date:20070425

Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO-2 LTO-3 mix

2007-04-25 Thread McCammont, Anderson \(IT\)

No - changing the media id generation rule (MEDIA_ID_BARCODE_CHARS in
vm.conf) affects the media id.  Changing the barcode rules (potentially)
changes the media type and volume pool.  Existing tapes won't be
reallocated to a new pool on a barcode change - if they did then every
inventory of the library would break netbackup.  vmupdate(1M) only
assigns attributes to new media.
 
If we could put regexps into vmrule e.g.
 
(made up vmrule -listall -b)
barcode  mediavolume max mounts/
tag  type pool cleanings description

--
*CU$ HC2_CLN  None50 LTO Cleaning Tapes
CLN  DLT2_CLN None20 DLT Cleaning Tapes

*L4$ HCART4   Scratch  0 LTO4 media
*L3$ HCART3   Scratch  0 LTO3 media
*L2$ HCART2   Scratch  0 LTO2 media
   DEFAULT  None 0 
DEFAULT  Scratch  0 --


then the world would be a better place.  A trivial code change I'd bet
and a feature request that's been outstanding for several years.
 



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Williams
Sent: 25 April 2007 18:21
To: McCammont, Anderson (IT); 'Martin, Jonathan (Contractor)';
'Spearman, David'; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO-2 LTO-3 mix


You can't change the bar code rules like that in mid stream.  It would
change the media id of every tape already in the library and put every
existing tape in scratch.
 
You are going to either have to partition the drives in separate
partitions (Yuk), or just pick your default tape type and add all of the
other types manually (not a big deal).  Existing tapes don't use the bar
code rules anyway, they are already known.  It is only NEW to the robot
tapes that need to have a bar code rule.
 
I have 2 i2K's with both LTO-3 and LTO-2.  No big deal.  I have them in
the same partition.  I use the LTO-3's mostly for tape to tape
duplication for offsite (LTO-2 duplicated to LTO-3 works great).  Most
of the clients can't push data fast enough to feed the LTO-3 tapes.
(Yes, I do multiplex some mid range x3 to feed tapes data).  I use
Staging disks to catch the really slow ones and do disk to tape staging
to the LTO-3 tapes.  If you put the LTO-3's in their own partition, you
could not use any tape duplication between partitions.
 
Another major headache that I have at a site with 2 separate libraries
(both ADIC 1k's) is when one runs out of media, everything fails with 96
errors and then moves to the other physical library.  Not a big issue
until failure stats are looked at.
 




Bobby Williams 
2205 Peterson Drive 
Chattanooga, Tennessee  37421 
423-296-8200 

 




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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO-2 LTO-3 mix


If you do this you need to take part of your six digit barcode range and
dedicate it to the particular media type.  
 
It's sad that Netbackup doesn't support proper regexps in the barcode
rules so that the 'L2', 'L3' (presumably) 'L4' last two digits of the
barcode can be used to select the media type.  We've had a feature
request in for years for this and it's gone nowhere (unless 6.x does it
and our rep hasn't mentioned it).
 
  why's there no feedback on feature requests - even when they do
make it into a release you're left to scrabble round to see if it made
it in there.  



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Use barcode rules and media types.  LTO2 media can be hcart2 and LTO3
can be hcart3 (I think hcart stands for Half-Inch Cartridge.)  NBU will
never put a hcart2 tape into an hcart3 tape device.  TO NBU that's as
incompatible as having LTO and DLT in the same library.
 
-Jonathan



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We will be getting an expansion cabinet to our scaler 2000 soon.
At the moment we have LTO-2 drives and tapes. When we add the expansion
cabinet we are also going to add 2 LTO-3 drives with a set of LTO-3
tapes. My question is how do I keep LTO-2 tapes going to LTO-2 drives
while the LTO-3 tapes go only to LTO-3 drives. I suspect a combination
of storage units and tape pools but now that we are at NBU6mp4 expired
tapes just return to the

Re: [Veritas-bu] SL8500 Tape Library

2007-04-25 Thread Ambrose, Monte

We use LTO3 tape drives but did have 1 SDLT 600 tape drive installed for legacy 
restore purposes.  It took several months for the STK engineers to get the SDLT 
drive configured properly for operation.  Just got it working about a month or 
so ago.  You might want to ask how many customers are using SDLT 600 in the 
libraries and maybe even get a reference.  It could have just been a glitch 
with our library as well.

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Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 12:13 PM
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] SL8500 Tape Library

We plan to use SDLT 600 tape drives. We may have to expand in order to support 
R & D but they use IBM LTO Libraries and I am wondering how well the SL8500 
works with the different drives and tape formats.

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To: David Turner; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] SL8500 Tape Library

We have 2 of them. What type of tape drives are you going to populate it with?  
What kind of questions do you have?

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] SL8500 Tape Library
I am thinking about purchasing the Storagetek SL8500 Library and I'm wondering 
if anyone out there has any input or experience on these units?

Veritas Netbackup 5.1
Windows Master
4 Windows Media server
3 Netapp Filers

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Cannot configure fibre san on Sun V880

2007-04-25 Thread Blaine Robison

Mike,
Can you run a "luxadm probe" this will tell you what is logging in to the
fabric.

Send the output. 



