Re: [Veritas-bu] Question for the list members?

[Curtis Preston]

(Perhaps I should wait until I see what others think, but I'm on a plane and 
have a few minutes, so I thought I'd reply.)

I'm not sure if I'd call myself a "non-associated web forum".  
Backupcentral.com hosts the FAQ for this list and has for several years.  
There's also been a long-running association between myself and many other 
members on the list, including the list owner.  Finally, the mirroring was done 
with Doug's knowledge and blessing.

My reason for mirroring was to help strengthen the list, not to weaken it.  
Please read on.

First, good things:

1. It provides, IMHO, the best interface to an email archive that I've ever 
seen.  Try full text searches there vs any other mailing list archive and I 
think you'll be quite pleased.  ( http://www.backupcentral.com/phpBB2 ).  One 
really cool thing about the interface is that all posts with the same subject 
are threaded together in a single page.  Again, while this may sound similar to 
what you've seen before -- trust me it's not.

2. Since members of backupcentral.com can post to the forum via the web and 
have the posts go to the list, it provides another interface to the list -- 
especially for those who don't want to subscribe to a mailing list that can 
generate a hundred messages a day.  The more interfaces to this community we 
have, the better.  (I could have started my own forum and not connected to the 
list.  That splits the community, and I didn't want to do that.)

3. The popularity of backupcentral.com also increases the chance that someone 
using google will find the answer they're looking for without having to post a 
question.

4. Hopefully this now-tighter relationship between the list and backupcentral 
will encourage people to help us keep the FAQ more up to date, and that is a 
Good Thing.  For those who are curious, it's been converted into MediaWiki 
format to make it easier for everyone to update.  PLEASE come join the party 
and help us to update it.

As to potential concerns, I can think of a few, and I believe we've addressed 
them.

1. You'll notice that when a message is imported, the poster is listed as 
"Firstname Lastname," not his/her email address.  This was done with security 
in mind.  I have no desire to give anyone another place to access to your email 
addresses.  I'd say that my interface is much less of a threat to your online 
identity than the "real" mailing list archive.

2. "Non-member" posts.  Although we tried a number of different methods, we 
were forced to have posts from the forum show up as a generic email address on 
the list.  The person is free to have a signature or identify themselves in 
some other way, but the email address will be anonymized on the list.  BUT in 
order to do that, they'll have to have a backupcentral user ID.  If someone 
ever abused the anonymity, you can figure out who they are in a second by going 
to the forum.  If necessary, I can then ban that user from backupcentral.


---
W. Curtis Preston
Author of O'Reilly's Backup & Recovery and Using SANs and NAS
VP Data Protection
GlassHouse Technologies


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How do other's (admin?) feel about the list being mirrored on a
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Re: [Veritas-bu] New technote for Windows NetBackup Masters

[Curtis Preston]

>First, that is not all the guy said

Yes, it was.  Anything more than that you read into it.

>and yes if a virus or random act of
>file deletion removed bpcd you'd be thanking your lucky stars MSI put
it
>back for you, service restarts and all.

Sorry, gonna have to beg to differ there.  I like the first part -- not
the second part.  I'll decide when my backup service stop and start,
thank you.

>Further, this all implies that
>"stupid" windows admins delete their application directories / files on
>purpose / for fun / because we've got nothing better to do.

Oh, give me a break.  I'd assume a good Windows person would be aware of
this feature and wouldn't do such a thing.  BUT, if someone deletes a
file in c:\program files\symantec\netbackup without knowing what it is,
they shouldn't be allowed at the keyboard. It's got nothing to do with
what OS they're used to.

>Secondly, you bad mouthed VBScript, a language you obviously do not

No I didn't.  Just like the "stupid" comment above, you're just looking
for a way to be insulted.  Look at his post and my post.  He said:

>Is there an easier way to grab this information?  And by easier, I mean
>something that VBScript could use?  Without awk here, I'm dead.

