Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU & Aptare - Real World Benefits

[Ed Wilts]

On 3/19/2007 9:49 PM, Scott Jacobson wrote:
> I'm already convinced of the vendor preference for Aptare as the third 
> party NetBackup reporting tool alternative, what I'd like to know is the 
> real world experiences for this tool and reports the can be generated 
> and realized in terms of:
>  
> 1. Cost management.
> 2. Process management (scheduling).
> 3. Capacity management (of which there are many. ie. tape utilization, 
> pool utilization etc.)
> 4. Forecasting (predicative analysis with thresholds etc.)
>  
> or anything else that has helped in terms of proficiency, driving down 
> costs and/or other economic benefits since having installed it into an 
> enterprise environment.

We use Aptare StorageConsole in many ways:
- identify when we're running out of tape drives by measuring utilization.
- identify when we run out of tape library slots
- identify tapes in the wrong pool - those tapes did not get returned to 
the proper pools so therefore were tying up library slots and forcing us 
to buy more tapes
- long-term trending.  We don't use the StorageConsole modules to 
forecast tape utilization but we use the volume trending graphs
- 6-Sigma quality control (we use a combination of exported Aptare data 
and our own graphs)
- scheduling quality.  StorageConsole helped us identify major bugs in 
NetBackup 6.0MP3 where jobs weren't being properly scheduled (fixed in MP4).
- distributed quality control - DBAs now check their own success rates 
and volumes.  The 6-Sigma graphs are generated by another group without 
our help (beyond the initial training)
- Mission Control reports are superb for seeing the success rate of 
individual mount points rather than looking at just looking at overall 
server success rates.  Helps identify mount points that are at risk. 
Especially critical for things like databases that are spread across 
multiple mount points or Exchange stores.
- on the capacity management front, we've migrated from one tape 
technology to another.  We're using StorageConsole to give us visibility 
into the individual tape pools and retention dates to see if/when we 
should rewrite the old tapes to new tapes.
- centralized reporting - we now report on both BackupExec and 
NetBackup.  We're primarily BackupExec in our remote offices.  This now 
gives us better capacity planning for our remote sites.

These are benefits from StorageConsole that we get all the time - some 
exclusively from StorageConsole and some in combination with our own 
tools.  I'm pretty sure that there are features that we're not using yet 
(some just because they're not as applicable to our environment as they 
could be to others and perhaps some just because I haven't mastered it 
all (like automated reporting)).

I hope this helps - I know I rambled but I figured you're rather a 
rambling timely report than none at all.

.../Ed
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[Veritas-bu] NBU & Aptare - Real World Benefits

[Scott Jacobson]

To those NBU Aptare users:
 
I'm already convinced of the vendor preference for Aptare as the third party 
NetBackup reporting tool alternative, what I'd like to know is the real world 
experiences for this tool and reports the can be generated and realized in 
terms of:
 
1. Cost management.
2. Process management (scheduling).
3. Capacity management (of which there are many. ie. tape utilization, pool 
utilization etc.)
4. Forecasting (predicative analysis with thresholds etc.)
 
or anything else that has helped in terms of proficiency, driving down costs 
and/or other economic benefits since having installed it into an enterprise 
environment.
 
I can get the "sales" pitch answers from Aptare directly, but I'm more 
interested in this forum's real world experiences.
 
A timely response would be appreciated.
 
Thank you,
Scott
 
PS: Environment - W2K/W2K3 Master
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Reuse netbackup catalogue tapes

[Ed Wilts]

On 3/19/2007 8:43 AM, Hindle, Greg wrote:
> What is the best practice in reusing old netbackup catalogue tapes? It 
> is just to use the bplabel to erase the internal label?

Upgrade to 6.0 and treat them like any other tape - with expiration 
dates, pools, etc.  When they expire, they'll go back in to the Scratch 
pool.

.../Ed

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Migrating a media server, HOWTO?