--- "Sponsler, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Master Server: Sol 10 on Sun v440, Netbackup 6.0 MP4 connected to PX506
> via fibre San 
> Media Server: Sol 8 on Sun v880, Netbackup 6.0 MP4 connected to (same)
> PX506 via fibre San.
> 
> I cannot get my Sol 8 Sun v880 netbackup media server to create the
> /dev/rmt device nodes.  The /devices/st* files do not exist either.
> I ran through the sg.build on everything.  Doing an sgscan on the Sol 8
> media server:
> 
> /dev/sg/c0tw10e002233aafl0: Changer: "Quantum PX500"
> /dev/sg/c0tw10e002233aafl1: Tape (???): "Qauntum SDLT600"
> /dev/sg/c0tw10e002233aafl2: Tape (???): "Qauntum SDLT600"
> 
> No /dev/rmt devices exist for my PX506 drives.
> 
> I do have a stand alone SDLT600 "shoebox" connected via scisi local on
> the v880 that does have /dev/rmt/0* devices.
> 
> When doing a "devfsadm -vc tape"
> I get "invalid st_rdev"
> 
> A reconfiguration reboot doesn't do anything either.
> 
> The PX506 fibre setup works with my Sol 10 master server, and various
> other Sol 8 Media Servers.
> 
> I'm using a QLA 2310 fibre card, and yes it has the Sun F-Code on it.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Cannot configure fibre san on Sun V880

2007-04-25 Thread Paul Keating

unsure of your see your deviceses in cfgparameters...might work fine,
but I ususally do a "cfgadm -al -o show_FCP_dev" which will show if the
FC devices are visable.
You'd want to see
"c#::WWN,LUN# tape connectedconfigured   unknown"
for every tape device, plus an entry for the robot.
 
if you don't have a response from cfgadm for every device, every
sg.build/install and boot -r in the world won't help you.
 
That tell's you your zoning/physical layer stuff is good adn the devices
are responding properly.
then do your sg.build, making sure you have a high enough mt and ml for
the number of devices you have, then the sg.install, then do a sgscan to
see if NBU sees the devicesif you're goo at that point, delete
everything in /dev/rmt, and do the reconfigure reboot.
 
Paul
 
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Master Server: Sol 10 on Sun v440, Netbackup 6.0 MP4 connected
to PX506 via fibre San 
Media Server: Sol 8 on Sun v880, Netbackup 6.0 MP4 connected to
(same) PX506 via fibre San. 

I cannot get my Sol 8 Sun v880 netbackup media server to create
the /dev/rmt device nodes.  The /devices/st* files do not exist
either.

I ran through the sg.build on everything.  Doing an sgscan on
the Sol 8 media server: 

/dev/sg/c0tw10e002233aafl0: Changer: "Quantum PX500" 
/dev/sg/c0tw10e002233aafl1: Tape (???): "Qauntum SDLT600" 
/dev/sg/c0tw10e002233aafl2: Tape (???): "Qauntum SDLT600" 

No /dev/rmt devices exist for my PX506 drives. 

I do have a stand alone SDLT600 "shoebox" connected via scisi
local on the v880 that does have /dev/rmt/0* devices. 

When doing a "devfsadm -vc tape" 
I get "invalid st_rdev" 

A reconfiguration reboot doesn't do anything either. 

The PX506 fibre setup works with my Sol 10 master server, and
various other Sol 8 Media Servers. 

I'm using a QLA 2310 fibre card, and yes it has the Sun F-Code
on it. 

Any ideas? 

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[Veritas-bu] installing 6.0

2007-04-25 Thread Kenneth W Wilkinson

I'm currently on 5.1mp6.

 

I want to do a new install and redetect the drives on the clean install.

 

Is there a method of importing/converting just the catalog over to 6.0
including the db's on the media servers that tells the system when to
expire tapes.

 

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[Veritas-bu] Cannot configure fibre san on Sun V880

2007-04-25 Thread Sponsler, Michael

Master Server: Sol 10 on Sun v440, Netbackup 6.0 MP4 connected to PX506
via fibre San 
Media Server: Sol 8 on Sun v880, Netbackup 6.0 MP4 connected to (same)
PX506 via fibre San.

I cannot get my Sol 8 Sun v880 netbackup media server to create the
/dev/rmt device nodes.  The /devices/st* files do not exist either.
I ran through the sg.build on everything.  Doing an sgscan on the Sol 8
media server:

/dev/sg/c0tw10e002233aafl0: Changer: "Quantum PX500"
/dev/sg/c0tw10e002233aafl1: Tape (???): "Qauntum SDLT600"
/dev/sg/c0tw10e002233aafl2: Tape (???): "Qauntum SDLT600"

No /dev/rmt devices exist for my PX506 drives.

I do have a stand alone SDLT600 "shoebox" connected via scisi local on
the v880 that does have /dev/rmt/0* devices.

When doing a "devfsadm -vc tape"
I get "invalid st_rdev"

A reconfiguration reboot doesn't do anything either.

The PX506 fibre setup works with my Sol 10 master server, and various
other Sol 8 Media Servers.

I'm using a QLA 2310 fibre card, and yes it has the Sun F-Code on it.

Any ideas?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netapp

2007-04-25 Thread Alessandro da Silveira


Ola Silvio,

Perfeito, esta tecnica de utilizar areas montadas com NFS em outras
maquinas funciona sem problema algum, tanto para o backup quanto para o
restore, sem a necessidade de comprar o agente NDMP.

Tenha certeza realmente ele e bem caro e dependendo do tamnho de sua
empresa, realmente o mais recomendado seria esta tecnica, que funciona tao
bem quanto.

Caso necessite de mais informacoes com relacao ao NETAPP, ou mesmo com
relacao ao software de backup VERITAS, fique a vontade.