The original poster said that.  Not me. I took that to mean that
vbscript couldn't use that output.  And, no, I don't know vbscript, but
I don't think I was slamming it when I said:

>If vbscript is so limited it can't handle the output you displayed, 
>this is only the first of many roadblocks you will encounter.  
>If you're going to script on a Windows box you've got to 
>install and learn perl.  

I'm done arguing too.  I'm tired of defending myself against things I
didn't actually do.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Question for the list members? [NC]

[misha . pavlov]

This list and many other Usenet lists are already archived on few sites 
and WEB2Netnews gateways.
So I personally do not thinks another way to access the list would be a 
bad thing. 
Afterall, isn't Usenet a "public domain" anyway :-)

P.S. "non-associated"  with what ?




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Re: [Veritas-bu] unable to get a storage unit for client [NC]

[misha . pavlov]

Assuming that everything else was checked and found to be in order  and 
from what I know, it is a flaw in the device selection code.
Once I hit it, the only way out is to restart master and all media servers 
to re-register the drives.

*Make dure you have the latest MP installed.* 
MP4, MP5 did address this and the issue happens much less often for me.

I've being hitting and hunting this one for past 2 years from time to time 
and had few tickets opened and worked on.





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NB 5.1 Running on Solaris.

On 5/1/07, Whelan, Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
 
What version
Patrick Whelan
NetBackup Specialist
Architect & Engineering
+44 20 7863 5243
 
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From: i node
Sent: Tue 01/05/2007 6:34 PM
To: veritas-bu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] unable to get a storage unit for client

 
I have a case open with NetBackup support that that they've not been able 
to help me with.  Thought I'd give you good people a shot at it:
1.) We are getting these messages repeating in bpsched log: "unable to get 
a storage unit for client".  Most of the time the messages eventually stop 
and the backup job runs.
 
2.) We sometimes need to recycle NetBackup when jobs begin to queue and 
never become active. 
 
3.) We have jobs that hang. They remain active, but last activity shown by 
bperror is many hours old, and number of files or kilobytes backed up does 
not progress. 
 
Not sure if 2 & 3 are related to 1 or not.  Any ideas? 
 
 


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Re: [Veritas-bu] unable to get a storage unit for client

[i node]

NB 5.1 Running on Solaris.

On 5/1/07, Whelan, Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


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I have a case open with NetBackup support that that they've not been able
to help me with.  Thought I'd give you good people a shot at it:
1.) We are getting these messages repeating in bpsched log: "unable to get
a storage unit for client".  Most of the time the messages eventually stop
and the backup job runs.

2.) We sometimes need to recycle NetBackup when jobs begin to queue and
never become active.

3.) We have jobs that hang. They remain active, but last activity shown by
bperror is many hours old, and number of files or kilobytes backed up does
not progress.

Not sure if 2 & 3 are related to 1 or not.  Any ideas?





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[Veritas-bu] Re: NDMP restoration paths

[netbackup-forum]

Darren,

This would be consistent with the behavior that we have implemented with our 
server.  In the previous post (several minutes ago) you can see that Veritas 
sends an "original_path" nlist value that contains the path relative from the 
saved filesystem.  We fell back on simply adding this original path name to the 
end of the specified destination directory.

-- Joe

>I think when I've done it, it has restored the entire path down
> from the backups point.  So the name of the volume isn't there,
> but the path under the volume is.
>
> I'm sure in a test I did with one file, it restored four or five
> directories to contain that file.
> -- 
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[Veritas-bu] Re: NDMP restoration paths

[netbackup-forum]

So I can confirm that the NDMP behavior is different (ie, recreating the 
absolute pathname) than normal restores?

We are in the process of developing an NDMP server and noticed that Veritas 
sends ambiguous restoration path information, forcing us to always tack on the 
original path name, regardless of which restore option the user selects.

On the backup (includes a subdir called dir_A and a file inside called 
file.ext):
FILESYSTEM=/top_level

Restore file.ext in original location:
FILESYSTEM=/top_level
ORIGINAL_PATH=dir_A/file.ext
DESTINATION_DIR=/top_level

Restore file.ext to different location "/top_level":
FILESYSTEM=/top_level
ORIGINAL_PATH=dir_A/file.ext
DESTINATION_DIR=/top_level

So in the first restore scenario, we would expect a file called 
/top_level/dir_A/file.ext.  In the second, the user would want 
/top_level/file.ext.  However, given the information Veritas sends us through 
NDMP (v3), we can't differentiate between the two cases.  Better to always 
restore the original absolute path name.