[Ed Wilts]

On 3/19/2007 1:35 PM, Justin Piszcz wrote:
> Has anyone taken a 6.0 media server on one box and since it had to be 
> released, you 'migrate' it to newer hardware with the same settings?
> 
> Does anything special need to be done?  I have done this on numerous 
> occasions with 5.1, but not 6.0.

We've done it on Windows and it wasn't too bad - just install a new OS, 
install NetBackup, copy over a few touch files, and you're done.  This 
was back in the fall and Veritas was on site helping with our MP4 
upgrade (which we did at the same time) so I don't remember all the 
details, but it was relatively painless.  The painful parts were the EMM 
changes caused by MP4 that we didn't plan for.

.../Ed

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Re: [Veritas-bu] (46) server not allowed

[Rockey Reed]

If you edit the registry, make sure the master is the 1st server in
list!

Thanks, 
Rockey J. Reed 
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] (46) server not allowed

If you are still having the problem, open regedit on the client.  Goto 
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\VERITAS\NetBackup\CurrentVersion\Config
There is a multi-string key entry for Server 
Add your master server name in the data for that key

If the key does not exist add it as a multi-string key and add you
master server in it.  Close regedit and try your restore again.


Doug Preston
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] (46) server not allowed

Hi All 

we are running version 5.1. Client is windows 2000 and server is windows
2000.

Im getting (46) server not allowed when getting the client properties. I
cant restore to the system from the server.

I know about  bpclntcmd but have only used it once.

Idea's thanks
 
BB

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Re: [Veritas-bu] (46) server not allowed

[Preston, Douglas L]

If you are still having the problem, open regedit on the client.  Goto 
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\VERITAS\NetBackup\CurrentVersion\Config
There is a multi-string key entry for Server 
Add your master server name in the data for that key

If the key does not exist add it as a multi-string key and add you
master server in it.  Close regedit and try your restore again.


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Hi All 

we are running version 5.1. Client is windows 2000 and server is windows
2000.

Im getting (46) server not allowed when getting the client properties. I
cant restore to the system from the server.

I know about  bpclntcmd but have only used it once.

Idea's thanks
 
BB

Bevan Broun
Systems Engineer
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F: (02) 9562 2857
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Re: [Veritas-bu] (46) server not allowed

[Whelan, Patrick]

Be sure DISALLOW_SERVER_WRITES (sp?) = NO. You run bpgetconfig -M  and 
grep/find for DISALLOW and check that it is set to no. If it is set to yes, you 
can only change it on the client.

regards,

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Architect & Engineering
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From: Ian 
Sent: Mon 19/03/2007 6:27 PM
To: Broun, Bevan
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] (46) server not allowed


Hi Bevan,

Sounds like the Netbackup server is not set on the client. If it was a
UNIX client I'd say check the bp.conf file for the SERVER setting, but
for a Windows client I believe this is set in the registry and is
usually done at install time.

For the registry stuff I don't know exactly the location, but if you
run regedit on the Windows client and do a search (F3) and search for
the string SERVER using match case.
It will be under the LOCAL/SOFTWARE branch called VERITAS, if you can
find that then search from there. Check the registry leaves called
SERVER and/or MEDIA_SERVER. The SERVER one should be set to the
hostname of the Netbackup server. I suspect one of these is incorrect.

Maybe before you do this make sure that the Netbackup server hostname
and IP address can be correctly resolved from the client.

Hope this helps.

Ian

On 3/19/07, Broun, Bevan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All
>
> we are running version 5.1. Client is windows 2000 and server is windows
> 2000.
>
> Im getting (46) server not allowed when getting the client properties. I
> cant restore to the system from the server.
>
> I know about  bpclntcmd but have only used it once.
>
> Idea's thanks
>
> BB
>
> Bevan Broun
> Systems Engineer
> --
> Civil - Integration & Outsourcing Services
> Thales Australia
> Address
> Address
> T: (02) 9562 2861
> F: (02) 9562 2857
> M: 0407 225 492
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> www.thalesgroup.com.au
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Re: [Veritas-bu] (46) server not allowed

[Martin, Jonathan \(Contractor\)]

I'm not sure I understand the issue...  