Grande Abraco meu amigo,

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Ola Alessandro,

A ideia seria montar as areas do Netapp e utilizar o
NetBackup para salvar estas areas NFS. Da mesma forma
restaurar caso precise.
A licenca para uso do NDMP seria um big problem.
A relacao custo beneficio pende para o lado do NDMP
mas tudo depende do quanto esta se disposto a gastar.

  Obrigado,

  Silvio
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> Ola Silvio...agora ficou melhor...hehehehehehehe
>
> Vamos la, sim voce pode estar montado as areas em um
> servidor e estar
> fazendo o backup a partir destas, sem a necessidade
> de estar
> instalando/utilizando um agente NDMP, a desvantagem
> deste tipo de backup e
> que ele fica um pouco lento. Com relacao ao restore
> a mesma coisa voce pode
> estar retornando o backup feito a partir de uma area
> montada sem problema
> algum, sem a necessidade tambem de estar
> instalando/utilizando um agente
> NDMP.
>
> Caso necessite de mais informacoes com relacao ao
> NETAPP, ou mesmo com
> relacao ao software de backup VERITAS, fique a
> vontade.
>
> Grande Araco meu amigo,
>
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> > Ola,
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> > Creio que agora poderei me expressar melhor.
> > Gostaria de fazer o backup de areas a partir do
> > NETAPP. Poderia montar as areas em uma maquina e
> fazer
> > backup dessas areas montadas? Assim sem instalar o
> > NDMP.
> > Se sim, posso retornar o backup a partir da area
> > montada?
> >
> > Nao conhece bem o NETAPP, sei que se trata de um
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> > Obrigado,
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> > Silvio
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Re: [Veritas-bu] SL8500 Tape Library [NC]

2007-04-25 Thread misha . pavlov

SL8500 is a BigBrother of SL500, I beleive.

I have SL500 with 8 LTO2 drives here for 3 years and haven't had a 
*single* issue with it. 
No stucked or droped tapes, no issues with robotics ... works like a 
clock.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] SL8500 Tape Library

2007-04-25 Thread Hall, Christian N.

Same here. Alot of our problems were with the robotics. All is well
now..

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We have three SL8500's in our environment.  They have been in service
for about two years. 
Our experience had been good. We just upgraded from Netbackup 5.1 to
Netbackup 6.0MP4, and 
there were no problems with the libraries due to the upgrade.  We have
had a few hardware problems 
with the Robots in the beginning, but that has settled down now.  Most
is normal, such as replacing 
tape drives, etc. 

 Do you have any specific questions.? 

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Windows Master 
4 Windows Media server 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] SL8500 Tape Library

2007-04-25 Thread ckstehman

We have three SL8500's in our environment.  They have been in service for 
about two years.
Our experience had been good. We just upgraded from Netbackup 5.1 to 
Netbackup 6.0MP4, and
there were no problems with the libraries due to the upgrade.  We have had 
a few hardware problems
with the Robots in the beginning, but that has settled down now.  Most is 
normal, such as replacing
tape drives, etc.

 Do you have any specific questions.?


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Re: [Veritas-bu] tpautoconf [NC]

2007-04-25 Thread misha . pavlov

What is the output u get from running it ?
I think -show switch is the same as -t on NIX .
In this case, the short answer is "Both".
"/usr/openv/volmgr/bin/tpautoconf -t" gets the list of NBU configured 
devices from /usr/openv/volmgr/database/ltidevs and then talk to those 
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Is it on the OS level or a NBU level?


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Re: [Veritas-bu] SL8500 Tape Library

2007-04-25 Thread David Turner

We plan to use SDLT 600 tape drives. We may have to expand in order to
support R & D but they use IBM LTO Libraries and I am wondering how well
the SL8500 works with the different drives and tape formats.

 



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We have 2 of them. What type of tape drives are you going to populate it
with?  What kind of questions do you have? 

 



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I am thinking about purchasing the Storagetek SL8500 Library and I'm
wondering if anyone out there has any input or experience on these
units?

 

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3 Netapp Filers

 

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP with EMC Clariion

2007-04-25 Thread Jeff Lightner

We haven't done NDMP with Clariion but we DO use a disk storage unit we
created for backing up one of our Oracle Databases via RMAN and
Netbackup.

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP with EMC Clariion

 Doesn't look like ndmp is an option without using emc's backup software
and some more of their hardware.

Even though EMC say's not to do this, I may play with mounting disk to
both the original server and the backup server at the same time,  change
the backup policy to not reset archive bit and see if I break something.
I have a spare 500gb fiber attached drive to play with on my master
server,  will attach it to my media server see if I trash the drive with
some sort of script doing continuous file writes while I do a backup.
Worse case is I have to rebuild the drive.

Doug Preston
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Land America Tax and Flood Services
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We have a Clariion, but currently do backups via the server that mounts
the LUN.  I've thought about NDMP, but never dug into it.

Which Clariion do you have?  We're running a CX500.  I'm not even sure
if we have NDMP for it, if it's licensed, etc.