I just wanted to verify that this is a Veritas quirk and that we weren't 
missing something stupid.

Thanks,

-- Joe

>In my experience it has been the later, but then maybe I have been
>missing something.
>
>David Spearman
>County of Henrico, Va.





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[Veritas-bu] unable to get a storage unit for client

[i node]

I have a case open with NetBackup support that that they've not been able to
help me with.  Thought I'd give you good people a shot at it:
1.) We are getting these messages repeating in bpsched log: "unable to get a
storage unit for client".  Most of the time the messages eventually stop and
the backup job runs.

2.) We sometimes need to recycle NetBackup when jobs begin to queue and
never become active.

3.) We have jobs that hang. They remain active, but last activity shown by
bperror is many hours old, and number of files or kilobytes backed up does
not progress.

Not sure if 2 & 3 are related to 1 or not.  Any ideas?
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP restoration paths

[Darren Dunham]

> I have a question concerning the restoration path behavior of NDMP restores 
> with NetBackup.  If I have a file like so:
> 
> /dir_A/dir_B/file.ext
> 
> I select it for restore, and then say "Restore everything to a different 
> location (maintaining structure)..."  to:
> 
> /dir_C
> 
> Is "file.ext" restored to "/dir_C/file.ext", or will it be restore to
> "/dir_C/dir_A/dir_B/file.ext"?

I think when I've done it, it has restored the entire path down from the
backups point.  So the name of the volume isn't there, but the path
under the volume is.

I'm sure in a test I did with one file, it restored four or five
directories to contain that file.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP restoration paths

[Spearman, David]

In my experience it has been the later, but then maybe I have been
missing something.

David Spearman
County of Henrico, Va.

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Hi all,

I have a question concerning the restoration path behavior of NDMP
restores with NetBackup.  If I have a file like so:

/dir_A/dir_B/file.ext

I select it for restore, and then say "Restore everything to a different
location (maintaining structure)..."  to:

/dir_C

Is "file.ext" restored to "/dir_C/file.ext", or will it be restore to
"/dir_C/dir_A/dir_B/file.ext"?





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[Veritas-bu] NDMP restoration paths

[netbackup-forum]

Hi all,

I have a question concerning the restoration path behavior of NDMP restores 
with NetBackup.  If I have a file like so:

/dir_A/dir_B/file.ext

I select it for restore, and then say "Restore everything to a different 
location (maintaining structure)..."  to:

/dir_C

Is "file.ext" restored to "/dir_C/file.ext", or will it be restore to 
"/dir_C/dir_A/dir_B/file.ext"?





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Re: [Veritas-bu] netbackup client types

[Martin Ruslan]

@ Jonathan: it's ok.. :) I'm glad that u're trying to help me anyway.. ;)

@ Doug & Ken: Thank you guys...
One think that I know now is, the advanced client has richer (maybe all)
features for client systems, and the workstation was
the most basics feature among that 3 client types.

--
Best Regards,
mTz
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[Veritas-bu] backing up global file systems

[i node]

I'm backing up global file systems that are mounted on 2-3 cluster nodes;
each node is a separate NetBackup client.  So how do I avoid backing up the
same data 2-3 times?

Actually, NetBackup only seems successful in backing up the data on the node
that owns the disk group; the other nodes get an error for each file:
"VX_GETEXT failed on ... Errno = 48: Operation not supported".  I'd like to
avoid these errors and not waste time on data I've already backed-up. Time
is the real issue -- these backups are rarely completing on time.

On Sun Cluster, global file systems are not in any resource group that could
have a virtual hostname that fails over from one node to another.  I suppose
I could set that up, and use the virtual hostname for the NB client
name, but it is a lot of work just for backups.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 [NC]

[Mike Heck]

Jonathan,

I hate to contradict you, however the most current support documentation
shows that the SUN StoreEdge Filers are not supported for SSO via direct
attached drives. 

