in the door.  Mind you, that suggests a 
re-write, so maybe we'll expect lots of problems with 6.5 when it comes out?
 
Phil

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Hi all,

 

We run NBU 5.1 and are considering to upgrade to 6.0 in Q1 next year.. 
But what I have understood Symantec will release NBU 6.5 in summer time 2007. 

Of course there can be delays in 6.5 delivery and it may or may not bee 
unstable.. But anyhow, what are your plans if you run 5.1?

 

Thanks and regards, 

 

Hampus Lind
Rikspolisstyrelsen
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Tel mob: +46 (0)70 - 217 92 66
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[Veritas-bu] Sharing drives between NDMP and non NDMP environments

2006-11-23 Thread POUSSARD, Gilles \(INFOTEL\)

Hi all,

I am running Netbackup 5.1 MP5 and it is a stable version

I wish to upgrade in 6.0 MP4 in Q1 2007 because this is the only 
version which supports W2003 64 bits in media server mode.

But as I have some Netapp filers, I wish to share the drives between 
UNIX/ Windows media servers and Netapp filers.

Does anyone has some configurations like this ?? How is it configured 
?? with SSO ?? It is working well ??

Thanks 

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[Veritas-bu] Suse 10.1 client?

2006-11-23 Thread Chris Freemantle
Does anyone know the minimum client version for use on suse 10.1?
I suppose there are 2 questions there really - can I backup suse 10.1 
using Netbackup 5.1. If not, is there any version that will back this 
up.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] MP4 and I'm broken

2006-11-23 Thread Darren Dunham
 
 Does this mean the problem will appear wherever there are multiple NICs?
 Does anyone use multiple NICs who has not had this issue with MP4? I'd
 have though multiple NICs are pretty common these days.
 How did the alias fix the issue? 

My server is on two networks.  I haven't seen any issues with our MP4
installation.  Linux.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] MP4 and I'm broken

2006-11-23 Thread Scott Jacobson
What was the alias Ed was referring to

 Darren Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/23/2006 11:29 AM 
 
 Does this mean the problem will appear wherever there are multiple NICs?
 Does anyone use multiple NICs who has not had this issue with MP4? I'd
 have though multiple NICs are pretty common these days.
 How did the alias fix the issue? 

My server is on two networks.  I haven't seen any issues with our MP4
installation.  Linux.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] ACSLS Question

2006-11-23 Thread Dean

Justin,

You don't need SSO to share the ACSLS library. One of the media servers
should be the robotic control host, just like with a normal SCSI library.

I think you'll need to define the library on each media server, but specifiy
your first media server as the control host.

You'll need SSO if you want to dynamically share the drives inside the
library between media servers.


On 11/24/06, Justin Piszcz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


If I have  1 media server in a robot controlled by ACSLS, do I need SSO
in order to use it?

I want to add multiple tape drives spread across multiple media servers in
an ACSLS robot, but only the first media server has control over the
robot?  Unless I add multiple robots, one for each of the drives attached
to each media server?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] MP4 and I'm broken

2006-11-23 Thread Ed Wilts
On 11/23/2006 12:47 PM, Scott Jacobson wrote:
 What was the alias Ed was referring to

It's an emm alias.  If your master or media servers have multiple NICs, 
they probably also have multiple names.  In this case, you need to tell 
emm which alias correspond to which.  For example, if you have 
foo.stp.example.com and foo.bck.example.com both pointing to the same 
server, you'd define that as an alias.

My guess is that there was a bug in early 6.0 releases that sent the 
data out the wrong interface and it was fixed in MP4, causing the emm 
authentication to fail.  This is just a guess though...

   Darren Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/23/2006 11:29 AM 
  
   Does this mean the problem will appear wherever there are multiple NICs?
   Does anyone use multiple NICs who has not had this issue with MP4? I'd
   have though multiple NICs are pretty common these days.
   How did the alias fix the issue?
 
 My server is on two networks.  I haven't seen any issues with our MP4
 installation.  Linux.

You probably had everything defined properly in the first place.

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