Jason 

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> 
> Is anyone doing NDMP backups with NBU 6.0 MP4 and EMC Clariion SAN 
> device?  I am pushing for an NDMP license to backup the 24TB  of disk 
> so I don't need to pull most of it across the lan.  I have 4 san media

> servers that backup 12TB buit the other 12 are spread across a lot of 
> machines and I don't want to keep pulling across the lan due to there 
> is not enough hours in a day to complete backups and duplications 
> already and now they want full daily backups of all allocated disk on 
> the clariion.
> 
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> Because the NDMP server is in charge of serializing the data, it has 
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> 
> I believe for Netapp you'll use
> 
> SET EXCLUDE=*.chkpnt
> 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] SL8500 Tape Library

2007-04-25 Thread Justin Piszcz

I have a couple as well- same, what are your questions?  Current issue 
we're having now is rail-alignment issues-- old firmware causes this. 
OVerall though they are fairly robust as long as you order it fully 
redundant.

On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Hall, Christian N. wrote:

> We have 2 of them. What type of tape drives are you going to populate it
> with?  What kind of questions do you have?
>
> 
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
> Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 2:06 PM
> To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: [Veritas-bu] SL8500 Tape Library
>
>
>
> I am thinking about purchasing the Storagetek SL8500 Library and I'm
> wondering if anyone out there has any input or experience on these
> units?
>
>
>
> Veritas Netbackup 5.1
>
> Windows Master
>
> 4 Windows Media server
>
> 3 Netapp Filers
>
>
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>
>
> thanks
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Re: [Veritas-bu] SL8500 Tape Library

2007-04-25 Thread Hall, Christian N.

We have 2 of them. What type of tape drives are you going to populate it
with?  What kind of questions do you have? 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] SL8500 Tape Library

I am thinking about purchasing the Storagetek SL8500 Library and I'm
wondering if anyone out there has any input or experience on these
units?

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Windows Master

4 Windows Media server

3 Netapp Filers

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Exchange 2003 Mailbox Backups

2007-04-25 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)


Paul
The post was talking about backups of the IS / BLB of mailboxes.

Restore sounds ok for that size! Is this over fibre (Media) or Network (LAN
client)

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator

EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)
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You apparantly have rather small IS's
Best case I can restore a small 1/2 TB IS in 7-8 hoursBEST case.
Depending on the user, that may have blown the SLA by 4 times.


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Mike
I just posted something similar, but take a look at this link..

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/823176

I personally do not see the need for BLB (brick level backups) of Mailboxes.
The performance you get for the IS is very good - BLB does not surprise me
too much and I am not a fan of BLB at all.

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We've just upgraded our Exchange server and one of the improvements was to
split the information store into 3 storage groups (only 2 contain data that
needs to be backed up though).  Each storage group has 2 stores.  Does
anyone have any suggestions on how I can use this to improve my mailbox
backup performance?  An Information store backup of about 95GB takes about
45 minutes.  The mailbox backups take about 20-30 hours.  Because of that I
only do a mailbox backup once a month.  I was thinking about trying
concurrent backups ... but the Exchange administrator does not think we'll
get any better throughput but what if I backup up one store every weekend?
How would I address that store in the policy?  I use 5.1 MP4 and currently
the Mailbox backup policy Directive set is set to MS_Exchange_2000 and the
Pathname or directive is Microsoft Exchange Mailboxes:\. 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP with EMC Clariion

2007-04-25 Thread Preston, Douglas L

 Doesn't look like ndmp is an option without using emc's backup software
and some more of their hardware.

Even though EMC say's not to do this, I may play with mounting disk to
both the original server and the backup server at the same time,  change
the backup policy to not reset archive bit and see if I break something.
I have a spare 500gb fiber attached drive to play with on my master
server,  will attach it to my media server see if I trash the drive with
some sort of script doing continuous file writes while I do a backup.
Worse case is I have to rebuild the drive.


Doug Preston
Systems Engineer
Land America Tax and Flood Services
Phone 626-339-5221 Ext 104
Email  [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 5:33 AM
To: Preston, Douglas L; Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NDMP with EMC Clariion

We have a Clariion, but currently do backups via the server that mounts
the LUN.  I've thought about NDMP, but never dug into it.

Which Clariion do you have?  We're running a CX500.  I'm not even sure
if we have NDMP for it, if it's licensed, etc.

Jason 

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> Subject: [Veritas-bu] NDMP with EMC Clariion
> 
> Is anyone doing NDMP backups with NBU 6.0 MP4 and EMC Clariion SAN 
> device?  I am pushing for an NDMP license to backup the 24TB  of disk 
> so I don't need to pull most of it across the lan.  I have 4 san media

> servers that backup 12TB buit the other 12 are spread across a lot of 
> machines and I don't want to keep pulling across the lan due to there 
> is not enough hours in a day to complete backups and duplications 
> already and now they want full daily backups of all allocated disk on 
> the clariion.
> 
> Doug Preston
> Systems Engineer
> Land America Tax and Flood Services
> Phone 626-339-5221 Ext 104
> Email  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP Exclude List
> 
> > Can someone tell me how to exclude certain file types
> within an NDMP
> > policy? Specifically, I would like to exclude all checkpoint files
> > (*.chkpnt)
> 
> Because the NDMP server is in charge of serializing the data, it has 
> to be the one to exclude files.  So this function depends on your NDMP

> server.
> 
> > We are running Netbackup 6.0 MP4 on Solaris 10.
> 
> What's the NDMP machine?
> 
> I believe for Netapp you'll use
> 
> SET EXCLUDE=*.chkpnt
> 
> in the list.  See the NDMP admin guide page 37/38 for using SET in the

> backup list (but not any vendor-specific examples of exluding).
> 
> See the OnTAP manuals for the syntax that is allowed when excluding 
> files (assuming you're using a netapp).
> 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netapp

2007-04-25 Thread Alessandro da Silveira

Ola Silvio...agora ficou melhor...hehehehehehehe

Vamos la, sim voce pode estar montado as areas em um servidor e estar
fazendo o backup a partir destas, sem a necessidade de estar
instalando/utilizando um agente NDMP, a desvantagem deste tipo de backup e
que ele fica um pouco lento. Com relacao ao restore a mesma coisa voce pode
estar retornando o backup feito a partir de uma area montada sem problema
algum, sem a necessidade tambem de estar instalando/utilizando um agente
NDMP.