The Sun StorEdge NAS Systems are only supported via Remote NDMP, 3-way
NDMP and in the case of the 4.20M0 OS direct attached NDMP backups.
Nowhere does it list SSO. I have double checked this with the Symantec
testing team as well as with Product Management.

Symantec is constantly working with Vendors to get products certified,
as they are certified the compatibility list is updated. The
compatibility lists are your best source of information, as these are
constantly updated. 

The 4.20 version of Sun StorEdge OS currently does not support SSO on
Direct attracted drives. If you were provided with information from
Symantec that it is supported in this way, please contact me off list
with the case number you opened to obtain this information. 

Thank You 
Mike Heck 
Customer Focus Team 
Symantec


Original message thread:

I've got confirmation from both SUN and Symantec that The Sun StorEdge
5320 running 4.20 M0 will allow SSO both via Remote NDMP (thru the Media
Server) and Direct Attached.  I'm still a bit sceptical, because it
hasn't worked yet, but I've got a fair amount of confidence that when
Sun & Symantec say something works, it will.  I'll have it up and
running next week and I'll confirm one way or another.

-Jonathan
 

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 [NC]

Why not ? 
STK loves NT ... I'm sure it is a Dell box with Enginio controllers ...
If you want to use shared ( SSO ) drives - confirm with STK/SUN if the
NDMP version it runs supports SCSI Reserve/Release  and of course as was
mentioned yearlier today, NetBackup have to be version 6.


Regards.

--
Misha Pavlov
Soci?t? G?n?rale
desk: (212) 278-6096
cell: (646) 346-9341

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Ok... Just a point of clarification here...

I was under the assumption that if I had 4 fiber drives in library
shared with 2 media servers via SSO that I could also share one of those
drives with an NDMP NAS, namely a Sun StorEdge 5320.  Is this not the
case?

Just to clarify, when it comes NDMP backup time I want the Sun StorEdge
to allocate one of the SSO drives and write its data to it while sending
metadata to one of the media servers.  Is that not gonna happen?

-Jonathan



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Subject: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0

Rongsheng,

NDPM and SSO works very similar to normal SSO with NetBackup. 

What I would do is configure the Windows and UNIX hosts to share the
drives first, then configure access to the NDMP Host (Celerra NAS), then
finally modify the drives to include the NDMP path to the drives. 

You can then set up an NDMP storage Unit, and start backing up.

However I feel the need to advise you that not all versions of all
filers are compatible with SSO, this is mainly due the way reserve and
release are handled in some versions of some manufacturers Filer OS.
Please check the support.veritas.com web site, compatibility list for
NDMP to verify that your Filers OS is compatible.

Thank you,
Mike Heck

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Re: [Veritas-bu] bpmedialist -rn does not give desired output

[Darren Dunham]

> I'm trying to get a medialist from Robot 0. So i run the bpmedialist
> -rn 0 = command. But i still see volumes that reside in Robot 2. So it
> seems the -r= n switch is not working. Anyone else got the same
> problem or got a workarou= nd?

What version of NBU are you using and what's the exact command you're
trying?

I don't see that -rn is a valid switch for bpmedialist except when
-count is used as well, which wouldn't be normally used.

The media database doesn't necessarily know if a particular volume is in
a robot or not.  When I'm doing things like this, I script it so that I
combine the media information from bpmedialist and the volume location
information from vmquery.  

If you just need the list of volumes in the robot, then that's not
bpmedialist.  That's vmquery -rn 'x'.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] netbackup client types

[Ken Schonberg]

On 5/1/07, Martin, Jonathan (Contractor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I always save these to a local directory because the website is such a

pain. I assume you are looking for the Advanced Client config notes?