1) If you need to change the windows client properties you can do it
from the Netbackup Backup and Restore app.  Just go to file --> client
properties.

2) If you can't restore to that server then Netbackup thinks its
something else aka ... You can't run a restore on server1 of data from
server2.  Try adding the NO_RESTICTIONS touch file to uhm.. wherever
that goes... Alternately, run the restore from the master.

-Jonathan 

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] (46) server not allowed

Hi Bevan,

Sounds like the Netbackup server is not set on the client. If it was a
UNIX client I'd say check the bp.conf file for the SERVER setting, but
for a Windows client I believe this is set in the registry and is
usually done at install time.

For the registry stuff I don't know exactly the location, but if you run
regedit on the Windows client and do a search (F3) and search for the
string SERVER using match case.
It will be under the LOCAL/SOFTWARE branch called VERITAS, if you can
find that then search from there. Check the registry leaves called
SERVER and/or MEDIA_SERVER. The SERVER one should be set to the hostname
of the Netbackup server. I suspect one of these is incorrect.

Maybe before you do this make sure that the Netbackup server hostname
and IP address can be correctly resolved from the client.

Hope this helps.

Ian

On 3/19/07, Broun, Bevan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All
>
> we are running version 5.1. Client is windows 2000 and server is 
> windows 2000.
>
> Im getting (46) server not allowed when getting the client properties.

> I cant restore to the system from the server.
>
> I know about  bpclntcmd but have only used it once.
>
> Idea's thanks
>
> BB
>
> Bevan Broun
> Systems Engineer
> --
> Civil - Integration & Outsourcing Services Thales Australia Address 
> Address
> T: (02) 9562 2861
> F: (02) 9562 2857
> M: 0407 225 492
> Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thalesgroup.com.au
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Re: [Veritas-bu] (46) server not allowed

[Ian]

Hi Bevan,

Sounds like the Netbackup server is not set on the client. If it was a
UNIX client I'd say check the bp.conf file for the SERVER setting, but
for a Windows client I believe this is set in the registry and is
usually done at install time.

For the registry stuff I don't know exactly the location, but if you
run regedit on the Windows client and do a search (F3) and search for
the string SERVER using match case.
It will be under the LOCAL/SOFTWARE branch called VERITAS, if you can
find that then search from there. Check the registry leaves called
SERVER and/or MEDIA_SERVER. The SERVER one should be set to the
hostname of the Netbackup server. I suspect one of these is incorrect.

Maybe before you do this make sure that the Netbackup server hostname
and IP address can be correctly resolved from the client.

Hope this helps.

Ian

On 3/19/07, Broun, Bevan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All
>
> we are running version 5.1. Client is windows 2000 and server is windows
> 2000.
>
> Im getting (46) server not allowed when getting the client properties. I
> cant restore to the system from the server.
>
> I know about  bpclntcmd but have only used it once.
>
> Idea's thanks
>
> BB
>
> Bevan Broun
> Systems Engineer
> --
> Civil - Integration & Outsourcing Services
> Thales Australia
> Address
> Address
> T: (02) 9562 2861
> F: (02) 9562 2857
> M: 0407 225 492
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> www.thalesgroup.com.au
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[Veritas-bu] Migrating a media server, HOWTO?

[Justin Piszcz]

With 5.1,

You can pretty much tar openv and build out a new system with the same 
settings and untar it back where it was, no issues.

Does anything change under 6.0?

I'd (PRESUME?) you could do the same thing as long as you install ICS 
services/etc and set it up the same way first?

Or is there some sort of UUID attached to each install of a particular 
media server?

Has anyone taken a 6.0 media server on one box and since it had to be 
released, you 'migrate' it to newer hardware with the same settings?