Caso necessite de mais informacoes com relacao ao NETAPP, ou mesmo com
relacao ao software de backup VERITAS, fique a vontade.

Grande Araco meu amigo,

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On 4/25/07, Silvio Cesar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Ola,

Creio que agora poderei me expressar melhor.
Gostaria de fazer o backup de areas a partir do
NETAPP. Poderia montar as areas em uma maquina e fazer
backup dessas areas montadas? Assim sem instalar o
NDMP.
Se sim, posso retornar o backup a partir da area
montada?

Nao conhece bem o NETAPP, sei que se trata de um
backup em disco apenas.

Obrigado,

Silvio

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>
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>
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> Thanks a Lot and Regards,
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[Veritas-bu] SL8500 Tape Library

2007-04-25 Thread David Turner

I am thinking about purchasing the Storagetek SL8500 Library and I'm
wondering if anyone out there has any input or experience on these
units?

 

Veritas Netbackup 5.1 

Windows Master

4 Windows Media server

3 Netapp Filers

 

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP with EMC Clariion

2007-04-25 Thread Paul Keating



-- 


So let me get this right...

You can pull 3 streams of file level CIFS data over GigE faster than
your filer can write to tape over fiber HBA?
I suppose I could if nothing else was running, but sending the Filer to
tape using NDMP means my network IO is free to pull in data from Network
attached clients.

Not to mention eliminating contention with clients for bandwidth on my
filer's VIFs.

Paul

> -Original Message-
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> Of Spearman, David
> Sent: April 25, 2007 7:29 AM
> To: Preston, Douglas L; Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP with EMC Clariion
> 
> 
> Douglas,
> 
> For what it's worth. We do NDMP with virtual cif servers on an emc
> celerra (clariion disk space of course). Does the throughput increase?
> Yes and no. Sure, it shoots the data down the line faster however NDMP
> is a single threaded job. One NDMP job, one tape unit. In truth I can
> multiplex data across the wire and get three jobs going to 
> one tape unit
> with just about the same speed. We have no choice since the 
> Centerra is
> ndmp only. 
> 
> David Spearman
> County of Henrico, Va.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Client Directed Backups and Restores

2007-04-25 Thread Jeff Lightner

You think THAT's bad.  I once had an older relative tell me they let the phone 
company disconnect the phone because the phone company kept letting the husband 
charge long distance calls back to the home phone.   In the wife's opinion the 
phone company shouldn't have allowed the husband (in whose name the phone was) 
to do this so it was the phone company's fault the bill wasn't paid.

I never had much use for the monopoly AT&T but in that one instance I couldn't 
help but think the company had been wronged.

Amazing that AT&T like T2 is reforming from the parts that were blasted off 
years ago.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Exchange 2003 Mailbox Backups

2007-04-25 Thread Paul Keating

You apparantly have rather small IS's
Best case I can restore a small 1/2 TB IS in 7-8 hoursBEST case.
Depending on the user, that may have blown the SLA by 4 times.


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Mike
I just posted something similar, but take a look at this link..

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/823176

I personally do not see the need for BLB (brick level backups) of
Mailboxes. The performance you get for the IS is very good - BLB does
not surprise me too much and I am not a fan of BLB at all.

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We've just upgraded our Exchange server and one of the improvements was
to split the information store into 3 storage groups (only 2 contain
data that needs to be backed up though).  Each storage group has 2
stores.  Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can use this to
improve my mailbox backup performance?  An Information store backup of
about 95GB takes about 45 minutes.  The mailbox backups take about 20-30
hours.  Because of that I only do a mailbox backup once a month.  I was
thinking about trying concurrent backups ... but the Exchange
administrator does not think we'll get any better throughput but what if
I backup up one store every weekend?  How would I address that store in
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Client Directed Backups and Restores

2007-04-25 Thread Paul Keating

"You didn't stop me from doing it, so it's your fault"

I love that one.

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> How do I remove the ability to initiate backups and restores from the
> client level? I have some not so smart people doing 
> development and they
> just did a restore (client directed), destroyed all of their 
> most recent
> data by restoring older data, and tried to blame me for it
> 
> 
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> 
>  
> -cj
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Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO-2 LTO-3 mix

2007-04-25 Thread Spearman, David

Thanks everyone for your replies, 

David Spearman
County of Henrico

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Two ways...buy the partitioning license for your i2K and have a
separate logical library for LTO2's and LTO3's

:-)

Or you can do it based on media type.

HCART2 Media (LTO2)

HCART3 Media (LTO3)

HCART2 Storage Units 

HCART3 Storage Units

NBU will only mount HCART2 media in an HCART2 storage unit and
so on.