Getting to the right manual on Symantec's website can take some effort and
sometimes more than a few mouseclicks.  However, they have technotes for
NetBackup that provide a rollup of all the documentation with links to them:
NetBackup 5.0: http://support.veritas.com/docs/287037

NetBackup 5.1: http://support.veritas.com/docs/287038

NetBackup 6.0: http://support.veritas.com/docs/287039

I've found that these provide a much easier way of navigating to the right
manual.

Ken Berg
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Re: [Veritas-bu] netbackup client types

[Preston, Douglas L]

We went with server protect license for all our clients and it works
with workstations also.  I am not sure workstation license will work
with servers.  I prefer to have the ability to add a new client as soon
as it is required regardless of workstation or server when the need
arises instead of waiting for the bureaucrats to approve a PO for new
licenses.  We purchase licenses 25 at a time and reorder if we get down
to 10 unused.


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Ruslan
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] netbackup client types

No Martin...
I just want to know, what the differences between NBU Advanced client,
with NBU client server protect, and client workstation protect.
I must choose one of this client license type...
Thx.

-mTz- 




On 5/1/07, Martin, Jonathan (Contractor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I always save these to a local directory because the website is
such a pain.  I assume you are looking for the Advanced Client config
notes?
 

http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise
_Server/279211.pdf
 
 
-Jonathan



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Subject: [Veritas-bu] netbackup client types



Dear guys,
I cannot find the documentation, about the different from
netbackup advanced client, with netbackup client protect server and
netbackup client protect workstation.
 
Can anybody help me to describe what the description, or
reffering the documentation.
Thanks in advance..

-- 
Best Regards, 
mTz




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Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 [NC]

[Martin, Jonathan \(Contractor\)]

I've got confirmation from both SUN and Symantec that The Sun StorEdge 5320 
running 4.20 M0 will allow SSO both via Remote NDMP (thru the Media Server) and 
Direct Attached.  I'm still a bit sceptical, because it hasn't worked yet, but 
I've got a fair amount of confidence that when Sun & Symantec say something 
works, it will.  I'll have it up and running next week and I'll confirm one way 
or another.

-Jonathan
 

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Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:59 PM
To: Martin, Jonathan (Contractor)
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 [NC]

Why not ? 
STK loves NT ... I'm sure it is a Dell box with Enginio controllers ...
If you want to use shared ( SSO ) drives - confirm with STK/SUN if the NDMP 
version it runs supports SCSI Reserve/Release  and of course as was mentioned 
yearlier today, NetBackup have to be version 6.


Regards.

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Ok... Just a point of clarification here...

I was under the assumption that if I had 4 fiber drives in library
shared with 2 media servers via SSO that I could also share one of those
drives with an NDMP NAS, namely a Sun StorEdge 5320.  Is this not the
case?

Just to clarify, when it comes NDMP backup time I want the Sun StorEdge
to allocate one of the SSO drives and write its data to it while sending
metadata to one of the media servers.  Is that not gonna happen?

-Jonathan



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Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:56 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0

Rongsheng,

NDPM and SSO works very similar to normal SSO with NetBackup. 

What I would do is configure the Windows and UNIX hosts to share the
drives first, then configure access to the NDMP Host (Celerra NAS), then
finally modify the drives to include the NDMP path to the drives. 

You can then set up an NDMP storage Unit, and start backing up.

However I feel the need to advise you that not all versions of all
filers are compatible with SSO, this is mainly due the way reserve and
release are handled in some versions of some manufacturers Filer OS.
Please check the support.veritas.com web site, compatibility list for
NDMP to verify that your Filers OS is compatible.

Thank you,
Mike Heck

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Re: [Veritas-bu] netbackup client types

[Martin, Jonathan \(Contractor\)]

Whoops...
 
So your question is what's the difference between running Advanced
Client w/ Server Protect versus Advanced Client w/ Workstation Protect?
I didn't know you could used Advanced Client w/ workstations.  Sounds
interesting.  No clue.
 
Sorry for the confusion.
 
-Jonathan
 



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Ruslan
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 8:53 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] netbackup client types


No Martin...
I just want to know, what the differences between NBU Advanced client,
with NBU client server protect, and client workstation protect.
I must choose one of this client license type...
Thx.