Does anything special need to be done?  I have done this on numerous 
occasions with 5.1, but not 6.0.

Justin.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Reuse netbackup catalogue tapes

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Greg
Think once the tape is deassigned, you do a bplabel -m 
 
Regards

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What is the best practice in reusing old netbackup catalogue tapes? It is
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[Veritas-bu] Reuse netbackup catalogue tapes

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What is the best practice in reusing old netbackup catalogue tapes? It
is just to use the bplabel to erase the internal label?
 
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[Veritas-bu] Unable to restore DBs on SQL2005 cluster

[Jenner, Steven]

Hi,

 

I am attempting to restore a DB using the Veritas SQL agent on a SQL
2005 cluster with no success. I have managed to restore both the MSDB
and Master Databases successfully (by running MSSQL in single user mode
for the Master and stopping SQL agent for the MSDB); but the non system
DB's are not playing.

 

The following error message is being displayed:

 

08:02:36 (508233.001) INF - Waiting for positioning of media id 000274
on server sn251170 for reading. 

08:03:08 (508233.001) INF - Beginning restore from server sn251170 to
client BRY02880-SQL1. 

08:03:16 (508233.001) The following files/folders were not restored:
DBMS MSG - ODBC message. ODBC return code <-1>, SQL State <37000>,
Message Text <[Microsoft][SQL Native Client][SQL Server]The operating
system returned the error '5(error not found)' while attempting
'OpenForRestore' on 'g:\FTData\sysfttestCMS\SQL.HDR'.> DBMS MSG -
<[Microsoft][SQL Native Client][SQL Server]File 'sysft_testCMS' cannot
be restored to 'g:\FTData\testCMS'. Use WITH MOVE to identify a valid
location for the file.> DBMS MSG - <[Microsoft][SQL Native Client][SQL
Server]Problems were identified while planning for the RESTORE
statement. Previous messages provide details.> DBMS MSG -
<[Microsoft][SQL Native Client][SQL Server]RESTORE DATABASE is
terminating abnormally.> ERR - Error found executing 

08:03:16 (508233.001) UTF -
/BRY02880-171.MSSQL7.BRY02880-SQL1\SQL1.db.test_cms.~.7.001of001.2007031
4093830..C

 08:03:16 (508233.001) UTF -
/BRY02880-171.MSSQL7.BRY02880-SQL1\SQL1.db.test_cms.~.7.001of001.2007031
4093830..C

 08:03:17 (508233.001) UTF -
/BRY02880-171.MSSQL7.BRY02880-SQL1\SQL1.db.test_cms.~.7.001of001.2007031
4093830..C 

08:03:17 (508233.001) UTF -
/BRY02880-171.MSSQL7.BRY02880-SQL1\SQL1.db.test_cms.~.7.001of001.2007031
4093830..C 

08:03:17 (508233.001) UTF -
/BRY02880-171.MSSQL7.BRY02880-SQL1\SQL1.db.test_cms.~.7.001of001.2007031
4093830..C ERR - Error in VDS->Close: 0x80770004. The text follows:
CONTINUATION: - An abort request is preventing anything except
termination actions. INF - OPERATION #1 of batch C:\Program
Files\VERITAS\NetBackup\DbExt\MsSql\test_cms.bch FAILED with status 1.
Elapsed time = 632(632) seconds. 08:03:17 (508233.001) Status of restore
from image created Wed Mar 14 

09:31:47 2007 = client process aborted 

 

I have attempted to perform the restore by using the Move template
option and renaming the file names, but again to no avail.

 

As I have had no issues in the past with regular MSSQL restores I
presume that this is probably a SQL2005 or cluster issue but am unsure
as to where to start after working on this for several days.

 

I would be grateful if anyone had any ideas or instructions regarding
restoring SQL 2005 clusters.

 

My environment is as follows:

 

Veritas Master & Media servers & client running Enterprise v5.1MP6

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Steve.

 


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