The media can reside in the same volume pool - that won't
matter, what matters is the media type and storage unit type.

david

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We will be getting an expansion cabinet to our scaler
2000 soon. At the moment we have LTO-2 drives and tapes. When we add the
expansion cabinet we are also going to add 2 LTO-3 drives with a set of
LTO-3 tapes. My question is how do I keep LTO-2 tapes going to LTO-2
drives while the LTO-3 tapes go only to LTO-3 drives. I suspect a
combination of storage units and tape pools but now that we are at
NBU6mp4 expired tapes just return to the scratch pool which would make
them available to anything.

present setup

W2K3 master/media with sso/ndmp to scaler 2000 (5 tape
drives allowed)

W2K3 media server sso to scaler 2000 and DSSU (4 tape
drives allowed)

W2K3 san media server sso to scaler 2000 

David Spearman

County of Henrico

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Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO-2 LTO-3 mix

2007-04-25 Thread David Chapa

Two ways...buy the partitioning license for your i2K and have a separate
logical library for LTO2's and LTO3's

 

:-)

 

Or you can do it based on media type.

 

HCART2 Media (LTO2)

HCART3 Media (LTO3)

 

HCART2 Storage Units 

HCART3 Storage Units

 

NBU will only mount HCART2 media in an HCART2 storage unit and so on.

 

The media can reside in the same volume pool - that won't matter, what
matters is the media type and storage unit type.

 

david

 



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Spearman, David
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We will be getting an expansion cabinet to our scaler 2000 soon.
At the moment we have LTO-2 drives and tapes. When we add the expansion
cabinet we are also going to add 2 LTO-3 drives with a set of LTO-3
tapes. My question is how do I keep LTO-2 tapes going to LTO-2 drives
while the LTO-3 tapes go only to LTO-3 drives. I suspect a combination
of storage units and tape pools but now that we are at NBU6mp4 expired
tapes just return to the scratch pool which would make them available to
anything.

 

present setup

 

W2K3 master/media with sso/ndmp to scaler 2000 (5 tape drives
allowed)

W2K3 media server sso to scaler 2000 and DSSU (4 tape drives
allowed)

W2K3 san media server sso to scaler 2000 

 

David Spearman

County of Henrico

 

 



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Re: [Veritas-bu] tpautoconf

2007-04-25 Thread Greenberg, Katherine \(ISD, IT\)

I believe it gets it from however many devices are set up in st and
sg.conf files and the devices don't even need to be configured to the
O/S and will come back with a c*t*l* configuration as opposed to
/dev/rmt.

If you run /usr/openv/volmgr/bin/goodies/scan -tape the information
should be the same, just more of it.

And what is the show switch? I tried it on my server and it doesn't do
anything. I usually run with a -t -v.

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Can anyone tell me where the "tpautoconf -show" gets it device
information from?

Is it on the OS level or a NBU level?


I believe it is on the NBU device database, but I would to be correct.


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Client Directed Backups and Restores

2007-04-25 Thread Jones, Courtenay

Thanks everyone! 


Regards,

 
-cj
Courtenay Jones


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jones, Courtenay;
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Client Directed Backups and Restores

On 5.1 at least, the global setting is at the top of the "Client 
Attributes" settings i.e. in the NetBackup Administration console, go 
to

  Host Properties - Master Server - 

In the Master server Properties window, go to 'Client Attributes'

At 6:43 am -0400 25/4/07, Bobby Williams wrote:
>On the master, it is set via the client attributes.  It is a per client
>setting.  It can also be a global setting, but I don't know the
parameter
>(it is not on the GUI settings).
>
>You can let them browse, but not restore or neither or both.
>
>
>
>
>Bobby Williams
>2205 Peterson Drive
>Chattanooga, Tennessee  37421
>423-296-8200
>
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>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jones,
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>To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
>Subject: [Veritas-bu] Client Directed Backups and Restores
>
>Enviroment:
>Master/Media: W2K3/NBU6.0MP4/LTO3
>Clients: HPUX/Itanium/11.23
>
>How do I remove the ability to initiate backups and restores from the
client
>level? I have some not so smart people doing development and they just
did a
>restore (client directed), destroyed all of their most recent data by
>restoring older data, and tried to blame me for it
>
>
>Regards,
>
>
>-cj
>Courtenay Jones
>UNIX Systems Engineer, Raleigh Technology Centre
>
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Re: [Veritas-bu] tpautoconf

2007-04-25 Thread christopher . x . costa


Can anyone tell me where the "tpautoconf -show" gets it device information
from?

Is it on the OS level or a NBU level?


I believe it is on the NBU device database, but I would to be correct.


Thanks











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Re: [Veritas-bu] Client Directed Backups and Restores

2007-04-25 Thread Chris Freemantle

On 5.1 at least, the global setting is at the top of the "Client 
Attributes" settings i.e. in the NetBackup Administration console, go 
to

  Host Properties - Master Server - 

In the Master server Properties window, go to 'Client Attributes'

At 6:43 am -0400 25/4/07, Bobby Williams wrote:
>On the master, it is set via the client attributes.  It is a per client
>setting.  It can also be a global setting, but I don't know the parameter
>(it is not on the GUI settings).
>
>You can let them browse, but not restore or neither or both.
>
>
>
>
>Bobby Williams
>2205 Peterson Drive
>Chattanooga, Tennessee  37421
>423-296-8200
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jones,
>Courtenay
>Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 5:54 PM
>To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
>Subject: [Veritas-bu] Client Directed Backups and Restores
>
>Enviroment:
>Master/Media: W2K3/NBU6.0MP4/LTO3
>Clients: HPUX/Itanium/11.23
>
>How do I remove the ability to initiate backups and restores from the client
>level? I have some not so smart people doing development and they just did a
>restore (client directed), destroyed all of their most recent data by
>restoring older data, and tried to blame me for it
>
>
>Regards,
>
>
>-cj
>Courtenay Jones
>UNIX Systems Engineer, Raleigh Technology Centre
>
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Chris Freemantle
Data Manager
Wellcome Trust Centre for Neuroimaging

Tel. +44 (0)20 7833 7472 reception
Tel. +44 (0)20 7833 7496 direct
Fax  +44 (0)20 7813 1420

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape counter missing

2007-04-25 Thread Chris Freemantle

thanks, but it doesn't work from the console either.