-mTz- 




On 5/1/07, Martin, Jonathan (Contractor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

I always save these to a local directory because the website is
such a pain.  I assume you are looking for the Advanced Client config
notes?
 

http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise
_Server/279211.pdf
 
-Jonathan



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin
Ruslan
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 5:59 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] netbackup client types



Dear guys,
I cannot find the documentation, about the different from
netbackup advanced client, with netbackup client protect server and
netbackup client protect workstation.
 
Can anybody help me to describe what the description, or
reffering the documentation.
Thanks in advance..

-- 
Best Regards, 
mTz




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[Veritas-bu] EsxRanger netbackup integration

[ida3248b]

Hello All

We are looking at EsxRanger to backup our VM's has anybody done integration 
between EsxRanger and Netbackup ?

It dosn't seem to be very hard, but I don't want to reinvent the wheel 

Regards
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Re: [Veritas-bu] netbackup client types

[Martin Ruslan]

No Martin...
I just want to know, what the differences between NBU Advanced client, with
NBU client server protect, and client workstation protect.
I must choose one of this client license type...
Thx.

-mTz-



On 5/1/07, Martin, Jonathan (Contractor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 I always save these to a local directory because the website is such a
pain.  I assume you are looking for the Advanced Client config notes?


http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise_Server/279211.pdf

-Jonathan

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 Dear guys,
I cannot find the documentation, about the different from netbackup
advanced client, with netbackup client protect server and netbackup client
protect workstation.

Can anybody help me to describe what the description, or reffering the
documentation.
Thanks in advance..

--
Best Regards,
mTz





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Re: [Veritas-bu] netbackup client types

[Martin, Jonathan \(Contractor\)]

I always save these to a local directory because the website is such a
pain.  I assume you are looking for the Advanced Client config notes?
 
http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise
_Server/279211.pdf
 
-Jonathan



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Ruslan
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To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] netbackup client types


Dear guys,
I cannot find the documentation, about the different from netbackup
advanced client, with netbackup client protect server and netbackup
client protect workstation.
 
Can anybody help me to describe what the description, or reffering the
documentation.
Thanks in advance..

-- 
Best Regards, 
mTz
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Catalog Checker

[Kristofer]

This is the one that Symantec will have you run to generate a directory of 
output files, which they will have you ZIP up and send to them and they will 
run the counterpart of this one (which is not included in this tarball).

- Original Message -
From: "John Nardello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Alex Wilkinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2007 7:23:33 AM (GMT-0600) America/Chicago
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Catalog Checker

This is the only one that came up when searching for NBCC. This version
says it only runs on NB 5.x servers. 

- John Nardello

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Catalog Checker

0n Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 06:50:13PM -0400, Justin Piszcz wrote: 

>Wow, going to grab this very quickly and archive it away for safe
keeping.
>
>On 4/30/07, Nardello, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> http://support.veritas.com/docs/287433

Is there one for 6.x ?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Catalog Checker

[Nardello, John]

This is the only one that came up when searching for NBCC. This version
says it only runs on NB 5.x servers. 

- John Nardello

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Catalog Checker

0n Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 06:50:13PM -0400, Justin Piszcz wrote: 

>Wow, going to grab this very quickly and archive it away for safe
keeping.
>
>On 4/30/07, Nardello, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> http://support.veritas.com/docs/287433

Is there one for 6.x ?

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[Veritas-bu] netbackup client types

[Martin Ruslan]

Dear guys,
I cannot find the documentation, about the different from netbackup advanced
client, with netbackup client protect server and netbackup client protect
workstation.

Can anybody help me to describe what the description, or reffering the
documentation.
Thanks in advance..

--
Best Regards,
mTz
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[Veritas-bu] bpmedialist -rn does not give desired output

[Rolf C]

I'm trying to get a medialist from Robot 0. So i run the bpmedialist -rn 0 
command. But i still see volumes that reside in Robot 2. So it seems the -rn 
switch is not working. Anyone else got the same problem or got a workaround?
 
Thanks
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