At 10:44 am +0200 24/4/07, Schindelasch, Frerk wrote:
>Are you logged on directly on the Windows console? RDP will not work.
>
>-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
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>Betreff: [Veritas-bu] Tape counter missing
>
>I have no performance meter tape counters or 
>NBConsole 'Drive Use History'. I think I've 
>satisfied all the requirements. Suggestions 
>anyone?
>
>I've recently installed the Veritas drivers, 
>having been using HP drivers. I've ticked 
>'enable performance data collection', I do have 
>permission to read the registry and I've looked 
>when jobs are actively transferring data.
>
>I'm running NBU 5.1 MP6 under Windows server 
>2003 service pack 2, connected to an HP LTO-3 
>drive in an Overland Neo 4000 library. The 
>master server is the media server. The tape 
>driver is the Symantec driver dated 12.1.07 
>version 5.0.25.0 in file 
>.../system32/DRIVERS/halfinch.sys
>
>TIA

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Curious Log Entry

2007-04-25 Thread Weber, Philip

I believe you can get this when resources (memory?) are overloaded on
the master/media.  Can't be more specific as only seen it very rarely &
so haven't investigated thoroughly.

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> 
> 
> 4/23/2007 11:21:15 PM masterA client1 Error   83645   Backup
> backup of client client1 exited with status 150 (termination 
> requested by
> administrator)
> 
> How do you end up with a 150 when no Admins are here?  Anyone 
> seen this one?
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[Veritas-bu] ?

2007-04-25 Thread Caleb Guinn

When connecting to master server 6.0 mp4 from Windows client Java
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Server Jobs Remain Queued

2007-04-25 Thread Greenberg, Katherine \(ISD, IT\)

Did you bounce NetBackup after you added the storage unit?

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All
Win2k3 _ NBU5.1+MP2 - Master and 15 media servers

2 New SAN Media Servers implemented - the Device Wizard detected
drives+robot and ran through the wizard with no problems.

Policy created. storage unit selected is the san media server.

For any jobs using this storage unit, they stay queued.

If I perform a backup using the MASTER Storage unit, backup runs
straight away and completes fine.

any ideas on this :-(
Thanks

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Server Jobs Remain Queued

2007-04-25 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)


Yes Sort of gathered that But still does not work!

Any other ideas?

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Think you have to restart the services/daemons on the master, to get the new

storage units in use.

Regards
Michael

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> All
> Win2k3 _ NBU5.1+MP2 - Master and 15 media servers
>  
> 2 New SAN Media Servers implemented - the Device Wizard detected
drives+robot and ran through the wizard with no problems.
>  
> Policy created. storage unit selected is the san media server.
>  
> For any jobs using this storage unit, they stay queued.
>  
> If I perform a backup using the MASTER Storage unit, backup runs
> straight
away and completes fine.
>  
> any ideas on this :-(
> Thanks
>  
> Regards
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Server Jobs Remain Queued

2007-04-25 Thread ida3248b

Think you have to restart the services/daemons on the master, to get the new 
storage units in use.

Regards
Michael

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> All
> Win2k3 _ NBU5.1+MP2 - Master and 15 media servers
>  
> 2 New SAN Media Servers implemented - the Device Wizard detected 
drives+robot and ran through the wizard with no problems.
>  
> Policy created. storage unit selected is the san media server.
>  
> For any jobs using this storage unit, they stay queued.
>  
> If I perform a backup using the MASTER Storage unit, backup runs straight 
away and completes fine.
>  
> any ideas on this :-(
> Thanks
>  
> Regards
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[Veritas-bu] Media Server Jobs Remain Queued

2007-04-25 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)


All
Win2k3 _ NBU5.1+MP2 - Master and 15 media servers
 
2 New SAN Media Servers implemented - the Device Wizard detected
drives+robot and ran through the wizard with no problems.
 
Policy created. storage unit selected is the san media server.
 
For any jobs using this storage unit, they stay queued.
 
If I perform a backup using the MASTER Storage unit, backup runs straight
away and completes fine.
 
any ideas on this :-(
Thanks
 

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP with EMC Clariion

2007-04-25 Thread Brooks, Jason

We have a Clariion, but currently do backups via the server that mounts the
LUN.  I've thought about NDMP, but never dug into it.

Which Clariion do you have?  We're running a CX500.  I'm not even sure if we
have NDMP for it, if it's licensed, etc.

Jason 

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> Is anyone doing NDMP backups with NBU 6.0 MP4 and EMC 
> Clariion SAN device?  I am pushing for an NDMP license to 
> backup the 24TB  of disk so I don't need to pull most of it 
> across the lan.  I have 4 san media servers that backup 12TB 
> buit the other 12 are spread across a lot of machines and I 
> don't want to keep pulling across the lan due to there is not 
> enough hours in a day to complete backups and duplications 
> already and now they want full daily backups of all allocated 
> disk on the clariion.
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> SET EXCLUDE=*.chkpnt
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP with EMC Clariion

2007-04-25 Thread Spearman, David

Douglas,

For what it's worth. We do NDMP with virtual cif servers on an emc
celerra (clariion disk space of course). Does the throughput increase?
Yes and no. Sure, it shoots the data down the line faster however NDMP
is a single threaded job. One NDMP job, one tape unit. In truth I can
multiplex data across the wire and get three jobs going to one tape unit
with just about the same speed. We have no choice since the Centerra is
ndmp only. 

David Spearman
County of Henrico, Va.

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Is anyone doing NDMP backups with NBU 6.0 MP4 and EMC Clariion SAN
device?  I am pushing for an NDMP license to backup the 24TB  of disk so
I don't need to pull most of it across the lan.  I have 4 san media
servers that backup 12TB buit the other 12 are spread across a lot of
machines and I don't want to keep pulling across the lan due to there is
not enough hours in a day to complete backups and duplications already
and now they want full daily backups of all allocated disk on the
clariion.

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> Can someone tell me how to exclude certain file types within an NDMP
> policy? Specifically, I would like to exclude all checkpoint files
> (*.chkpnt)

Because the NDMP server is in charge of serializing the data, it has to
be the one to exclude files.  So this function depends on your NDMP
server.

> We are running Netbackup 6.0 MP4 on Solaris 10.

What's the NDMP machine?

I believe for Netapp you'll use

SET EXCLUDE=*.chkpnt

in the list.  See the NDMP admin guide page 37/38 for using SET in the
backup list (but not any vendor-specific examples of exluding).

See the OnTAP manuals for the syntax that is allowed when excluding
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[Veritas-bu] VCB netbackup integration problem

2007-04-25 Thread ida3248b

Hi 

I don't get the full VM mounted when I'm using the VCB netbackup integration 
module. In the pre_ log I get this:
[2007-04-25 11:54:40.699 'BaseLibs' 4492 warning] [Vmdb_Unset] Unsetting 
unknown path: /vmomi/

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Client Directed Backups and Restores

2007-04-25 Thread Bobby Williams

On the master, it is set via the client attributes.  It is a per client
setting.  It can also be a global setting, but I don't know the parameter
(it is not on the GUI settings).

You can let them browse, but not restore or neither or both. 




Bobby Williams
2205 Peterson Drive
Chattanooga, Tennessee  37421
423-296-8200

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Enviroment:
Master/Media: W2K3/NBU6.0MP4/LTO3
Clients: HPUX/Itanium/11.23

How do I remove the ability to initiate backups and restores from the client
level? I have some not so smart people doing development and they just did a
restore (client directed), destroyed all of their most recent data by
restoring older data, and tried to blame me for it


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-cj
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Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO-2 LTO-3 mix

2007-04-25 Thread Bobby Williams

You can't change the bar code rules like that in mid stream.  It would
change the media id of every tape already in the library and put every
existing tape in scratch.
 
You are going to either have to partition the drives in separate partitions
(Yuk), or just pick your default tape type and add all of the other types
manually (not a big deal).  Existing tapes don't use the bar code rules
anyway, they are already known.  It is only NEW to the robot tapes that need
to have a bar code rule.
 
I have 2 i2K's with both LTO-3 and LTO-2.  No big deal.  I have them in the
same partition.  I use the LTO-3's mostly for tape to tape duplication for
offsite (LTO-2 duplicated to LTO-3 works great).  Most of the clients can't
push data fast enough to feed the LTO-3 tapes.  (Yes, I do multiplex some
mid range x3 to feed tapes data).  I use Staging disks to catch the really
slow ones and do disk to tape staging to the LTO-3 tapes.  If you put the
LTO-3's in their own partition, you could not use any tape duplication
between partitions.
 
Another major headache that I have at a site with 2 separate libraries (both
ADIC 1k's) is when one runs out of media, everything fails with 96 errors
and then moves to the other physical library.  Not a big issue until failure
stats are looked at.
 



Bobby Williams 
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Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 10:24 PM
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO-2 LTO-3 mix


If you do this you need to take part of your six digit barcode range and
dedicate it to the particular media type.  
 
It's sad that Netbackup doesn't support proper regexps in the barcode rules
so that the 'L2', 'L3' (presumably) 'L4' last two digits of the barcode can
be used to select the media type.  We've had a feature request in for years
for this and it's gone nowhere (unless 6.x does it and our rep hasn't
mentioned it).
 
  why's there no feedback on feature requests - even when they do make
it into a release you're left to scrabble round to see if it made it in
there.  

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Use barcode rules and media types.  LTO2 media can be hcart2 and LTO3 can be
hcart3 (I think hcart stands for Half-Inch Cartridge.)  NBU will never put a
hcart2 tape into an hcart3 tape device.  TO NBU that's as incompatible as
having LTO and DLT in the same library.
 
-Jonathan

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We will be getting an expansion cabinet to our scaler 2000 soon. At the
moment we have LTO-2 drives and tapes. When we add the expansion cabinet we
are also going to add 2 LTO-3 drives with a set of LTO-3 tapes. My question
is how do I keep LTO-2 tapes going to LTO-2 drives while the LTO-3 tapes go
only to LTO-3 drives. I suspect a combination of storage units and tape
pools but now that we are at NBU6mp4 expired tapes just return to the
scratch pool which would make them available to anything.
 
present setup
 
W2K3 master/media with sso/ndmp to scaler 2000 (5 tape drives allowed)
W2K3 media server sso to scaler 2000 and DSSU (4 tape drives allowed)
W2K3 san media server sso to scaler 2000 
 
David Spearman
County of Henrico
 
 

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